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Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by haddeylium(m): 8:21pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: Don't box You agreed Jesus is the prophet Moses foretold that would 'be like himself? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by livingchrist: 8:56pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: @bolded see how you are contradicting yourself. @least you can now see that God is a trinity of three persons right? Now who are the three persons? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 8:59pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
haddeylium:Oga, I thought you were wise but I can see folly in you. In Deut8:18, Moses said that God will raise a prophet from the Hebrews that will be like[/b]him. The word [b] Like here does not mean Jesus will exactly represent the position and authority Moses occupied and represented, no. In fact Moses and Jesus have very little in common. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 9:00pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
livingchrist:It is not a contradiction. Jesus is that God you claim to know and serve. God has three manifestation of Himself. And they are the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit. These manifestations came in different points in time. For example : In the old testament, it was God the Father that was dealing with Abraham and his descendants(The Israelites) When we look to the four gospels(Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) it was with God the Son who was at the centre of affairs. Which is why the gospels basically talk about the life of Jesus and His style of ministry. The Book of The Acts of the Apostles down to Revelations of John deal with the God the Holy Spirit who reveals the mystery of God after the departure of Jesus Christ. It is through this Holy Spirit that the mystery of "Godliness "(1Timothy 3:16) was revealed. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:17pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Hmmmmm how little is what they both have in common? Both Moses and Jesus "were" © referred to as God © rescued God's people © mediators of covenant © represented God © meek in attitude © died and angels took over their tomb © performed mighty works © without food for 40 day and 40 nights Jashub: |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by haddeylium(m): 9:22pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: So in summary, Jesus is not the prophet that Moses' foretold would be like him right? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by livingchrist: 9:24pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub:yes I serve Jesus, he is God and I ask you a very simple question who are the persons of the Godhead? You already said there are three persons in one entity , yes I agree with you that has being my point all through. By the way, Jesus is Almighty God but he is not the father. The trinity is simple, I am just repeating my self again. The father is Almighty God The Holy spirit is Almighty God Jesus is Almighty God But Jesus is not the father neither is the father the holy Spirit nor the holy Spirit Jesus. Is it clear to you now? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 9:26pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
haddeylium:Let me get this straight : are you saying like or exactly? Please select one so we can conclude. Because it seems your understanding of the word LIKE is off-point |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 9:27pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
livingchrist:I answered you through a modified post earlier. Scroll up and see it |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by livingchrist: 9:28pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub:you dodged my initial question, Who was God talking to when he said let us make man? Who are the us? Secondly, you said there are three persons in Jesus right not manifestations, Thirdly, If there was only one person that would make Jesus a liar because he bears witness for himself since according to the law there must be two people. Again, John 1:1 said in the beginning was the word, meaning the word has being from the beginning and not a manifestation that only appeared for a time. Again, you read in Gensis chapter 1, the spirit of God moved, Now put these together, God the father was already in Gensis, the holy spirit was also there and the word was there according to God, which means they were not manifestation that only existed at various period of times else, the holy spirit or Jesus would not have being in the old testament. Answer these first |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by haddeylium(m): 9:35pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: LIKE 1. having the same characteristics or qualities as; similar to. "he used to have a car like mine" Similar: similar to the same as identical to source; Oxford dictionary. So, Jesus is not that prophet right? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 9:40pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
livingchrist:God (Eloha) was conversing with Himself(Elohim). In Hebrew it is called Elohim, and it is Plural of God. This name is normally used when God wants to make decisions. Let me refer you two passages from scripture where God takes counsel with Himself 1. At the creation of man (Genesis 1:26) 2. The temptation and the fall of man(Genesis 3:22) 3. The tower of Babel. (Genesis 11:5-7) |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 9:49pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
[s] haddeylium:[/s]Please get this straight : The word similar does not mean exact and that is what you want. The use of the word like[/b]in this situational context means [b]compare. It is synonymous but not exact in meaning And looking at it logically, Moses is not like Jesus because he was never worshipped. The only 'likeness" they share here is their ability to lead people from the oppression they faced. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by livingchrist: 9:50pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub:Good, so God took counsel with himself as a plurality of persons right? Does that not tell you that God is actually a plurality of persons? Again, you read that the holy Spirit was there right? If the holy Spirit was just a manifestation of God that happened in the new testament how come he is also in the old testament? Thirdly, Is the holy spirit a force or a person? 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by enilove(m): 10:01pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
livingchrist: He is deliberately twisting the Scriptures to suit his argument. Which is very very unfortunate. You have tried your best . Thank God he is a believer. When we get to heaven , we shall all rejoice when the truth shall be revealed to us all. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Janosky: 10:08pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub:"He was manifest in the flesh" , this is the AUTHENTIC rendition. John 5:37, John 6:46, Whenever Jesus speaks, you cook up your own tales to contradict him "The word "God" does NOT occur in the Greek manuscript of 1 Timothy 3:16, in the same manner that your KJV 1john 5:7 is DUBIOUS. These dubious Trinitarians would ALWAYS use FRAUD to support their scam in 1 Timothy 3:16 Na their way. Read the screenshot and STOP using your FRAUD to DECEIVE yourselves
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Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by livingchrist: 10:10pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
enilove:well thank you very much I think he knows the truth already. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 10:14pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
livingchrist:Oga stop being silly and listen. Who is the main character in the old testament? And who was the emphasis really about? Is God the Holy Spirit or God the Father? Answer : it is the Father. And yes, old testament contained a handful verses that mentioned the Spirit of God, but the emphasis was always basically on God the Father. God is three entities in one vessel(Colossian 2:9). And this vessel always acts singlularly in purpose. Throughout scripture, we see that when Godhead (Elohim) wants to make a decision, the counsel of the Godhead (Father, Son and the Holy Spirit) comes into play(Genesis3:22). The old testament speaks mainly of the Father. Check it out and see. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 10:18pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
enilove:How have I twisted scripture here? What I quote is a literal interpretation of what scripture says. And if you do not like it, simply say so. Or am I the one who dictated the scripture? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 10:19pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
[s] Janosky:[/s] Charles has wounded you spiritually. Wallahi |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by haddeylium(m): 10:29pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: Two things could only be referred to as [i]similar[/i]if they share are the same characteristics and qualities Moses: God said He'll raise a prophet like Moses. It is not Jesus right? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Janosky: 10:31pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub:*1 Genesis 2:7 NEVER said so. *2 Bros, your 1John 5:7 quote DUBIOUS . Johannine Comma, Bros, shine your eyes Pls dump your analogy for dustbin *3 "This Word was the God". You DUBIOUSLY misquoted John 1:1. Bros, why? 4 good times, the Bible evidence (Screenshots) is against you. Jesus says himself is NOT the One true God. Jesus the Word is NOT "tov theos" (the God). Bros, no dey LIE... This is a public forum. John 1:1 Greek., John says you are wrong. John 17:3 Greek. Jesus says you are wrong. John 20:17 Greek. Jesus says you are wrong. John 14:1 Greek, Jesus says you are wrong. Bros, why? . *4 Even when you know Jesus decree a Curse against rejection of John 3:16-18 in John3:36 John 3:16, Bros, why do you contradict Jesus Christ?
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Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 10:52pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
haddeylium:What is the situational context of the word like? Can you tell us its meaning here? Then I shall give you answer |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Janosky: 10:55pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub:Very laughable Matthew 28:18, according to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ confessed he received power & authority from his God and Father to do the things in any Scripture Jahshub has cited. John 17:1-3, Jesus confirmation of authority given to him to give eternal life to the disciples. John 17:4-5,22,24.. Jesus begging for glory be given to him Would Jesus Christ beg for something he owns? Trinity shege |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 10:56pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
[s] Janosky:[/s] This smells of the lies concocted by Satan's Bishop (Charles Russell Tuze) |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by livingchrist: 11:07pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub:you keep contradicting yourself at every turn. These were your words, God has three manifestation of Himself. And they are the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit. These manifestations came in different points in time.From your statement, Jesus (the word) was a manifestation that has not come at that point and so also the holy Spirit. But I just showed you that the holy Spirit was in the beginning as well as the son. so where in the old testament is God called God the father? There were not a handful mr, the holy spirit is throughout the old testament so is the word. @ bolded oga go and sleep, so you knew the persons of the trinity were the ones in Genesis 1, since? Again you did not answer my question, Is the Holy spirit a person or a force? The father, son and holy Spirit are they persons or non persons? You said God is three entities in one vessel, lol Are these entities persons or not, is the point? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Janosky: 11:07pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: Go and read 1 John 5:7 & 1 Timothy 3:16 footnote in any Bible with Concordance/References, your GIBBERISH done do. Na Charles Russell write Biblehub Greek lexicon? Na Charles Russell write John 1:1 Greek? John 14:1 Greek? John 17:3 Greek? Na Charles Russell write Bible studytools ? Na Charles Russell write Bible studylight, (Trinitarian websites all of them be..) You learn the Model prayer " Our Father who art in heaven" in kindergarten, yet allow your Pastorpreneurs dey DECEIVE you Shame on you |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 11:12pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
For those who say Jesus is not your God, is it not written that those who call on the name of the Lord will be saved(Romans10:13)? This day I challenge all hypocrites who say Jesus is not God Almighty to stop saying His name in prayer. Start calling on the name of the Father or YHWH and see how the Devil will respond to you then come back and tell me the experience (that is if you will live to come back) Peace. |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 11:16pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
[s] livingchrist:[/s] It is not a contradiction because I said it in my last post that the Holy Spirit is mentioned in a handful of verses in the old testament. But I still stand on it to say, that God the Father is the main theme of the old testament. This is in your bible. Below is the screenshot of the message
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Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by Jashub: 11:18pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Janosky:Na still Charley Boy dey run your mata.... But no worry. I can see how he will burn in hell for rejecting Jesus as his Lord and God |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by enilove(m): 11:27pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: Let me ask you this question from the scriptures below : .Revelation 4:2-5 KJV And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. [3] And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. [4] And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. [5] And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. . Who is the one sitting on the throne in the above scriptures ? God the Father or God the Son ? |
Re: Jesus Christ Is The God Of The Old Testament In Flesh by DappaD: 11:28pm On Dec 20, 2020 |
Jashub: Joel 2:32: And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved. So who was Paul quoting in Romans 10:13? Because the tenth chapter of Romans features a lot of reference to the Hebrew Scriptures. |
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