raumdeuter:


It is the same GOP that are standing against Trump. Most of his cases are getting thrown out by Republicans

In states like Georgia its Republicans standing for the rule of law and against Trump wishes

You hope the GOP is dead but it won't just wait till 2022

What makes you so confident about 2022 favouring the GOP?

happney65:


To upturn the votes of the people you say?Is that not what you are driving at?Why are they losing in court?why are they not presenting evidence in court yet all they want to do is to upturn the votes of the people..Isnt that what Dictators like Buhari and others do?yet we complain and rant.But your god and master wants to do the same now,you are looking the other way?

Fake votes found in WI

raumdeuter:


We have governors shooting down lies
Charlie Baker, Larry Hogan, Brian Kemp etc are all elected Republican governors against Trump openly.

All Republicans will not see things the same way especially when a sitting presidents interest is involved

Please remove that disgrace of a governor called Brian Kemp from the list.
What is keeping the GOP afloat is what they gain from redistricting/gerrymandering.

Ibime is very correct the GOP is playing a very dangerous game like it or not.
You are talking about the far left forgetting that the far right is much worse.
Lol

Timiofak:


Its been long i knew trump supporters that hate buhari
Are hypocrites, personally i hate both of them, because the stand against everything i hold deer

But if 2019 was too repeat cause, i doubt if ill pick atiku.

To summarize it for you they hate Buhari for exactly the same thing they love Trump for.

basilico:


Fake votes found in WI

Tell me more..why are they fake votes?Where is the evidence they are fake and why were they not presented in court?

Timiofak:


Its been long i knew trump supporters that hate buhari
Are hypocrites, personally i hate both of them, because the stand against everything i hold deer

But if 2019 was too repeat cause, i doubt if ill pick atiku.

They are the biggest hypocrites ever.You hate Buhari,but you love Trump..what is the difference in both of them?But when you tell them,they get angry..stupid people

AmazonTopaz:

To summarize it for you they hate Buhari for exactly the same thing they love Trump for.

Exactly they hate buhari for oppressing there biafra wants, but they love trump for oppressing minorities

They hate buhari for putting mostly notherners in postions of power, but love trump that put mostly white men in positions of power

They hate buhari for pandering to nothern muslims, fulani herdsmen and there foolishness. But love trump that panders to southern christians and there idiocy.

They hate buhari for ordering operation phyton dance to kill biafra youths, but love trump when he sends the armed force to attack protesters, because he wants to take a photo op opposite the street.

I could keep mentioning, thats just a few similarities between mr trump and buhari

Both are biased motherfvkers.

If you love one and hate one, you are an idiot.

happney65:


They are the biggest hypocrites ever.You hate Buhari,but you love Trump..what is the difference in both of them?But when you tell them,they get angry..stupid people

They cant think is why.

And someone tells me there is hope for the GOP.

Yes they will still win elections thanks to redistricting and other avenues they use in creating districts.

But there will have to be a shift in their ideology or policies they will shift far right and will have to accomodate the Trump deplorables because they will take over the party.
Unless something drastic is done(I doubt it)they are doomed.

LordReed:


LoL, he may be free but he is not innocent. What you guys don't seem to realise is because of this he will lose some things like his pension and his security clearance.

What was his crime and charge? List them out because it seems like you are not sure what he did

AmazonTopaz:

What makes you so confident about 2022 favouring the GOP?

There won't be a common enemy like Trump that turned off many Republicans, united the far left and moderate left

happney65:


They are the biggest hypocrites ever.You hate Buhari,but you love Trump..what is the difference in both of them?But when you tell them,they get angry..stupid people

Funny. I like Bubu more than the opposition but hate trump for his deplorable behaviour. If bubu behaved like trump, Nigeria right and left would be at war and the center would be calling for his head.

AmazonTopaz:

Please remove that disgrace of a governor called Brian Kemp from the list.
What is keeping the GOP afloat is what they gain from redistricting/gerrymandering.

Ibime is very correct the GOP is playing a very dangerous game like it or not.
You are talking about the far left forgetting that the far right is much worse.
Lol

Do you see the far right voting Democrats like some of the far left voted Trump in protest?

budaatum:

Funny. I like Bubu more than the opposition but hate trump for his deplorable behaviour. If bubu behaved like trump, Nigeria right and left would be at war and the center would be calling for his head.

Same here.

benalvino2:


What was his crime and charge? List them out because it seems like you are not sure what he did

On December 1, 2017, Flynn and special counsel Robert Mueller agreed to a plea bargain in the District of Columbia's U.S. District Court. In the agreement, Flynn pleaded guilty to "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador. In the Statement of the Offense to which Flynn agreed, he said he falsely denied that on December 29, 2016 he asked Russia's ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak "to refrain from escalating ... in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day." Flynn's guilty plea acknowledged that he was cooperating with the Mueller investigation, and it was accepted by the court.

raumdeuter:


There won't be a common enemy like Trump that turned off many Republicans, united the far left and moderate left

Actually there are Rubio,Mcconell,Cruz,Cotton etc.
What if Trump and his croonies stick around.
There are republicans like Gingrich and Cotton that are like Trump and far right do you think they will go to their hideouts Trump has emboldened them.
Trump may go but he has spread his virus among many of them.
I used to think like you too growing up I supported GOP policies apart from guns and later on had an ideological shift and became liberal and support the democrats but that said I still support sane/healthy politics.
America is so polarised the politics especially the GOP is now toxic.Also I thought Trump would lose in a wide margin and the American people will overwhelmingly reject Trumpism but over 70 million people believe in Trumpism you will agree with me that this is very bad and will not be eradicated now.Trumpism is not dead it lives on after Trump and misinformation/conspiracy theories will keep spreading this virus and the GOP will become their tent.
Some republicans need Trump's base and will not change overnight because he lost have you not seen the recent tweets of Marco Rubio because of 2024 he wants to be a populist there are many more GOP leaders like him they will not rebuke Trump's base or stop misinforming them they will continue because they want power and want to win elections.
David Frum once said that if conservatives don't win in democracy they will reject democracy and this is happening already because they have started delegitimising the elections,the executive,legislature and judiciary

raumdeuter:


So you think the GOP is dead? If they are bond together under a less divisive character.

We will all be alive in 2022

No, I don't thing the GOP is dead.

I just think if Trump doesn't end up in jail or disappear from American political space, he will so mess up the party to the extent that the founders of GOP will not recognize it again. Except the likes of Bush and Romney give it a hard fight...but presently, the numbers favor Trump. And he might still be calling shots for a long time.

raumdeuter:


Do you see the far right voting Democrats like some of the far left voted Trump in protest?

I don't know of any far left that voted Trump in 2020 maybe in 2016 against Hillary as protest votes but it was of no importance some will rather stay at home than vote GOP.

budaatum:

Funny. I like Bubu more than the opposition but hate trump for his deplorable behaviour. If bubu behaved like trump, Nigeria right and left would be at war and the center would be calling for his head.

Exactly ill take bubu over atiku, but come 2023 if its atiku and el rufai or tinubu

Definitely ill take atiku, why wouldnt i

But the fearful thing is

Atiku - is a con businessman, that wants to sell nnpc to his family and friends, the same way they did nitel and nepa. And both disappeared.

El rufai - is a jihadist, with no reasoning, more like a dictator

Tinubu - he would work oooo, he would do things, but if tinubu becomes president, forget Nigeria as it is. He would turn it to his personal country, the same way he turned lagos to his property and he would loot the whole cbn. After his 8 years, only APC members would become president for the forseeable future. But he would work

So definetly ill take atiku, ill cover my nose and vote for him.

ObaIgwe1:


No, I don't thing the GOP is dead.

I just think if Trump doesn't end up in jail or disappear from American political space, he will so mess up the party to the extent that the founders of GOP will not recognize it again. Except the likes of Bush and Romney give it a hard fight...but presently, the numbers favor Trump. And he might still be calling shots for a long time.

Exactly why I think they are doomed

LordReed:


On December 1, 2017, Flynn and special counsel Robert Mueller agreed to a plea bargain in the District of Columbia's U.S. District Court. In the agreement, Flynn pleaded guilty to "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador. In the Statement of the Offense to which Flynn agreed, he said he falsely denied that on December 29, 2016 he asked Russia's ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak "to refrain from escalating ... in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day." Flynn's guilty plea acknowledged that he was cooperating with the Mueller investigation, and it was accepted by the court.

Stop reasoning with that guy abeg, i have posted the full statement of flynns testimony here, dude said he is still innocent and they set him up

Let him be, they are some people you can never convince. They are some people that believe the holocaust didnt happen

So let him be, flynn is very innocent.

LordReed:


On December 1, 2017, Flynn and special counsel Robert Mueller agreed to a plea bargain in the District of Columbia's U.S. District Court. In the agreement, Flynn pleaded guilty to "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador. In the Statement of the Offense to which Flynn agreed, he said he falsely denied that on December 29, 2016 he asked Russia's ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak "to refrain from escalating ... in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day." Flynn's guilty plea acknowledged that he was cooperating with the Mueller investigation, and it was accepted by the court.

Why the ..... please complete the statement. And let's see what crime General Flynn actually committed. Dim wit demon Rats are so full of crap, they think with their anus.

AmazonTopaz:
Actually there are Rubio,Mcconell,Cruz,Cotton etc.
What if Trump and his croonies stick around.
There are republicans like Gingrich and Cotton that are like Trump and far right do you think they will go to their hideouts Trump has emboldened them.
Trump may go but he has spread his virus among many of them.
I used to think like you too growing up I supported GOP policies apart from guns and later on had an ideological shift and became liberal and support the democrats but that said I still support sane/healthy politics.
America is so polarised the politics especially the GOP is now toxic.Also I thought Trump would lose in a wide margin and the American people will overwhelmingly reject Trumpism but over 70 million people believe in Trumpism you will agree with me that this is very bad and will not be eradicated now.Trumpism is not dead it lives on after Trump and misinformation/conspiracy theories will keep spreading this virus and the GOP will become their tent.
Some republicans need Trump's base and will not change overnight because he lost have you not seen the recent tweets of Marco Rubio because of 2024 he wants to be a populist there are many more GOP leaders like him they will not rebuke Trump's base or stop misinforming them they will continue because they want power and want to win elections.
David Frum once said that if conservatives don't win in democracy they will reject democracy and this is happening already because they have started delegitimising the elections,the executive,legislature and judiciary

Cruz and Rubio were once anti Trump so why wont they go back

Rubio was one of those who advocated for Biden to get security briefing when Trump was blocking it

ObaIgwe1:


No, I don't thing the GOP is dead.

I just think if Trump doesn't end up in jail or disappear from American political space, he will so mess up the party to the extent that the founders of GOP will not recognize it again. Except the likes of Bush and Romney give it a hard fight...but presently, the numbers favor Trump. And he might still be calling shots for a long time.

Its a binary choice, will Trump supporters rather vote for Democrats like some Sanders supporters did in 2016?

AmazonTopaz:

I don't know of any far left that voted Trump in 2020 maybe in 2016 against Hillary as protest votes but it was of no importance some will rather stay at home than vote GOP.

They voting against Hillary and staying home was why we had Trump

The Republicans will fight and still coalesce around their candidates in 2022

Timiofak:


Exactly ill take bubu over atiku, but come 2023 if its atiku and el rufai or tinubu

Definitely ill take atiku, why wouldnt i

But the fearful thing is

Atiku - is a con businessman, that wants to sell nnpc to his family and friends, the same way they did nitel and nepa. And both disappeared.

El rufai - is a jihadist, with no reasoning, more like a dictator

Tinubu - he would work oooo, he would do things, but if tinubu becomes president, forget Nigeria as it is. He would turn it to his personal country, the same way he turned lagos to his property and loot the whole cbn. After his 8 years, only apc members fwould become president for the forseeable future. But he would work

So definetly ill take atiku, ill cover my nose and vote for him.

I agree with your views on all of them.

Even though I dont want any of them, but if I must pick, I will not pick Atiku over Tinubu, They are both legendary thieves, but Tinubu is better because he will at least work for many while Atiku will only benefit few.

But I honestly wish and pray that Nigeria will not be limited to these same set of people in 2023... I pray there will be a real change.

happney65:


They are the biggest hypocrites ever.You hate Buhari,but you love Trump..what is the difference in both of them?But when you tell them,they get angry..stupid people

If it wasn't for the strong institutions ... mehn.

raumdeuter:


Its a binary choice, will Trump supporters rather vote for Democrats like some Sanders supporters did in 2016?

While it is not likely for Trump supporters to vote for Democrats; but in the event Trump supporters only allow "Trumpians" candidates to emerge for GOP, the moderate-right might continue to rebel, either they continue to vote for Democrats or just abstain.

And on the other hand, if the moderate-right wins back the core of the party, many Trumpians might loose interest in politics and go back to their caves where they were hiding before Trump pushed them out.

So the road is not that clear for GOP's future.

LordReed:


On December 1, 2017, Flynn and special counsel Robert Mueller agreed to a plea bargain in the District of Columbia's U.S. District Court. In the agreement, Flynn pleaded guilty to "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador. In the Statement of the Offense to which Flynn agreed, he said he falsely denied that on December 29, 2016 he asked Russia's ambassador to the United States Sergey Kislyak "to refrain from escalating ... in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day." Flynn's guilty plea acknowledged that he was cooperating with the Mueller investigation, and it was accepted by the court.

That is a crime? In as much has you added seasoning to your wording.

But what part of he was setup do you not understand?

Flynn pleaded guilty n that was mainly cause of his son, later he withdrew his guilty plea.

Plea came n later it was discovered he was setup... Do you know how time-line works?

A guilty plea is a deal. If you know you have been setup and it's your words vs the corrupt fbi the least you can do is take a deal and serve less time. But since he can prove they set him up thanks to Sidney powel he withdrew the guilty plea.

He was setup... They got caught, he Is a free man and if you don't like it no one cares

ObaIgwe1:


I agree with your views on all of them.

Even though I dont want any of them, but if I must pick, I will not pick Atiku over Tinubu, They are both legendary thieves, but Tinubu is better because he will at least work for many while Atiku will only benefit few.

But I honestly wish and pray that Nigeria will not be limited to these same set of people in 2023... I pray there will be a real change.

Exactly we pray and pray

ono:


Why the ..... please complete the statement. And let's see what crime General Flynn actually committed. Dim wit demon Rats are so full of crap, they think with their anus.

You are so stupid even a zombie will refuse to eat your brains.

Dummy why did he get a pardon if there was no crime? You are a fuckìng nincompoop.

basilico:


Some three states are holding public hearings.
Just wait.

You mean Republican gatherings?

Take your evidence to court, you no gree