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Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by tintingz(m): 8:54pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
Atheism is simply LACK OF BELIEF in the existence God/s. Why are some people trying to confuse themselves. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by vaxx: 8:56pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
tintingz:like what bro. maybe you are right |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 8:59pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:Hmm. So if I don't go to church on Sunday, I am an atheist, or not a theist? I disagree. Or shall I say, not good enough for me! I am an atheist. I am an atheist because there are no gods apart from those cooked up in the minds of those who believe in them. Gods only exist as figments of the imaginations in the mind. |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by vaxx: 9:06pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
for education purpose only, this link explain the taxonomy behind atheism definition. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/ |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by tintingz(m): 9:09pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
vaxx:The OP already mentioned what atheist and agnostic atheist is, you sha want to argue. |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by vaxx: 9:14pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
tintingz:And you want me to swallow the ignorance. and as for arguing, leave that for the lawyers 1 Like |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 9:16pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
tintingz:Yet despite op already mentioning, you still claim its the above? I suggest yo do not disregard vaxx's link. Therefore, in philosophy at least, atheism should be construed as the proposition that God does not exist (or, more broadly, the proposition that there are no gods). |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Nobody: 9:27pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
tintingz:Exactly. I don't care how prominent minds define it and to be honest, I don't think anyone should. I like the parable Matt Dillahunty talks about: It is true that there is either an even or an odd number of grains of sand on earth (let's assume we have a clear definition of a grain and the number is unchanging). It's impossible to count them to make sure. Evenists claim there is an even number of grains. To them an a-evenist says "no, you have absolutely no justification for that claim". So they answer "ah, so you're an oddist"? Of course not. Even though these two propositions are mutually exclusive, there's absolutely no reason to believe either of them. Everyone who tries to equate lack of belief with a belief of lack is an idiot, even if they are a professor of philosophy. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Bacteriologist(m): 9:32pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
tintingz: I've ignored him. I got no energy for that level of thinking. 1 Like |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by vaxx: 9:38pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
Bacteriologist:stop being obtuse, what is the purpose of your knolwedge if it is full of ignorance . And what i am doing here is to brighting your understanding. i realised your post is full of the usual mantra And if you think by ignoring we serve you well , so be it. 2 Likes |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by LordReed(m): 9:43pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX: It seems to be a difficult subject for some theists to wrap their heads around. They'll always say to someone who declares "I don't believe in god", well what do you believe then? As though one must believe in something. Some of them will even insist your nonbelief is a form of belief. 3 Likes |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by tintingz(m): 9:56pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:Well said. I wonder why some people just want to complicate things. |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 9:56pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
Bacteriologist:Obviously, you don't have "energy for that level of thinking". Because rather than count the grains of sand to determine which is true, you'd "don't care how prominent minds define it", and insist those who do shouldn't either! Because, according to you, whether gods exist or not is a mutual exclusion. Despite the proper definition and meaning you yourself gave not admitting to holding a mutual exclusive view. And when the theists comes along and claims the number of sands is how they say it is, you claim they are "ignorant", "stupid", "illogical", "making up ridiculous conclusions" and "need to stop"! Here's two definitions of Hypocrite, XxsabrinaxxX. Just so we know what it means. Hypocrisy is the contrivance of a false appearance of virtue or goodness, while concealing real character or inclinations, especially with respect to religious and moral beliefs; hence, in a general sense, hypocrisy may involve dissimulation, pretense, or a sham. Hypocrisy is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or activity for which one criticizes another. In moral psychology, it is the failure to follow one's own expressed moral rules and principles. Hypocrisy is when one douchebag calls out another douchebag for being a douchebag, and the second douchebag responds to this by calling the first one a hypocrite. |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 10:01pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
vaxx:But that does not mean we wouldn't correct his errors, as you well know we would! Or the op would go propounding the same ignorance thread after thread misinforming everyone then some lazy theist would quote op to support their silly argument! Besides, his thread was to correct such ignorance so we must help op! |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by vaxx: 10:05pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
budaatum:he sound too confidence with his ignorance. 1 Like |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by tintingz(m): 10:07pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
budaatum:The position of atheism is plain and clear. There's no proof, evidence and logical reason to believe God/s exist(especially personal gods), therefore atheists lack the belief of their existence. That's just it. |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by tintingz(m): 10:07pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
vaxx:ok |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 10:11pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
tintingz:Some of us are telling you that there is sufficient evidence to categorically state that gods do not exist! And whatever anyone decides to believe is inconsequential and irrelevant, since the very idea of 'belief' stinks of theism! 1 Like |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 10:12pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
vaxx:It is the ignorant who are always most confident! They, and those who actually know, I guess. 2 Likes |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Nobody: 10:21pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
There's nothing wrong with atheism. The fault lies in human wisdom and the way things are interpreted. Theism is unjustifiable. That being said, strong atheists (those that assert that no gods exist) equally have a burden of proof. |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Bacteriologist(m): 10:21pm On Jan 28, 2019 |
tintingz: Well said. 1 Like |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 12:24am On Jan 29, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:To be honest, I really don't have any burden to prove to you that there are no gods, and I don't. But then, if I were a theist, I wouldn't be proving to you my god exists either, at least not in the way you'd be expecting. It is my opinion that everyone can determine whether gods exist or not, and what they exist for. Besides, attempting to prove to you either way is to assume you'd understand it if I slapped you in the face with it and stuck it in your eyes as if your mind worked like mine! buda does not ridicule herself by making out she is the equal of anyone! 1 Like |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Nobody: 12:36am On Jan 29, 2019 |
budaatum:As i've stated time without number, your belief in any deity is not my cup of tea until you start to shove it my face. To quote the late Christopher Hitchens: "First, first I've said repeatedly that this stuff [(religion)] cannot be taken away from people, it is their favourite toy, and it will remain so as long - as [Sigmund] Freud said, in The Future Of An Illusion - it will remain that way as long as we're afraid of death and have that problem which is, I think, will likely be a very long time. "Second, I hope I've made it clear, that I'm perfectly happy for people to have these toys, and to play with them at home, and hug them to themselves and so on, and to share them with other people who come around and play with the toys. So that's absolutely fine. They are not to make me play with these toys. I will not play with the toys. Don't bring the toys to my house, don't say my children must play with these toys, don't say my toys might be a condom - here we go again - are not allowed by their toys. I'm not going to have any of that. "Enough with clerical and religious bullying and intimidation. Is that finally clear? Have I got that across? [Audience applause.] Thank you." (May 7, 2007) 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 12:44am On Jan 29, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:Wouldn't it be funny if you are imagining me shoving a belief in a deity in your face? It will be like it's a zebra, but you think it's a horse. Don't be surprised if you load your goods on it's back and it just runs off with it. Zebras don't do domestic like horses do. |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Nobody: 12:47am On Jan 29, 2019 |
budaatum:Lol. Budaatum, abeg ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Rextizz(m): 8:30pm On Jan 31, 2019 |
XxSabrinaxX:Hmmmmmm |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by HappyPagan: 8:57am On Feb 15, 2019 |
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Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Bacteriologist(m): 11:38pm On Nov 26, 2020 |
budaatum: Provide this evidence |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 12:27am On Nov 27, 2020 |
Bacteriologist:The evidence is that it is a belief. If it were provided believers would know. |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Bacteriologist(m): 12:46am On Nov 27, 2020 |
budaatum: The evidence of the belief that gods do not exist is that it is a belief. Does that really make sense to you? |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Judybash93(m): 1:54am On Nov 27, 2020 |
vaxx:It simply means, they don't have enough evidence to come to the conclusion that there's a god or gods |
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by budaatum: 3:34am On Nov 27, 2020 |
Bacteriologist:No that does not make any sense at all so why did you say it? Do you require evidence of a belief than that someone is doing the believing? |
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