Jashub:
For those who say Jesus is not your God, is it not written that those who call on the name of the Lord will be saved(Romans10:13)?

This day I challenge all hypocrites who say Jesus is not God Almighty to stop saying His name in prayer.

Start calling on the name of the Father or YHWH and see how the Devil will respond to you then come back and tell me the experience (that is if you will live to come back)


Peace.

Bros, STOP DECEIVING yourself...

Romans 10:13 is a quote of Joel 2:32

"Whoever calls on the name of Jehovah'/ Yahweh will be saved"

Mark12:29,30 Jesus quoted directly from Deuteronomy calling the name of his God, Jehovah/'Yahweh..
Unfortunately your mentors have fought tooth & nail to replace the divine name with the title "Lord" whereas Jesus Christ @ John 17:6,26 exposed your mentors by calling his Father's name.. (Matthew 6:9, our Father who art in heaven Hallow be your name )

Psalms 110:1,Proves Jehovah is superior to Jesus Christ,

"Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I put thine enemies [as] footstool of thy feet"
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"Sit at my right hand"
Bros, who gives that Command?
Bros, who is obedient to that command?

Trinity shege

enilove:


Let me ask you this question from the scriptures below :

.Revelation 4:2-5 KJV
And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
[3] And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
[4] And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
[5] And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. .

Who is the one sitting on the throne in the above scriptures ?

God the Father or God the Son ?

Janosky:


Bros, STOP DECEIVING yourself...

Romans 10:13 is a quote of Joel 2:32

"Whoever calls on the name of Jehovah'/ Yahweh will be saved"

Mark12:29,30 Jesus quoted directly from Deuteronomy calling the name of his God, Jehovah/'Yahweh..
Unfortunately your mentors have fought tooth & nail to replace the divine name with the title "Lord" whereas Jesus Christ @ John 17:6,26 exposed your mentors by calling his Father's name.. (Matthew 6:9, our Father who art in heaven Hallow be your name )

Psalms 110:1,Proves Jehovah is superior to Jesus Christ,
"Sit at my right hand"
Bros, who gives that Command?
Bros, who is obedient to that command?

Trinity shege

Jashub:
Bros, I have already placed my challenge. Take it and come back and tell me the story.

Peace.

Revelation 3:21, Bros, Jesus Christ is telling you something..... RECEIVE SENSE

Jashub:
But that is why I want you to stop calling Jesus and start calling YHWH when the demons come calling. Or is YHWH not strong enough?

Jashub:
Bros, I have already placed my challenge. Take it and come back and tell me the story.

Peace.

Jashub:
JW is a cult whose its founder started its origin from by reading the bible backward with a twist. To me, that makes JW just like Islam and Buddhism

Jashub:
[s][/s] It is not a contradiction because I said it in my last post that the Holy Spirit is mentioned in a handful of verses in the old testament. But I still stand on it to say, that God the Father is the main theme of the old testament. This is in your bible. Below is the screenshot of the message

Preciousgirl:



In the beginning was the Word....and the Word was God

Deal with it u vessel of the devil

You will die in your sins

Continue to console yourself with your Pastorpreneurs GIBBERISH
Precious girl is MISLED by Pastorpreneurs GIBBERISH..

In The original Greek language of the New Testament "@ John 1:1 " the word was a god in nature and essence (quality) ,Jesus the word is NOT the person who is God his Father".
Na where Precious girl is MISLED and confused



Eastern/Greek Orthodox Bible commentary notes:

"This second theos could also be translated 'divine' as the construction indicates "a qualitative sense for theos". The Word is not God in the sense that he is the same person as the theos mentioned in 1:1a; he is not God the Father (God absolutely as in common NT usage...)"

Source: Eastern/Greek Orthodox Bible, New Testament, 2009,p231

Preciousgirl:


Lying Cultist

Moses is not fit to Lace Jesus' shoes; ask John the Baptist

Jesus Christ is God Almighty, go and die

haddeylium:


Lady!
Truth could be this tormenting
Take it easy oo

Jashub:
[s][/s] Charles has wounded you spiritually. Wallahi

Jashub:
Na still Charley Boy dey run your mata.... But no worry. I can see how he will burn in hell for rejecting Jesus as his Lord and God

2 Corinthians 11:31
"The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying."

Jahshub LYING like kilode

Jashub:

For those who say Jesus is not your God, is it not written that those who call on the name of the Lord will be saved(Romans10:13)?

This day I challenge all hypocrites who say Jesus is not God Almighty to stop saying His name in prayer.
Start calling on the name of the Father or YHWH and see how the Devil will respond to you then come back and tell me the experience (that is if you will live to come back)
Peace.

enilove:


I can tell now that you are not a born again christian .

Every form of deceit is a sin. All this while you knew the truth but kept arguing for no reason.

You say there is contradictions in the Bible because you don't want to accept what is written therein.

You find it hard to say whether it was God the Father or not because you a not truthful.

livingchrist:
God the father was the main theme is not the question here but rather, did the other persons of the trinity existed side by side with the father yes or no? Again John told you the word was with God ,right?
And you lied in that regard, the holy spirit from Genesis to Malachi is several times mentioned. And again, you said the holy Spirit was a later manifestation right? Which means he was not old testament, how come he is mentioned numerous times in the old testament right from Genesis?
And again you said God took counsel from the Godhead, who then are the Godhead?
Is the father a person? Is the son a person? And is the holy Spirit a person?
If yes you have already defeated your blind argument, it would mean that God consulted persons not manifestations.

MaxInDHouse:

You don't just sit back and expect knowledge to come and meet you in your room, you have to go in search for it in fact you have to ask questions from people around you to be certain that you've not be misinformed. Paul the Apostle quoted the Bible book of Joel 2:32 there and if you want to be sure whether it's Jesus or JEHOVAH that Paul was referring to, just go back to your KJV and read Psalms 110:1 there you'll notice that two Lords were mentioned, David specified that one is greater than the other. Now your KJV indicates the one Paul was referring to because JEHOVAH'S name was replaced with the title Lord in most places in the KJV but it's in capital "LORD"


The idea of Jesus being the Almighty God has already been defeated long ago!
For the last 1800 years TRINITY has failed to make LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign in the midst of it's adherents, whereas God's word clearly stated that the first three evidence of God's holy spirit in the gathering of God's people is LOVE JOY and PEACE! Galatians 5:22-23

You will surely have the PEACE from God that surpasses all thoughts if you humbly listen to the truth {Philippians 4:7} that's what Jesus promised his true followers {John 14:27} the one and only group of people having such PEACE permeating their Organization globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION. Mind you Apostle Paul warned everyone saying When you notice these qualities actively working in any human gathering know that "against them there is no law" Galatians 5:23

WHY? Because these are the attributes of God's holy spirit so no human gathering can produce these FRUIT if God's holy spirit is not at work in such a gathering!

That's what Jesus meant when he said "a good tree will not produce routine fruit neither will a bad tree produce fine fruit" Matthew 7:18

No honest hearted and sincere individual will see these attributes of God's holy spirit actively working and say "it's the gathering of demonic spirits" because such an utterance will never be forgiven ~Jesus of Nazareth Luke 12:10

So if you find any group of religionists ridiculing the fine works of God's holy spirit {James 2:18-26} Please! Please!! Please!!!
Do not sit together with them! Psalms 1:1

May you have PEACE!

Jashub:
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MaxInDHouse:
The original post is there Sir!

It will remain on the internet as a testimony that you've gotten the opportunity to learn about facts but you shy away.

May you have PEACE!

Jashub:
[/s][s]Here are biblical examples of calling upon the name of the Lord.


Calling upon the name of the Lord

This phrase from Joel is found again in Romans 10:13 - "For whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved." An examination of the context will show that calling on the name of the Lord comes after hearing and believing the gospel (vs. 13-17). After affirming that whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved, Paul laments that "they have not all obeyed the gospel" (v. 16). "Calling on the name of the Lord" and "obeying the gospel" are synonymous in this passage. Thus, it is more than a verbal appeal to the Lord for salvation.

The Bible actually contains two specific accounts of individuals calling upon the name of the Lord. The first is in Acts 2. When these Jews heard the gospel, and believed that they had crucified the Lord(Jesus), they asked, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?" (v. 37). Peter had told them that those who call on the name of the Lord(Jesus) shall be saved. They were wanting to know how to do this. Peter responded, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (v. 38).

The second example occurs in Acts 22:16, which gives an account of the conversion of Saul. Ananias came to Saul and said, "And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Notice, in both of these accounts, submitting to the command of baptism was the means of calling upon the name of the Lord.

The Lord here is Jesus. Who according to Joel, is the only one capable to deliver from sin.


Lastly, I can see your are a poor history student; who is too eager to support Charles Russell Tuze that you forgot that His movement stemmed from these same Trinity doctrines(Please argue this with Google). If those doctrines were not peaceful, Charles would not even touch Christianity as a religion. And this is a fact.

Peace

MaxInDHouse:
Calling upon the name should produce something worthwhile in the midst of those making the calls Sir, so we don't have to go over such blind arguments again and again.

Jesus said those who got things right will shine as in will not go unnoticed {Matthew 5:13-16} so present a group of people performing better than JWs at least to show that Jesus is truly working out something tangible in the midst of his followers today! Matthew 28:20

As for Charles i don't think he condemned God's word Sir, what himself and his colleagues worked out is When and how did the churches went off course as in derailed from the teachings of Jesus Christ which supposed to make LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign in the midst of the adherents! Matthew 7:16-18

So they began making research upon research and today it's obvious that what that little group of researchers started around the 1870s has yielded great benefits as the world can see the global family of peace loving worshipers using the Bible to eradicate racism and hatred amongst the nations! Micah 4:1-3

I'm not interested in fruitless arguments Sir, what really matters to me and every right thinking person is the result of your faith! James 2:18-26


May you have PEACE!

Jashub:
Sorry to say this Charles was a disgruntled lad who did not like his church . So he created his own movement to run contrary to what Bible says. Which is why he said Jesus came secretly in the 1900s. And to me, this is pure bullshit

Jashub:
Oga, you seem to be inconsistent in everything and, I believe it stems from your basic understanding of English language.

When i casually used the word "theme", the word in this context was referring to was "the main speaker"(God the father). Hope you get me.

Now God is a tripartite being and I explain this earlier. Just scroll up and see it!


Now you did something foolish by saying I lied. Please how did I do this? Did I not make mention that the Holy Spirit is mentioned in a handful of old testament verses? Does the word " handful" now mean "theme"?

Look here : the point I raised was that God the Father, was the basic theme of the old testament. Which is why you have God the Father speaking basically through virtaully all the prophetic books written in the old testament. I butresss this point with the first five books of the Bible :Genesis, Exodus, Levitus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. Now who was basically speaking in those five books? Now answer with with the following :

A. God the Father

B. God the Son

C. God the Holy Spirit

D. All three

Once you answer this one, we will move on to the minor Prophets.


And I will show you again that God the Father is the basically the theme in the book of the minor Prophets.

Jashub:
I am not a born again because I refused to argue with you? Bros, I that is the lowest level of shame you should hide yourself under.

Jesus is God. And if you are not satisfied with those verses of the bible that say so, then kindly tear them out of your bible. It is that simple.

livingchrist:
you are the one that is not consistent honestly, I laugh when you said God is a tripartite being what do you mean? Always clarify yourself Jashub. Tripartite of what?
I asked you very simple questions come straight with it.
Are the the members of the trinity persons or not?
Did these person exist side by side?
Remember you said Jesus is the father, keep that in mind very soon you are going to see your folly, by the way the word God the father only came up in the new testament.
You have not clarified yourself on Genesis 1 vv 26 either.
God said let us create man in our image, so God using plural for himself does that not tell you God what God is?
John told you the word was with God right?

To your question since the son is the same as the father and the spirit, we can also say it was the son that was speaking in the old testament right?
Hebrews furthermore told you God has being speaking with diverse means, God spoke through prophets, partrachs and even angels.

So if the father is the main Theme of the old testament not the son or the spirit, interesting it would mean the father is not the same manifestation as the Son right?
Dont type in hurry, pause for a moment and think through it carefully

enilove:


A true Christian must be truthful in all things and be broken enough to admit fault and to take to corrections . But you don't want to admit the truth.

Secondly , I never said Jesus us not God. He is an Almighty God .
Jesus told us he is an Alpha and Omega , the beginning and the end . He also told us that he has a Father who is his God. Jesus said he is sitting right now at the right hand of his Father.

Simple . Why should someone say anything to the contrary ?

Accept the Bible as a whole and don't reject some and accept some parts .

Jashub:
When you answer the question I asked, buzz me. Okay

Jashub:
What is the situational context of the word like? Can you tell us its meaning here? Then I shall give you answer

MaxInDHouse:

Both Moses and Jesus "were"
© referred to as God
© rescued God's people
© mediators of covenant
© represented God
© meek in attitude
© died and angels took over their tomb
© performed mighty works
© without food for 40 day and 40 nights

Jashub:
[/s][s]Here are biblical examples of calling upon the name of the Lord.
Calling upon the name of the Lord
This phrase from Joel is found again in Romans 10:13 - "For whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved." An examination of the context will show that calling on the name of the Lord comes after hearing and believing the gospel (vs. 13-17). After affirming that whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved, Paul laments that "they have not all obeyed the gospel" (v. 16). "Calling on the name of the Lord" and "obeying the gospel" are synonymous in this passage. Thus, it is more than a verbal appeal to the Lord for salvation.
The Bible actually contains two specific accounts of individuals calling upon the name of the Lord. The first is in Acts 2. When these Jews heard the gospel, and believed that they had crucified the Lord(Jesus), they asked, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?" (v. 37). Peter had told them that those who call on the name of the Lord(Jesus) shall be saved. They were wanting to know how to do this. Peter responded, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (v. 38).
The second example occurs in Acts 22:16, which gives an account of the conversion of Saul. Ananias came to Saul and said, "And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Notice, in both of these accounts, submitting to the command of baptism was the means of calling upon the name of the Lord.
The Lord here is Jesus. Who according to Joel, is the only one capable to deliver from sin.
Lastly, I can see your are a poor history student; who is too eager to support Charles Russell Tuze that you forgot that His movement stemmed from these same Trinity doctrines(Please argue this with Google). If those doctrines were not peaceful, Charles would not even touch Christianity as a religion. And this is a fact.
Peace

livingchrist:
I have answered you now, I said the Son was the one speaking in the old testament since the father is the same as the son and the spirit.
So go back and address that post

Jashub:
I accept the Bible and its words. But what i do not accept if the foolish interpretations people give to scripture.

Why would you want me to accept that Jesus is not God Almighty when His name is basically what each and every believer prays in...? I have thrown my challenge to you and that joker(livingchrist) to pray in another name of God when battling with demons and see what becomes of you. Please do this and give me a feedback.



P. S: For your information, when you pray to something, that thing becomes your God. The Muslims who you criticize pray to Allah because they believe that Allah is their God. Haba! This is basic knowledge even idol worshippers know.

Jashub:
[s][/s] Wrong sire.

The manifestation (in the Physical ) of the Sonship starts with the arrival of Jesus. Consult the new testament for more on this.