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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 8:05pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Lurker4Long:hmm seems these guys wants to steal the beauty show from Ara MRAP 2 Impressive... |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:25pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Lurker4Long:
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 9:08am On Nov 03, 2020 |
[quote author=kabe1 post=95613938][/quote] Attaching a press report doesn't really answer the question. These are the African countries who've received Russian military equipment since CAATSA was signed into law: Algeria Angola Central African Republic Cote d'Ivoire Egypt Ethiopia Equatorial Guinea Mali Mozambique Nigeria Sudan. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:13am On Nov 03, 2020 |
Lurker4Long: The press report directly quotes the Nigerian ambassador to Russia. Until a statement from Nigeria or Russia states otherwise, that's the only verifiable evidence we have at this time as regards the none delivery of the remaining MI-35M helicopters to Nigeria. If you have any other source you can post it. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 9:28am On Nov 03, 2020 |
kabe1:Strange sanctions these...that Nigeria can receive some Russian equipment but not others |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:32am On Nov 03, 2020 |
Lurker4Long: If you have evidence, please post it. It makes no sense that when you are asked for proof to support your claims, you resort to sarcasm. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:37am On Nov 03, 2020 |
Lurker4Long: The Russian-Nigerian defense cooperation is complicated due to sanctions targeting Russia, the ambassador noted. Nigeria Has Received 6 Russian Mi-35M Helicopters, Expects 6 Remaining - Ambassador "Sanctions against Russia do not help this cause, as you can imagine. Russia is a reliable partner that always fulfills its obligations. We will definitely agree on the supply of the remaining Mi-35 helicopters, and then we will see what we can do as part of the law," Ugbah added. https://www.google.com/amp/s/sputniknews.com/amp/world/201910111077019504-nigeria-has-received-6-russian-mi-35m-helicopters-expects-6-remaining---ambassador/ |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 10:03am On Nov 03, 2020 |
kabe1: I see you're pretending that list of countries who received Russian equipment since the sanctions, doesn't exist. The evidence stares you in the face, but "the ambassador said..." 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:08am On Nov 03, 2020 |
Lurker4Long: Lol, what evidence are you talking about? Can you enlighten me, so we are on the same page. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 10:13am On Nov 03, 2020 |
kabe1: Let me try this in simple terms: Kabe: we haven't received 6 choppers because of sanctions against Russia Me: But Nigeria and other countries have received Russian equipment since sanctions, so there must be another reason Kabe: But the ambassador said it's sanctions Me: Do the sanctions not apply to the other materiel received by Nigeria and others? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 10:50am On Nov 03, 2020 |
Lurker4Long: It is all about diplomacy, some countries get waivers while others don't. US might look the other way for some reasons if some countries do it while others might be dealt with. The fact is that CAATSA exists to deter countries from buying weapons from Russia and some other countries and any country that trades weapons with Russia does it at the risk of being punished. Whether the country will eventually be punished or not is another discussion. But money is definitely not the problem. We can only wait to see what eventually happens. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:13am On Nov 03, 2020 |
Lurker4Long: Man, this post you made shows you understand nothing about the politics of buying arms. Indonesia backed out of buying SU-35s from Russia for what reason exactly? You know what, It's futile continuing this discussion with you. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tobiloba2407: 11:21am On Nov 03, 2020 |
Lurker4Long: A couple of countries called the bluff with the USA weapons sanctions on Russia, one of such countries is India, they got weapons from Russia and are also due to get the most advanced version of f16( f21), it's just politics, when you are big, you are big and when there is a couple of billion dollars at stake, the USA would look the other way, because they don't want that money going to Russia. I think, the Nigerian government is waiting for the USA government to fulfill it's pending orders, to avoid stories that touch, them get the mi35m delivered. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 12:12pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
Tobiloba2407: Unlikely, considering how long it will take before the last Tucano is delivered. Also, the 3 RD-93 engines for the JF-17 were delivered early 2018, after CAATSA and with no waiver being necessary. What some are over-looking is that outside of Europe, CAATSA specifically says Russian exports will be blocked if they threaten US or allies national security. That's why the list of countries have been able to buy, without applying for waivers. Look, I don't know the reason for the delay, but facts available right now make a nonsense of the sanctions excuse. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 1:32pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
President Muhammadu Buhari gave the nod for the rescue operation by American Special Forces who stormed a location in Nigeria to free Philip Walton, the American hostage who was kidnapped in the Niger Republic in a cross border attack by motorcycle-riding bandits. Daily Trust got additional exclusive details of what transpired from an impeccable intelligence source. Reports at the weekend showed that the American, who was living in the village of Massalata near Birnin Konni in the Niger Republic, was snatched from there by one of the many kidnap gangs based within Nigeria. United States security officials sought for Nigeria as soon as they got a report of the kidnap of their citizen in the border region between Nigeria and the Niger Republic where incidents of cross border kidnaps have been previously reported. The Americans got back to Nigerian security officials as soon as contact was made by the kidnappers who called the kidnapped person's family with a Nigerian number. The kidnappers were said to have demanded a huge ransom. Daily Trust learnt that Nigerian intelligence officials quickly traced the number to a specific place in a village in Illela Local Government of Sokoto State. With the American elections just days away and the polls showing him behind the Democratic Challenger, Joe Biden, President Trump is under pressure to show a positive side of American power. It is no surprise that American security officials put in requests to Nigerian officials and followed up with phone calls by Mike Pompeo, the American Secretary of State. Nigerian officials in turn reviewed the situation and advised President Buhari to approve the request of the Americans to cross the border from Niger and mount a rescue operation. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 1:38pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
Lurker4Long: Whose National Security is Indonesia threatening with the proposed purchase of SU-35s from Russia? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 1:42pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
kabe1:He doesn't have a choice. Except we wanna say bye bye to the Super Tucano. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 2:33pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
kabe1: A certain US ally called Australia, with whom Indonesia has been at odds for a long time now. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 2:55pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
Lurker4Long: Indonesia is a US ally in the Indo-pacific region. You have not told us why the SU-35 fighter deal was blocked. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 3:33pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
kabe1: Come now this is getting tedious. Australia v Indonesia, whom will US prioritise? And I see you've still not bothered to explain this: These are the African countries who've received Russian military equipment since CAATSA was signed into law: |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:37pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
Lurker4Long: Let's agree to disagree. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by UltimateDreamer: 5:27pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
Technically, Technical, Technically
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Hennynitan(m): 6:44pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
UltimateDreamer:Lol... This is too much 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 6:45pm On Nov 03, 2020 |
kabe1: Facts are immutable. FACT 1: CAATSA did NOT prevent Algeria, Angola, Central African Republic, Cote d'Ivoire, Egypt, Ethiopia, Equatorial Guinea, Mali, Mozambique, Nigeria and Sudan receiving military equipment from Russia after the law was passed in the US. FACT 2: None of these countries applied for waivers. FACT 3: With the exception of Egypt's SU-35 purchase (because it threatened the national security of the US ally, Israel), the US did not utter a word about these transactions. Now, with which of the above facts do you disagree? 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Enigma001: 6:18am On Nov 04, 2020 |
Hi boss, You seemed to be knowledgeable about the nn dssc and I'd like to ask you a few questions if you don't mind. Xbee007: |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 8:18am On Nov 04, 2020 |
Off topic: US approve sale of F22 raptors to Israel. https://www.google.com/url?q=https://googleweblight.com/sp%3Fu%3Dhttps://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-approves-selling-f-22-raptor-to-israel-report/%26grqid%3DOHzyTRXG%26s%3D1%26hl%3Den-NG&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwizs83qq-jsAhWSQEEAHdGpDtgQFjAAegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw0tYDPoXLmtA3t87tGmwyfU I thought this jet wasn't meant to be exported... |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:36am On Nov 04, 2020 |
Toju200:Getting to expensive even for the yanks ........................shifting the problem to Israel, and getting paid for it ! 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by shadowprimezero: 12:19pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
Really dangerous news coming out of Ethiopia. Potential civil war brewing.... 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Salatavor: 12:33pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
Toju200:Stop this. It's madness. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by mekussa(m): 12:54pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
shadowprimezero: Ethiopia and Rwanda...... Countries ruled by STRONGMEN masquerading as democrats. I knew the Ethiopian prime minister was not going to comfortably share power with any party. It might not lead to civil war though. The military of Ethiopia has lots of experience with BRUTAL SUPPRESSION of dissenting voices. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by africatv: 1:23pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
Ethiopia deploys military to volatile northern region Ethiopia has deployed the military to the northernmost region of Tigray, in response to a deadly attack on an army base over the weekend that escalated a long-running dispute between ethnic groups in the East African country. http://en.hausatv.com/news/content/20630 |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 1:45pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
Toju200: For me the beauty stakes belong to the Paramount Mbombe 4. 8 Likes 1 Share
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