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Re: United States Electoral College Explained by agabusta: 10:31am On Nov 06, 2020 |
alexistaiwo: Kano with its large population will still have more electors than other states. |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by agabusta: 10:33am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Kccheechy: Homeland security how? Did you think the ballots used in this election are centrally produced and distributed? |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by kunlegboye(m): 10:34am On Nov 06, 2020 |
[quote author=Minjim post=95740886]We need this in Nigeria in order to neutralize to an extent the huge popula[color=#550000][/color]tion of illiterate and unenlightened voters of the North[/quote Definitely you don't understand anything about how this system works!...The more populated an area is the more important they are politically...Population is even more important to them |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Nobody: 10:34am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Sunisonflex39: Just grease the governor's palm, he does the manipulation for you like the democrats are doing now. 1 Like |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Nobody: 10:37am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Sure but the advantage will be minimal compared to what is obtainable in this present system. agabusta: |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by komodapson(m): 10:39am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Lamasta: You love to watch comedy&cartoons... 1 Like |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Preshob(m): 10:39am On Nov 06, 2020 |
dollarsplenty: It doesn't, judging from the fact that states with a higher population gets higher electoral voters and if a candidate polls the highest number of votes in a particular state then he/she wins the electoral votes for that state......so it more or less shows the choice of the people although it's more of a winner takes all stuff |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by agabusta: 10:40am On Nov 06, 2020 |
alexistaiwo: yes, that's accurate. |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Tareq1105: 10:40am On Nov 06, 2020 |
UyaiIncomparabl: Leave them. Talk is very cheap. I give Joe 3 yrs after which Americans will start to abuse him. The same way we put all our trust in Buhari in 2015 with high hope. So, I don't expect much difference bcoz experience have taught me not to put my trust in anyone born of a woman especially a politician. Let's keep our fingers crossed. |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Lamasta(m): 10:42am On Nov 06, 2020 |
komodapson:You watch horror movies a lot pls reduce it |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Preshob(m): 10:43am On Nov 06, 2020 |
agabusta: Yes but they'll also be limited by a certain number of electoral votes which a candidate can make up for from other states(depending on his win ratio) not the astronomical figures they keep churning out every election year |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Preshob(m): 10:47am On Nov 06, 2020 |
byrron: You're exaggerating right ![]() |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by 2nattie(m): 10:51am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Sunisonflex39: Haba! The people over there are not like people over here. They are not hungry 1 Like |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by sojfarm: 10:52am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Trump will not like the USA House of Rep to determine his fate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Like |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Nobody: 10:54am On Nov 06, 2020 |
onlyfacts: The Electoral College should have been abolished years ago. It is archaic and displaces the votes of millions of Americans. Often the argument for keeping this system is that people in big cities would always elect the President. This is simply false. Abolishing the electoral college would allow 3rd parties to actually have footing, and Presidential candidates would actually spend time in more than just the current swing states. People are tired of the duopoly of Republicans and Democrats, and while I don't see the two-party system disappearing overnight with the abolition of the EC, it would be an important first step. NY State isn't all Democrats, and Florida isn't all Republicans. Americans would have their voices be heard without the depression of voting that the Electoral College encourages. No solid blue or red states would increase voter turnout, and if anyone is worried that there wouldn't be a clear winner in this situation, a rank choice voting system could be implemented as well. Americans deserve to have their votes count instead of being discarded because of this ancient winner-take-all system. Lastly, The EC was created because the founders didn’t trust the populace to make an educated decision, so they put the power in the hands of the EC voters, who were supposed to be more elite. How does that compare to the system today? Are the people still incapable of making educated decisions today which was one of the factors that led to the creation of the EC? Why don't the EC go ahead and vote amongst themselves and choose who becomes the president without me standing in the line for solid 5 hours just to cast my vote when in actuality it doesn't get the president elected but determines the EC vote? Do you know how frustrating that is? Haven't the US constitution been amended in various times by expunging some of the contents that were drafted by the founding father's which are no longer relevant in today's world and realities? It confuses me that we still have the electoral college system in place when it is obviously now outdated and undemocratic. Every other election besides the presidential election is decided by popular vote. Shouldn’t the most important election in the US be decided by the whole of the population? People who argue that the electoral college should be kept in place because the founders wanted it that way should also remember that the founders also wrote slavery into the Constitution and the Constitution after so many years got amended and expunged slavery from it, then why can’t the constitution also be amended and get rid of the electoral college? The EC has outlived it's usefulness and antiquated 1 Like |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by kunlegboye(m): 10:55am On Nov 06, 2020 |
I was even told that they adopted that system of voting because of the blacks minority at that time.a way of rendering their voting useless in America. Was done so the minority votes would not directly count at the end. |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by samuelpeters(m): 11:00am On Nov 06, 2020 |
agabusta:Maybe it will favour Nigeria if we do not go with the "winner takes it all". That means even if kano has 27 electors, APC may win 17 while PDP wins 10. This is the only way it would make all states important. |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by lizdammy: 11:02am On Nov 06, 2020 |
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Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Mires: 11:03am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Zontage: Thanks so much to the writer. I have been exploring google to understand it all to no avail. Thanks also to you who brought it here. May your days be long. |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Nobody: 11:05am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Preshob: In an Ideal world, I will acknowledge that i was exaggerating but in Nigeria, there is nothing like exaggerating because every unthinkable type of absurdity is already happening in Nigeria. If you have a quota system that has been in place in Nigeria for decades then what's impossible in having 50 electoral college members for each northern states in Nigeria when they have done and established things that are more than 50 electoral college members equivalent for each northern states in Nigeria? It is also obvious that you know very little about America if not, you would have known or researched online and then get to know that the state of California have 55 electoral college votes. Nigeria is a theater of absurdity where everything is a possibility with little to zero resistance. |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Nobody: 11:10am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Cholls: Try to read and comprehend before rushing to make a comment that potrays you as someone dimwitted. What is the relevance of your comment to my assertions? |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by 2nattie(m): 11:12am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Tareq1105: I think the reason for these amounts of mail-in votes in the states is because of the COVID-19 pandemic. People were given the opportunity to cast their votes with lower risks of contracting the virus. Also note that in 2016, Trump benefitted immensely from this type of voting |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by jadeliyi(m): 11:13am On Nov 06, 2020 |
dollarsplenty:well this 538 people voted based on what their people voted for the context of setting up the electoral college is for equity not equality, at least their had been over hundreds of proposal to abolish the system which hasn't scale through Congress . you can consider the definition of democracy . NB not Abraham Lincoln definition. |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by jadeliyi(m): 11:16am On Nov 06, 2020 |
2nattie:which type of voting those this context means? mail in votes , was there any kind os such mail in vote in 2016 ? trump won through electoral college apparently . |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by jadeliyi(m): 11:20am On Nov 06, 2020 |
Preshob:sorry to chip this in the state of California has 55 electors please do research. it not exaggerating it the fact. |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by onlyfacts: 11:22am On Nov 06, 2020 |
byrron: So if I get you correctly, you want ONLY the popular votes to replace the electoral College? Have you thought about the implications of that? Well that means a president can be elected into office just by winning coast(s) he is more popular in and losing other coasts as long as the gathers enough vote in that coast(s) to win the popular vote. At the end of the day presidential elections will be won and lost in states or coast with the highest population. Smaller, less dense states, will just be USED just to augment their lead if there ever is a need for it. It will be like the Nigerian election where the north always determine the winners in presidential elections. Regions like south south and south east can be lost as long as you win one region in the south, which is south west. So applying that in the US, those less populous states in time will view their votes as nothing cause it doesn't determine the eventual winner. They would be negligible like votes in the south east and south south. The implications of that again is presidential candidates from less populous states or less influential states can never win the presidency in America based on popular votes. Only states with high population density or influential states can bring forth a candidate, which in itself is not democratic. So whether you go with EC or popular votes (like we have in Nigeria) , they will still have their issues, the point however shouldn't be on the system used in electioneering but rather if those entrusted to run that system are credible, that is a free and fair election without rigging. Rigging of votes is the problem of democratic elections. Either in popular votes or EC, if no rigging the people's choice will be the end result but mind you both systems will still carry their flaws. 1 Like |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by backbone503(m): 11:23am On Nov 06, 2020 |
UyaiIncomparabl: Trump has never been in public service nor actively engaged in politics and governance. Biden has. More reason he just secured the highest number of votes ever cast for a presidential candidate. 4 Likes |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by shadeyinka(m): 11:24am On Nov 06, 2020 |
byrron:...even if the uneducated are the majority? You seem not to mind if Alimajiris and Agberos determine who rule us for the next four years as long as they form the majority. No wonder they say "a nation deserves the kind of leaders it selects". We've been selecting bad leaders simply because by population, the majority are bad people. QED! 1 Like |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by Minjim: 11:26am On Nov 06, 2020 |
kunlegboye: Lagos is the most populous |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by dollarsplenty(m): 11:27am On Nov 06, 2020 |
mvem:Being in place for centuries does not justify its the best. |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by jadeliyi(m): 11:27am On Nov 06, 2020 |
agabusta:the would have of the matter if true but due balance would still be apportioned. since college would be divided by numbers of representatives in the national assembly. |
Re: United States Electoral College Explained by dollarsplenty(m): 11:30am On Nov 06, 2020 |
onlyfacts:Even here a president needs to win 2/3 of the states. it's still about fairness and equity. |
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