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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 2:23pm On Nov 27, 2020
Leyqute:


Cavani is one of the few strikers who are good in the air- Ronaldo, Morata, Ibrahimovic are other examples.

But it’s been a while since he’s played with intensity. If he’s fit forget it, only a few defenders will win aerial duels against him.

Let him be fit jare

More wins to United

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 2:24pm On Nov 27, 2020
KingAlabi:

I doubt
Only difference is that leizpig undoing is their crazy high line, I don't think Southampton will dare try it

They will. That's how they always play.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 2:25pm On Nov 27, 2020
patrickmuf:
Liverpool are without Van Dijk and if history is to repeat itself, expect more injuries to their players as ghen ghen pressing takes its toll...

City too are not having the best of seasons so, if we don't make the most of this season, then I don't know when we will...

If Ole gets it right, we have every chance to be right up there...

As long as Liverpool bangs goals at the other end of the pitch they have really no problems bar injury

For man City
We are already above them in the league table
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:38pm On Nov 27, 2020
KingAlabi:


The rivals we compare ourselves to are outright better than us like Liverpool and mancity

If we loose a match and Liverpool looses too in a way it is fvcked up for us to compare but also soothing that the gap isnt increasing.

This is my view Sha

No. They are right.

Na subtle and subconscious acceptance of mediocrity dey lead to that kind of thinking.

Na mindset thing wey person no go realize himself.

Think of it this way. You and your class mate both scored low in Economics and you are happy forgetting that your classmate will make up for it by smashing Maths, Physics, Chemistry e.t.c

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:45pm On Nov 27, 2020
JayromWrites:


You obviously a troll


Drop your best player, who does that?

Person wey I don diagnose within his first few messages. Some ailments can be deciphered based on justify taking alone and no need for physical examination. Na una dey give am time of day.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:49pm On Nov 27, 2020
Leyqute:


We were all over the place because we tried to build from the back with Maguire and Matic and Ole wasn’t brilliant enough to exploit the gaping holes left in midfield by their pressers.

Many ways dey to beat the press. If Bruno or any of the attackers drop deep and occupy the space left by their midfielders who joined in the pressing, we can inflict serious damage whenever that attacker gets the ball.

I’ve seen Pep do this with KdB.

You need your holding midfielder to be comfortable on the ball and especially on the half turn, and you need both full backs to be comfortable on the ball and the CBs to be good on the ball and comfortable in wide areas.

Our team is not built for playing from the back, which is why competent pressing teams make our attempts at building from the back appear suicidal.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nani667: 3:05pm On Nov 27, 2020
#OleOUT

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 3:11pm On Nov 27, 2020
afrodoc2:


No. They are right.

Na subtle and subconscious acceptance of mediocrity dey lead to that kind of thinking.

Na mindset thing wey person no go realize himself.

Think of it this way. You and your class mate both scored low in Economics and you are happy forgetting that your classmate will make up for it by smashing Maths, Physics, Chemistry e.t.c

The thing is that we all have high expectations
But to avoid bashing of hopes

We gats dey one leg in and another leg out

But first of all

Do you think we have a team that can challenge for the title ?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 3:12pm On Nov 27, 2020
afrodoc2:


You need your holding midfielder to be comfortable on the ball and especially on the half turn, and you need both full backs to be comfortable on the ball and the CBs to be good on the ball and comfortable in wide areas.

Our team is not built for playing from the back, which is why competent pressing teams make our attempts at building from the back appear suicidal.
Our defenders are shaky on the ball this is always our Bruno

I just dey imagine a Bruno like defender with that confidence, even if you rush am e go dribble you. angry

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 3:13pm On Nov 27, 2020
Dortmund have started hyping mokuoko oh

Make Dem hype am jare, we need haaland angry

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:21pm On Nov 27, 2020
KingAlabi:


The thing is that we all have high expectations
But to avoid bashing of hopes

We gats dey one leg in and another leg out

But first of all

Do you think we have a team that can challenge for the title ?

Yes we do. The way this season is going an unexpected EPL winner might emerge.

I am not saying we are favorites but with City struggling so badly we should make a push this season.

Our weakest position is at manager which is why people are having low expectations.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:23pm On Nov 27, 2020
KingAlabi:
Dortmund have started hyping mokuoko oh

Make Dem hype am jare, we need haaland angry

I believe that guy is an age cheat. The way he looks and the way he has been manhandling players at youth level makes me suspicious.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:34pm On Nov 27, 2020
afrodoc2:


I believe that guy is an age cheat. The way he looks and the way he has been manhandling players at youth level makes me suspicious.

Na Cameroonian plantain cause am grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 3:50pm On Nov 27, 2020
afrodoc2:


Yes we do. The way this season is going an unexpected EPL winner might emerge.

I am not saying we are favorites but with City struggling so badly we should make a push this season.

Our weakest position is at manager which is why people are having low expectations.

I share these views
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 4:05pm On Nov 27, 2020
afrodoc2:


Yes we do. The way this season is going an unexpected EPL winner might emerge.

I am not saying we are favorites but with City struggling so badly we should make a push this season.

Our weakest position is at manager which is why people are having low expectations.

You are very right
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 4:06pm On Nov 27, 2020
afrodoc2:


I believe that guy is an age cheat. The way he looks and the way he has been manhandling players at youth level makes me suspicious.
Does any African immigrant football ever play with their real age

That guy should be older than haaland
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 4:31pm On Nov 27, 2020
afrodoc2:


No. They are right.

Na subtle and subconscious acceptance of mediocrity dey lead to that kind of thinking.

Na mindset thing wey person no go realize himself.

Think of it this way. You and your class mate both scored low in Economics and you are happy forgetting that your classmate will make up for it by smashing Maths, Physics, Chemistry e.t.c
Doc and every other person know sey me no like our current state, was just wondering how even the media didn't have a little go at Liverpool, but will sell papers if na we loose. Am still an active OLEOUT geng, would really love to see what Poch will do with this team...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:31pm On Nov 27, 2020
patrickmuf:
Liverpool are without Van Dijk and if history is to repeat itself, expect more injuries to their players as ghen ghen pressing takes its toll...

City too are not having the best of seasons so, if we don't make the most of this season, then I don't know when we will...

If Ole gets it right, we have every chance to be right up there...

History shocked,what history? ghen-ghen pressing taking its toll grin grin.....

Pickford intentionally injured vandijk,Richarlison injured Injury prone Thiago on purpose too.....When Gomez begins to pick form and show his potential,Gbam...him village people go press him button and then long term 6-8mths injury...

Just like lallana and Sturridge,players like Henderson,big Shaq,Keita,ox chambo,matip, Allison are injury players and have nothing to do with gegen pressing...

You don hear say mane,Salah,firmino,Van dijk(before Pickford evil),robertson,wijnaldum miss 3 matches in a row grin and na them be the gegen-pressing and machine always doing the running consistently for 3 years plus...

Just had to say this before you lots starts to get your hopes up grin cheesy and hoping for calamity on Liverpool so you can win the league

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:32pm On Nov 27, 2020
afrodoc2:


You need your holding midfielder to be comfortable on the ball and especially on the half turn, and you need both full backs to be comfortable on the ball and the CBs to be good on the ball and comfortable in wide areas.

Our team is not built for playing from the back, which is why competent pressing teams make our attempts at building from the back appear suicidal.

Well said. But there are various ways to approach the problem and provide a solution.

Quick question- how many teams have all the criteria you’ve listed and play out from the back in the EPL? Do you notice anything particular about how Leicester play from the back?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:43pm On Nov 27, 2020
Leyqute:


Well said. But there are various ways to approach the problem and provide a solution.

Quick question- how many teams have all the criteria you’ve listed and play out from the back in the EPL? Do you notice anything particular about how Leicester play from the back?

I have not really watched them much this season but i know they have all the components at a more balanced level than us.

Their CBs are fairly good on the ball with both right and left foot.

Both fullbacks are decent on the ball.

Their CDMs are good on the half turn, something McTom and especially Fred struggle with.

Watch Leeds play. They have all the components, and it starts from Yorkshire Pirlo (Kalvin Phillips).

If your CDMs can’t turn efficiently and your full backs can’t hold the ball confidently you really should forget building from the back.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:20pm On Nov 27, 2020
nani667:
#OleOUT

Sir you need to be calming down smiley smiley smiley

Lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:45pm On Nov 27, 2020
Nikiballer:


History shocked,what history? ghen-ghen pressing taking its toll grin grin.....

Pickford intentionally injured vandijk,Richarlison injured Injury prone Thiago on purpose too.....When Gomez begins to pick form and show his potential,Gbam...him village people go press him button and then long term 6-8mths injury...

Just like lallana and Sturridge,players like Henderson,big Shaq,Keita,ox chambo,matip, Allison are injury players and have nothing to do with gegen pressing...

You don hear say mane,Salah,firmino,Van dijk(before Pickford evil),robertson,wijnaldum miss 3 matches in a row grin and na them be the gegen-pressing and machine always doing the running consistently for 3 years plus...

Just had to say this before you lots starts to get your hopes up grin cheesy and hoping for calamity on Liverpool so you can win the league

Check out Dortmund when Klopp was the manager after years of ghen ghen pressing...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:17pm On Nov 27, 2020
KingAlabi:


The thing is that we all have high expectations
But to avoid bashing of hopes

We gats dey one leg in and another leg out

But first of all

Do you think we have a team that can challenge for the title ?
For me, it's not even about challenging for the title. Just play well consistently first
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:28pm On Nov 27, 2020
patrickmuf:
Check out Dortmund when Klopp was the manager after years of ghen ghen pressing...


Yes I have checked it out but this liverpool injury woes are not because of his gegen-pressing now...

Will the players be tired, exhausted and need rest? A big fat Yes!!! Until especially the Front 3 starts falling like a pack of cards,then I will agree with you....

Except Vandijk,those that are getting injured now are those who go on their normal long and short injury holiday,the only difference is that they all seem to happen at the same time.....

Does Klopp overuse players like mourinho used to do without rotating his squad? Yes....will it catch up with him soon?? Hmmm and what is he doing differently? He prioritize the league and UCL while he uses the kids,fringe players and 2 regular senior players for cup games unlike Mourinho then who uses a strong lineup from league to carling cup...

I know people like you who have been saying since last year that Klopp system is not sustainable that injury and tiredness will kill them and will never recover,let's see what the future holds but for now it is the INJURY PRONE PLAYERS THAT ARE GETTING INJURED...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:27pm On Nov 27, 2020
afrodoc2:


I have not really watched them much this season but i know they have all the components at a more balanced level than us.

Their CBs are fairly good on the ball with both right and left foot.

Both fullbacks are decent on the ball.

Their CDMs are good on the half turn, something McTom and especially Fred struggle with.

Watch Leeds play. They have all the components, and it starts from Yorkshire Pirlo (Kalvin Phillips).

If your CDMs can’t turn efficiently and your full backs can’t hold the ball confidently you really should forget building from the back.

Right.

You can argue that Leeds have the best quality in playing out from the back in the epl and you won't be wrong. In Leicester, all the attacking midfielders at one point or the other drop back to help in the buildup. And like you said, their CBs and full backs are good on the ball and their CDM can play facing his goal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:44pm On Nov 27, 2020
E don tey o.

United for life.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 7:55pm On Nov 27, 2020
TrebleChamp:
Doc and every other person know sey me no like our current state, was just wondering how even the media didn't have a little go at Liverpool, but will sell papers if na we loose. Am still an active OLEOUT geng, would really love to see what Poch will do with this team...
that's not going to happen
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 8:12pm On Nov 27, 2020
Leyqute:


Dem no born am well to start Martial as CF. angry

We will see. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 8:40pm On Nov 27, 2020
Leyqute:


Right.

You can argue that Leeds have the best quality in playing out from the back in the epl and you won't be wrong. In Leicester, all the attacking midfielders at one point or the other drop back to help in the buildup. And like you said, their CBs and full backs are good on the ball and their CDM can play facing his goal.

As good as leeds are from playing out from the back they are still prone to mistakes if you press certain players especially one of the centre backs can't remember his name but they get away with it because they are well coached and drilled in that aspect.

They create passing triangles and passing lines but there is still an element of mistake because of the quality of the players they have.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 9:05pm On Nov 27, 2020
ChristineC:
that's not going to happen
Well Poch will definitely be the club first choice if Ole get sacked, unless he isn't available then ....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:34pm On Nov 27, 2020
Panther7:
As good as leeds are from playing out from the back they are still prone to mistakes if you press certain players especially one of the centre backs can't remember his name but they get away with it because they are well coached and drilled in that aspect.

They create passing triangles and passing lines but there is still an element of mistake because of the quality of the players they have.

Haba. That goes without saying. Each system has weak points that can be exploited. Players can make mistakes and the opposition’s pressing system may be superb.

According to Phil Neville or so, Sol Campbell was the target then at Arsenal; Fred currently is a surebanker to lose possession if the space is tight and the intensity is right; and Soyüncu and Evans can be dispossessed too. Nothing is 100% airtight.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 10:04pm On Nov 27, 2020
Leyqute:


Haba. That goes without saying. Each system has weak points that can be exploited. Players can make mistakes and the opposition’s pressing system may be superb.

According to Phil Neville or so, Sol Campbell was the target then at Arsenal; Fred currently is a surebanker to lose possession if the space is tight and the intensity is right; and Soyüncu and Evans can be dispossessed too. Nothing is 100% airtight.
I guess you are right, speaking of Fred I no rate that guy at all I'm quite surprised a lot of people here do rate the guy.

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