sleekdot:


Who are the great keepers from Spain you can recall?

Casillas, Paco Buyo, Jose Molina, Juan Carlos Ablanedo, Jose Angel Iriba, De Gea, Luis Arconada e.t.c

Expert17:


Goalkeeper Spain ? Please change it

Why and to which country? Only Germany may be better than Spain in the goalkeeper category

afrodoc2:



Germany and Italy before Spain.

I agree with you concerning Germany, but I do not quite agree that Italy has historically had better Goalkeepers than Spain.

LostMyZeal:




They're stats ofcourse

Fraudulent stats accrued all through his stay at Barcelona while he was busy faking his retirements and making empty promises upandan

The strange thing is....Your Messi is only just a Barca Legend

And even if he ends up winning the World cup...it will never mean shii to me...FIFA actually wish they gifted him the World cup ...but the world is watching

But I wanna ask you just one question

Do you think Messi is a fraudulent hypocrite?

Answer honestly

How is he fraudulent. He has played in the best league in the world and made it his own, has distinguished himself in champions league and is the record goal scorer for Argentina.

He is the most prolific goalscorer, most precise passer and the most effective dribble in the world.

If that's your definition of fraud, you should probably change your dictionary

schurley:


Why was he not hitting the 40-50 goal marks steady in England as he was doing in Madrid, note, Cr7 role shifted from be a midfielder in 442 formation to a right wing forward RWF in his latter years in the United shirt, so spare me your long sermon about playin auxiliary foward or locomotive inverting forward, the facts still remain out of all the leagues Cr7 played in Laliga was the easiest for him in terms of goal scoring. His game to goal ratio solidify my argument, even after leaving the league in two years he his still the only player with the record highest hatricks, whilst playing there in just 9 years.

As for playing with better players, i should be made to believe that, Van Nistelrooy, Rooney, Scholes, Giggs, Vidic, Evra, Berbatov, Ferdinard, Roy Keane, a team with the likes of Diego Forlan, Saha, Tevez, on the benchwere inferior, a team that won 3 epl on a roll, and a back to back Champions league finalist before leaving were filled inferior to Real Madrid team?

You have no case! The Spanish Laliga is a league with lower quality in defence, were you can be scoring 40 goals per season for 6 years, without go slow or holdup. It maybe the best league (due to the Barca and Real factors), but it's never the most competitive league in the world. Even Ibramovic confessed to the competitiveness and rigor of the Ep when he had like 10 games goal drought in the league.

@ your last statement, maybe cemented in Camp nou because outside there, even in his hometown he is just a one of Argentine good forward with nice stats which 60% are from friendlies, Barcelona club legend, i reckon but greatest ever, even Messi be angry at you, for such fallacious statement.

Woe to Bartholomew, I'm eager for Messi to come and destroy the Epl

Omo! This your rant no just follow at all. Lemme try to make sense of what you said and rebut your points one after the other:

1. If Ronaldo's goalscoring tally improved in la liga because of shitty la liga defenders, why did his goalscoring also improve in champions league after his move to real Madrid? Make sure you answer this please.

2. Are you seriously arguing that Manchester United had a better team than Real madrid? Because if you are, you are clueless. Real Madrid bought two recent world bests in a transfer window to a team that was already star-studded. The only thing Man utd had over real Madrid then was Fergie.

3. With regards to your claim that EPL is more competitive, competitiveness does not connotes quality. Or is the Nigerian league better than EPL because it is more competitive?

4. And I'm not the only one that called him greatest ever, people like Klopp, Rooney, Henry, people that their opinions matter in the football word believe that he is already the greatest ever.

So you can throw tantrums if you like, the people that matter mostly consider him the GOAT, your opinion doesn't matter outside nairaland

spillo1:
It's been a while England had a balance squad like this . I wish southgate would stop using that 3-4-3 system and move to a standard 4-3-3 formation.


Sterling/Rashford Kane. Sancho/Sterling


Grealish


Henderson/Dier. Rice/Mount



Chilwell. Mag. Gomez. Walker/TAA

There is so much creativity and finishing prowess in that team plus players from the bench in Foden, Greenwood,Etc

England have the squad to be the 2nd Favorites to win the Euros after France.

spillo1:
It's been a while England had a balance squad like this . I wish southgate would stop using that 3-4-3 system and move to a standard 4-3-3 formation.


Sterling/Rashford Kane. Sancho/Sterling


Grealish


Henderson/Dier. Rice/Mount



Chilwell. Mag. Gomez. Walker/TAA

There is so much creativity and finishing prowess in that team plus players from the bench in Foden, Greenwood,Etc

I sincerely do not know what's wrong with SouthGate. Man is so clueless of what is in front of him.

odizeey:


Forget this trap you want to set. Were the class of 92 or any players that were mention there termed GOATS? Nothing like GOAT defender.

You mean Maldini, Baresi, Gerd Muller, Xavi, Iniesta are not GOATS

afrodoc2:


I was just saying it. Zoff and Albertosi were cannibalizing each other. The same way Clements and Shilton did for England.

The ultimate cannibalization was Pagliuca cannibalizing Zenga only to be cannibalized by Peruzzi whose career was now cannibalized by a combination of Buffon and Toldo. The person that suffered the most was Marchegianni who was at best no 4 in Italy when he would have been no1 in most other countries and he was the only one who was never a starter in a tournament.

You think that was bad? Try Germany
Since I started watching Germany fully

Germany had Bodo Illgner starting beyond his sell date when Andy Kopke was ready
When Illgner left, Kopke now overstayed his own time till 1998 world cup and ate half of Oliver Kahns career
Oliver Kahn started from 2000 and also cannibalized most of Jens Lehman career until 2006 when Klinsman forcefully benched Kahn
After 2008 when Lehmann, Enke was already chopping minutes meant for Rene Adler and Neuer until he died
Adler became number 1 until he got injured just towards 2010 world cup courtesy of Neuers jazz and that was the end of his career
Neuer became number 1 since 2010 and his effective jazz ensured no one ever challenged him, any keeper who tried to will meet with misfortune between the goal

Ter Stergen at Mochengladbach made noise that he should be number 1, they tried him in friendlies and he started passing to opponents to score cheap goals
MAtS left Germany to avoid Neuers curse, Neuer got injured and he started a few but was leaking goals.
Neuer came back and last CL when he was supposed to prove he was better than Neuer in the CL quarter vs Bayern, That match became a fiasco for him

All the others like Kevin Trapp, Leno have accepted their fate now, Alex Nubel who should be starting for 90% of ther countries and clubs is now sitting comfortably on the Bayern bench waiting for Neuer

SyIvalord:
Casillas, Paco Buyo, Jose Molina, Juan Carlos Ablanedo, Jose Angel Iriba, De Gea, Luis Arconada e.t.c

Who are these people? I even see Jose Molina there. The Deportivo keeper?He will never start a game for Italy never mind Germany

SyIvalord:
I agree with you concerning Germany, but I do not quite agree that Italy has historically had better Goalkeepers than Spain.

Who has Spain produced that can match Zenga, Buffon, Pagluica and Zoff

sleekdot:


You mean Maldini, Baresi, Gerd Muller, Xavi, Iniesta are not GOATS

Since we've been arguing GOAT did anyone bring up these names? How many ballon d'Or do they have combined?

Wo. I don't have time. Pele said he's GOAT, people have called Maradona GOAT, CR7 called himself GOAT, Messi carried a goat to do a photoshoot, but you are bringing people who did not claim or were slated as GOAT.


The issue here is, as an undisputed champion you have to go where the fight is. Dare.
You can stay one place if you are not the undisputed champion.

At the end of the day we'll just sneak Messi in as one of the best attackers

sleekdot:


Who are these people? I even see Jose Molina there. The Deportivo keeper?He will never start a game for Italy never mind Germany

If you don't know these people, then you should go watch them before concluding.

Were all the Italian great goalkeepers guaranteed starters for Italy throughout the course of their careers?

The fact that C Ronaldo is a Man Utd legend does not mean you have to shit over the achievements of a contemporary. This is kind of too much.

LostMyZeal:




They're stats ofcourse

Fraudulent stats accrued all through his stay at Barcelona while he was busy faking his retirements and making empty promises upandan

The strange thing is....Your Messi is only just a Barca Legend

And even if he ends up winning the World cup...it will never mean shii to me...FIFA actually wish they gifted him the World cup ...but the world is watching

But I wanna ask you just one question

Do you think Messi is a fraudulent hypocrite?

Answer honestly

sleekdot:


Who has Spain produced that can match Zenga, Buffon, Pagluica and Zoff

Casillas, De Gea, Ricardo Zamora, Andoni Zubizaretta

SyIvalord:
Casillas, De Gea, Ricardo Zamora, Andoni Zubizaretta

Zubizareta is a mediocre keeper and no better than Abbiati

Careful man. Careful. The bolded is complete bullshit. . Who says i cannot be the undisputed coach where i am at? Which school of thought is that?

odizeey:

Since we've been arguing GOAT did anyone bring up these names? How many ballon d'Or do they have combined?

Wo. I don't have time. Pele said he's GOAT, people have called Maradona GOAT, CR7 called himself GOAT, Messi carried a goat to do a photoshoot, but you are bringing people who did not claim or were slated as GOAT.


The issue here is, as an undisputed champion you have to go where the fight is. Dare.
You can stay one place if you are not the undisputed champion.

At the end of the day we'll just sneak Messi in as one of the best attackers

SyIvalord:
If you don't know these people, then you should go watch them before concluding.

Were all the Italian great goalkeepers guaranteed starters for Italy throughout the course of their careers?

If its just to go wikipedia and copy names anyone can do that. Imagine keepers who barely layed for their country, who were not noted for anything in football

You can as well write Baruwa, Ejide Akpeyi to complete the list

odizeey:

Since we've been arguing GOAT did anyone bring up these names? How many ballon d'Or do they have combined?

Wo. I don't have time. Pele said he's GOAT, people have called Maradona GOAT, CR7 called himself GOAT, Messi carried a goat to do a photoshoot, but you are bringing people who did not claim or were slated as GOAT.


The issue here is, as an undisputed champion you have to go where the fight is. Dare.
You can stay one place if you are not the undisputed champion.

At the end of the day we'll just sneak Messi in as one of the best attackers

How many Balon dor did Pele win?

sleekdot:


Zubizareta is a mediocre keeper and no better than Abbiati

k

sleekdot:


If its just to go wikipedia and copy names anyone can do that. Imagine keepers who barely layed for their country, who were not noted for anything in football

You can as well write Baruwa, Ejide Akpeyi to complete the list

k

benji93:
Careful man. Careful. The bolded is complete bullshit. . Who says i cannot be the undisputed coach where i am at? Which school of thought is that?

Who is talking about coach? If you want to talk about Ferguson, go check his records. Ferguson left Arbideen and came to united where there was war.
Mourinho left Porto and came to Chelsea where there was war.
Pep left Barca to Bayern and Man City.

Pogba will willingly play DM for France but doesn't want to play DM for Manchester United. Fraudulent fellow.

Dayo Abeg wetin dey happen?

4-0

benji93:
The fact that C Ronaldo is a Man Utd legend does not mean you have to shit over the achievements of a contemporary. This is kind of too much.

No holds barred bro

No holds barred


Going all in with my tanks

sleekdot:


How many Balon dor did Pele win?

Did Pele play in Europe?

randomperson:


How is he fraudulent. He has played in the best league in the world and made it his own, has distinguished himself in champions league and is the record goal scorer for Argentina.

He is the most prolific goalscorer, most precise passer and the most effective dribble in the world.

If that's your definition of fraud, you should probably change your dictionary

Look how you conveniently left the "hypocrite" part


Oya...do you think Messi is a hypocrite


Make I know if you dey fear God

Oh sorry, i actually meant undisputed best Player. . Na matter for naother place dey my mind wey i take enter here.

odizeey:

Who is talking about coach? If you want to talk about Ferguson, go check his records. Ferguson left Arbideen and came to united where there was war.
Mourinho left Porto and came to Chelsea where there was war.
Pep left Barca to Bayern and Man City.

Roland17:
Dayo Abeg wetin dey happen?

4-0

Loew must go

3 more goals from Spain

BlueAngel444:

Modric scores, passes like Pirlo does, assists, has ball control, dribbles what exactly does Xavi do better than Pirlo or Modric is it play 1 million passes, or what exactly does iniesta do better is dancing with the ball so that messi can score.

What exactly are you typing tho
Looks like you're answering your stvpid questions by yaself

Anyways... you seem lost


How may I help ya

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benji93:
Oh sorry, i actually meant undisputed best Player. . Na matter for naother place dey my mind wey i take enter here.

All his mates claiming GOAT have done things outside their comfort zone. Let him do also. At least, for Argentina.