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Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Nobody: 2:44pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
enilove: I have to say you are the one of the very few persons I've seen that is nearest to the truth of the Nature of God. May God increase your knowledge in Jesus Name. Most of these Trinitarians and so on always make the Bible look like it contradicts itself whenever they "back up" their points with the scriptures. Shalom. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Nobody: 2:46pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Excuse us sir, we are being serious here. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 2:50pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Janosky:Oga, God is a tripartite being ;just as man is also a tripartite being. Which is why we are created in His image and possess those qualities of Him. (Genesis2) God exist in three forms : The Father, The Son (aka the word) and The Holy Spirit. These three forms are one and are always in agreement and bear witness of matters on earth and in heaven. (1John5:7) Think of them as water existing in three state of matter : Gas (Steam) Solid(Ice) Liquid (Water) For the fact that water exist in these forms , does not remove the fact that it is water. So also is it with God. God created the world through His word and this Word was the God (John 1:1). This means that God created the world through God. And this is a great mystery which only few can discern. And as for John 3:16, that verse is still the same thing as God sending God into the world. Or is Jesus not the word of God, that was also God? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by sonmvayina(m): 2:52pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
HedwigesMaduro: Very very....do an unbiased reserch.. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 2:54pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DappaD:Oga park abeg. So those scriptures that Jesus spoke expressly about Himself were lies abi? Oga pack abeg. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Nobody: 2:59pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: So if someone says "if you see the first lady you've seen the president" it means the first lady is the president? Or you've not heard "if you see that boy you've seen his father" before? Jesus said He has a God, but you prefer an expression that is more idiomatic than a literal, direct confession. That's up to you though. Shalom. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:00pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DappaD:So you are JW? Blood of God!!! I never knew. Anyway, now that you have told me, I cannot agree with you because of some satanic indoctrinations Charles Tuze let you swallow. And these doctrines run contrary to what i have read and seen from the bible. Peace. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by DappaD: 3:05pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: Wait for your trinitarian brothers to come and explain what their “Holy Ghost” taught them too. So when livingchrist was explaining his own version of Trinity why were you castigating him since it's the same “Holy Ghost” working amongst you people? You cannot claim that what your “Holy Ghost” taught you is superior to what theirs taught them. No it's not acceptable! Your 1John 5:7 falsehood has already been exposed long before now. Go online and search for “Comma Johannine”. That should cure your delusions. You're not even ashamed that you're DIRECTLY misconstruing a simple Scripture? Please who did God send to Pharaoh? Did God send himself or Moses? Exodus 3:10 Who took credit/glory for bringing Israel out of Egypt? God or Moses? Exodus 20:2 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by DappaD: 3:06pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: Shuu I will quote livingchrist again and again til you accept that all you trinitarians dogheads are confused. Shey livingchrist isn't a JW yet you disagree with his own trinity version nah? Lol 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:09pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
HedwigesMaduro:Read John14:9 with understanding please. If you had taken the pains to read the whole book of John, you would see that Jesus spoke a long time about His Father. He kept talking about His Father and His disciples, being curious to know who His father was, decided to ask the question : [Lord show us the Father. This is not a literal expression, no. The disciples here wanted traceable evidence of something they could see! And Jesus pointedly told them He was the Father. Throughour the Bible, Jesus indirectly speaks to His audience as God. Here are a few of His sayings. 8. In whom should we place faith in order to have eternal life? Jesus Jesus says, "the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life" John 3:14, 15 Jesus says, "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish" John 10:28 9. Through whom is salvation? Jesus Jesus says, "I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved." John 10:9 10. Who satisfies our spiritual hunger and thirst? Jesus Jesus says, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty" John 6:35 11. Who will raise people on the Last Day? Jesus Jesus says, "everyone who looks to the Son and believe in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day" John 6:40-44 12. Who is the bread of life? Jesus Jesus says, "I am the bread of life" John 6:48 13. Whose words will never pass away? Jesus' Jesus says, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away." Mark 13:31 14. Who gives life? Jesus Jesus says, "the one who feeds on me will live because of me" John 6:57 Jesus says, "if a man keeps my word, he will never see death." John 8:51 15. Who is the Life? Jesus Jesus says, "I am the life." John 14:6 16. Who will give life if we lose life for his sake? Jesus Jesus says, "Whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." Matthew 10:39 17. To whom shall we give our highest love? Jesus Jesus says, "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Matthew 10:37, 38 18. Who gives streams of living water? Jesus Jesus says, "He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him" John 7:38, 39 19. Who is the light of the world? Jesus Jesus says, "I am the light of the world" John 8:12, 9:5 20. Who sets people free from sin? Jesus Jesus says, "Every one who sins is a slave to sin. If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed." John 8:34, 36 21. Who has the right to forgive sin? Jesus Jesus says, "So that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins" Matthew 9:6 22. Who is eternal? Jesus Jesus says, "before Abraham was born, I am" John 8.58 23. Who is the resurrection and the life? Does God not do all these? Answer please. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:11pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DappaD:The chap you mentioned is probably Catholic or Anglican and they too are like JW and they reject the divinity of Jesus being God. Which is why you can barely see miracles happening there. P. S : Charismatics Catholics no vex o. Una own different |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by DappaD: 3:16pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: So you don't know that it was Catholics that forged this your trinity dogma which you now hold dearly? Is their own “Holy Ghost” different from yours? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:19pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DappaD:Your analogy is weak and seriously off -point here. Jesus is the word of God and and He is also God (John1:1l) and scripture says this expressly. Please why are you finding this so hard to accept? Why are you bring Moses and Aaron who are in now way related to this conversations? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:20pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DappaD:Catholics forged it? Hahahaha...my belle o. Please have you ever had an encounter before? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by DappaD: 3:25pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: Who told you it's not related? Exodus 3:10 said God sent somebody to set Israel free from slavery and Exodus 20:2 says that God took responsibility for it even though the human he sent was he one who appeared before Pharaoh. John 3:16 said that God sent somebody to set obedient humans free from slavery to sin and death Romans 8:21 But now you're saying God is the same as the person he sent in the case of John 3:16? How desperate can you be? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:32pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
The greatest impossibility! Jesus said "those who aren't on my side will SCATTER" {Luke 11:23} two or three individuals can never agree on what Jesus never taught talkless of a full church! There is no church where they can have the same line of thought my brother, unless Jesus is a liar. Because he fervently begged his father to use that as the sign to identify his own group {John 17:20-23} so they can never agree no matter how hard they try, it's only when they come against Jesus' true followers {JWs} that critics hide their differences in a show of shame! Act 23:6-10 DappaD: 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by DappaD: 3:33pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub:Please are you a learner? As in them born you yesterday? Because even a teenager in one of your churches knows that this trinity you're carrying on your head now was forged by the Catholic Church. Sir please leave all these your “encounter” and “falling-under-anointing” trash alone for now and focus on the topic. So who now told you livingchrist didn't have an “encounter” before he started giving his own version of the trinity? 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:37pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DappaD:Oga, you do not understand the bible neither do you understand the purpose of Jesus coming. For your information, Moses was sent to deliver God's people from slavery, not sin. Jesus on the other hand, was sent to deliver mankind from sin. And who is that one person who can deliver mankind from sin...? Is it not God alone? Does man have the ability to deliver Himself? No. Automatically, that qualified Jesus to be God. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:39pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DappaD:Oga, I just asked you a question. Answer it and stop being silly. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by livingchrist: 3:43pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub:Are they not mocking you now? Lol Weak? You call what Jesus said as weak? May God have mercy on you |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by DappaD: 3:44pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: So what happened after Adam sinned? Didn't he bring upon all humans sin and death? Romans 5:12? In your KJV BIBLE, Jesus said he came to the earth to give his life as a “ransom” Matthew 20:28 According to your dictionary, what is the meaning of the word “ransom”? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:46pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
[s] MaxInDHouse:[/s] JWs are following Satan through Charles Russell Tuze. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:48pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DappaD:Why are you digressing? Why not accept what I posted previously? Or does the post go contrary to what the bible says? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by livingchrist: 3:48pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Preciousgirl:mention me straight instead of going indirectly, It shows your shallow knowledge of the scripture. See while Jesus is the God in the old testament but Jesus is not the father, seek wisdom and understanding above everything else. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by DappaD: 3:49pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: You can even take note of the guy's response. In other words, it doesn't matter what anybody believes as long as they're all deceiving themselves with the words “We're all Christians” under the name of their trinity god. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:50pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
livingchrist:The verses you quoted are weak. And why do I call them weak? I call them weak because they are just a part of the jigsaw puzzle that gives the true identity of who Jesus is. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by DappaD: 3:51pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: I'm not digressing sir. I'm only showing you from within the Bible that what this your trinity you want to by all means import into it doesn't fit in with the Scriptures. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:54pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
DappaD:You are not digressing abi? Okay let us go back to that post. Here is : "For your information, Moses was sent to deliver God's people from slavery, not sin. Jesus on the other hand, was sent to deliver mankind from sin. And who is that one person who can deliver mankind from sin...? Is it not God alone? Does man have the ability to deliver Himself? No. Automatically, that qualified Jesus to be God. " The bolded, is the analogy, according to the bible, true or false. Answer |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:55pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Please admit that Satan is organized and orderly whereas your Jesus is the author of confusion and absurdity Sir! Matthew 7:15-20 Because JWs are the most organized and orderly group the world has ever known, so if they are so organized and you can't present any group belonging to your Jesus that's better than the JWs, then what's the value of your Jesus? Luke 12:10 Jashub: 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:57pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
I disagree with you brother, if that's how he wants it then why is he castigating livingchrist? DappaD: |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 3:58pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:JW is a cult whose its founder started its origin from by reading the bible backward with a twist. To me, that makes JW just like Islam and Buddhism |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by DappaD: 3:58pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: Take note of the words below in bold and provide the answer to it. DappaD: |
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