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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 10:39am On Dec 11, 2020
Dapcity007:



Cause and effect are not considered in the feminist abortion notion

It all boils down to woman's choice

Abortion emphasize rights not responsibility

Health care is a right. Abortion is an aspect of health and must be considered a right. As with all health care issues responsibility falls on both the health care provider and recipient to obtain the best outcome. This idea that proponents of abortion want to shirk all responsibility is a straw man.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 10:48am On Dec 11, 2020
LordReed:


Health care is a right. Abortion is an aspect of health and must be considered a right. As with all health care issues responsibility falls on both the health care provider and recipient to obtain the best outcome. This idea that proponents of abortion want to shirk all responsibility is a straw man.


Abortion via irresponsibility should not be promoted under the guise of health care as they occur very oftenly

No reasonable human will want to abort for it's own sake

I have sex , I can now kill my infant if I please , I don't want any contraceptives, I have sex as I please now I kill my infant under the health care right
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 10:50am On Dec 11, 2020
Dapcity007:



Voters fraud proves strong cogent motive for change in election laws

The so called voter fraud that is now being considered undetectable? LoL. Since your cohorts cannot prove it to the satisfaction of the courts then you have institute any reforms for next time.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 10:52am On Dec 11, 2020
LordReed:


The so called voter fraud that is now being considered undetectable? LoL. Since your cohorts cannot prove it to the satisfaction of the courts then you have institute any reforms for next time.


By moot dismissal
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 10:53am On Dec 11, 2020
The buffoon will be in tears am sure..As in premium tears and will whyne and puff when he sees this.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 10:54am On Dec 11, 2020
Dapcity007:



Abortion via irresponsibility should not be promoted under the guise of health care as they occur very oftenly

No reasonable human will want to abort for it's own sake

I have sex , I can now kill my infant if I please , I don't want any contraceptives, I have sex as I please now I kill my infant under the health care right

Its people like you who preach abstinence only that have that burden. It is such fundamental misinformation that makes people continue to practice unsafe sex. Proponents of abortion are almost invariably also proponents of safe sex and personal responsibility. If safe sex is practiced the chances for unwanted pregnancy is greatly reduced.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 10:57am On Dec 11, 2020
LordReed:


Health care is a right. Abortion is an aspect of health and must be considered a right. As with all health care issues responsibility falls on both the health care provider and recipient to obtain the best outcome. This idea that proponents of abortion want to shirk all responsibility is a straw man.

Stop dragging with this guy, a lot of them can't see that making abortion illegal doesn't stop abortion. It only stops safe abortion

A woman determined to abort would go to any length to do it, might result to loss of life. In Nigeria abortion is illegal, but you would still hear a lady as aborted 7 times, so why is the purpose of it being illegal, when people can still do it under the table?

The best thing to do is promote sex education, and be pro contraceptives (that's if you are really anti-abortion), and make counsellors or sex therapists readily available, while making abortion totally legal

I promise you, the rate of abortion would reduce.

But any individual that thinks making it illegal would just stop people. Lmao.

The individual isn't smart enough.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 10:58am On Dec 11, 2020
LordReed:


Its people like you who preach abstinence only that have that burden. It is such fundamental misinformation that makes people continue to practice unsafe sex. Proponents of abortion are almost invariably also proponents of safe sex and personal responsibility. If safe sex is practiced the chances for unwanted pregnancy is greatly reduced.


OK now we reach a consensus

Abstinence is also an option to choose and the safest option
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 11:00am On Dec 11, 2020
LordReed:


Its people like you who preach abstinence only that have that burden. It is such fundamental misinformation that makes people continue to practice unsafe sex. Proponents of abortion are almost invariably also proponents of safe sex and personal responsibility. If safe sex is practiced the chances for unwanted pregnancy is greatly reduced.

Exactly the point, instead of them to promote sex education classes

And explain too people the dangers of unsafe sex, they think it's by making it illegal is the solution


There was a time alcohol was illegal in America because of various reasons, that didn't stop people from drinking, it just became expensive and was even abused and became dangerous.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:02am On Dec 11, 2020
Timiofak:


Stop dragging with this guy, a lot of them can't see that making abortion illegal doesn't stop abortion. It only stops safe abortion

A woman determined to abort would go to any length to do it, might result to loss of life. In Nigeria abortion is illegal, but you would still hear a lady as aborted 7 times, so why is the purpose of it being illegal, when people can still do it under the table?

The best thing to do is promote sex education, and be pro contraceptives (that's if you are really anti-abortion), and make counsellors or sex therapists readily available, while making abortion totally legal

I promise you, the rate of abortion would reduce.

But any individual that thinks making it illegal would just stop people. Lmao.

The individual isn't smart enough.


These pro choice logic doesn't stop abortion for it's own sake

Abortion due to foetal deformity is a moral dilemma
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:05am On Dec 11, 2020
Timiofak:


Exactly the point, instead of them to promote sex education classes

And explain too people the dangers of unsafe sex, they think it's by making it illegal is the solution


There was a time alcohol was illegal in America because of various reasons, that didn't stop people from drinking, it just became expensive and was even abused and became dangerous.

Contraceptives should be legalized not abortion for it sake

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:09am On Dec 11, 2020
LordReed:


The judiciary will not change what is considered legal votes after the fact. The challenge should have been brought before the election. The SCOTUS will not give you people the satisfaction you crave.

Similar to charging somebody before the murder actually occurs.You can charge for premeditated murder.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:10am On Dec 11, 2020
Dapcity007:



These pro choice logic doesn't stop abortion for it's own sake

Abortion due to foetal deformity is a moral dilemma

Abortion is a human right to the left.Why bother to prevent conception when you can get rid of the results
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 11:12am On Dec 11, 2020
basilico:


Similar to charging somebody before the murder actually occurs.You can charge for premeditated murder.

The changes to election procedure were done well in advance of the election, you effectively had a whole year to challenge those changes but you want to challenge them now that your guy lost. Texas also changed their procedures in a similar fashion, how come they are now taking up this silly crusade?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:13am On Dec 11, 2020
LordReed:


The changes to election procedure were done well in advance of the election, you effectively had a whole year to challenge those changes but you want to challenge them now that your guy lost. Texas also changed their procedures in a similar fashion, how come they are now taking up this silly crusade?


Voters fraud debunks its a crusade
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:15am On Dec 11, 2020
happney65:
The buffoon will be in tears am sure..As in premium tears and will whyne and puff when he sees this.

How nice. Newsweek magazine had madam president in 2016 ready to roll before Wolf Blitzer almost tearfully announced that the left had lost.The victory party was in a huge hall with a glass rooftop, signifying a woman breaking the glass ceiling.
Oh the liberal tear drops

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:15am On Dec 11, 2020
basilico:


Abortion is a human right to the left.Why bother to prevent conception when you can get rid of the results


Leftist situational ethics is very irrational most of the times

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 11:15am On Dec 11, 2020
basilico:


Abortion is a human right to the left.Why bother to prevent conception when you can get rid of the results

Why bother with abortion when you can prevent unwanted pregnancy in the first place?

Besides how does that negate the idea that abortion should be legal?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:16am On Dec 11, 2020
LordReed:


Why bother with abortion when you can prevent unwanted pregnancy in the first place?

Besides how does that negate the idea that abortion should be legal?

Liberal logic.Im being sarcastic to their reasoning.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 11:16am On Dec 11, 2020
Dapcity007:



Voters fraud debunks its a crusade

The suit doesn't allege fraud so you must not know what you are talking about.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:19am On Dec 11, 2020
LordReed:


The suit doesn't allege fraud so you must not know what you are talking about.


Evidence of voters fraud will presented as the case progresses

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:24am On Dec 11, 2020
Dapcity007:



Evidence of voters fraud will presented as the case progresses

A clause says that executive and court changes gave rise to fraud.
The court will demand evidence
They will get it.Then admonish those activist judges looking to throw out cases on technicalities instead of calling anti or pro witnesses

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 11:49am On Dec 11, 2020
Dapcity007:



Only rape is the only justifiable reason to kill an infant and only then can it be the choice of the woman to let it live

The data for abortion via rape is < 1%.

Risk to mothers health and life also but her physical health and proven clinical psychological health

I repeat it again and again, the choice to abort or not to abort rests principally with the woman, whether it is rape, incest, prostitution or simply sexual immorality. You can't force a woman to birth, care and love a baby she does not want. It's as simple as that. Just like you cannot force lady to love you. If a lady feels she does not and cannot love you anymore, she is free to file for a divorce instead of marrying another husband or commuting adultery.
We men have greater rights over our bodies, grant the same rights to women. If I am tired of my wife, society accept i divorce her and marry another wife. Most even accept our marry a second and third (aka Ned Nwoko and FFK) without even a divorce.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 11:56am On Dec 11, 2020
wirinet:


I repeat it again and again, the choice to abort or not to abort rests principally with the woman, whether it is rape, incest, prostitution or simply sexual immorality. You can't force a woman to birth, care and love a baby she does not want. It's as simple as that. Just like you cannot force lady to love you. If a lady feels she does not and cannot love you anymore, she is free to file for a divorce instead of marrying another husband or commuting adultery.
We men have greater rights over our bodies, grant the same rights to women. If I am tired of my wife, society i divorce her and marry another wife. Most even accept our marry a second and third (aka Ned Nwoko and FFK) without even a divorce.

Forget these people and their political talking points, they will be first to tel their side chicks or any ladies they impregnate to abort because they don't want babies

Coonservatives are always making every issue a liberal matter but when its passed they will be benefitting from it, Nigeria is supposed to be a conservative place but abortions rates are high, so called Christians and pro life will 'kill' babies when it suits them

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 11:56am On Dec 11, 2020
basilico:


Abortion is a human right to the left.Why bother to prevent conception when you can get rid of the results
Yes, it's a fundamental human rights. It's immoral for men to force women to have babies they don't want. There are no such burdens on men. After destroying her kpekus, we are free to go scot free without any consequences when the results prove positive. The woman is expected to carry the burden and shame of the "sin" we both committed

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 11:57am On Dec 11, 2020
I will say this again, abortion doesn't only happen when pregnancy is unwanted, anyone arguing abortion basing off unwanted pregnancy or morality is an ignorant idiot, guess to these people kids who die in womb were aborted too

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:04pm On Dec 11, 2020
wirinet:


I repeat it again and again, the choice to abort or not to abort rests principally with the woman, whether it is rape, incest, prostitution or simply sexual immorality. You can't force a woman to birth, care and love a baby she does not want. It's as simple as that. Just like you cannot force lady to love you. If a lady feels she does not and cannot love you anymore, she is free to file for a divorce instead of marrying another husband or commuting adultery.
We men have greater rights over our bodies, grant the same rights to women. If I am tired of my wife, society i divorce her and marry another wife. Most even accept our marry a second and third (aka Ned Nwoko and FFK) without even a divorce.



Now u are unapologetically against responsibility
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:06pm On Dec 11, 2020
wirinet:

Yes, it's a fundamental human rights. It's immoral for men to force women to have babies they don't want. There are no such burdens on men. After destroying her kpekus, we are free andostrich times go Scotland free without any consequences when the results prove positive. The woman is expected to carry the burden and shame of the sin.



Why the hypocritical right to choice of contraceptives
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 12:24pm On Dec 11, 2020
Dapcity007:




Now u are unapologetically against responsibility
I am unapologetically against asking only women to be responsible. If men are expected to be responsible and punished for acts of being irresponsible, then I will support ban on abortion (excluding rape and incest).

If the man is forced to take and care for the baby once it is born since he refused to marry her and allow her to get on with her life and career without being encumbered by a baby she doesn't want. Then I will support ban on abortion.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:27pm On Dec 11, 2020
wirinet:

Yes, it's a fundamental human rights. It's immoral for men to force women to have babies they don't want. There are no such burdens on men. After destroying her kpekus, we are free andostrich times go Scotland free without any consequences when the results prove positive. The woman is expected to carry the burden and shame of the sin.

Explain these dilemma

If solved will make abortion universally considered

A man wants to make a woman abort she refuses him his DNA rights

A man wants to keep his unborn infant the woman refuses him his DNA rights

Until these female privilege and sexism is solved

Pro choice argument will always b built on emotive reasoning, judicial activism , acceptance of irresponsibility, Moral dilemma, Sexist bigotry
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 12:31pm On Dec 11, 2020
sanpipita:
I will say this again, abortion doesn't only happen when pregnancy is unwanted, anyone arguing abortion basing off unwanted pregnancy or morality is an ignorant idiot, guess to these people kids who die in womb were aborted too

Don't mind the moral cape crusaders of the universe. They fail to acknowledge that between 10 to 20% of all pregnacies abort naturally.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:32pm On Dec 11, 2020
Dapcity007:
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Are u now saying u will not acknowledge the enlightenment era of the French revolution?
Do I not wear my Liberté with enough pride for you to call me a libtard?

Then, perhaps enquire of buda from your fellow magas.

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