gensteejay:

What are my beliefs? What's the history of my beliefs?

State them clearly and quote where I said so.

And which specific history are you referring to? In my collection of books, I have over a dozen books of histories, written by authors of diverse philosophies/religions?

donjazet:


I don't understand the urge you guys have to term someone who doesn't agree with you "gay". Is it that you think it's a derogatory term or what? So geenstejay is now gay because he has a different point of view?

popizaino:



Argentina - foward

This is the only one i'm sure about

TiAd:

They're just following the founders of their religion, who have killed and persecuted millions of gay and lesbian people.

I'm straight. As far as I know, people that are gay and lesbian are not sub-human and deserve equal right and respect as straight people.

BlueAngel444:
the guy sounds worse than a fanatic, his anger and hatred lacks definition. He is an amoeba of religious hatred and opinion in attempt to think he is wiser than every other person.

Everything Otem says is law to him, he idolizes the Bleep off Otem yet he degrades those who bow to other gods.

donjazet:


I do agree with you on some of your stances but sometimes you do seem confused and irrational.

I agree with you when you say a lot of religious people in our society are willfully ignorant due to the consistent forms of indoctrination they undergo.
However, you must recognize how absurd you sound whenever you site an unknown entity as otem as a revered source of history and support an outlandish claim such as Jesus coming to ife.
You have drowned yourself in pseudo-factual history and you don't even see it.

You have a unique situation where you have jumped from frying pan to the fire.
Enough said.

popizaino:



Argentina - foward

This is the only one i'm sure about

Unlimited22:

Brazil?

airmark:


Otem told the fool that Jesus went to Ife to learn magic, he didnt bother to find out if such story is true and found in any book that details the history of Ile Ife. But the mugu has the gut to call beliefs from other religions, silly.

gensteejay:

[s]Ọmọ́ ọ̀dẹ̀. You didn't say anything reasonable. As always.

When you're ready to learn the real history of your religion, I would be glad to state how all the practices of Christianity are of paganistic roots.

Is it the Easter celebration copied from goddess Histar that's original? Is it the days of the week? Is it the months of the year? Is it the fasting your pastors do? Is it the cross?

Is it the concept of hell (from pagan god El)? Is it the resurrection of fictitious Jesus?

None of them is original. All of them were common practices of pagans (animists) predating Christianity, not to talk of their younger brother, Islam.

Enough said.[/s]

TiAd:

If you were smart, you would have realized that whether your fictitious Jesus existed or learned anything from other parts of Africa (apart from Egypt) is a mere position in an argument.

In reality, fictitious people play no role currently in human lives. It's humans that do everything.

Whether fictitious Jesus, Olorun, Yahweh, Allah, etc. existed or not, it's humans that co-create their reality, not any god.

airmark:




I'm always confused.

Jesus learnt magic in Ife. No sense

My Jesus is fictitious.

Otem don pack fufu for your brain.

gensteejay:

If you can follow this your advice and let others (freethinkers, atheists, etc.) have peace of mind in society without disturbing them with noises of end time, judgment of a god etc., the world would have been a lot saner.

pamcode:
Yh. Why Kaka over Ronaldinho?

BlueAngel444:

Who is the you, this one is mentioning.

If they or una no get peace of mind, whose fault is that.

Well it's obvious there is no peace for the wicked.

Let us see how sane, place where they don't fear god is like na.

airmark:


Otem told the fool that Jesus went to Ife to learn magic, he didnt bother to find out if such story is true and found in any book that details the history of Ile Ife. But the mugu has the gut to call beliefs from other religions, silly.

thorrvik55:


Defence, Italy.. No one else comes close IMO

BlueAngel444:
at least other religions deceive with magic tricks, all that guy saw were words on a tiny screen.

He has always been looking for a justification for his innate stupidity and otem gave him and his like a voice for it. With a story cooked up, a story that evolves and changes the said character and nature of their god.

The MF doesn't even know otem subscribes to God Almighty as a religion

TiAd:

We know it's only religious noises you people manufacture anyway; coronavirus revealed how useless prayers (mere wishes) are.

Funnily enough, it's your fellow Christians that mostly campaign against noise pollution from churches. Lols.

So many churches, so many mosques, yet little humanity. So many religious people, yet there's so much corruption in the land.

Hmmm.

airmark:


Was it Lagere, Igboya, Ojaja or Mokuro that Jesus met Eshu to learn his magic?

sod09:

Orji Kalu is coming to purchase some stakes in Arsenal

I hope you're celebrating wherever you are

TiAd:

Quote where Otem told you this (I know that post only exists in your small mind).

It would actually be shocking if you can say anything reasonable other than cheap, incoherent lies.

Otem calls his philosophy the use of brain, encourages people to use the brain, stop worshiping any god or God, and shift their focus to themselves.

I am sure using the brain is a great abomination to a gullible person that believes a fictitious character, who was only manufactured by Rome some 2000 years ago died for his/her sin? Yet, the earth and humanity have been existing for millions of years.

Well, on this thread and Otem's, my stance on the historical text he's compiling is well stated.

BlueAngel444:
fellow christians are they not your fellows as well or do I own them or tell you I was a christian.

Before you jump like a frog and crock like one make sure you know where the water is.

You that us typing are you not corrupt?
Are you religious?
What have you even done to affect corruption?


The way you assume religious people are all corrupt, does that mean they are the ones spreading the corruption or what exactly is your point.

If you claim prayers are useless, then are your posts useful?

BlueAngel444:


I have no doubt that Item's philosophy is a by product of his brain and manufactured in his thought.

BlueAngel444:

But STFU when you do not know Otem claims to have received his revelations from supernatural being and your baseless defense is to assume he didn't say so.

BlueAngel444:
[s]"I am sure using the brain is a great abomination to a gullible person that believes a fictitious character" calling others gullible doesn't mean you are not gullible neither does it hide your gulliblity, so would you claim that the characters Otem writes about are not fictious but the character Jesus that is historically documented, not that he wrote about himself but others wrote about him, is very much verified, is a fiction.

If christians are deceptive then there is more sense to what they say than otem's nonsense. And lies are things you can't verify.[/s]

TiAd:

What's this guy saying? I asked you to state what my beliefs are, and you can't even mention them and you're talking of the history of my beliefs.

Where I am heading to after death is my choice to make. Just as a person's thoughts create their reality (life) on earth, their thoughts also create their reality in afterlife.

Nature will take care of that.

Read this your advice again; preach it to your brethren; and follow it. Perhaps, there will be less religious noises of end time, hell-fire, coming of a god in society.

You choose where you want to go after death. Nature takes care of that.

It's nothing to worry about.

TiAd:

That's your opinion, which doesn't hold any water.

Otem gave his sources in the book, and all philosophies including the one of yESHUa and Muhammad are man-made.

A reasonable person will learn things from the sensible ones (not follow a specific one), and ignore the evil ones in religion.


Okay, quote where he said so, or stop imagining silly things.




Fictitious characters don't play any role in reality. Humans do everything.

BlueAngel444:
[s]abeg MorataFC no vex, pass me your mic, this fvcker knows nothings about reality.

A person’s thought creates their reality, what kinda of fvcked up reality TV show or motivational video did you pick that crap from. No work, dey dream, na poverty go kill u.

You thinking dreaming of fried rice equals to it's manifestion in real life. People have dreamed and died with those dreams and no manifestation. So you think you can create crap by thinking of it, if it were so I would be flying to work everyday.

You choice where you go after death, Hey motherfvxker people don't even choose when they die. Heck we even pick when we want to fly, pay for the goddamn flight and the airline still fvcks up your schedule. And this one thinks our mind that fails us in real life will create an escorts vehicle to take us where we want when our bodies are roting in a grave[/s]

TiAd:

the majority of people look up or pray to a god to develop the land, consoling themselves with a paradise.

The roots of docility and corruption lies in those beliefs. When many face reality, people will realize we create our realities, and no god does.