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Re: Does God Really Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:45pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
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Re: Does God Really Exist? by LordReed(m): 1:52pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: You are just clowning now. I said whether spirit is tangible or not is irrelevant and here you are string together some funny gibberish. Just show how "your cup is full" demonstrates spirit instead of behaving like a clown. 1 Like |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by mezico96(m): 2:07pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
LordReed: Oga if you think otherwise why not create your thread and state your course |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:08pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
LordReed: I have already finished demonstrating it, and I have further answered that it is intangible like all the other intangibilities you have and you use, everyday. So the case is done! |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by LordReed(m): 2:39pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
mezico96: Irrelevant. |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by LordReed(m): 2:46pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: No you did not, you merely made the statement. |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by AvsGot007(m): 9:41pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Nuttella:Tell me about it. |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Kobojunkiee: 9:55pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
DivineDynamics: ![]() |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by AvsGot007(m): 9:57pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:he wan burst your head shey� |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by AvsGot007(m): 10:11pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
LordReed:... |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by AvsGot007(m): 10:19pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Kobojunkiee:7 spirits of God Including the Spirit of the Lord, and the Spirits of wisdom, of understanding, of counsel, of might, of knowledge and of fear of the LORD |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Kobojunkiee: 10:25pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
AvsGot007:Really? So, which one of those 7 entered Jesus Christ at the point of Baptism? ![]() Were the other Spirits missing in action from Jesus Christ since there is no record of another Spirit entering His person while He was on earth? ![]() |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Image123(m): 2:01am On Nov 10, 2020 |
LordReed: The human being is a tripartite being unlike other animals and living things. It's not necessarily what makes us greater but it makes us in the image of God, triune. Every human being is made up of spirit, soul and body. Like three circles or like in geography, the earth has an inner core/circle in the deepest part, then the outer core before coming to the earth surface that we all see. In similar vein, the spirit of man is the innermost, followed by the soul. The body is the outside physically seen part. The body is more prevalent in the physical realm and i guess you are already at a disadvantage asking for purely physical objective proofs of another realm. Let's see what can be done though not promising much. So far so bad, what part is confusing in the explanation? |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Tamaratonye5(f): 4:56am On Nov 10, 2020 |
DivineDynamics:Ages 0-4 Ages 5-12 Ages 13-17 Ages 18-25 Ages 26-39 Ages 40-64 Ages 65-90 DivineDynamics:Fixed DivineDynamics:You tied the previous sentence together with this one using the word "neither". Trying to one up your shadow, hmm? NO demonstrable evidence [1] A god, [2] deity sex as in he [3] creates ... The universe exists, human beings exist. Good observations. DivineDynamics:One hundred percent true. And these many have asked for this standard of evidence. Others are happy believing in faith and then telling everyone what they know lol DivineDynamics:Come on now DivineDynamics lol. This is not true at all ![]() DivineDynamics:I can't think of many religions that "survive and get money from people" without this deity being of some sort, you know And not all credit said deity with creation afterall, so perhaps, many is appropriate ![]() DivineDynamics:And some are very optimistic and quite pleased with how far humankind has are available caring for other humans and advancing medicine, foods, technology, communication (incl languages), acceptance of diversity, lower crime rates … oh wow I could last and on… These super dis-illusioned people should get entangled in maybe one small thing to boost the globe or their local area. Even giving to a bank, volunteering at an old folks home OR animal shelter… oh wow - there's lots an individual can do, you know DivineDynamics:Actually - it’s never been demonstrably evidenced that a supreme God exists not to mention within the midst of "travails", so, quite frankly, none should "accept" this position However - you may say "some with faith believe a supreme god exists amongst travails" (something like that) DivineDynamics:Sorry DivineDynamics, but the credit for your existence should (realistically) be visiting your dear mom and pop - the sperm and egg donor… think basic sexual reproductive education. DivineDynamics:See that's a faith statement. No empirical evidence for this "spirit" you speak about … |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Tamaratonye5(f): 5:27am On Nov 10, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Pure nonsense, another bare assertion from you in the pretence it's evidence. Dtruthspeaker:Ah, I see. So trains are spirits then? That has to be dumbest piece of rhetoric you have posted on this website yet. Dtruthspeaker:Shall Dtruthspeaker ever grasp rudimentary grammar and sentence construction? WHAT OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE CAN YOU DEMONSTRATE FOR ANY DEITY? Dtruthspeaker:You, or any other believer and/or theist, would have to offer some shred of evidence first, and that hasn't happened. As we can see from your vapid rhetoric here again, you don't even know what evidence is, clearly, proof is mathematics. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dtruthspeaker:They call this argumentum ad ignorantiam. It does not work that way. You cannot disprove an untestable claim, and the god claim falls into the untestable category. Allow me to illustrate your folly now: I claim that in the heart of the sun is a sphere packed with beer and hot babes. Can you disprove this? I'm guessing no My question to you: Simply because you cannot disprove my claim, does that make my claim valid? Dtruthspeaker:Your unevidenced archaic superstition needs no counter argument, and your bare assertions are not evidence. I gave up reading the rest of your vapid verbiage. Is your shift key broken? What's with the random capital letters? As for truth, that's established with objective evidence, and despite your empty hyperbole, you have yet to offer any. 1 Like |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Tamaratonye5(f): 6:13am On Nov 10, 2020 |
Image123:We have examined this planet earth and through many disciplines are able to identify and study the various layers on this planet. If someone demands proof that there's an inner core, it will be proven by the suitable scientists, with data and facts. Those results were determined by observation, the layers were revealed as science progressed. You cannot prove in any way this triple layer human proposition. You're not working with facts and data.
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Re: Does God Really Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:02am On Nov 10, 2020 |
LordReed: Another Proof is when we say "Action speaks louder than words" ![]() |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:06am On Nov 10, 2020 |
AvsGot007: No Bros, I no gree make e talk for me, I gas talk my own talk. ![]() |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by LordReed(m): 7:21am On Nov 10, 2020 |
Image123: How can we independently verify any of this? |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by LordReed(m): 7:26am On Nov 10, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Repeating trite statements do nothing to support your position. |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:31am On Nov 10, 2020 |
Tamaratonye5: Anty Tamara, between you and I, you know Nothing About Evidence, the Nature of Evidence and the Law of Evidence, How, Evidence is Obtained, The Types of Evidence that Exist etc So, You Do Not know what Evidence Is and How it Works and therefore you are not in a position to contend with me on Evidence. (Now folks, do you know the Tamaratonye style of argument? she shall divert from the main issue and move into the streams of the main issue like a bull shark leaves the ocean to go into rivers). Aunty Tamara that can argue forever, Come and present your knowledge of Evidence if you have more knowledge about Evidence than I, let us see, if not, hold you breast ![]() The only thing of interest to me here is your knowledge of Evidence, bring it that we may Examine (I know say you go dodge am mmh) |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:34am On Nov 10, 2020 |
LordReed: Morning, Bros! Ah,this topic is making me find spirit in everything so I am going to be bringing them here for people to see. ![]() |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by LordReed(m): 7:41am On Nov 10, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Morning. So did you find spirit in Mycoplasma genitalium? |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:47am On Nov 10, 2020 |
LordReed: ![]() I had my course, and I coursed my course and I have long since arrived at my destination. |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Tamaratonye5(f): 9:04am On Nov 10, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Another tedious list of subjective unevidenced assertions, littered with random capital letters, pretty ironic as well, under the circumstances Dtruthspeaker:Is your name, by any chance, Donald Trump lol? You have offered no evidence, none, nada, zilch, so there's nothing to contend with. Though if you truly believe the nonsense you've posted on this thread is anything but pitiful naked assertions and vapid ad hominem, then I feel embarrassed for you. Dtruthspeaker:You've truly outdone yourself here lmao. Just when I thought you couldn't get any worse. Do tell us Dtruthspeaker, how is asking you to provide evidence for your endless subjective assertions, distracting from them? Again, this is a pretty ironic claim, given that's your third paragraph that has nothing to do with the topic, and just lists more unevidenced assertions and puerile ad hominem. I also didn't make any argument, I only asked you to evidence your claims. So your hysterical ad hominem speaks for itself lol. Dtruthspeaker:Have I made any claims here? (Looking from left to right) I don't think so. The claims have all been yours, and that imbecillic red herring of a post is fooling no reasonable individual here. If it wasn't before, it's much clearer now that you have NO EVIDENCE to present for your beliefs in archaic superstitions. Seriously man, seek help. Quite frankly, and I don't mean this to be an ad hominem, your posts often make you come accross as dim-witted, or like an illiterate. I don't claim to be an expert in epistemology but good grief, you have never attempted to offer proper evidence for your beliefs in these kind of discussions. The random capital letters are hilarious and embarrassing in equal measure. Can you offer any compelling evidence for your deity at all? I can't dumb it down any more than that unfortunately. 2 Likes |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by LordReed(m): 9:15am On Nov 10, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Bwahahahaha! I thought you said you were finding spirit in everything. Were you lying? LMFAO! |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:37am On Nov 10, 2020 |
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Re: Does God Really Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:03am On Nov 10, 2020 |
Tamaratonye5: All the shit you say is hinged on what you know Evidence is Vs. what I know, what Evidence to be. So present your knowledge of Evidence here,.what Evidence is? it's Type and Nature, The Laws of Evidence, What things amount to Evidence and what things do Not! When this is settled, then you can rightfully dispose one way or the other, the evidence I have given in this case. For You Must Know What Evidence is, For You To Know What Is Not Evidence! Oya, show your knowledge of Evidence, if you can and this is my second demand to you, else it clearly proves You Know Nothing On Evidence, The Types of Evidence, The Nature of Evidence, The Laws guiding and guarding the use of Evidence. And therefore all you say is sewage. And of course this is the first time That You Realised That You Did Not Know What Evidence Truly Meant! |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Tamaratonye5(f): 2:05pm On Nov 10, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Another unevidenced claim, with more random capital letters, smh. You're embarrassing yourself lol. Evidence noun 1. the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. Fact noun 1. a thing that is known or proved to be true. You have offered none of the above to support your assertion about spirits. Just asserted that a known phenomenon, death, and medical terminology indicates your assertion to be valid. It’s not evidence for your claim, and as is usually the case you refuse to elucidate rationally your assertion, and resort to irrelevant non sequiturs and ad hominems. Dtruthspeaker:It’s perfectly adequately defined in any dictionary dear, and since you have not presented anything beyond bare assertion, there's nothing to look at. So again nobody is falling for this asinine evasion. Does one even remember what your claim was all through your irrelevant thrashing about? Dtruthspeaker:It’s settled by an easy definition, and you've presented no evidence, just bare claims, so sadly your bluster isn’t going to fool anyone, junior. The objective proof is^ ^ ^ ^ ^ | | | | | Ring any bells? If you think that there's any evidence in there then please point to it? What you’ve offered there's a subjective opinion. If it were an objective fact there’d be a world scientific consensus to validate it. Since what you’re describing could be a phenomenon, as are medical events that cause the brain to begin dying from oxygen deprivation. None of that's objective evidence for anything supernatural, why would it be? It’s infantile rhetoric, and also the fact you seem to genuinely think any of that's evidence for the claim says it all really. I’m embarrassed for you lol. Poor guy. Dtruthspeaker:What a pithy little tautological piece of nonsense. Again evidence is defined in any dictionary, I suggest you look it up. Then present some… Dtruthspeaker:(Yawning) Another unevidenced claim. Unbelievable ![]() I am happy for others here to make their minds up if my posts suggest your childish gibberish has any validity, in the meantime, research evidence within the dictionary and explain how your quoted claim about spirits, is evidenced within the infantile and irrelevant rhetoric you attached. Death may be a natural phenomena, nothing we understand about it evidences spirits. It’s also now clear you don’t know what objective means. Well, at least Anty Tamara knows English (the written word). The actual fact that I'm articulate could be a step towards my credibility… As for you, capitals here and there - a mishmash of non-sense… rotflmao - I'm pretty confident, that is, I'm 500 percent confident that I incorporate a better grip of what empirical and demonstrable evidence is - the varied levels required for convincing (determined by the claim itself), etc. Hell, I’m pretty sure my dog incorporates a better grip of what constitutes evidence than your posts suggest you have. …and that poor fucking dog has been dead for 15 years. 1 Like |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:36pm On Nov 10, 2020 |
Tamaratonye5: And this is where you are Completely Out of your depths and out of your league, m'lady! All you know about Evidence is the Definition of Evidence? ![]() And your knowledge of Evidence is Limited Only to the Definition of Evidence for Toddlers and then you present it as your Overwhelming Knowledge and Understanding of Evidence? ![]() And based on the definition of Evidence for babies you fancied yourself a judge of Evidence? The Scope, the Nature, the Types and the Law Restricting the Use of them, you know Not? ![]() Yet, you thought to consider yourself a Judge of Evidence? ![]() Shall you submit yourself to a carpenter to perform an appendicitis operation on you? Respectfully lady, your Jurisdiction lies in the Confines of the Toddlers Classroom and Any where else you may have precedence, BUT you have No Place in Judging what Amounts To Evidence here! You know Nothing girl On Evidence and since the Only Thing you know about Evidence is to Supply the Definition for Toddlers, You Are Immediately Disqualified From Passing A Judgment Over The Admittance Of Evidence, for Being Evidence. You Are A Fake Judge! And Fake Judges Have No Jurisdiction Over Any Matter, Anywhere, Neither is their Judgement ever Valid and Acceptable So enough playing Judge, go plant your little pert butt over there, While The Real Judges of Evidence, Come In! Thank you! |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:02pm On Nov 10, 2020 |
Another Example of the Proof and Manifestation of spirit is when we say "See as e face don change" for anger and "see as e dey sweet am for body", for joy |
Re: Does God Really Exist? by Tamaratonye5(f): 7:04pm On Nov 10, 2020 |
The objective proof is^ ^ ^ ^ ^ | | | | | Can Dtruthspeaker offer no objective evidence for this claim?? Tsk, tsk, tsk You're just trying to reverse the burden of proof - a dishonest debating tactic you keep employing whenever you're out-thought and outgunned. Your obfuscation of the meaning of "evidence" is only a way for you to run away, as you always do, from your claims like a whipped pussy lol. No rational person here is fooled by your trolling evasion. Though they may find your random capital letters, and remedial grammar a bit baffling. 1 Like |
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