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Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by LordReed(m): 7:09pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:

That's my point!
It is a very STUPID definition to claim that Atheism is a LACK of BELIEF!

All ANIMALS lack a belief therefore, are atheists!?

LoLz. So in other words an AGNOSTIC atheist is actually a GNOSTIC atheist according to TenQ. OK thanks. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by TenQ: 7:09pm On Jun 23, 2022
LordReed:


LoLz. So in other words an AGNOSTIC atheist is actually a GNOSTIC atheist according to TenQ. OK thanks. Bwahahahahaha!
All ANIMALS lack a belief therefore, are atheists!?
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Maynmann: 7:10pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:

So according to you, Atheism is a DISBELIEF and not a LACK of BELIEF!?

Many of your kind disagree with you

the origin of the word says so.

Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Maynmann: 7:11pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:

So according to you, Atheism is a DISBELIEF and not a LACK of BELIEF!?

Many of your kind disagree with you

Maybe they mean this

Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by LordReed(m): 7:11pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:

All ANIMALS lack a belief therefore, are atheists!?

No they are not atheists just like babies are not atheists.
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by TenQ: 7:12pm On Jun 23, 2022
Maynmann:


the origin of the word says so.
So, which one did you want us to believe?
The OP and LordReed swears that Atheism is a Lack of Belief rather than a DISBELIEF!
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Maynmann: 7:13pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:

So, which one did you want us to believe?
The OP and LordReed swears that Atheism is a Lack of Belief rather than a DISBELIEF!

That’s the meaning. It’s a Greek word not mine.

Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by TenQ: 7:14pm On Jun 23, 2022
LordReed:


No they are not atheists just like babies are not atheists.
But they lack a belief is any Deity!?

1. First, Why do animals lack a belief? It may indicate how Atheists too lack beliefs
2. According to this definition of yours, animals should be Atheists (they truely lack a belief)!
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by TenQ: 7:15pm On Jun 23, 2022
Maynmann:


That’s the meaning. It’s a Greek word not mine.
Then maybe you should correct both LordReed and the OP as they hold contrary opinions
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by LordReed(m): 7:16pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:

But they lack a belief is any Deity!?

1. First, Why do animals lack a belief? It may indicate how Atheists too lack beliefs
2. According to this definition of yours, animals should be Atheists (they truely lack a belief)!

Because they cannot interact with the concepts at all same way a baby can't.
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Maynmann: 7:17pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:

Then maybe you should correct both LordReed and the OP as they hold contrary opinions

Okay.
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by LordReed(m): 7:18pm On Jun 23, 2022
Maynmann:


That’s the meaning. It’s a Greek word not mine.

How does godless mean disbelief? What is the meaning of AGNOSTIC?
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by LordReed(m): 7:19pm On Jun 23, 2022
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Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by TenQ: 7:19pm On Jun 23, 2022
Maynmann:


That’s the meaning. It’s a Greek word not mine.


Bacteriologist:
Having observed a lot of ignorant definition of Atheism and Atheists from Theists, I find it will be of great help to aid everyone in understanding what Atheism really means.

Let's start with what Atheism is not:


Atheism is NOT a belief. Atheism is a complete, total and absolute LACK OF BELIEF in all gods, goddesses and deities. Atheism is a rejection of belief and so therefore does not, in itself, require belief or faith as that would be illogical. You do not believe that Unicorns or leprechauns exist, do you? That's exactly how Atheism is, too.





So there, Theists, is what you need to stop making up ridiculous conclusions about Atheists and atheism in general every now and then.

Atheists feel free to add other hasty generalisations about Atheism from theists that are often false.
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by TenQ: 7:20pm On Jun 23, 2022
LordReed:
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Here is the OP
Bacteriologist:
Having observed a lot of ignorant definition of Atheism and Atheists from Theists, I find it will be of great help to aid everyone in understanding what Atheism really means.

Let's start with what Atheism is not:

First, Atheism is NOT a religion. Religion is the belief in or worship of a supernatural/higher power. Which is exactly what atheists NEVER do. So, dear theists, again, Atheism is not a religion.

Atheism is NOT a belief. Atheism is a complete, total and absolute LACK OF BELIEF in all gods, goddesses and deities. Atheism is a rejection of belief and so therefore does not, in itself, require belief or faith as that would be illogical. You do not believe that Unicorns or leprechauns exist, do you? That's exactly how Atheism is, too.

Atheism DOES NOT offer explanation for the origin of the world. Being an atheist DOES NOT mean that one automatically accepts the big bang theory, or big crunch or "something from nothing." Some Atheists believe in the big bang while some others simply state that "We do not know YET how the universe came to be." Which seems to be pretty honest since no one knows for sure how the Universe started. So, beloved theists, Atheism is a total rejection of the belief that any god exists.

Atheism is NOT satanism: Rejection of belief in a supernatural god also includes rejection of belief in a supernatural devil. Get it, theists? God does not exist, same applies to Satan. We're not Satanists, we're atheists.

LASTLY, Satan is NOT an atheist: Satan is a fictitious deity who by definition has been "god's friend" according to most religion. So, literally, Satan is a theist and it makes it really stupid to say Satan does not believe God exists.


So there, Theists, is what you need to stop making up ridiculous conclusions about Atheists and atheism in general every now and then.

Atheists feel free to add other hasty generalisations about Atheism from theists that are often false.
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Maynmann: 7:20pm On Jun 23, 2022
LordReed:


How does godless mean disbelief? What is the meaning of AGNOSTIC?

Without knowledge

Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Dtruthspeaker: 7:21pm On Jun 23, 2022
HellVictorinho4:

If I'm wrong ,why can't anyone including the Dtruthspeaker and TenQ prove their babies have the belief?

It is unreasonable and invalid to demand the impossible and the ridiculous.
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by TenQ: 7:24pm On Jun 23, 2022
LordReed:


Because they cannot interact with the concepts at all same way a baby can't.
In other words, a Lack of Belief is only possible when a person is completely EMPTY (like a baby) or completely FULL (certainty of knowing).

Can you lack a belief that you don't exist?
Of course not! You know without an iota of doubt that your exist!
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by TenQ: 7:25pm On Jun 23, 2022
HellVictorinho4:




The baby is an atheist whether or not the parents are atheists.

If I'm wrong ,why can't anyone including the Dtruthspeaker and TenQ prove their babies have the belief?



All babies lack a belief in the existence of any deity!
Are they Atheists?

All animals too have a lack of belief in any deity, therefore are they Atheists?
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Dtruthspeaker: 7:28pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:


All babies lack a belief in the existence of any deity!
Are they Atheists?

All animals too have a lack of belief in any deity, therefore are they Atheists?

It is not right to say that they lack belief, the accurate Truth would be that they are incapable of holding a belief!
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by HellVictorinho4(m): 7:34pm On Jun 23, 2022
LordReed:


The baby is NOT an atheist same way the baby is NOT a Christian, it cannot express any ideas regarding the subject. A person cannot be an adherent of something they have no knowledge of.

Is an atheist a person that must express an idea about God?
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by HellVictorinho4(m): 7:36pm On Jun 23, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


It is not right to say that they lack belief, the accurate Truth would be that they are incapable of holding a belief!


You suggest adults can choose not to believe.... how's that?
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by HellVictorinho4(m): 7:37pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:


All babies lack a belief in the existence of any deity!
Are they Atheists?

All animals too have a lack of belief in any deity, therefore are they Atheists?


Animals are not persons.... I know you don't refer to persons as animals in this case.....so, animals are not atheists.
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by HellVictorinho4(m): 7:41pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:

In other words, a Lack of Belief is only possible when a person is completely EMPTY (like a baby) or completely FULL (certainty of knowing).

Can you lack a belief that you don't exist?
Of course not! You know without an iota of doubt that your exist!

No he says babies can't be atheists so they can't lack belief.


Except he's saying only adult humans that lack belief in God are atheists.

So, babies that lack belief are not atheists or what exactly?
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by HellVictorinho4(m): 7:42pm On Jun 23, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


It is unreasonable and invalid to demand the impossible and the ridiculous.


Also unreasonable and invalid to suggest a request for the impossible and ridiculous in my post.
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by HellVictorinho4(m): 7:43pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:

I am using your definition of LACK of a BELIEF sir

All ANIMALS lack a belief therefore, are atheists!?

All PLANTS lack a belief therefore, are atheists!?

All BUILDINGS lack a belief therefore, are atheists!?

Please answer the questions above: can you see the stupidity of the term LACK of BELIEF!?


Did you not see PERSON?
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Maynmann: 7:44pm On Jun 23, 2022
A baby is not an atheist.

Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by LordReed(m): 7:47pm On Jun 23, 2022
HellVictorinho4:


Is an atheist a person that must express an idea about God?

Well how do you know if someone is an atheist if they've never even thought about it talk less of even expressing it.
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by LordReed(m): 7:47pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:

In other words, a Lack of Belief is only possible when a person is completely EMPTY (like a baby) or completely FULL (certainty of knowing).

Can you lack a belief that you don't exist?
Of course not! You know without an iota of doubt that your exist!

How many times do I need to answer the same question?
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by LordReed(m): 7:48pm On Jun 23, 2022
Maynmann:


Without knowledge

So how does that make ATHEISM disbelief if the A is simply without?
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by HellVictorinho4(m): 7:52pm On Jun 23, 2022
TenQ:

Is a person who acknowledges the existence of Deities but doesn't worship ANY an atheist or a theist?

Accepting the existence of deities without proof makes you a theist or believer in deities' existence.

But the problem is that theists usually accept to be called theists yet claim to be aware of the proof of deities or a deity.



Have you heard of or seen any theist that has never worshipped or that never worships?
Re: Dear Theists, This Is The Real Definition Of Atheism by Maynmann: 7:52pm On Jun 23, 2022
LordReed:


So how does that make ATHEISM disbelief if the A is simply without?

Belief come from doxa which means opinions.
Knowledge from episteme which means knowledge.
You know knowledge, you believe or don’t believe opinions.


“Without god” means you have heard opinions of gods but you don’t believe ANY of them.
When you lack a belief(opinions) that means you have never heard people talk about it, you are oblivious to it.
God is a title not a person.

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