BlueAngel444:
it's not about having a player play 3-5seasons but one that can go 8-9seasons

With Muller and Neymar within 10seasons I would get at least 3UCLs, 7 league titles

with Kaka and Ronaldinho maybe 2UCLs and 4 league titles

Neymar that'll definitely be injured for 3 months+ each season?? Lol..

Neobulletzz:

KDB competing with Willian and Schurle ke?

more like Willian, Schurle was LW I recall and Oscar was moved from RAM to AM.

KDB was getting minutes can't recall why he left, I remember feeling shocked but didn't get why. Then we got Salah I think, even that one Mourinho no gree am stay before we went to Cuardrado and then Pedro

thorrvik55:


Neymar that'll definitely be injured for 3 months+ each season?? Lol..

then I will pick Muller and Kaka

Unlimited22:

He didn't play with Henry and Van Persie at all.


No o. It was only Adebayor he played with all through. The same Adebayor who also had a 20-goal season.

Ozil at Arsenal topped assist chart with striking phenomena and greats like Olivier Giroud, Joel Campbell and Danny Welbeck.

But go off mate, numbers obviously don't tell the whole story.

Let us all forget that Ozil played with Sanchez


Ozil just faded 2/3 seasons ago

Roland17:


When they want to make their case they ignore the relevance and challenges of the other player and spotlight the effectiveness of theirs.

Ozil was integral in Madrid and dominated the La Liga for more than 3 seasons..Fab was surplus and could barely make the team and no one remembers that poorly advised sojourn.

Fab played with Costa, Henry, Van Persie and Adebayo all in their prime!!

Who did Ozil play with at Arsenal? Make dem tell me.. yet he dominated the assist charts. Ozil at Arsenal was not even Ozil’s prime but he still dominates Fab’s best season!

not taking anything away from Ozil but he played with Sanchez and Giroud was a pretty striker for them.

BlueAngel444:
it's not about having a player play 3-5seasons but one that can go 8-9seasons

With Muller and Neymar within 10seasons I would get at least 3UCLs, 7 league titles

with Kaka and Ronaldinho maybe 2UCLs and 4 league titles

Whaoh, are these your yardstick for good players?
Even Giggs had 13 epl titles and 2 ucl, is he twice better than them?

BlueAngel444:
then I will pick Muller and Kaka

I'm sure if u are asked to choose between peak Hazard and peak Ronaldinho, you'll still pick Hazard over Ronaldinho..

Sentiments! Sentiments! Sentiments!

raumdeuter:


Silva, Fabregas Ozil and Mata in that order
But I have to put some context into it that Silva benefitted from playing in attacking sides, Under a Guardiola system that makes attacking players look better than what they really are

Silva in a Mourinho systems would have been destroyed the same way Mata was. because he would have been shunted to the wings and tasked with helping his full back. I have argued before that Mata was the Silva of his time before he ran into Mourinho and he never recovered from it

When Germany went defensive, they had to shift Ozil to the left-wing and he quickly became a liability, when you meet strong sides, Ozil as a 10 is easy to mark out, Ulli Hoeness said that Bayern always targetted Ozil whenever we play Arsenal and it never fails

Ozil probably is the most talented of them but and probably the laziest too

it crazy how people forget how good some players were because of time and change.

Eye test o, stats test o, Mata had an amazing career in Chelsea and some will be typing leave Mata out like their keypads are autotyping

MorataFC:

Whaoh, are these your yardstick for good players?
Even Giggs had 13 epl titles and 2 ucl, is he twice better than them?

for what, Giggs played like for 40years

And in a way I would pick Giggs because I would know what I am getting. Not one off season or seasons and one great one



See if Chelsea had gotten T.Silvia and Ibrahimovic then gotten Ancelotti, we would have won EPL regularly and won UCL more than once. and they would still be playing till now and some players we lost may not have left.

How true is this?

This one no sabi pronounce Azpilicueta

https://twitter.com/CesarAzpi/status/1328356893694304263?s=20

thorrvik55:


I'm sure if u are asked to choose between peak Hazard and peak Ronaldinho, you'll still pick Hazard over Ronaldinho..

Sentiments! Sentiments! Sentiments!

no sentiments. Ofcourse I would pick Hazard over Ronaldinho.

Segedinho:
How true is this?

lol, it takes time but she gets it done

popizaino:






I bought canal+ just so I could be watching him in French league.

I love fabregassssssssss

How much is the Canal +? Do they show EPL and champions league? And does it show in Lagos?

sleekdot:


You mean the world cup where Mata played a sum total of 20mins vs Honduras or the Euro cup where he played 3 mins as a time wasting sub in a 4-0 win

To win both World up and Euro, Spain played about 1250mins and Mata participated in 23 of those mins, he probably didnt even sweat

Make we no lie, Mata had as much influence in winning those trophies as those of us typing from Nairaland

let's act like Mata did not play in the qualifiers, who was he supposed to bench in Spain XI, see the people Mata shared bench with.

I am sure there were top Spanish players that didn't even make the squad

Overall career Silva is clearly the best, but Cesc 2005/2006 was prolly the best seasonal performance of the four. He dragged Arsenal to CL final, if not RIP to Henry, Arsenal would have won, this same team came second to only Jose's 2nd season Chelsea in the league with Cesc being the key Mid fielder.

BlueAngel444:
lol, it takes time but she gets it done

BlueAngel444:
let's act like Mata did not play in the qualifiers, who was he supposed to bench in Spain XI, see the people Mata shared bench with.

I am sure there were top Spanish players that didn't even make the squad

If Mata was good enough he will make the first team, If he couldnt make the first team, we shouldnt rate him above people who made the first team and actually won on the field

BlueRayDick:


How much is the Canal +? Do they show EPL and champions league? And does it show in Lagos?

I bought mine when they were doing promo and that was 25k CFA with a month subscription.

Dish and decoder 5k CFA
One month sub 20 CFA

It can show anywhere and they do show both EPL and UCL and aside that they also show Euro basketball, French ligue, Turkish league and Scottish leagues,NBA late games.

popizaino:


I bought mine when they were doing promo and that was 25k CFA with a month subscription.

Dish and decoder 5k CFA
One month sub 20 CFA

It can show anywhere and they do show both EPL and UCL and aside that they also show Euro basketball, French ligue, Turkish league and Scottish leagues,NBA late games.

Where dis u get it? Can I get a link or an address or something?

BlueAngel444:
for what, Giggs played like for 40years

And in a way I would pick Giggs because I would know what I am getting. Not one off season or seasons and one great one



See if Chelsea had gotten T.Silvia and Ibrahimovic then gotten Ancelotti, we would have won EPL regularly and won UCL more than once. and they would still be playing till now and some players we lost may not have left.

I totally agree with this one

sleekdot:


You mean the world cup where Mata played a sum total of 20mins vs Honduras or the Euro cup where he played 3 mins as a time wasting sub in a 4-0 win

To win both World up and Euro, Spain played about 1250mins and Mata participated in 23 of those mins, he probably didnt even sweat

Make we no lie, Mata had as much influence in winning those trophies as those of us typing from Nairaland

cc Unlimited22. Even if you have seen this before, please see it again

Big boss Dayo never fails to do his thing.

ToyinDipo:
Overall career Silva is clearly the best, but Cesc 2005/2006 was prolly the best seasonal performance of the four. He dragged Arsenal to CL final, if not RIP to Henry, Arsenal would have won, this same team came second to only Jose's 2nd season Chelsea in the league with Cesc being the key Mid fielder.

cesc fabregas wasn't the only key midfielder in that arsenal side of 2005/2006. There was also a certain hleb pulling the strings beside him

Almajirihunter:
What happened to the youths taking over in 2023 or not voting any of the ex politicians, it’s not yet a month already and it’s died down. On FP is about a certain Governor crossing ships and who’s going to take the presidency in 2023 between APC/PDP. It’s so disheartening but at this point the whole EndSARS thing looks like a monumental failure now. If only it was staged in 2023 close to the polls because Nigerians forget a lot.

There are groups on Facebook formed by some End SARS protesters with a view to getting youths engaged in politics.

We can join such groups and get involved, so we can support people with ideas in new parties in 2023 general elections.

BlueAngel444:


Let us all forget that Ozil played with Sanchez


Ozil just faded 2/3 seasons ago

Don't mind them, they intentionally ignored sanchez

kendrick9:
Silva was the better player amongst them four.
I will pick him...
After that it comes down to between Ozil and Fabregas..
At Peak level i think Ozil edges, the ozil at the 2010 world cup and at R.madrid was really out of this world...
Fabregas whilst also great but his main attribute was long passing and shots at his peak,
This got noticeable worse at his chelsea days where he was just a long passing specialist and nothing else.
At Barca a top club, he was exposed imo, he just lacked that extra quality which is why he is below the likes of Xavi, iniesta and Silva imo...
That stamina, agility really held him back and his game intelligence isn't upto the xavis of this world.
I don't think he ever could run a midfield like a xavi,inesta or Silva could...

You've said it all

Best in Europe in defensive aerial duels won
26/27; 96.3% win rate.

Aerial beast lord.

Mecka:
cesc fabregas wasn't the only key midfielder in that arsenal side of 2005/2006. There was also a certain hleb pulling the strings beside him

Apart from dribbling what did Hleb have.

raumdeuter:


Silva, Fabregas Ozil and Mata in that order
But I have to put some context into it that Silva benefitted from playing in attacking sides, Under a Guardiola system that makes attacking players look better than what they really are

Silva in a Mourinho systems would have been destroyed the same way Mata was. because he would have been shunted to the wings and tasked with helping his full back. I have argued before that Mata was the Silva of his time before he ran into Mourinho and he never recovered from it

When Germany went defensive, they had to shift Ozil to the left-wing and he quickly became a liability, when you meet strong sides, Ozil as a 10 is easy to mark out, Ulli Hoeness said that Bayern always targetted Ozil whenever we play Arsenal and it never fails

Ozil probably is the most talented of them but and probably the laziest too

Sir, Silva has already made a name for himself before ever meeting pep. Don't bring the pep - Mou talk into it.

I will put David silva in the ranks of xavi and iniesta for his exceptional footballing qualities like vision, workrate, creativity, passing accuracy, assist, precision, ball control, versality, dead ball skill name them

Greatihex:
Sir, Silva has already made a name for himself before ever meeting pep. Don't bring the pep - Mou talk into it.

OK

kendrick9:
Silva was the better player amongst them four.
I will pick him...
After that it comes down to between Ozil and Fabregas..
At Peak level i think Ozil edges, the ozil at the 2010 world cup and at R.madrid was really out of this world...
Fabregas whilst also great but his main attribute was long passing and shots at his peak,
This got noticeable worse at his chelsea days where he was just a long passing specialist and nothing else.
At Barca a top club, he was exposed imo, he just lacked that extra quality which is why he is below the likes of Xavi, iniesta and Silva imo...
That stamina, agility really held him back and his game intelligence isn't upto the xavis of this world.
I don't think he ever could run a midfield like a xavi,inesta or Silva could...

Would Silva have played in Barcelona team also?
Silva just like Fabregas was deployed as a false 9 whenever they had to play with Xavi and Iniesta