Barristter07:


Among the " NOBODY (No person ) knows ... Except the Father " .

unless holy spirit is not a person.

the holy spirit is not a person, yet can be sinned against? Can you sin against a force?

Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

So the father share the same name with a force? If the holy Spirit is not a person then the father is not a person because they equally have same name. In your family, all the people that share same surname are all humans right? Can a non living thing share same name with your?

Jesus was only speaking of persons the disciples were familiar with, the personhood of the holy Spirit was yet to be revealed to the disciples because the ministry of the holy Spirit had not started., so Jesus was only speaking of the persons the disciples knew.

Barristter07:


Doesn't apply to what came through the Father. Read the bold.

@ bolded is a lie, it didnt say so, the language was in present tense not in past tense.
Read carefully, it did not say through him all things were created or made through but rather through him all things are.


Through him are all things is different from through him were all things.

all things are through God. This means that not only is God the source of all things, He holds them together. He sustains everything that is. He is active and present in the work of keeping the universe running. All things that exist continue through Him.

Secondly, the context in which paul is speaking from is from the counsel/wisdom/knowledge of God.

Romans 11:33-34 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

Same thing in Hebrews 2,

Meaning it was through his knowledge/wisdom all things have their form.



The bible never said all things was created through the father rather through God all things are (remain in their present form) that is why the present tense is used, not past.

livingchrist:
@ bolded is a lie, it didnt say so, the language was in present tense not in past tense.
Read carefully, it did not say through him all things were created or made through but rather through him all things are.


Through him are all things is different from through him were all things.

all things are through God. This means that not only is God the source of all things, He holds them together. He sustains everything that is. He is active and present in the work of keeping the universe running. All things that exist continue through Him.

Secondly, the context in which paul is speaking from is from the counsel/wisdom/knowledge of God.

Romans 11:33-34 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

Same thing in Hebrews 2,

Meaning it was through his knowledge/wisdom all things have their form.



The bible never said all things was created through the father rather through God all things are (remain in their present form) that is why the present tense is used, not past.

Answer a fool, According to his foolery, see below

livingchrist

Roman 11vv36 applies both to the father, son and holy spirit.

Your without Jesus postulation doesn't apply to what came through the Father's agency.

Barristter07:
1John 2:20 said Know ALL . Translators realize this Couldn't mean they know everything. That's my point, all things doesn't mean total. all things in the context of the Father and son are different, One person came through and Belong to the other, the other doesn't.

Hypocrite!

So your translation is wrong for saying "...and ALL of you have knowledge"

The ALL THINGS that are from the came is the same ALL THINGS that are THROUGH the Son.

Emusan:


Hypocrite!

So your translation is wrong for saying "...and ALL of you have knowledge"

The ALL THINGS that are from the came is the same ALL THINGS that are THROUGH the Son.

You are hooked .

My translation is not wrong, the translation just admitted that All things does not mean total. So th word knowledge was used.

In the Greek text, Does 1John 2:20 not say KNOW ALL ?

Come and tell me if those Disciples know everything . Then let's see if your same all things yarn go sell

livingchrist:
the holy spirit is not a person, yet can be sinned against? Can you sin against a force?

Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

So the father share the same name with a force? If the holy Spirit is not a person then the father is not a person because they equally have same name. In your family, all the people that share same surname are all humans right? Can a non living thing share same name with your?

Jesus was only speaking of persons the disciples were familiar with, the personhood of the holy Spirit was yet to be revealed to the disciples because the ministry of the holy Spirit had not started., so Jesus was only speaking of the persons the disciples knew.

Ogbeni Beru OLORUN ( Fear God ) na.

So Jesus is wrong for using NOBODY then , when you speak of people you are familiar with alone , you don't say Nobody . NOBODY means no person. So in short you mean Jesus is still lying

Barristter07:


Answer a fool, According to his foolery, see below



Your without Jesus postulation doesn't apply to what came through the Father's agency.

where is it written here that through the father all things were made, clown.
It didnt say all things came through the father lie lie, rather through God all things are.

It applies to all members of trinity.

Barristter07:
You are hooked .

And you're hanged

My translation is not wrong, the translation just admitted that All things does not mean total. So th word knowledge was used.

Only an educated illiterate will say "ALL THINGS does not mean TOTAL"

So both KJV and your translation are correct!

Hypocrite!

In the Greek text, Does 1John 2:20 not say KNOW ALL?

Come and tell me if those Disciples know everything . Then let's see if your same all things yarn go sell

It didn't say so....

The fact is, the same ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that come through Jesus.

Barristter07:


Ogbeni Beru OLORUN ( Fear God ) na.

So Jesus is wrong for using NOBODY then , when you speak of people you are familiar with alone , you don't say Nobody . NOBODY means no person. So in short you mean Jesus is still lying

nobody means no man.

Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Barristter07:
Ogbeni Beru OLORUN ( Fear God ) na.

Do you fear God?

So Jesus is wrong for using NOBODY then , when you speak of people you are familiar with alone , you don't say Nobody . NOBODY means no person. So in short you mean Jesus is still lying

It's no longer ONLY but now NOBODY!

keep lying for your demonic organization.

And the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Emusan:


Do you fear God?

It's no longer ONLY but now NOBODY!

keep lying for your demonic organization.

And the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

If holy spirit is a person, the Verse above contradicted Jesus and make him a liar.

we know even the human spirit searches all the thoughts of man yet its not a person

" A person's spirit is the lamp of the LORD; it searches throughout one's innermost being. " Prov 20:27 ISV

wahala for no know bible

Mumu your evidence proves Jesus is a Liar provided holy spirit is a person. Deal with it.

livingchrist:
nobody means no man.

Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Uncle lie lie oniranu

nothing like " man " exist in that verse.

At Matthew 11:27 Jesus used the same greek word when he said no one knows the Father except the son and no one knows the son, except the Father . SAME gREek word . Mr liar, he meant nobody in heaven or earth .

does that mean The angels know the Son like the Father if its no MAn ?

no single sense on you. Nobody means no person. Either holy spirit doesnt know or its not a person.

Barristter07:
If holy spirit is a person, the Verse above contradicted Jesus and make him a liar.

It didn't contradict it rather contradicts your dull brain.

we know even the human spirit searches all the thoughts of man yet its not a person

" A person's spirit is the lamp of the LORD; it searches throughout one's innermost being. " Prov 20:27 ISV

Human spirit is a person this has been established even in the scripture.

wahala for no know bible

Wahala for the educated illiterate.

Mumu your evidence proves Jesus is a Liar provided holy spirit is a person. Deal with it.

Oponu....

You can't still deny that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Emusan:


And you're hanged

Only an educated illiterate will say "ALL THINGS does not mean TOTAL"

I guess Paul is an illiterate


" For God has put everything under his feet. Now when it says "everything" is put under him, it is obvious that he who puts everything under him is the exception. " 1Cor 15:27

There is an exception to all things. Learn .

So both KJV and your translation are correct!

Hypocrite!



It didn't say so....

The fact is, the same ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that come through Jesus.

It says so " KNOW ALL "

Emphasis on " ALL "

Yet doesn't mean they have all the knowledge in the universe.

Not the same , Jesus belong to the Father but the Father doesn't belong to Jesus . Clear boundaries of the all things.

Jesus is part of the all things that came from the Father.

Emusan:


It didn't contradict it rather contradicts your dull brain.

Human spirit is a person this has been established even in the scripture.

Wahala for the educated illiterate.

Luke 23:46 , Was Jesus in heaven the day he died ?

Oponu....

You can't still deny that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Two persons know ba ?

Barristter07:
[s]Luke 23:46 , Was Jesus in heaven the day he died?[/s]

The spirit of man is a person.

Two persons know ba ?

Until you deny this first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Emusan:


The spirit of man is a person.

Verify the lie above.
Luke 23:46 - Was Jesus in heaven that day ?

Until you deny this first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Spirit of man which is not a person is even said to search man's thought, so what's special here? I have no issues with the verse , it doesn't contradict Jesus cos holy spirit is not a person.

If it's a PERSON, ALAYE ... You just made Jesus a Liar

Barristter07:
I guess Paul is an illiterate

" For God has put everything under his feet. Now when it says "everything" is put under him, it is obvious that he who puts everything under him is the exception. " 1Cor 15:27

There is an exception to all things. Learn .

Was the Father part of creation? No!

So ALL THINGS CREATED for both the Father and the Son.

So Creation belongs to Jesus.

It says so " KNOW ALL "

Emphasis on " ALL "

Yet doesn't mean they have all the knowledge in the universe.

Emphasis on ALL THINGS

The ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that are through the Son.

Not the same , Jesus belong to the Father but the Father doesn't belong to Jesus . Clear boundaries of the all things.

Jesus is part of the all things that came from the Father.

The Jesus is part of Himself because ALL THINGS that came from the Father are THROUGH Jesus.

Emusan:


The spirit of man is a person.



Until you deny this first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

I ask two persons know ba ? U no reply , e be like holy spirit is no longer a person

Barristter07:
[s]Verify the lie above.
Luke 23:46 - Was Jesus in heaven that day ?[/s]

Spirit of man which is not a person is even said to search man's thought,

The spirit of man is a person!

so what's special here? I have no issues with the verse , it doesn't contradict Jesus cos holy spirit is not a person.

If it's a PERSON, ALAYE ... You just made Jesus a Liar

Just tell first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Then you'll know what is special here!

Emusan:


Was the Father part of creation? No!

So ALL THINGS CREATED for both the Father and the Son.

Did Paul mention creation ?

U just prove the point , Alll things doesn't mean total

So Creation belongs to Jesus.

Emphasis on ALL THINGS

And the Begotten Jesus belong to whom ? Soro soke.

The ALL THINGS that came from the Father is the same ALL THINGS that are through the Son.

The Jesus is part of Himself because ALL THINGS that came from the Father are THROUGH Jesus.

Jesus doesnt belong to himself , liar

Barristter07:
[s]I ask two persons know ba ? U no reply , e be like holy spirit is no longer a person[/s]

Make your post one on one subject matter!

Emusan:


The spirit of man is a person!

I go torment your life with that Scripture : Was Jesus in heaven the day he died ? Luke 23:46

Just tell first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Then you'll know what is special here!

And that means two persons know ba ?

Barristter07:
Did Paul mention creation?

U just prove the point , Alll things doesn't mean total

No! But ALL THINGS under salvation which is from creation.

ALL THING means TOTAL!

And the Begotten Jesus belong to whom ? Soro soke.

To himself if we go by your interpretation.

Jesus doesnt belong to himself , liar

But Jesus is part of ALL THINGS that belongs to the Father according you oponu....

Then Jesus must belong to Himself because ALL THINGS the Father has BELONGS to Jesus.

Barristter07:
[s]I go torment your life with that Scripture : Was Jesus in heaven the day he died ? Luke 23:46[/s]

The spirit of man is a person!

And that means two persons know ba ?

Just tell first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

Emusan:

The spirit of man is a person!

E pass your level. Your postulation is a lie. Thanks

Just tell first that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

U no well o

I told you holy spirit is not a person , so Jesus isn't lying. If I said Holy spirit is a person and two persons know, then That's when I made the scripture to be a lie.

Barristter07:
E pass your level. Your postulation is a lie. Thanks

U no well o

Fact, human spirit is a person!

I told you holy spirit is not a person , so Jesus isn't lying. If I said Holy spirit is a person and two persons know, then That's when I made the scripture to be a lie.

Where did Jesus say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?

This is the second time I'll ask this question.

Just tell us that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."

because ANOTHER THING KNOWS, whether it's a person or not, something else knows apart from the Father which will make Jesus a liar too.

Emusan:


Fact, human spirit is a person!

Where did Jesus say ONLY ONE PERSON KNOWS?

Matt 24:36 ONLY THE FATHER

The Father is how many persons ?

This is the second time I'll ask this question.

Just tell us that "the scripture was lying when it says "The Holy Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God."


because ANOTHER THING KNOWS, whether it's a person or not, something else knows apart from the Father which will make Jesus a liar too.

Is this what you are reduced to ? Power of the truth.

For your information, the word " NO ONE and NOBODY " means NO PERSON. - Oxford Dictionary

Barristter07:


Uncle lie lie oniranu

nothing like " man " exist in that verse.

At Matthew 11:27 Jesus used the same greek word when he said no one knows the Father except the son and no one knows the son, except the Father . SAME gREek word . Mr liar, he meant nobody in heaven or earth .

does that mean The angels know the Son like the Father if its no MAn ?

no single sense on you. Nobody means no person. Either holy spirit doesnt know or its not a person.

I know your brain has shot off, nobody implies no man.
I will watch as you disgrace yourself now, oya bring out the greek word and let's find out its usage in other parts of the bible if it does not mean no man.

livingchrist:
I know your brain has shot off, nobody implies no man.
I will watch as you disgrace yourself now, oya bring out the greek word and let's find out its usage in other parts of the bible if it does not mean no man.

Very silly idiot , it's now " implies "
Nobody means no person, that's why Jesus had to exclude the Only person that knows .

Angels mentioned in that text are not man, yet they are part of the NO ONE KNOWs. Idiot.

Barristter07:

Very silly idiot , it's now " implies "
Nobody means no person, that's why Jesus had to exclude the Only person that knows .

Angels mentioned in that text are not man, yet they are part of the NO ONE KNOWs. Idiot.

he already listed the Angels so nobody does not include Angel's because he already mentioned them.
So in matt 11vv27 when when Jesus said nobody knows who the son is, except the father it includes the angels?

When a fool has nothing to say he result to insult

livingchrist:
he already listed the Angels so nobody does not include Angel's because he already mentioned them.
So in matt 11vv27 when when Jesus said nobody knows who the son is, except the father it includes the angels?

When a fool has nothing to say he result to insult

The angels know the Father pass the son ?

Open your thinking cap bro

Nobody means no person . Holy spirit is not a person ... If it is, then it's among the NOBODY knows which is another problem . The more you drag this, the more you rope yourself