Janosky:


This Bros, you well ?

livingchrist:
you Jehovah witness do not know what trinity is, trinity doctrine does not teach that Jesus and the father are the same person but rather they are one being.
Trinity actually means one God in three persons and three persons in one God.
The person of the father is same as the son neither is it same as the holy Spirit but all the same God.

livingchrist:
Jesus also prayed for his disciples to be one as they are one. John 17vv11.
By saying Jesus and the father are the same person you make Jesus a liar.
John 5:31
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

John 5:32
There is another that beareth witness of me;
and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

John 8:18
I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

Did you see where Jesus called his father 'another'.
If Jesus (as one person) bears witness then his witness cannot be true (according to the law).

Jashub:
[s][/s] You are still contradicting yourself, that is why the JW boys are silently mocking you.

Jesus prayed that He and His disciples should be one. But He never identified Himself and them being one.


John 14:9 tells us plainly His identity.

Jashub:
Did you see that Jesus is saying he and the father are different persons?

The bolded is a serious contradiction because you are indirectly telling us here, that Jesus and God are two different personages with a separate existence. But you fail to understand that in Colossian 2:9, scripture says that the fullness of the Godhead in bodily form is in Jesus, which happens to be one Person . The bolded contradicts many other verses. Examples are : 1Timothy 3:16 , Isiah 9:6 and 1John 5:7.

livingchrist:
fools always mock at wisdom, why are you striking out where Jesus told you he is a different person from the father.
There is nowhere Jesus told you he is the father.

Jashub:
I never struck anything out; It is you who did that. You chose to use a handful of verses that hold a very weak argument to explain the true identity of Jesus. If you had taken the time to go through the four gospels you will see that each writer expressed Jesus from different perspectives.

And by the way, those JW chaps are mocking you big time!

Preciousgirl:


I tell you

He earlier created a thread stating Jesus is YWHW

Today he says Jesus is not YHWH making him a laughing stock to the jw cultists

If anyone denies that Jesus Christ is the Father, then he is a jw.

To deny Jesus' deity, jws have doctored the Bible and removed/modified all verses supporting the truth to Hold their stupid and blasphemous teaching that The Lord Jesus Christ is a created being.

Jw is ANTICHRIST.

Their doctrine is to undermine Our Lord Jesus.

God bless you Jahshub

Jashub:
The JW movement created by Charles Russell Tuze is a satanic movement. That is why you will never see miracles happening there. They even reject the Holy Spirit

Jashub:
The JW movement created by Charles Russell Tuze is a satanic movement. That is why you will never see miracles happening there. They even reject the Holy Spirit

GIBBERISH

You can't defend the topic of this thread, you want to derail this thread and your only solace is to resort to FALSE claims and GIBBERISH.
John 20:17, Jesus Christ have put you and your Pastorpreneurs to shame.

Janosky:


GIBBERISH

You can't defend the topic of this thread, you want to derail this thread and your only solace is to resort to FALSE claims and GIBBERISH

Preciousgirl:


I tell you

He earlier created a thread stating Jesus is YWHW

Today he says Jesus is not YHWH making him a laughing stock to the jw cultists

If anyone denies that Jesus Christ is the Father, then he is a jw.

To deny Jesus' deity, jws have doctored the Bible and removed/modified all verses supporting the truth to Hold their stupid and blasphemous teaching that The Lord Jesus Christ is a created being.

Jw is ANTICHRIST.

Their doctrine is to undermine Our Lord Jesus.

God bless you Jahshub

If to say Jahshub and Precious girl no learn the model prayer of Jesus @ Matthew 6:9, I for understand

They attended kindergarten and recited the model prayer of Jesus teaching :"Our Father who art in heaven"
Yet, they reject the truth they learnt in kindergarten and came to Nairaland to make a mockery of themselves.
TUEH !!

Jashub:
I do not need to defend the Bible and I thank my God your cult(JW), can never influence my steadfast belief of what lies in scriptures.

P. S: You can cashout on that

Janosky:

If to say Jahshub and Precious girl no learn the model prayer of Jesus @ Matthew 6:9, I for understand

They attended kindergarten and recited the model prayer of Jesus teaching :"Our Father who art in heaven"
Yet, they reject the truth they learnt in kindergarten and came to Nairaland to make a mockery of themselves.
TUEH !!

Janosky:

Jahshub knows what lies in Scriptures
Is Matthew 6:9 in your Bible?
Please quote it for us

Jashub:

[s][/s] You are still contradicting yourself, that is why the JW boys are silently mocking you.

Jesus prayed that He and His disciples should be one. But He never identified Himself and them being one.


John 14:9 tells us plainly His identity.

Jashub:
Thanks but I certainly do not like reading one page of a book before coming to a narrow conclusion. I read everything in the book. And that will give me a good idea of what that book says.

Janosky:


Please explain what Jesus Christ told you
@ Matthew 6:9, John 20:17 and Revelation 3:5..

Who is the Father of Jesus Christ in the spiritual realm and earthly realm?

Jashub:
So Isaiah 9:6, John14:9 and Colossians 2:9 are not part of Jesus words...abi? Did Charles tell you not to read those parts of the bible before drawing a conclusion of who Jesus really is?

Janosky:

Isaiah 9:6, The son will be called... Prince of peace, Mighty God..." ,so what ?
Jesus is not Prince of peace, Mighty God before his birth on earth, Bros,no dey make FALSE claims.
Jahshub WILL BE called "the Barrister/Justice of the Peace.. at birth are you a Barrister/Justice of the Peace?
Bros,Receive SENSE



Mighty God in Hebrew meaning Mighty One, is a title of Man, Jesus, Angels, & Jehovah.
Only Jehovah is Almighty, Most High , Psalms 83:18. Exodus 6:3, confirm.

Colossians 2:10 , says it's in heaven he received the fullness of divine nature.. (Colossians 1:19, it pleases God his Father to grant Jesus divine nature .
Who grants divine nature to Jesus your Father ?


If Jesus is your Father in John 14:9, Bros, @ John 14:28, Why would Jesus your Father say his own Father is greater than Jesus

DappaD:
Jashub please what is the name of your church let's inspect whether your pastor and church members share your views?

Jashub:
Bros, I did not write the bible o. I only met it here and what it said is what I quoted to you. So why you come dey reject wetin bible talk? Or are you now smarter than the Author of the Bible ?

You didn't write the Bible doesn't mean you should twist Collossians 2:9 when you refused to read and understand Collossians 1:19 & Collossians 2:10..( it pleases the Father to grant divine nature to Jesus Christ coupled with authority in heaven whereas, you lied that Jesus is the Father)

It doesn't mean you should twist John 14:9 when you refused to read and understand John 20:17 and John 14:28. The Father is greater than Jesus but you lied that Jesus is the Father)

Even John 3:16, you pay lip service to... " God so loved the world HE sent His Son" una no agree. Una say .
"God sent himself "

Jashub:
I am not interested in arguing because that will be a futile effort since each of us have our own conclusions on the identity of who God really is.

But take or leave it :Jesus is the unknown God who we all claim to know and serve. It is one of the reason we pray in His name.

HedwigesMaduro:


But Jesus Christ in the Bible claims He has a God. Who is that God? Or should I assume Christ was lying (God forbid) and that you are telling the truth that He is the Almighty God?

Jashub:
Let me ask you the following questions:


1. If God is indeed greater than Jesus, then why will He command that all beings in Heaven, and on earth bow before Jesus(Phillipians 2:10)? Is that not an error on His part...is God not also amongst the inhabitants of Heaven? Does it mean God too will bow before Jesus?


2. Why would Jesus explicitly tell His disciples He was the Father (John14:9)? Was He lying to them by making this claim?

3. John chapter 1 said " the Word was with God", but it also said, " the Word was God ". And all things were created by Him and for Him (Colossian 1:16), so why can He(Jesus) not be God?

Jashub:
That questions is completely basesless. Are we not all Christians? The heaven you are going to is it different from mine? Please be guided.

Jashub:
Ask the book of John14:9. Read it carefully and see what Jesus claimed He was. I no fit shout oga