[quote author=DappaD post=97261288][/quote] You do not answer questions with questions.

Excellent idea Sir!

That's why JEHOVAH said to Moses

"look i have made you God" Exodus 7:1

Definitely the same person who made Moses a deliverer and God did the same with Jesus! Deuteronomy 18:15-18

For your information Apostle Peter confirmed that Jesus is the prophet like Moses! Act 3:22

Because they were both sent as deliverers and Gods!

Jashub:
You are not digressing abi? Okay let us go back to that post.


Here is :

"For your information, Moses was sent to deliver God's people from slavery, not sin.
Jesus on the other hand, was sent to deliver mankind from sin. And who is that one person who can deliver mankind from sin...? Is it not God alone? Does man have the ability to deliver Himself? No.
Automatically, that qualified Jesus to be God. "



The bolded, is the analogy, according to the bible, true or false. Answer

MaxInDHouse:
Excellent idea Sir!

That's why JEHOVAH said to Moses

"look i have made you God" Exodus 7:1

Definitely the same person who made Moses a deliverer and God did the same with Jesus! Deuteronomy 18:15-18

For your information Apostle Peter confirmed that Jesus is the prophet like Moses! Act 3:22

Because they were both sent as deliverers and Gods!

Wrong JW.

Jesus is only one who can saves us from sin, and it is only God who can do that ; not even Moses.


So just ditch the whole Moses analogy because they are completely different people

Don't mind him jare!

He is doing exactly what his teacher also did to critics back in the first century! Matthew 21:23-27 compared to Matthew 10:24-25

Jashub:

You do not answer questions with questions.

I only played along using your logic Sir!

You said Jesus as a deliverer automatically makes him God right?

God's word support your assertion that Moses who also was a deliverer is a God! Exodus 7:1

Jashub:
Wrong JW.

Jesus is only one who can saves us from sin, and it is only God who can do that ; not even Moses.

MaxInDHouse:
I only played along using your logic Sir!

Please quote where I used such logic?

Both Moses and Jesus delivered without using a military force so both of them are Gods!

Jashub:
Does man have the ability to deliver Himself? NO!
Automatically, that qualified Jesus to be God"

Janosky:

Isaiah 9:6, The son will be called... Prince of peace, Mighty God..." ,so what ?
[b]Jesus is not Prince of peace, Mighty God before his birth on earth, Bros,no dey make FALSE claims.
Jahshub WILL BE called "the Barrister/Justice of the Peace.. at birth are you a Barrister/Justice of the Peace?
Bros,Receive SENSE [/b]



Mighty God in Hebrew meaning Mighty One, is a title of Man, Jesus, Angels, & Jehovah.
Only Jehovah is Almighty, Most High , Psalms 83:18. Exodus 6:3, confirm.

Colossians 2:10 , says it's in heaven he received the fullness of divine nature.. (Colossians 1:19, it pleases God his Father to grant Jesus divine nature .
Who grants divine nature to Jesus your Father ?


If Jesus is your Father in John 14:9, Bros, @ John 14:28, Why would Jesus your Father say his own Father is greater than Jesus

Lying cultist:

In the beginning was the Word....and the Word was God

Deal with it u vessel of the devil

You will die in your sins

MaxInDHouse:
I disagree with you brother, if that's how he wants it then why is he castigating livingchrist?

Because livingchrist is one of his brethren in tha Lord so even if they abuse and insult each other over conflicting ideologies, at the end of the day, they can utter their usual “Jesus is Lord” slogan and go their separate ways.

MaxInDHouse:
Both Moses and Jesus delivered without using a military force so both of them are Gods!

Lying Cultist

Moses is not fit to Lace Jesus' shoes; ask John the Baptist

Jesus Christ is God Almighty, go and die

Jashub:
The verses you quoted are weak. And why do I call them weak? I call them weak because they are just a part of the jigsaw puzzle that gives the true identity of who Jesus is.

I just laugh at your ignorance, which puzzle, when Jesus already told you the father is another person.
The witness of two people is what is taking as truth in the law and Jesus said he is one that bear witness and the father a second person also bear witness making them two people hence Jesus testimony is true, however this cannot be true if Jesus is the same person as the father.
Furthermore, in John chapter 1 the word was with God telling you that the word is a person while the father and the holy Spirit are other persons,
Again in Genesis God said let us create man in our image, does this not tell you God is more than one person?
The trinity is all over the scripture, Jesus said baptise in the name of the father and of the son and of the spirit, these are three persons mentioned.

Jesus was sent by the father and the holy Spirit, throughout the scripture there are hint about the trinity, so my dear brother there is no puzzle there, right from Genesis God said let us which mean more than one person.

Preciousgirl:


Lying cultist:

In the beginning was the Word....and the Word was God

Deal with it u vessel of the devil

You will die in your sins

This part was written after Jesus ascension to heaven!

Start from here.
why does that verse said; The word WAS God?
Was he no longer God?

[s]

livingchrist:
I just laugh at your ignorance, which puzzle, when Jesus already told you the father is another person.
The witness of two people is what is taking as truth in the law and Jesus said he is one that bear witness and the father a second person also bear witness making them two people hence Jesus testimony is true, however this cannot be true if Jesus is the same person as the father.
Furthermore, in John chapter 1 the word was with God telling you that the word is a person while the father and the holy Spirit are other persons,
Again in Genesis God said let us create man in our image, does this not tell you God is more than one person?
The trinity is all over the scripture, Jesus said baptise in the name of the father and of the son and of the spirit, these are three persons mentioned.

Jesus was sent by the father and the holy Spirit, throughout the scripture there are hint about the trinity, so my dear brother there is no puzzle there, right from Genesis God said let us which mean more than one person.

[/s] Three persons in one entity called Jesus(Colossians 2:9).

haddeylium:


This part was written after Jesus ascension to heaven!

Start from here.
why does that verse said; The word WAS God?
Was he no longer God?

Your blindness is beyond healing

I WEEP for your soul

MaxInDHouse:
Both Moses and Jesus delivered without using a military force so both of them are Gods!

Wrong again JW.

Moses and Jesus are in no way the same. Neither do they play the same roles in the anyway whatsoever. And here are reasons

1. Moses is just was a prophet God used to deliver Israel from Egyptian oppression, but Jesus is a deity (John1:1 and Isaiah9:6)that was worshipped.

2. Moses was a sinner, and his sin caused him not to see the promised land ; but Jesus was sinless and to the best of my knowledge, it is only God who is sinless.

3. Jesus forgive sins. And it is only God that has the right to forgive sins. The man Moses could never forgive sins because he was a just a man like you and me.

Preciousgirl:





Your blindness is beyond healing

I WEEP for your soul

They have not read the entire bible so how can they get the whole picture

Preciousgirl:





Your blindness is beyond healing

I WEEP for your soul

Calm down lady!
You quoted the verse!
The Word was God meant something that happened in the past...WAS!

This is difference from 'The word is God'...right?

Jashub:


Moses and Jesus are in no way the same.

I'm interested in this part
Moses' foretold that
Deuteronomy 18:18
I (Jehovah) will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him.

A prophet like Moses?... Who's he?
©Moses served as God
©He served as Deliverer
©He was a mediator of a covenant

So, who's that prophet?

haddeylium:


Calm down lady!
You quoted the verse!
The Word was God meant something that happened in the past...WAS!

This is difference from 'The word is God'...right?

Oga, you are just confused.

The bible said " In the beginning wasthe word and the words was with God, and the word God. "


By seeing the word was, it means this reported speech was done in the past and it does not in anyway, change the scriptural interpretation of the writer's narrative.

Jashub:
Read John14:9 with understanding please.

If you had taken the pains to read the whole book of John, you would see that Jesus spoke a long time about His Father.


He kept talking about His Father and His disciples, being curious to know who His father was, decided to ask the question : [Lord show us the Father. This is not a literal expression, no. The disciples here wanted traceable evidence of something they could see! And Jesus pointedly told them He was the Father.

Throughour the Bible, Jesus indirectly speaks to His audience as God. Here are a few of His sayings.

8. In whom should we place faith in order to have eternal life? Jesus
Jesus says, "the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who
believes in him may have eternal life" John 3:14, 15
Jesus says, "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish"
John 10:28
9. Through whom is salvation? Jesus
Jesus says, "I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved."
John 10:9
10. Who satisfies our spiritual hunger and thirst? Jesus
Jesus says, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never
go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty" John 6:35
11. Who will raise people on the Last Day? Jesus
Jesus says, "everyone who looks to the Son and believe in Him shall
have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day"
John 6:40-44
12. Who is the bread of life? Jesus
Jesus says, "I am the bread of life" John 6:48
13. Whose words will never pass away? Jesus'
Jesus says, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will
never pass away." Mark 13:31
14. Who gives life? Jesus
Jesus says, "the one who feeds on me will live because of me"
John 6:57
Jesus says, "if a man keeps my word, he will never see death."
John 8:51
15. Who is the Life? Jesus
Jesus says, "I am the life." John 14:6
16. Who will give life if we lose life for his sake? Jesus
Jesus says, "Whoever loses his life for my sake will find it."
Matthew 10:39
17. To whom shall we give our highest love? Jesus
Jesus says, "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me
is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more
than me is not worthy of me." Matthew 10:37, 38
18. Who gives streams of living water? Jesus
Jesus says, "He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said,
streams of living water will flow from within him" John 7:38, 39
19. Who is the light of the world? Jesus
Jesus says, "I am the light of the world" John 8:12, 9:5
20. Who sets people free from sin? Jesus
Jesus says, "Every one who sins is a slave to sin. If the Son
sets you free, you will be free indeed." John 8:34, 36
21. Who has the right to forgive sin? Jesus
Jesus says, "So that you may know that the Son of Man has
authority on earth to forgive sins" Matthew 9:6
22. Who is eternal? Jesus
Jesus says, "before Abraham was born, I am" John 8.58
23. Who is the resurrection and the life?


Does God not do all these? Answer please.

If I had read the book of John? You mean the same book that says "no one hath ever seen God", right?

HedwigesMaduro:


If I had read the book of John? You mean the same book that says "no one hath ever seen God", right?

Now you are making sense!


No one had ever seen God, true. But that did not stop God from revealing Himself. Let us see how He did this :

1Timothy3:16:


And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.


From the above verse, God has been seen. The revelation and the mystery of our God was revealed and He was seen by both men and angels.

Jashub:
Now you are making sense!


No one had ever seen God, true. But that did not stop God from revealing Himself. Let us see how He did this :

1Timothy3:16:


And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.


From the above verse, God has been seen. The revelation and the mystery of our God was revealed and He was seen by both men and angels.

. hallelujah

Jashub:
Now you are making sense!
No one had ever seen God, true. But that did not stop God from revealing Himself. Let us see how He did this :
1Timothy3:16:
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.
From the above verse, God has been seen. The revelation and the mystery of our God was revealed and He was seen by both men and angels.

The word “God” doesn't appear in 1Timothy 3:16 this is already becoming old news nau. It was forcefully inputted by your mischievous KJV translators.

haddeylium:

I'm interested in this part
Moses' foretold that
Deuteronomy 18:18
I (Jehovah) will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him.

A prophet like Moses?... Who's he?
©Moses served as God
©He served as Deliverer
©He was a mediator of a covenant

So, who's that prophet?

Another wrong analogy for using Moses to compare to Jesus.

For your information, Jesus is prophet according to the book of acts, but is He more than a prophet because miracles were done in His name. Miracles were never done in the name of any prophet in the bible.

Or were miracles done in the name of Moses?

DappaD:


The word “God” doesn't appear in 1Timothy 3:16 this is already becoming old news nau. It was forcefully inputted by your mischievous KJV translators.

That is another lie Charles Tuze told you J-boy. The idea that the translation is "incorrect" just exposes the stupidity of those who try to discredit the divinity of Jesus.


Even if we were to assume that the translation is incorrect, and we agreed that the writers of the bible bungled-up the meaning of words, we cannot overlook the claims Jesus made about Himself and those attributes that made Him God.

Jesus clearly has the identity mark of God through scripture and this is seen through His works and sayings.

Preciousgirl:


Lying Cultist

Moses is not fit to Lace Jesus' shoes; ask John the Baptist

Jesus Christ is God Almighty, go and die

You wish him death and yet you call yourself a Christian

Make una come see female terrorist o!

Na Boko Haram dey wish people die simply because of difference in beliefs, that's why Jesus rebuked his disciples for wishing those who don't agree with them death {Luke 9:51-56} according to the man from Nazareth God's children will pray for those who disagree with them on the reason of faith {Matthew 5:43-48} because each person strongly holds unto what he was taught doesn't mean anyone is evil! Luke 23:34 compared to Act 7:60

The highlighted shows the spirit driving your thoughts a murderous spirit {John 8:44} it's now obvious that people like you killed Jesus and his followers because of different in beliefs.

By your FRUIT everyone will know YOU! Matthew 7:15-20

Sorry next time don't debate with JWs on scriptural matters because we have the holy spirit, we will use the sword of the spirit (God's word) {Ephesians 6:17} to torment that demonic and murderous spirit in you so that it can't hide anymore but speak out! Hebrew 4:12

Come and let's pray for you, a normal woman like you supposed to be a mother not someone who wish a fellow human being like yourself to die!

May you have PEACE!

Preciousgirl:

Lying Cultist
Moses is not fit to Lace Jesus' shoes; ask John the Baptist
Jesus Christ is God Almighty, go and die

That's what Satan often resort to after been beaten with the swords of the spirit. She called out JWs just as Satan came to challenge Jesus in scriptural debate {Matthew 4:3-11} but after he was beaten hands down he resort to violence to get Jesus and his disciples killed {Revelations 12:17} the same spirit that took over Cain when he noticed that God accepted Abel's worship and rejected his own! Genesis 4:3-8

So we know them by that same FRUIT! Matthew 7:15-20

StubbornGENIUS:
You wish him death and yet you call yourself a Christian

Jashub:
Oga, you are just confused.

The bible said " In the beginning wasthe word and the words was with God, and the word God. "


By seeing the word was, it means this reported speech was done in the past and it does not in anyway, change the scriptural interpretation of the writer's narrative.

Jashub was a King..
is Jashub still a King in Liu?

The word was God right?
sentiment aside, that statement to go, the word is no longer God...right?...Was

Jashub:
Another wrong analogy for using Moses to compare to Jesus.

For your information, Jesus is prophet according to the book of acts, but is He more than a prophet because miracles were done in His name. Miracles were never done in the name of any prophet in the bible.

Or were miracles done in the name of Moses?

What analogy did you see there.
Don't force one into it pleases

Moses said 'God will raise a prophet Like him.
The question is' Who's that prophet that will be like Moses?

Preciousgirl:


Lying Cultist

Moses is not fit to Lace Jesus' shoes; ask John the Baptist

Jesus Christ is God Almighty, go and die

Lady!
Truth could be this tormenting
Take it easy oo

haddeylium:



What analogy did you see there.
Don't force one into it pleases

Moses said 'God will raise a prophet Like him.
The question is' Who's that prophet that will be like Moses?

Did you not read my last post? I already answer that question.