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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 12:30pm On Jan 03, 2021
Oasis007:
grin

José Mourinho: "Some players score ten goals a season on penalties. I'm not speaking about Harry Kane by the way."

- Sky
You can't win penalties if you are camped in your opponent's half.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 12:38pm On Jan 03, 2021
benji93:
As far as i am concerned it isn't.Sorry. cheesy grin
Ok
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Beorn: 12:43pm On Jan 03, 2021
BARAJ92:
if Bielsa was that great, Big clubs would have hired him

Was Ole great when he got hired by United?

How many titles has he won when we hired him? How many UCL did Lampard have when he was hired? Pirlo managing Juve, how many titles has he won as a coach when he got the Juve job? How many UCL as a COACH did Zidane and Pep have BEFORE Madrid and Barca respectively hired them?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 12:50pm On Jan 03, 2021
Beorn:


Was Ole great when he got hired by United?

How many titles has he won when we hired him? How many UCL did Lampard have when he was hired? Pirlo managing Juve, how many titles has he won as a coach when he got the Juve job? How many UCL as a COACH did Zidane and Pep have BEFORE Madrid and Barca respectively hired them?
What are you talking about. Ole won the title with Molde.

Before you belittle the Norwegian league, TrebleChamp said I should remind you that title is title

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 12:57pm On Jan 03, 2021
SyIvalord:
What are you talking about. Ole won the title with Molde.

Before you belittle the Norwegian league, TrebleChamp said I should remind you that title is title
Yes ooh, a manager can only win a competition he is competing for..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 1:00pm On Jan 03, 2021
Make OGS win EPL this oooh....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Beorn: 1:02pm On Jan 03, 2021
Lana1:
grin grin grin
They have been exposing their hypocrisy since yesterday.

Bielsa needs a certain quality of players to excel. All managers are allowed to buy players.
But it's Ole that should have conquered the world with Lingard and Pereira. cheesy

They should keep waiting for Ole to manage Bolton. grin grin


Like Afrodöc2 told you, yours is an agenda-driven argument not logical. It's clear you're making this discussion a OleIn VS OleOut argument. Well, none of that concerns me as I hardly comment here and you can count the number of times I've commented here in the past 5 months.

When OGS relagated Cardiff, did you see pundits hitting him hard with scathing criticisms? Did he get dragged on SM like a Tiger generator? Nobody really bothered except Cardiff fans because Cardiff is a small club.

But when Ole joined a big club, the criticisms came. It was no longer business as usual. Despite Bielsa losing to us 6-2 pundits didn't criticize him that much because Leeds are a small team punching above their weights. United are not Leeds. If Bielsa was our coach and giving us the inconsistent results Ole and the team had given us, he'd get dragged more than Ole sef coz of his reputation.

It's not about hypocrisy or whatever excuse you're bringing up, but simply because to whom much is given, much is expected. OGS is not coaching Leeds, he's coaching United and like all his predecessors post-Fergie, he will be in the eye of the storm. It comes with the territory. He won't be exempted because he has Lingard and Jones, Moyes and co had them and they weren't spared.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Uniquisite: 1:04pm On Jan 03, 2021

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Beorn: 1:05pm On Jan 03, 2021
SyIvalord:
What are you talking about. Ole won the title with Molde.

Before you belittle the Norwegian league, TrebleChamp said I should remind you that title is title

I know he won title with Molde, but it doesn't make him a great coach. RDM won a UCL with Chelshit, is he a great coach?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:08pm On Jan 03, 2021
patrickmuf:
City have a blunt attack with Aguero not always available so they're going to drop points often especially against teams that defend deep.

Their defense has improved massively though...And yes, a draw will be the best result...
Yeah a draw is the best outcome
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:11pm On Jan 03, 2021
afrodoc2:
We are 18th in crosses in the league. Just too poor. We are not utilizing our FBs appropriately. With a player like Cavani in our squad we need to do more in that regards.
I remember when Telles came and people said he would be crossing. Well it didn't take more than 2 matches for him to revert to the default setting of the team. Ole does not encourage crossing unless there's no other way. He prefers the attacking the ball through the middle and that's what the team is about
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 1:16pm On Jan 03, 2021
Beorn:


I know he won title with Molde, but it doesn't make him a great coach. RDM won a UCL with Chelshit, is he a great coach?
Is it that even you don’t understand the things you type? Or is that you just hate Ole so much so you are ready to say anything to spite him. This is what you said in the other post I quoted

Beorn:


Was Ole great when he got hired by United?

How many titles has he won when we hired him? How many UCL did Lampard have when he was hired? Pirlo managing Juve, how many titles has he won as a coach when he got the Juve job? How many UCL as a COACH did Zidane and Pep have BEFORE Madrid and Barca respectively hired them?
The bolded part above is the part I picked up. You were wrong there and I had to remind you because according to Treblechamp, title is title. So why you con dey change am dey talk about greatness? Na so greatness dey easy to achieve? Is Bielsa a great coach? What has he done that can be regarded as a great feat?

Anyway, the point is Ole has won titles and trophies before coming to Manchester United. That is just what I was trying to correct. Accept that and stop trying to turn amala.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 1:19pm On Jan 03, 2021
TrebleChamp:
Yes ooh, a manager can only wiin a competition he is competing for..
Abi.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 1:24pm On Jan 03, 2021
SyIvalord:
What are you talking about. Ole won the title with Molde.

Before you belittle the Norwegian league, TrebleChamp said I should remind you that title is title
You too like wahala grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 1:25pm On Jan 03, 2021
Una don turn Shekpites thread to wasteland grin grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay(m): 1:26pm On Jan 03, 2021
eph12:

I remember when Telles came and people said he would be crossing. Well it didn't take more than 2 matches for him to revert to the default setting of the team. Ole does not encourage crossing unless there's no other way. He prefers the attacking the ball through the middle and that's what the team is about

Yea. People have realised now. And to think Shaw has the ability to be playing crosses too and he doesn't do it means, he's playing to instruction and Ole is not a fan of Cross and Insha Allah.

It's now becoming clear that Telles was brought in due to Shaw's penchant for getting injured always and doesn't want to revert to an inexperienced Williams as a back up like last season, and not necessarily because he wants Telles due to his crossing ability
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:31pm On Jan 03, 2021
Man Utd have had great players

https://twitter.com/hxnz99/status/1323690579277000704?s=21

Only Pogba and Bruno can do this in this current team

Elampiro see your guy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 1:32pm On Jan 03, 2021
Beorn:



Like Afrodöc2 told you, yours is an agenda-driven argument not logical. It's clear you're making this discussion a OleIn VS OleOut argument. Well, none of that concerns me as I hardly comment here and you can count the number of times I've commented here in the past 5 months.

When OGS relagated Cardiff, did you see pundits hitting him hard with scathing criticisms? Did he get dragged on SM like a Tiger generator? Nobody really bothered except Cardiff fans because Cardiff is a small club.

But when Ole joined a big club, the criticisms came. It was no longer business as usual. Despite Bielsa losing to us 6-2 pundits didn't criticize him that much because Leeds are a small team punching above their weights. United are not Leeds. If Bielsa was our coach and giving us the inconsistent results Ole and the team had given us, he'd get dragged more than Ole sef coz of his reputation.
No he wont actually. At least not on this thread. Because NL pundits and Ole haters have told us that they dont mind watching us concede 3 goals every now and then as long as we play high octane football like Leeds. grin grin

It's not about hypocrisy or whatever excuse you're bringing up, but simply because to whom much is given, much is expected. OGS is not coaching Leeds, he's coaching United and like all his predecessors post-Fergie, he will be in the eye of the storm. It comes with the territory. He won't be exempted because he has Lingard and Jones, Moyes and co had them and they weren't spared.
I never said that no one should drag Ole. But NL pundits and United shareholders were always coming here and telling us to see Rodgers and what he is doing with Soyuncu and Johnny Evans. In their infinte wisdom, they told us Ole didn't need to buy players and that the team was good and he should use the players at his disposal to challenge City and Liverpool.

I dont now understand why they are making a u-turn omn their own logic and are now telling us Bielsa needs better players and a better team.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Beorn: 1:38pm On Jan 03, 2021
SyIvalord:

Is it that even you don’t understand the things you type? Or is that you just hate Ole so much so you are ready to say anything to spite him. This is what you said in the other post I quoted

The bolded part above is the part I picked up. You were wrong there and I had to remind you because according to Treblechamp, title is title. So why you con dey change am dey talk about greatness? Na so greatness dey easy to achieve? Is Bielsa a great coach? What has he done that can be regarded as a great feat?

Anyway, the point is Ole has won titles and trophies before coming to Manchester United. That is just what I was trying to correct. Accept that and stop trying to turn amala.


Go back and read the person that quoted me first whom I replied and see if he mentioned "great coach" or not before coming to type this epistle to me.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 1:40pm On Jan 03, 2021
Leyqute:
Man Utd have had great players

https://twitter.com/hxnz99/status/1323690579277000704?s=21

Only Pogba and Bruno can do this in this current team

Elampiro see your guy
Peak Rooney was something else. It's a shame he didn't take care of his body properly like them Zlatan and Ronaldo. He could have been playing at this level till 36 - 37
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Beorn: 1:43pm On Jan 03, 2021
Lana1:
No he wont actually. At least not on this thread. Because NL pundits and Ole haters have told us that they dont mind watching us concede 3 goals every now and then as long as we play high octane football like Leeds. grin grin

I never said that no one should drag Ole. But NL pundits and United shareholders were always coming here and telling us to see Rodgers and what he is doing with Soyuncu and Johnny Evans. In their infinte wisdom, they told us Ole didn't need to buy players and that the team was good and he should use the players at his disposal to challenge City and Liverpool.

I dont now understand why they are making a u-turn omn their own logic and are now telling us Bielsa needs better players and a better team.


It's obvious there are certain people you had in mind when you brought this issue up, I'm not amongst them, I was only trying to defend Bielsa when it seemed he was suppose to win top EPL teams simply because he's the almighty Bielsa.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 1:50pm On Jan 03, 2021
Beorn:



It's obvious there are certain people you had in mind when you brought this issue up, I'm not amongst them, I was only trying to defend Bielsa when it seemed he was suppose to win top EPL teams simply because he's the almighty Bielsa.
Well, in an effort to spite Ole, we were also told Leeds would be a problem for top EPL teams this season. They are yet to win any top team. grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Beorn: 1:54pm On Jan 03, 2021
Lana1:
Well, in an effort to spite Ole, we were also told Leeds would be a problem for top EPL teams this season. They are yet to win any top team. grin grin


Well, they are level on points with Arsenal, a big club, and just 3 points behind 6th place Chelshit, and sitting pretty safe above some experienced EPL teams, so they're doing well for their status and experience.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nani667: 2:06pm On Jan 03, 2021
#OleOUT

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 2:07pm On Jan 03, 2021
Lana1:
You too like wahala grin grin
If I didn’t add that, he would have surely belittled the Norwegian league. Treblechamp wouldn’t like that. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 2:09pm On Jan 03, 2021
Beorn:



Go back and read the person that quoted me first whom I replied and see if he mentioned "great coach" or not before coming to type this epistle to me.
Bros that one concern you. No talk am for outside again say Ole never win trophies. Dem go laugh you oo. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 2:11pm On Jan 03, 2021
Nobody dey talk say Bielsa no be good coach. But no dey use Bielsa spite Ole. You can hail the greatness of Bielsa without mentioning Ole.
Beorn:



Well, they are level on points with Arsenal, a big club, and just 3 points behind 6th place Chelshit, and sitting pretty safe above some experienced EPL teams, so they're doing well for their status and experience.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 2:17pm On Jan 03, 2021
eph12:

I remember when Telles came and people said he would be crossing. Well it didn't take more than 2 matches for him to revert to the default setting of the team. Ole does not encourage crossing unless there's no other way. He prefers the attacking the ball through the middle and that's what the team is about

But if like you said the coach doesn't encourage crossing, it could also be a reason the likes of Telles have not been crossing as expected. Thereby making us 18th in crossing like doc said.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:21pm On Jan 03, 2021
timay:


Yea. People have realised now. And to think Shaw has the ability to be playing crosses too and he doesn't do it means, he's playing to instruction and Ole is not a fan of Cross and Insha Allah.

It's now becoming clear that Telles was brought in due to Shaw's penchant for getting injured always and doesn't want to revert to an inexperienced Williams as a back up like last season, and not necessarily because he wants Telles due to his crossing ability
There's no evidence in our game to show that crossing is an option. I believe the team will work on this and get better with it. But I don't want us to be the cross merchant lfc and cfc is. God forbid
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:32pm On Jan 03, 2021
codedguy1:


But if like you said the coach doesn't encourage crossing, it could also be a reason the likes of Telles have not been crossing as expected. Thereby making us 18th in crossing like doc said.

Yes that's what I said. For some reason, crossing is not an option if the players can pass backwards grin

Maybe it's because Ole doesn't trust his strikers to get into positions or that they'll prefer to receive the ball on their feet instead of rushing into the box to contest headers. They only do that if it's a counter I think
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay(m): 2:35pm On Jan 03, 2021
eph12:

There's no evidence in our game to show that crossing is an option. I believe the team will work on this and get better with it. But I don't want us to be the cross merchant lfc and cfc is. God forbid

Yea. Same here too. I hate that cross and Insha Allah thing. It's a lazy attempt at creating chances, especially when done in excess. It's not as if we don't cross, but we only do it when it is absolutely necessary. Not like Liverpool players that can cross the ball from virtually every part of the field. That crossing shit is nauseating to watch at times

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 2:45pm On Jan 03, 2021
benji93:
Nobody dey talk say Bielsa no be good coach. But no dey use Bielsa spite Ole. You can hail the greatness of Bielsa without mentioning Ole.
I mean. Issa simple sturvs.

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