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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 9:08pm On Nov 15, 2020
chrisooblog:
if we win nko?


I am not cin dt winning yet bro... cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:08pm On Nov 15, 2020
Edopesin:


When we qualify for both the Afcon and the World cup i hope you still have this energy then cause you cannot call for the sack of a winning coach cool

Qualifying for the AFCON is a done deal. The format this time is easy..
if the same format was used for 2012,2015 and 2017, we would have qualified.
But can u boldly say we will qualify for the world cup with this stagnant performance of ours? Given the current format...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 9:09pm On Nov 15, 2020
There's no difference between Rohr, Ole and Southgate, they all depend on individual brilliance and it has a way of saving their asses

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 9:16pm On Nov 15, 2020
Danielnino00:


Qualifying for the AFCON is a done deal. The format this time is easy..
if the same format was used for 2012,2015 and 2017, we would have qualified.
But can u boldly say we will qualify for the world cup with this stagnant performance of ours? Given the current format...

If there's one thing i've learnt with Rohr its that he always manages to do better than you would expect when it comes down to qualifying, After we lost to South Africa 2 or 3 years ago in the qualifiers we were also saying things like this only for him to pull it off.

Trust me a 3 or more goal margin win against Sierra leone and people go fall back in line
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nairalandankrah: 9:17pm On Nov 15, 2020
The sierra lonians should please do us a favor by winning this return leg.. even if its by a lone goal.. We desparately need rohr sacked..

Osimhens injury all for nothing!!! Mtcheww
That was how he threw away our one goal lead against the argies...trust me it is still the same old rohr..he will still cost us

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 9:21pm On Nov 15, 2020
Danielnino00:



Typical Nigerian...Reply a question with a question..
shey na u dey ask for Rohr style? Give me the style of five national teams to justify the daft question.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 9:26pm On Nov 15, 2020
Edopesin:
There's no difference between Rohr, Ole and Southgate, they all depend on individual brilliance and it has a way of saving their asses
lol with rohr v. Moses, ighalo, iwobi, musa and now osimhen. ole penandez, rashford usually come through Southgate na Kane, sterling and rashford. Individual brilliance and inshallah

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 9:28pm On Nov 15, 2020
nairalandankrah:
The sierra lonians should please do us a favor by winning this return leg.. even if its by a lone goal.. We desparately need rohr sacked..

Osimhens injury all for nothing!!! Mtcheww
That was how he threw away our one goal lead against the argies...trust me it is still the same old rohr..he will still cost us
sorry in which game were we leading Argentina that he blew?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 10:03pm On Nov 15, 2020
Just so we are clear on this. Etebor is not a DM neither did he have any sense modicum of DM duties. As much as I love Karo he packs alot of ATPs but he rarely undertands his primary duties as a DM and that is because that is not his wing. Rohr is so annoying! I prefer Tijani in that role than Etebo , Shehu , Awaziem and Ajayi assume Agu and Ndidi arent available. We have the talents in abundance to execute these game but we have a useless coach. I am so pissed.

It has become very apparent that our midfield is weak link. I have written many times why playing Iwobi as a 10 is a problem but they insult me. Iwobi like to play there because he thinks he can be an Okocha but he is not a cerebral player, not close. I really want to see Karo play there because he started off as a left midfielder and scored tonns of goals.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 10:49pm On Nov 15, 2020
IDENNAA:
Just so we are clear on this. Etebor is not a DM neither did he have any sense modicum of DM duties. As much as I love Karo he packs alot of ATPs but he rarely undertands his primary duties as a DM and that is because that is not his wing. Rohr is so annoying! I prefer Tijani in that role than Etebo , Shehu , Awaziem and Ajayi assume Agu and Ndidi arent available. We have the talents in abundance to execute these game but we have a useless coach. I am so pissed.

It has become very apparent that our midfield is weak link. I have written many times why playing Iwobi as a 10 is a problem but they insult me. Iwobi like to play there because he thinks he can be an Okocha but he is not a cerebral player, not close. I really want to see Karo play there because he started off as a left midfielder and scored tonns of goals.


Etebo is a central Midfielder and he scored a few goals from left Midfield(6 goals to be precise)

there is no "tonnes" there
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:50pm On Nov 15, 2020
JohnBullMySon:
shey na u dey ask for Rohr style? Give me the style of five national teams to justify the daft question.

Lemme go down to Africa.

Algeria - free flowing pass and counter attacks from the wings

Madagascar- Park the bus and counter attack

Cameroon- jam body and attack from the wing

Morocco- Short,crisp passing style with creativity from the midfield

Senegal- Physical, quick and direct attacking football..

please,what is Rohr's style?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by cromz(m): 10:52pm On Nov 15, 2020
MetalJigsaw:
Rohr is below average
Anderson esiti dey o,even Uche Agbo these players are last resorts Buh e still no carry them
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:53pm On Nov 15, 2020
Make white man talk am. maybe na then some of una go listen. lol

Has Gernot Rohr reached the end of the road with the Super Eagles?
Ed Dove
14:06 ET | Nov 15



The Franco-German coach has a point to prove after one of Nigeria’s worst results during his tenure
Four and a half years after Gernot Rohr was first appointed by Nigeria, the German coach finds himself at a crossroads during his time as Super Eagles head coach.

Friday’s 4-4 draw with Sierra Leone, a defeat in almost everything but name, represented one of the national side’s worst performances in living memory.

Ironically, the first half an hour of that match represented one of their finest spells of football since Rohr took the helm, as the Super Eagles put four past the Leone Stars without response, and appeared on course for a record-breaking victory.

However, the subsequent collapse threatens to become the defining moment of Rohr’s troubled time at the helm.

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Nigeria, their confidence ebbing away with each Sierra Leonean goal, wilted over the next hour of action, with their midfield losing control, their defence flagging under pressure, and the attacking unit increasingly toothless.

Rohr watched on impotently as his side unravelled, ultimately losing two points in the race for Cameroon but, more critically, enduring a hammer-blow to their morale and denting the nation’s fragile confidence in the Super Eagles.

While the players’ professionalism and attitude must be questioned, Rohr must also take a considerable portion of the blame.

Time and again his substitutions have proved ineffective and have too regularly appeared to cost Nigeria momentum and control in a match, rather than helping the Eagles consolidate their authority and continue to take the game to opposition.

It was as clear as day, as Friday’s match swung in the Leone Stars’ favour, that Nigeria’s midfield was labouring, yet Rohr watched on helplessly, making tweaks and cosmetic re-alignments, rather than fixing the gaping hole in the hear of the team.

Certainly, it can be hard to find too much logic in some of Rohr’s substitutions, and sometimes, his changes appear to be made just for the sake of it.

Why, for example, remove the influential Samuel Chukwueze, whose movement and running gave the Leone Stars something to be worried about behind their defence?

Why remove Leon Balogun for Semi Ajayi? Why introduce strikers Paul Onuachu and Kelechi Iheanacho when the midfield requires bolstering?

The substitutions themselves are problematic, as are the timings of the changes…Rohr dithers, watching on as Rome burns, when a proactive approach is required.

Then, the broader squad selection must also be questioned.

In the past, we’ve seen Nigeria setting themselves up to fail, rather than succeed, and it feels as though the same is happening again with Rohr.

Many eyebrows were raised when the German coach named four midfielders—one of whom was right-back Tyronne Ebuehi—in his squad for the double-header against the Leone Stars.

It was hard to see, without injured Wilfried Ndidi, who would offer the defensive rigour in the heart of the park, and there were always going to be a certain issue of the practicality of a Joe Aribo-Oghenkaro Etebo midfield pairing.

Unsurprisingly, both of these two problems—both very predictable—came home to roost for the Super Eagles, as the duo in the centre were targeted and ultimately overrun as the contest went on.

Why replace injured winger Moses Simon with Onuachu?

Why replace Frank Onyeka with Shehu Abdullahi?

Why invite two right-backs and then play centre-back Kevin Akpoguma in that position?

Was there no place for Ramon Azeez, Kelechi Nwakali, Mikel Agu, Uche Agbo, Anderson Esiti or Okechukwu Azubuike?

Perhaps they haven’t always impressed with the national side, but any of them should be a competent option—should Etebo tire or get injured, say—against a side ranked 120th in the world.

These are all questions, perhaps, that the NFF and Amaju Pinnick should have been asking Rohr and his team when federation officials called for a summit on Saturday morning to understand what went wrong in the 4-4 draw.

The federation also have some questions to answer, specifically about the decision to offer Rohr a new contract in May 2020—ahead of the World Cup, before the Eagles’ underwhelming performance and first-round exit at the grandest stage of all.

While Rohr’s handling of the 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign—after being drawn with 2012, 2017 and 2019 Africa Cup of Nations champions Zambia, Cameroon and Algeria—was a fine achievement for a progressive, adventurous side, the West African giants haven’t built on the promise of those years.

The coach’s desire to constantly cut the average age of the side, and oversee consistent influxes of new faces may have resulted in Nigeria being the youngest squad at the 2018 World Cup, but has it also denied the Eagles of some critical experience and calming older heads who can help the team get through difficult periods.

Introducing youth around a spine of Ndidi, John Obi Mikel and Odion Ighalo was one thing, but with the three of them absent, Rohr’s Super Eagles project may be entering it’s terminal phase.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:56pm On Nov 15, 2020
JayromWrites:



Etebo is a central Midfielder and he scored a few goals from left Midfield(6 goals to be precise)

there is no "tonnes" there

Etebo started his career as an attacker oga..He played on the wings, as a striker and supporting striker for Warri wolves and the dream ream... He was scoring goals in that role too.. The 6 goals u counted from transfermarket didn't include his time at Warri wolves or the u-23...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:57pm On Nov 15, 2020
That opinion from Ed Dove was written a couple hours ago. He said exactly what some of us here have been saying many months ago and after the Sierra Leone game. Those who have eyes, let them see.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 10:59pm On Nov 15, 2020
England is out of the Nation's League

BBC Sports

England’s loss today is their 10th defeat in 48 matches under Gareth Southgate, making him the first manager to lose 10 matches with the Three Lions since Sven-Goran Eriksson, who lost 10 of his 67 games in charge.




Southgate is just a privileged low budget gernot rohr

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by barackodam: 11:00pm On Nov 15, 2020
Joebie:
Make white man talk am. maybe na then some of una go listen. lol



Introducing youth around a spine of Ndidi, John Obi Mikel and Odion Ighalo was one thing, but with the three of them absent, Rohr’s Super Eagles project may be entering it’s terminal phase.


Why do we always seek the validation of white men? Why exactly?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:00pm On Nov 15, 2020
The big question is are Southgate's players so good that he is underutilizing them?

Edopesin:
England is out of the Nation's League

BBC Sports

England’s loss today is their 10th defeat in 48 matches under Gareth Southgate, making him the first manager to lose 10 matches with the Three Lions since Sven-Goran Eriksson, who lost 10 of his 67 games in charge.




Southgate is just a privileged low budget gernot rohr
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:01pm On Nov 15, 2020
You dey ask me? Ask those who will start to see some sense now in what we have been saying just because a white man said so.

barackodam:



Why do we always seek the validation of white men? Why exactly?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 11:03pm On Nov 15, 2020
Danielnino00:


Etebo started his career as an attacker oga..He played on the wings, as a striker and supporting striker for Warri wolves and the dream ream... He was scoring goals in that role too.. The 6 goals u counted from transfermarket didn't include his time at Warri wolves or the u-23...


Oga I no dey argue you.. Still remembered his hat-trick but which one be e was scoring goals like say na Bruno him be


How many goals him don score for him career?

How many has he scored for the super eagles!?


That's my point

He started as an attacker, Maybe
But he s3ttled for a central Midfield role.. All these goals yarn wey una dey yarn, Etebo no get reach 3 goals for the super eagles sef.. infact Transfermarket put it at 1 goal 1 assist in over 30 games
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:06pm On Nov 15, 2020
Senegal are officially the first country to seal AFCON qualification!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 11:08pm On Nov 15, 2020
Joebie:
The big question is are Southgate's players so good that he is underutilizing them?


Yes they are and it's not just that, England has one of the most indepth squad at the moment.. their bench is so impressive that they could field two completely different 11 and still stand a good chance of winning with the right coaching
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:08pm On Nov 15, 2020
JayromWrites:



Oga I no dey argue you.. Still remembered his hat-trick but which one be e was scoring goals like say na Bruno him be


How many goals him don score for him career?

How many has he scored for the super eagles!?


That's my point

He started as an attacker, Maybe
But he s3ttled for a central Midfield role.. All these goals yarn wey una dey yarn, Etebo no get reach 3 goals for the super eagles sef.. infact Transfermarket put it at 1 goal 1 assist in over 30 games

Idenna made reference to when he was scoring goals while playing from the wings not central midfield.. Which one is scoring like Bruno again??

I agree with Idenna...Etebo doesn't have the intelligence to play as a DM,CM or AM..He decision making with the ball are often poor...but on the wings,his pace and physicality would be a huge asset...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:09pm On Nov 15, 2020
Okay, at least Belgium no be beans

Edopesin:


Yes they are and it's not just that, England has one of the most indepth squad at the moment.. their bench is so impressive that they could field two completely different 11 and still stand a good chance of winning with the right coaching
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 11:13pm On Nov 15, 2020
Danielnino00:


Idenna made reference to when he was scoring goals while playing from the wings not central midfield.. Which one is scoring like Bruno again??

I agree with Idenna...Etebo doesn't have the intelligence to play as a DM,CM or AM..He decision making with the ball are often poor...but on the wings,his pace and physicality would be a huge asset...

His premise of argument was Left Midfield And not wing hence my 6 goals submission... He said Etebo was scoring tonnes of goals from left Midfield and that was why I replied


Nobody talked nothing of Wing here
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 11:14pm On Nov 15, 2020
Joebie:
Okay, at least Belgium no be beans


True but Denmark nko?
Southgate be am
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 11:15pm On Nov 15, 2020
IDENNAA:
Just so we are clear on this. Etebor is not a DM neither did he have any sense modicum of DM duties. As much as I love Karo he packs alot of ATPs but he rarely undertands his primary duties as a DM and that is because that is not his wing. Rohr is so annoying! I prefer Tijani in that role than Etebo , Shehu , Awaziem and Ajayi assume Agu and Ndidi arent available. We have the talents in abundance to execute these game but we have a useless coach. I am so pissed.

It has become very apparent that our midfield is weak link. I have written many times why playing Iwobi as a 10 is a problem but they insult me. Iwobi like to play there because he thinks he can be an Okocha but he is not a cerebral player, not close. I really want to see Karo play there because he started off as a left midfielder and scored tonns of goals.


cc: danielnino00
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by barackodam: 11:16pm On Nov 15, 2020
Joebie:
You dey ask me? Ask those who will start to see some sense now in what we have been saying just because a white man said so.



I'm asking us o, all of us. How it never makes sense until a white man says it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:19pm On Nov 15, 2020
If we are going to beat Sierra Leone we will still need be able to deal with crosses from the wings. If them born Rohr well make he put Akpoguma again for RB, because for he mind his Akpos was outstanding. it's not going to be easy in Freetown, but I believe we can scrape a win. But if we don't win, let me see who will come here and defend Rohr.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 11:20pm On Nov 15, 2020
Keane

Sancho

Pope

Winks

Maitland-Niles

Calvert-Lewin

Foden

Saka

Abraham

Henderson

Bellingham


England bench today, Almost all of these guys are top class players only one or two are arguably average
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:23pm On Nov 15, 2020
I really don't care what a whiteman says. Countless times I've made suggestions at my job that left whites surprised. I really wonder why they should be surprised. But you know why. God gave us the same brain. I have close relatives who also boss whites. I've seen it all and I know it is the mentality of some of us that limits us. This is why I always believe we can go to the world cup and compete well, but many here want us to settle for an African title.

barackodam:



I'm asking us o, all of us. How it never makes sense until a white man says it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:28pm On Nov 15, 2020
Any coach who does not believe he can take us to the WC Semi Finals and beyond has no business as our coach. We have seen African titles before. We want to break new barriers. We are Nigeria, and we can.

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