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Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by vybzkartel: 7:26am On Dec 31, 2020 |
The word of God can't lie Luke 10:17-20 [17]Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.” [18]And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. [19]Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. [20]Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.” Our Lord Jesus said all these even before He died. He had Authority over all the power of Satan. So why do some people fear Satan like that? They give Satan preeminence . Satan is subject to Christ. Note that , in verse 17, the 70 reported that the demons were subject to the name Jesus. Jesus Christ is God, He controls creation. Halleluyah |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by pyyxxaro: 7:35am On Dec 31, 2020 |
Buhari |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by bingbagbo(m): 7:43am On Dec 31, 2020 |
Of course, God controls all things. He is in charge. If anyone says Satan is in charge then that person worships Satan Such persons don't understand what the Bible means by ......the ruler of this world Such persons are in darkness 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by enilove(m): 8:39am On Dec 31, 2020 |
The earth belongs to God : Psalm 24:1 KJV The earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. After the creation of the earth , God gave the management of it to man , but man lost it to Satan by obeying him instead of God . Since the time Adam fell till now , Satan has been ruling the earth . The largest populations of the earth are worshipping Satan directly or indirectly . The purpose of salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ is to save souls and destroy this world . It is because Satan is the ruler of this world that made him to ask for Jesus' worship : Matthew 4:8-9 KJV Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; [9] And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. This world is ruled or governed by Satan . |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by L0g1C(m): 8:49am On Dec 31, 2020 |
enilove:And when did the devil stop being a liar 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by illicit(m): 9:17am On Dec 31, 2020 |
Satan.... I met Jesus once but I have met Satan severally |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by DappaD: 9:18am On Dec 31, 2020 |
enilove: Hmmm make I no talk Cc: MaxInDHouse |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by bingbagbo(m): 9:38am On Dec 31, 2020 |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by bingbagbo(m): 9:41am On Dec 31, 2020 |
enilove: Lol Where in scripture did man give His authority to Satan? Yes, Adam and Eve disobeyed God, but the scriptures never say they handed any authority to Satan. Again, where in scripture does it say Satan rules THE EARTH? Do you know what that means? Read Romans 13:1 Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by shadeyinka(m): 10:15am On Dec 31, 2020 |
vybzkartel:As per this world, satan and the system of iniquity is at work and in control. As per the domain of a child of God, he is supposed to have dominion over every force of darkness around him. Unfortunately, 1. The average Christian is like a soldier or policeman who doesn't know the power of his rifle and probably doesn't know the authority he carries 2. God sent Christians to be the light of the world wherever they are but they are not expected to CHANGE the world. No one can change the world! |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by bigjackass: 10:23am On Dec 31, 2020 |
Omo the devil is commander in chief of this world. If you folks insist that Jesus is in charge then he is a poor ruler with little control over his subjects. What is the difference between him and buhari |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by oluwole70525: 11:14am On Dec 31, 2020 |
:And when did the devil stop being a liarGreat question, bless you 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by enilove(m): 12:11pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
L0g1C:Did I say the devil is no longer a liar ? |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by bingbagbo(m): 12:14pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
enilove: But u believe the devil when he says the kindoms of the earth had been given onto him Even though the scriptures call him the Father of lies |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by enilove(m): 12:18pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
bingbagbo: What does it mean to be the '' prince of this world '' ? Satan is the prince of this world : John 14:30 KJV Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. If God is the ruler of this world , why would Satan ask Jesus to bow to him b4 handing over the earth to him ? Did Jesus not say that his kingdom is not of this world ? John 18:36 KJV Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by enilove(m): 12:23pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
bingbagbo: Did Jesus deny this ? |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by Ihedinobi3: 1:00pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
vybzkartel: Hi there. Our Lord Jesus certainly has authority over Satan. The Bible is clear that He has been crowned King of all kings and Lord of all lords and that He has ascended to a position far above all every authority (Matthew 28:18; Ephesians 1:20-22; Philippians 2:9). But the Bible also says, Of David. A psalm. 1 The LORD says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I [begin to] make your enemies a footstool for your feet.” Psalms 110:1 (NIV) (compare Revelation 11:17) The Lord Jesus has not yet begun to reign, that is, although He has been made King, He has not yet started to exercise His Authority over all His Dominions. He Himself said to us: 30 I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me. John 14:30 (NKJV) (compare 2 Corinthians 4:4; 1 John 5:19) This world is in the wicked one. The spiritual system that rules over this planet is the kingdom of darkness (Colossians 1:13). When we are saved, we are rescued out of that kingdom and made citizens of a different Kingdom whose rule over the earth is yet to come (John 18:36). When this is said, people often recall what the Lord Jesus said: 20 Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, 21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is in your midst.” Luke 17:20-21 (NIV) But this only meant that the Head of that Kingdom was right there with the people with whom the Lord was speaking. Because we are citizens of that Kingdom now that we are saved, our presence in the world is exactly the same. The Kingdom of God is in this way among the people of this world, but only in the form of an invading force. That is why there is a war going on. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12 (NIV) 3 For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. 4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. 6 And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete. 2 Corinthians 10:3-6 (NIV) Christians are those who have been set free from Satan's kingdom and who are resisting being made slaves again and are helping to free others who wish to be freed from Satan's tyranny. But their Kingdom is not yet here on earth. They have to wait patiently for the day that it will come and destroy this other kingdom that is ruling over the world today. That is their job -- to wait and refuse to succumb to the threats and seductions of their old country and help one another in doing so. Thinking that, because their King is more powerful than Satan and has received the right to rule over the earth, they ought to take over the earth now is a recipe for disaster. Their King commands patience for now until the time when all their brothers and sisters have been rescued from Satan's hold. When Jesus returns, He will destroy Satan's kingdom and power and cleanse the earth of all evil rule. Until then, believers are to recognize that they are in enemy territory and not precipitate things that their Commander has not told them to precipitate. What we can take away from this is that we ought not to be afraid of Satan just because he is the ruler of this world. Our King is not only more powerful than him (much more powerful, in fact), He is also the rightful ruler of this world, even if He is not ruling yet. Another thing is that we should be patient. This world is ruled by an evil ruler, so it is not surprising that things are so bad in it. It is also ruled by a usurper, so we should not be surprised that it is cursed by God. But this will not continue forever. Not only will the Lord preserve us in the midst of the wickedness of this world as we continue to trust and follow Him, but He will also eventually destroy Satan's power and establish His Own Eternal Kingdom here. If we fail to wait patiently, then we will soon find ourselves imprisoned by Satan again when we move without our Commander's permission and protection. This is what is happening with many of the churches of this world today and what will happen overwhelmingly during the Tribulation. 18 Yet the LORD longs to be gracious to you; therefore he will rise up to show you compassion. For the LORD is a God of justice. Blessed are all who wait for him! Isaiah 30:18 (NIV) 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by MightySparrow: 2:17pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
bingbagbo:You mean jw worship satan? hian! |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by bingbagbo(m): 2:49pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MightySparrow: Yea |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by MightySparrow: 2:58pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
bingbagbo:Why na? Their god cowardly left the earth to be run by satan since 1914 Shey? 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:22pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
Better allow them to continue with their cut and join arguments, a JW's comment will provoke all of them now as if you've brought some sort of a plague into their arguments! DappaD: |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by Phraences: 3:25pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
Why are some people born deformed?? Some thoughts just tire me. |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by DappaD: 3:47pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: Read the comment en.ilove made above. Anybody who comes in contact with JWs must experience a positive impact/change in his/her thinking. |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by bingbagbo(m): 4:40pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MightySparrow: I tell you I pity JWs seriously |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:11pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
That's why i told you to leave them with their cut and join debate/argument if they want to know the truth all they need to do is ASK {Matthew 7:7] but if they think they know then it's OK let them go out there to preach and teach what they know! Matthew 28:19-20 DappaD: |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:15pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
So only JWs believe that Satan is the ruler of this world shey? John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19 Even many commentators believe Satan is in control with all the evidence we're seeing around us. But it's JWs that mustn't say anything shey? We hear you! cc DappaD bingbagbo: |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by DappaD: 9:32pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: You no see say them dey drag identity of their Holy Ghost for that other thread |
Re: Who Is Actually In Control Of The Earth, Jesus Or Satan? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:39pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
Can demons be HOLY? NO! They will continue with contradictions and confliction as long as they want to oppose JWs! Luke 11:23 DappaD: |
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