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Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Nobody: 2:10pm On Nov 29, 2020
Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - until now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A7pFcnHVoo

Please read the full transcript below if you are unable to watch the video.

This is a message from a very knowledgeable Jewish Rabbi, his message makes a lot of sense compared to the children's story of Adam and Eve the Christian Bible have told us.

Here is the full transcript of the video:
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it's an amazing amazing thing that we
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are doing this tonight over the internet
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because if you remember not so long ago
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people consider the internet the
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ultimate evil the enemy that's going to
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destroy life is going to ruin our
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children is going to break up marriages
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well it did do that but we now see the
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positive side the amount of Torah
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learning that's going on today online
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like like we're doing tonight it's
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unbelievable
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anybody who knows how to read Hebrew is
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online teaching a class some people
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don't know how to read Hebrew are
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teaching classes so it's it just shows
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how if you look a little deeper you get
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past the ugliness and you find the
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godliness which leads us directly into
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the story of Adam and Eve because on the
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surface the story of Adam and Eve is a
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terrible story full of questions very
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quickly I'll give you the whole list God
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creates Adam and Eve puts them in the
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Garden of Eden and he says to them or to
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him of all the fruits of the trees of
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all the trees in the garden you may eat
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except for the tree of knowledge good
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and evil you may not eat from it for the
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day you eat from it you will die an hour
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later they Adam ate from the tree an
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hour after being told not to that was a
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busy Friday that that Friday in the
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ninth hour
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they were told not to eat in the tenth
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hour on the day they ate now God comes
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to heaven and says you ate from the tree
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I told you not to eat from he says it's
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her fault she made me do it God says to
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hover what did you do
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father says the snake God says because
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you did this
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you're going to suffer pain and
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childbirth by the sweat of your brow
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you're gonna make a living and eat bread
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and so on okay here the questions
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question number one don't eat from this
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tree for the day you eat from it you'll
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die
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the death mean anything to Adam and Eve
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they were 9 hours old could they already
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have an a survival instinct were they
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afraid of death more than that that they
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have any idea what death meant nothing
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had ever died question number two what
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kind of a mixed message is this don't
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eat from the tree the day you eat from
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it you'll die do i or don't I
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there's a day I will eat from it God
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didn't say if you eat from it he said
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the day you eat from it you'll die after
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they eat from it which is absolutely
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shocking and surprising how could Adam
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do that if God spoke to you face to face
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up close and personal and told you not
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to do something would you not at least
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wait till after the weekend an hour
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later this is not believable
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particularly since Adam did not have I
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ate Sahara
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he didn't have an evil inclination until
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after he ate from the tree
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so all the commentaries that say see
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that's what the eights are heard those
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to you yeah it would do that to me
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but Adam didn't have a Yeats her and
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also how can God be so ineffective
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he made no impression that Adam could
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ignore him an hour later it's not like
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it's not like Adam could be confused as
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to who God was talking to imagine hug
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them saying talking to me yeah you're
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the only one so how was how was that
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even possible but then God comes and
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says you ate from the tree I told you
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not to eat from he blames her
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this is not believable corruption so
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quickly so early doesn't make sense then
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God says because you did this you're
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gonna suffer that's really not fair you
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cannot add more punishment after the
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fact there was no warning of suffering
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the deal was you eat from it you die
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now God says I and I'm just gonna die
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before you die
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until you die you're gonna suffer not
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right and the main question is why tell
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the story
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what are you telling me you're telling
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me that a person who had no Yates of her
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know bad friends didn't grow up in a bad
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neighborhood wasn't traumatized during
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toilet training by his mother and was
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given one commandment he lasted an hour
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so I have I ate Sahara
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I have bad friends I grew up in a bad
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neighborhood I was traumatized during
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during polar training and I have 612
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Commandments it's like you know good
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luck you haven't got a chance it's a
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terrible story and to start the Torah
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with that story why hide it someplace
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and in the back ok now look at what
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happens when we look with Pacific eyes
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with positive eyes same story no no no
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details left out here's what happened
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Adam and Eve are two souls in heaven and
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they are told that they're going to go
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down to the lowest world to fix it
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they're not thrilled that the idea but
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if that's what God wants
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that's what happens so now they open
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their eyes they're in the Garden of Eden
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and God says of all the trees you may
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eat but the Tree of Knowledge you may
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not eat so now imagine Adam and Eve are
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sitting there on a log and they're
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having this conversation they're a
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little bit confused because all the
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trees are kosher they don't need fixing
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there's one tree that's not kosher that
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needs to be fixed and God says don't eat
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from it so they were wondering what
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happened to our job where is our mission
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we're supposed to fix the world fix what
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Claud done particularly was puzzled
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Chava said God is giving us a choice eat
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from the tree and live eat don't eat
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from the tree and live or eat from the
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tree and die two options as far as we're
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concerned either one is good so Adam
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said well then let's not eat from it and
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be righteous prophet said ready for this
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father said God wants us to eat from it
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Adam said how do you know that
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and hava said you know men never listen
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he said what what didn't they listen
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what didn't I hear Chava said our
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mission is to fix the lowest world we're
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not in the lowest world when God said
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eat from the tree and buy he's telling
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us there's a lower world a world of
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mortality we're living in a world of
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immortality here we have no job our job
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is waiting for us
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in the lowest world so he wants us to
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eat from the tree and go down to the
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lowest world and there we have our
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mission waiting for us madam said you
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know you're pretty smart makes a lot of
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sense so he ate so why did he eat from
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the tree not because he was tempted not
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because he had an evil inclination that
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because he was fighting God or rebelling
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he was doing what God wants in other
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words his soul had come down to the
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Garden of Eden but not to where it
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needed to be so when Adam said why would
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God put us here if he wants us there
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hava said because God always takes us to
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the threshold to the border
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the final step he wants us to volunteer
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and wants us to choose it willingly
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so now God comes and says you ate from
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the tree I told you not to eat from we
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obviously immediately assume that God is
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angry isn't God always angry God is
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marveling
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how did you know he's asking of them how
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did you know that that's the right thing
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to do and Adan being a pure saintly
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untainted soul said I didn't know she
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knew didn't you say it's not good for a
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man to be alone
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so now God asks hover how did you know
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she says the snake described what the
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world would be like if we ate from the
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tree and it sounded like that's what we
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needed to be
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God says great now let me tell you what
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it's like in that world that you
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volunteered to fix there's pain there's
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the sweat of your brow it's not like the
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Garden of Eden where you have everything
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prepared for you it's a rough world
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thank you for volunteering to fix it so
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now it's a completely different story
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first of all when you stop blaming hava
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for everything bad she's not the villain
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she's the hero secondly it's the perfect
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story to start the Torah with you're
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gonna start the Torah by saying here are
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the mitzvahs through which you can fix
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the lowest world and elevate it to the
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highest level but before I tell you that
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I gotta tell you how you ended up in the
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lowest world your grandmother she had
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the wisdom and the courage to volunteer
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for this job so go for it fix the world
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she knew it would take five thousand
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seven hundred and eighty years but you
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know what's five thousand years before
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you know it that's over one more thing
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what Putterman hava were really
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discussing is what's gonna be with the
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children they weren't worried about
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themselves in the Garden of Eden out of
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the Garden of Eden that made no
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difference to them lived I made no
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difference but they're gonna have
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children what's gonna be with the
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children here were the options don't eat
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from the tree your children will be in
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the Garden of Eden forever they will be
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sad thinking it'll be perfect Saints war
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eat from the tree go down to the lowest
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world there you'll have your mission but
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your children probably will not whoa
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beats a deacon they're gonna have to do
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children at the end of these so other
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said let's not eat from the tree and our
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children will all be Saints since a
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deacon what could be better
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Havas said the bal chuhwa is greater
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than the salad I want my children to be
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ballet children and when she convinced
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him that about chuva is higher than its
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added had him agreed to eat now when God
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comes to hug them and says you ate from
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the tree I told you not to eat from how
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did you know how did you know that about
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truth is greater than its attic it's
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written in the Gemara but the Gemara
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hadn't been written yet
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and how Dom said she knew why did she
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know cause when it comes to children you
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trust the mother the issue now was the
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children what's best for the children
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you always trust the mother and here's
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the proof that all of this is correct
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the next verse in the Turin right after
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describing the lowest world with all of
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its paintings and the sweat of the brow
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and all the rest of this cut them names
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his wife heaven because she is the
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mother of all life it's not amazing how
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did we miss it all these years she just
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brought death into the world according
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to the traditional understanding she's
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the mother of all death he goes and
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names her life
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so obviously we're missing the main part
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of the story what she did is she brought
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life to the world not death what does
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life mean the ability to fulfill your
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purpose for which you exist she's the
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mother of all life
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tom was proud of her he was thrilled
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that she had guided him in the right
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direction and here we are now fulfilling
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grandma Havas vision you see how a
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little Priscilla's can change a very
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negative sounding story into the story
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of everything it's what we're all about
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so when you start the tour you sit down
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with your child in you say the first
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thing you need to know is grandma was
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brilliant that's the story so why were
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they punished while they weren't
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punished
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why was the snake punished the snake was
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not punished outside of the Garden of
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Eden the snakes don't have legs just
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like outside of the Garden of Eden
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you can't give birth in an hour takes
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nine months there are different
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conditions for in the garden or outside
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of the garden so why is it called that
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they taught us why is it called the sin
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that doesn't mean sin that means a step
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down it was a giant step down but there
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was nothing sinful nothing malicious
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nothing unholy let's see
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question God said don't eat from the
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tree but he really wanted them to eat
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from the tree isn't that a little
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dishonest I understand he wanted to give
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them the option but he was saying I
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don't want you to eat from the tree when
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he really did want them to eat from the
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tree so even if it was a setup
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it can't be a dishonest one so when God
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said don't eat he must have meant it but
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then he really wanted them T so what's
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going on both things are true and this
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is also very important God doesn't want
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us to eat from the tree and he doesn't
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want us to die and he doesn't want the
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soul to leave heaven and go down to
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earth and he doesn't want to create a
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Yates Ahern and he doesn't want to
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create exile and he doesn't want to
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create sin he doesn't want but for this
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relationship of ours to be complete
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infinite and forever some things are
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necessary that are not very appealing so
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God says I don't want you to eat from
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the tree but I hope you do because it's
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going to happen I don't want to send you
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away from heaven down to earth rather
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have you closed but it's got to happen
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so God himself is doing things that he
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does not like in order for the purpose
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of creation to be fulfilled and so God
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has the right to ask us to do things
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we're not comfortable with
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for the sake of the purpose for the sake
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of elevating the world to a higher than
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heaven you got to do some things you
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don't like so God has invested a lot has
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sacrificed so to speak in order for this
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to happen the Gemara says God regrets
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creating the hut the 8th Sahara every
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day so why doesn't he stop one not until
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the project is over so the purpose
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sometimes is more important than your
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will
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now it makes sense that sometimes we do
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mitzvahs we don't don't want we don't
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want to do it something in us resists
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goes against our will but we do it
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anyway because in order to gain in order
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to rise in order to achieve something
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infinite you got to get past will past
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will is purpose and then the final
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question can everybody do this God says
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don't do the sin but we can figure out
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that maybe he really wants us to know we
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can't do that cuz we have a Yeats or her
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only somebody as innocent as Adam and
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Eve I can trust their insight and know
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what God means and what God wants we
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can't do that because when we know what
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we want and that comes first in our
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instincts so we have to trust what God
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told us not our own sense her own
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impulses and so on anyway it's a
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pleasure sharing some Torah thoughts
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it's a very good example for how things
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may appear negative but they really are
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positive very positive so not only is
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there a silver lining to what we're
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going through it's pure gold the world
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is going to be a lot better than the
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world we are familiar with so we're not
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going back to business as usual we're
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going up to a much finer much holier
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much more mature world we're growing up
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so
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make the world a little better in tiny
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little ways because that's all that's
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needed now tiny little improvements to
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the world that we make it perfect so
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that mushy F can come yeah we can start
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a whole new positive pure way of living
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without pain without death without
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sorrow without regrets the world as it's
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meant to be as how I envisioned it
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you
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Nobody: 5:00pm On Nov 29, 2020
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Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Kobojunkiee: 5:25pm On Nov 29, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - until now
Please read the full transcript below if you are unable to watch the video.

This is a message from a very knowledgeable Jewish Rabbi, his message makes a lot of sense compared to the children's story of Adam and Eve the Christian Bible have told us.
That is a load of bullocks!

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Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Goshen360(m): 6:05pm On Nov 29, 2020
That man was speaking lots of rubbish that doesn't answer to the rest of the bible....study the book of romans, you will understand Genesis. Btw, that man in the video wasn't teaching expository, he was only conjuring things together unfortunately.

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Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by MuttleyLaff: 7:47pm On Nov 29, 2020
Kobojunkiee:
That is a load of bullocks!

Goshen360:
That man was speaking lots of rubbish that doesn't answer to the rest of the bible....study the book of romans, you will understand Genesis. Btw, that man in the video wasn't teaching expository, he was only conjuring things together unfortunately.
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Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Nobody: 9:33pm On Nov 29, 2020
The Old Testerment came from the Jews so who is saying nonsence. You guys above have read to much children's story in the Christian Bible.
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Goshen360(m): 10:53pm On Nov 29, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
The Old Testerment came from the Jews so who is saying nonsence. You guys above have read to much children's story in the Christian Bible.

So just because the OT came from the jews we should accept rubbish abi? This isn't about reading children's story Bible or not....its about questioning what he said in the video as against what the Apostles taught in scripture. Even you that believe that crab the man was saying you can't answer scriptures pulled out to question what he said in the video so you might want to ask him yourself or something.
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Nobody: 11:13pm On Nov 29, 2020
Goshen360:

So just because the OT came from the jews we should accept rubbish abi? This isn't about reading children's story Bible or not....its about questioning what he said in the video as against what the Apostles taught in scripture. Even you that believe that crab the man was saying you can't answer scriptures pulled out to question what he said in the video so you might want to ask him yourself or something.

This is like a european man saying a traditional Ifa teacher does not know what he is saying about Ifa. The Christian Bible was written in Europe and the Biblical events took place in Israel so ask yourself who have the true account of the Old Testament? Is it the Jews who are the natives of Israel or the Romans who came from europe and too away the story and rewrote them?
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Goshen360(m): 11:19pm On Nov 29, 2020
ThePlainTruth:


This is like a european man saying a traditional Ifa teacher does not know what he is saying about Ifa. The Christian Bible was written in Europe and the Biblical events took place in Israel so ask yourself whether it is the Jews who are the natives of Israel or the Romans who have the true account of the Old Testament?

Again, the same native of Israel will have to answer to the face of the rest scriptures that opened up what happened in Genesis. If he can't explain it IN THE LIGHT OF OTHER SCRIPTURES, we trash him out because it could as well be a case of a Jewish with zeal but without knowledge.

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Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Nobody: 11:31pm On Nov 29, 2020
Goshen360:

Again, the same native of Israel will have to answer to the face of the rest scriptures that opened up what happened in Genesis. If he can't explain it IN THE LIGHT OF OTHER SCRIPTURES, we trash him out because it could as well be a case of a Jewish with zeal but without knowledge.

If you are an Ifa Priest or Traditional Ifa teacher will you allow someone from europe write their own story on Ifa and then come back and teach it to you. This is the reason the Jews do not accept the Christian Bible and will only accept their own Jewish Books and Knowledge passed down from thousands of generations.
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Goshen360(m): 11:46pm On Nov 29, 2020
ThePlainTruth:


If you are an Ifa Priest or Traditional Ifa teacher will you allow someone from europe write their own story on Ifa and then come back and teach it to you. This is the reason the Jews do not accept the Christian Bible and will only accept their own Jewish Books and Knowledge passed down from thousands of generations.

Then we are not on same page if this ifa priest is not using the same book that was also passed down to me - the Bible. BUT....the point is, LET YOUR IFA PRIEST ANSWER TO THE REST OF THE ORACLES GIVEN IN THE SAME BIBLE....but if your ifa PRIEST is using extra biblical books....then we're not on same page....if we're both talking on SAME bible....let me ask u or your ifa PRIEST same question from same Bible and see how you or your ifa PRIEST answer to it in the face of other teaching that open up the genesis account.

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Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Kobojunkie: 12:03am On Nov 30, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
The Old Testerment came from the Jews so who is saying nonsence. You guys above have read to much children's story in the Christian Bible.
Wait a second! So this man is knowledgeable and makes sense in this case simply because he is a jew?

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Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Nobody: 9:10am On Nov 30, 2020
Are you aware that the Old Testament of the European Bible was written from the Jewish religion Judaism? And check again l said the man is a Jewish Rabbi. The truth is that the man makes a lot of sense regarding Adam and Eve.
Kobojunkie:
Wait a second! So this man is knowledgeable and makes sense in this case simply because he is a jew?
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by jimiobanta(m): 9:40am On Nov 30, 2020
Right from the time of Israel in Egypt, the children of Israel have indulged in idolatry and occultism. They carried their idolatry and its traditions with them to the promised land.
For their idolatry, they were judged by God to allow what befell the original inhabitants of the promised land, to befall them also.(Their enemies were given power to oppress and destroy them.

Sadly the occultism of Israel known as kaballa/Caballa had never died out. Just as the priests of old led Israel into idolatry and traditions of men that Jesus Christ condemned, the rabbis whose majority are anti-christ are leading Israel in idolatry and Satanism. They have even phased out the Torah and teach from there own books.
like Jesus Christ condemned them and called them whitewashed sepulchres, today they appear outwardly as holy men but are dastardly evil personality that engages in human sacrifices.
They make use of unholy books of witchcraft they named after biblical characters e.g. 6th and 7th books of Moses, The Seal of Solomon and others. Those books and the others are called the books of advance Satanism, The Gremories.

Discount what the Advanced Satanic Agent is saying.

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Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Nobody: 11:58am On Nov 30, 2020
You are the one teaching occultism here. Even a sensible kid will ask questions when he or she hears or reads the story of Adam and Eve. Now if an adult is not allowed to ask questions about Adam and Eve and is just expected to follow what he or she is told then you are the one teaching occultism here.

The Bible we have today is man's handwriting no God's so it is sensible to ask questions about what man has witten in the Bible.
If Adam and Eve can disobey God in the garden of Eden, how much more men on this sinful world that wrote the Bible who were born of a woman.

jimiobanta:
Right from the time of Israel in Egypt, the children of Israel have indulged in idolatry and occultism. They carried their idolatry and its traditions with them to the promised land.
For their idolatry, they were judged by God to allow what befell the original inhabitants of the promised land, to befall them also.(Their enemies were given power to oppress and destroy them.

Sadly the occultism of Israel known as kaballa/Caballa had never died out. Just as the priests of old led Israel into idolatry and traditions of men that Jesus Christ condemned, the rabbis whose majority are anti-christ are leading Israel in idolatry and Satanism. They have even phased out the Torah and teach from there own books.
like Jesus Christ condemned them and called them whitewashed sepulchres, today they appear outwardly as holy men but are dastardly evil personality that engages in human sacrifices.
They make use of unholy books of witchcraft they named after biblical characters e.g. 6th and 7th books of Moses, The Seal of Solomon and others. Those books and the others are called the books of advance Satanism, The Gremories.

Discount what the Advanced Satanic Agent is saying.

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Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by jimiobanta(m): 2:57pm On Nov 30, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
You are the one teaching occultism here. Even a sensible kid will ask questions when he or she hears or reads the story of Adam and Eve. Now if an adult is not allowed to ask questions about Adam and Eve and is just expected to follow what he or she is told then you are the one teaching occultism here.

The Bible we have today is man's handwriting no God's so it is sensible to ask questions about what man has witten in the Bible.
If Adam and Eve can disobey God in the garden of Eden, how much more men on this sinful world that wrote the Bible who were born of a woman.


I didn't say you may not ask questions, I merely educated you on the pedigree of Jewish rabbis and why a Christian should not take them seriously.
If you want the truth, you may take what I wrote and research it further.
If you like you may hold on to the heretic teaching of a direct descendant of those who rejected and crucified Jesus.
There are many eminent Jewish pastors today just as there were disciples to Christ when rabbis and priests were asking for His crusification
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Kobojunkiee: 2:59pm On Nov 30, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
Are you aware that the Old Testament of the European Bible was written from the Jewish religion Judaism? And check again l said the man is a Jewish Rabbi. The truth is that the man makes a lot of sense regarding Ada and Eve.
Kobojunkie:
Wait a second! So this man is knowledgeable and makes sense in this case simply because he is a jew?
undecided
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by jimiobanta(m): 3:05pm On Nov 30, 2020
If you have genuine questions, please itemize them and list them, I'll endeavour to answer them as quick as possible. Thanks
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Nobody: 8:21pm On Nov 30, 2020
If Adam and Eve can disobey God in the garden of Eden, how much more men in this sinful world that wrote the Bible who were born of a woman how can you trust everything they have written. Sensible people should be able to question what they read in the Bible and to find sensible answers, without some people who have been conditioned not to ask questions to come and deceive them not to ask questions and find sensible answers to what they have read or heard from the Bible.
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Kobojunkiee: 9:15pm On Nov 30, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
If Adam and Eve can disobey God in the garden of Eden, how much more men in this sinful world that wrote the Bible who were born of a woman how can you trust everything they have written. Sensible people should be able to question what they read in the Bible and to find sensible answers, without some people who have been conditioned not to ask questions to come and deceive them not to ask questions and find sensible answers to what they have read or heard from the Bible. 
But sensible people do indeed ask questions and know that not just any answer will do, and this is one of those that does not even come close to being sensible as far as answers go.
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by FatherOfJesus: 9:34pm On Nov 30, 2020
Nothing in the Bible makes sense
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by FatherOfJesus: 9:35pm On Nov 30, 2020
jimiobanta:
If you have genuine questions, please itemize them and list them, I'll endeavour to answer them as quick as possible. Thanks
Can you take my questions as well?
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Anas09: 10:41pm On Nov 30, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
The Old Testerment came from the Jews so who is saying nonsence. You guys above have read to much children's story in the Christian Bible.
This came from you? Are you doubting the Bible now? Did you call the Bible children's story? Oh God!!!!! You were one of the guys I lokked up to o. Chai. What could ve happened?
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Anas09: 10:42pm On Nov 30, 2020
ThePlainTruth:


This is like a european man saying a traditional Ifa teacher does not know what he is saying about Ifa. The Christian Bible was written in Europe and the Biblical events took place in Israel so ask yourself who have the true account of the Old Testament? Is it the Jews who are the natives of Israel or the Romans who came from europe and too away the story and rewrote them?
WtH? shocked
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Nobody: 10:54pm On Nov 30, 2020
Why will l ask questions from you when you are not the one that wrote the Bible.

What l meant is that sensible people do question what they read in the Bible and they do their own research to come up with sensible answers.

The Plain Truth is that is it betrer for you to learn from my post than for you beleiving you know all when your mind has been conditioned to beleive some of the children's stories you have been reading in the European Bible.


jimiobanta:


I didn't say you may not ask questions, I merely educated you on the pedigree of Jewish rabbis and why a Christian should not take them seriously.
If you want the truth, you may take what I wrote and research it further.
If you like you may hold on to the heretic teaching of a direct descendant of those who rejected and crucified Jesus.
There are many eminent Jewish pastors today just as there were disciples to Christ when rabbis and priests were asking for His crusification
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by jimiobanta(m): 1:11pm On Dec 01, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
Why will l ask questions from you when you are not the one that wrote the Bible.

What l meant is that sensible people do question what they read in the Bible and they do their own research to come up with sensible answers.

The Plain Truth is that is it betrer for you to learn from my post than for you beleiving you know all when your mind has been conditioned to beleive some of the children's stories you have been reading in the European Bible.



Go on the way you are. It is obvious you will soon join that demon controlled fellow calling himself "father of Jesus"

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Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Nobody: 10:22pm On Dec 03, 2020
You are the one that is demon controlled if not why do you want to be asked questions about the Bible when you were not there when the Bible was being written or when the events took place. Where you there when God told Adem and Eve not to eat from the tree of good and evil. You can now see how demons are controlling your mind.
jimiobanta:

[s]Go on the way you are. It is obvious you will soon join that demon controlled fellow calling himself "father of Jesus"[/s]
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:44am On Dec 04, 2020
Please instead of saying "this theory makes sense than that" why not present the group practically applying the theory of this so called Jewish rabbis? undecided

For your information all the books in the world that's centered on teaching people how life came about whether religious or nonreligious are like THEORIES, each book should come with its PRACTICAL APPLICATION so that all sane people can see the BENEFITS of each theory if there is any at all.

The Theory of Adam and Eve has produced one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, this group stands out with a difference, there is no weapon carrier among them so if everyone on this planet is a member that means billions of dollars spent on building destructive weapons annually will be diverted to some other things that will benefit mankind, they don't practice politics so if everyone on this planet is a member there will be no difference between all races we will all live peacefully as one family.

Please present the group that's practicing what your Jewish rabbi teaches so that we can all see the outcome of his own theory, for now the Adam and Eve theory has produced JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the one and only peace loving group on planet earth today! Isaiah 2:2-4 smiley
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by jimiobanta(m): 10:16am On Dec 04, 2020
ThePlainTruth:
You are the one that is demon controlled if not why do you want to be asked questions about the Bible when you were not there when the Bible was being written or when the events took place. Where you there when God told Adem and Eve not to eat from the tree of good and evil. You can now see how demons are controlling your mind.



1Ti 4:1-2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to deceitful spirits, and doctrines of demons;

 2  Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

2Ti 4:3-4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they draw to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

 4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto myths.



I do hope you can process the fact these Bible verses are describing people like you and your rabbi who lacking knowledge of the word and the presence of the writer of the Bible the Holy Spirit in their life and having unteachable hearts end up.
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by Nobody: 1:50pm On Dec 04, 2020
God did not write the Bible men wrote the Bible thousands of years ago when there were no internet and camera phones and you beleive all that they wrote, are you that darf? So if you are not a lier and a deceiver you won't be so rigid as to wanting everyone to beleive what you beleive from what you have read in the Bible just because it is based on religion.

God has given us the ability to reason and not just to beleive everything we read or are told because it's from a religion. Because your mind has been so conditioned to just beleive anything you read in the Bible is the reason you cannot distinguish between what makes sense and what doesn't from some of the children's stories you have been reading in the Bible.

jimiobanta:


1Ti 4:1-2
Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to deceitful spirits, and doctrines of demons;

 2  Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

2Ti 4:3-4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they draw to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

 4  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto myths.



I do hope you can process the fact these Bible verses are describing people like you and your rabbi who lacking knowledge of the word and the presence of the writer of the Bible the Holy Spirit in their life and having unteachable hearts end up.
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by orisa37: 2:50pm On Dec 04, 2020
The plain misconception.
Re: Adam & Eve: The Whole Story Doesn't Make Sense - Until Now by orisa37: 2:52pm On Dec 04, 2020
The plain misconception.


This Jewish Rabbi is a Rabbit.

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