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Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Glaswegian: 12:33pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Charleys: Lmao Stop taking panadol for another man’s headache pls. I know a medical condition when I see one and I know Jinn effect when I see one. Even Cambridge study recognizes Jinn activities as different from Schizophrenia https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-psychiatrist/article/jinn-and-mental-health-looking-at-jinn-possession-in-modern-psychiatric-practice/0012DFF288FA8958C7A52CAB2F29B679 And you are here forming exposed, dismissing it. You deserve pity. 1 Like |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Charleys: 1:24pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
drlateef: The minister of information who is a Muslim once said that Buhari's project are too big that's why we can't see them. |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Charleys: 1:28pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Glaswegian: This is just a journal my friend. It doesn't prove anything. |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by drlateef: 4:42pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Camelot65: You want to help your Christian brother in telling lies? Did you both not click to say you are Muslim before getting to this page? What do you call that in Christianity? Lying, isn’t it? Paul states that you must convert everyone by all means. It’s there i your bible. Paul created the scam called Christianity, isn’t it? Is he a noble person? Was he not a warrior against Jesus? |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Camelot65: 5:08pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
drlateef: Muhammad was the scammer who created a scam religion. The other guy advocatejare posted authentic hadiths but as a senior muhammad that you're, you said he's lying I can't wait to see your own set of hadiths I asked you questions, instead of answering, You resorted to lamentations and explanations I never asked you for, Now I ask again : Give me a verse from the Bible saying Paul encouraged Christians to lie to convert people to Christianity show me also where Paul claimed he created christianity, I assume you are intelligent enough to know what "Christianity" means i don't want long story Dr. ,just show me the verses |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by drlateef: 5:12pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Camelot65: Philippians 1:18, NIV: "But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to rejoice," Now that I have shown you that Christianity is preached on falsehood, are you not ashamed to be a Christian? |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by advocatejare(m): 5:32pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Camelot65:The quack doctor that call himself drlateef has been exposed, imagine him saying that those with tear in the aorta don't feel pain, he's forgotten that information is readily available on the internet. He even said Muhammad didnt die of poison when Muhammad himself claimed that poison was killing him. Imagine 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by drlateef: 5:56pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
advocatejare: Do you think I am a google doctor? Who learns medicine on google? If you feel any pain it’s already too late. And that’s when pressure on surrounding structures occurs due to severe haemorrhage. If you have an experienced doctor in your family let them talk to me. Otherwise you should do jamb and study medicine for 6 years before you talk to me. 1 Like |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Camelot65: 5:57pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
drlateef:Now I know Your head is not correct If English is so difficult for you, you should have just kept quiet instead of embarrassing yourself with the "DR" in your name.... let's go ,From that passage, Philippians 1: 17 The others do not proclaim Christ sincerely, but from a spirit of selfish ambition; they think that they will make more trouble for me while in prison 18. it does not matter! I'm happy about it -so long as Christ is preached in every way possible, whether from wrong or right motives. I'll continue to be happy I had to use a much simpler translation for you since you lack understanding Now, Paul was rounding up his comments on those who preach for selfish reasons with a very practical conclusion......Paul was happy to see Christ proclaimed regardless of the reason. In the end, his goal was to let everyone hear the good news and receive it Those who thought they were hurting Paul( E.g YOU) by repeating his preaching were actually giving him his very heart's desire.....Lol the bible is an arranged book with a flow unlike the Quran that has a verse unrelated to the other. Why should I be ashamed when Its you who committed a blunder of lack of understanding Lol LoL, So tell me where it says you should lie to convert people to Christianity |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Camelot65: 6:02pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
advocatejare:Lol.....What I don't understand with muslims is their ability to help Muhammad or Allah by claiming to know better than him Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison." Sahih Bukhari 5:59:713 BTW have you forgotten that lying and decit is permitted in their religion Even muhammed Encouraged one of his men to lie in order to kill kab? 1 Like |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by advocatejare(m): 6:05pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
drlateef:Only empty barrel makes the loudest noise, you're a fake doctor, real doctors don't carry it on their heads. I have friends who are cardiologists and one of them has shown me signs of what he called aortic dissection and severe chest pain is one of them but the ignorant you is saying otherwise. If you're sure of yourself, share us the link to a medical article or textbooks that claim that pain is not part of aortic dissection. BTW your Prophet died from poison and he had his aorta cut and she shouted when the poison torn his aorta and Allah could not help him. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by advocatejare(m): 6:08pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Camelot65:Quack drlateef will tell you that Aisha was lying. He's saying Muhammad never felt his aorta cut. He's obviously one of those paramedics claiming to be doctors. Be proud of your profession fake drlateef because you can't be a doctor and be this ignorant |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Camelot65: 6:12pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
advocatejare:Even a medical student wouldn't make such blunder.... Lol, I'm waiting for him to coman show me he knows more than Aisha 1 Like |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by drlateef: 6:14pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
advocatejare: Ask your friend cardiologist if aortic dissection is different from from aortic rupture? Ask him when pain occurs in rupture. And you said Muhammad had his aorta cut off, does that sound like a aortic dissection to you? Ask your friend if you don’t know. Ignorance can only be cured by knowledge, not telling lies. Furthermore, someone who has aortic rupture with pain usually does not live to tell the story many years after. Show the Hadith to your friend and let him use his clinical knowledge to correlate with the story. I have never seen poison causing aortic rupture because rupture is usually caused by trauma or long-standing infection like syphilis or metabolic plaques on the arteries. Not poison. Go and do your research. |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by advocatejare(m): 6:16pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Camelot65:Yeah, muhammad was the master liar. When he was exposed for saying that women also have nocturnal emission like men and that if a woman have wetness, the child will look like her (I'm sure drlateef will also think women also have nocturnal emission because he's a quack doctor), instead of accepting that he was wrong, he started cursing the woman that exposed him. Sahih Bukhari 1:3:132 Narrated By Um Salama Um-Sulaim came to Allah's Apostle and said, "Verily, Allah is not shy of (telling you) the truth. Is it necessary for a woman to take a bath after she has a wet dream (nocturnal sexual discharge?) The Prophet replied, "Yes, if she notices a discharge." Um Salama, then covered her face and asked, "O Allah's Apostle! Does a woman get a discharge?" He replied, "Yes, let your right hand be in dust (An Arabic expression you say to a person when you contradict his statement meaning "you will not achieve goodness", and that is why the son resembles his mother." 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by drlateef: 6:19pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Camelot65: Lol! Everyone who reads your comments should be laughing in mockery of your level of reasoning. So you agree that Paul said the end justifies the means. Even if the means is dishonest. Yet you have arguments to support Paul in that. How ridiculous is that? |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by advocatejare(m): 6:25pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
drlateef:We've been talking about dissection not rupture. Don't change the topic And you said Muhammad had his aorta cut off, does that sound like a aortic dissection to you?Do people with aortic dissection have tearing sensation like Muhammad did or not? I have never seen poison causing aortic rupture because rupture is usually caused by trauma or long-standing infection like syphilis or metabolic plaques on the arteries. Not poison. Go and do your research. " Muhammad himself said he was dying from poison and that means you now agree that he was a liar who didn't know what he was saying. As for syphilis, it's possible because the hadith said Muhammad was insane for sometime and he was hallucinating, it might be a symptom of tertiary syphilis which is characterized by generalised paralysis of insane and aortic aneurysm which could have torn his aorta" 1 Like |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by advocatejare(m): 6:27pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Camelot65:You're right, he can't be doctor drlateef tell us about tertiary syphilis and how the sufferer can have insanity and aortic dissection like Muhammad. I've gotten a real doctor to deal with you |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Camelot65: 6:30pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
drlateef:Instead you'd laughed at for your lack of understanding clearly Paul was talking on those who try to hurt him by using his words not knowing they are indirectly preaching about christ-- MOTIVES ,MOTIVES, MOTIVES Even after clearly showing from that verse and my explanation the only thing you could come with was "the end justifies the means" It's obvious you didn't read the passage First you claimed he encouraged us to lie to convert people to Christianity, I exposed your ignorance, Instead of lying low, you jumped from that to another blunder of lack of understanding You should have enrolled to study B. Ed English Can you please show me where Paul encouraged Christians to lie to convert people to Christianity The question is still open |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Camelot65: 6:36pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
advocatejare:Lol , He did prove us right Fingers crossed.... |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by drlateef: 6:42pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Camelot65: I am not here to repeat myself. Read the verse yourself and tell me if he did not ask you to lie as the end justifies the means. |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Camelot65: 7:00pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
drlateef:If that verse to you shows Paul encouraged us to lie, then you need help...... if he had said "use whatever means whether good or bad" to preach the gospel, I'd have taken you serious but that verse was in continuation of his comments on those who proclaim Christ for selfish ambitions.......Whatever Motive(whether to preach Christ in truthfulness or to discredit him) is being used by anyone to proclaim the gospel , Christ is still preached.....I still quoted verse 17 to help you..... It's embarrassing that I have to explain that clear verse to you again with your level of knowledge . |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by drlateef: 7:04pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Camelot65: Now, let me come to kindergarten level for. What are the bad methods of converting people to Christianity? You answer that yourself. |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Camelot65: 7:10pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
drlateef:What does motive mean It clearly says whatever motives, that's how it was used in that verse.... Lol Now to help you, Read the verses 14,15,16,17, and 18...... I wouldn't spoon feed a DR Stop twisting things to achieve your aim..... No where did Paul encouraged Christians to lie to convert people to Christianity.... everything stems from your lack of understanding of the verse |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by drlateef: 7:34pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
Camelot65: You can continue to tell lies and refuse to learn and understand. No religious leader will say no matter the methods used he does not care. Yet you cannot understand what that means because it’s convenient for you to argue blindly. I will not reply you again. You just obey what Paul tells you. Your conscience will judge you. |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Camelot65: 8:15pm On Dec 05, 2020 |
drlateef:It's not my fault you don't understand what you quoted, You claimed Paul encouraged Christians to lie to convert people to Christianity, I asked you where ,you ended up bringing up a verse you know nothing about, even when you were told to read the preceding verses to understand what Paul was saying.....Lol My conscience wouldn't judge me ... Lol, at least Jesus met Paul and transformed him, He lived more better than Muhammad your prophet who lived on earth to fulfill his sexual desires, kill people lie and retain all the quraish pagan practices.... We're Christ's followers reason why we're called Christians, You can continue with your show of ignorance and show me where Paul said "whatever means use, whether good or bad"......it clearly says "whatever motives .....I'm ashamed of your open show of ignorance( I knew you were embarrassed but you couldn't just admit it ) and here you're proving me right about the verse Dr wrote "whatever method" and it wasn't written in the verse ,to think you're a doctor is an utter embarrassment continue with your delusions, Follower of Muhammad's teachings.Your own muhammed killed those who didn't agree with him.. |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Charleys: 8:06am On Dec 06, 2020 |
drlateef: Guy you dey fall hands, I swear. From Islamic hadith's that you deny. To Christian scripture that you didn't read, to medical reasons to everything. If I was you I will DM those guys to learn more. You truly messed up. And non of your Muslim friends are here to support you. They know Islam is filled with lies. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Charleys: 8:07am On Dec 06, 2020 |
By Camelot65: Maybe he needs to be spoon-fed. |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Charleys: 8:10am On Dec 06, 2020 |
Camelot65:I'm sure if he was close to you he'll kill you to prove Muhammed right |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by drlateef: 8:46am On Dec 06, 2020 |
Charleys: You are not the to decide for people reading. Those reading my comments are smarter than you and they know who has given correct answers. |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by Camelot65: 10:22am On Dec 06, 2020 |
Charleys:Lol, Forget about him....To think the verse he himself brought is clear.....He though the Bible is like the Quran that's haphazardly written..... he'd following the footsteps of the prophet by doing that |
Re: Can A Person Be Possessed By The Jinn When He Is Keeping Up With Adhkaar? by osuofia2(m): 9:49am On Dec 07, 2020 |
advocatejare:NICE ONE MAN, I APPRECIATE HOW YOU ARE SCHOOLING AND ENLIGHTENING THEM WITH POINTS. I PRAY AND HOPE THAT THEY WILL OPEN THEIR MINDS TO READ AND UNDERSTAND. SHALLOM SIR 1 Like |
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