So I was engaged in a discussion with a jw friend
And he left me in stitches

I asked him if God is All-Knowing

To my utter shock, he told me NO

I asked him to prove with Scriptures and he cited this:

Genesis 22:11-12

[11]But the Angel of the Lord called to him from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!” So he said, “Here I am.”

[12]And He said, “Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.”

According to him, the bolded implies that God doesn't know ALL things as popularly believed

JWs won't kill me oooo


Well,. Maybe they don't see the following in their concocted NEW WORLD ORDER TRanslation:

O LORD, you have searched me and known me. You know when I sit down and when I rise up; [/b]you discern my thoughts from far away. You search out my path and my lying down, and are acquainted with all my ways. Even before a word is on my tongue, O LORD, you know it completely. You hem me in, behind and before, and lay your hand upon me. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is so high that I cannot attain it (Psalm 139:1-6).

Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; his understanding is infinite (Psalm 147:5).

For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things (1 John 3:20).

[b]The eyes of the LORD are in every place, keeping watch on the evil and the good (Proverbs 15:3).

wondrous works of him who is perfect in knowledge (Job 37:16).

For he knows those who are worthless, and he sees iniquity without investigating (Job 11:11).

Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him. For I have chosen him, so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is right and just, so that the LORD will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him (Genesis 18:18,19).

And they say, "How can God know? Is there knowledge in the Most High?" Such are the wicked; always at ease, they increase in riches (Psalm 73:11,12).

You may choose to use your head like the JWs or remain otherwise. Why did God have to test him if he knew already that he was faithful? Did God know that Eve and Adam were going to eat the forbidden fruit beforehand? Why did God say He "regretted creating man" in Gen. 6:6? Did God know that one of his angels would turn to Satan beforehand?

Oga use your head o

christian god is n0t all kn0wing and fears. . .the jw is right though . . . . . Laughing . . Mumu people . . A dey wait catholic to quote their bible o

God chooses to know what ever he want to know.... remember the story of lot, he sends his Angles there to check if there's a righteous person there before he destroyed the city.....he choose not to know that part.

The three in one God of the Christians are a contradiction when it comes to being omniscient.

The father is all-knowing but not the son and the spirit.

Mark 13:32
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

God knows all things

Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength;
His understanding is infinite.

1 John 3:20
in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.

Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.

But how will God regret when He knows everything beforehand?

Genesis 6:6
The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.

Some of them no strong,why you come dey burst their code Badt guy..

Na so one man confused one ,when I dey park dey travel one day. I had to help her out,cux the man was ready to confuse d anty with scriptures.. I just like them for one thing,that walking around inside sun and rain. E no easy ,them dey try

I nor sabi talk for this kind matter

JEHOVAH is Holy and because of this he decided not to continue looking at all the things humans are doing because it will cause him grief!

There are so many instances that proves he is not all knowing. The case of Abraham mentioned is one, think of what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah where he said "their reports have come to me but i want to go out there and VERIFY" Genesis 18:20-21

Habakkuk said God's eyes are too pure to look unto evil deeds {Habakkuk 1:13} definitely there are many things happening that he's not even aware. But his angels are monitoring the activities of his people globally, they're the ones returning to give him reports of what's happening in all the corners of the earth!

So your JW friend was right it's not that God is not capable of knowing everything but he only restricted himself to certain things because as Habakkuk puts it His eyes are too pure to look unto evil and that's what is happening everywhere today!

May you have PEACE!

DoubleEngine007:
Some of them no strong,why you come dey burst their code Badt guy..

Na so one man confused one ,when I dey park dey travel one day. I had to help her out,cux the man was ready to confuse d anty with scriptures.. I just like them for one thing,that walking around inside sun and rain. E no easy ,them dey try

Their god Satan doesn't know all things

vybzkartel:





Their god Satan doesn't know all things

Who told you that Satan is their god

I don't know what you are talking about bros

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH is Holy and because of this he decided not to continue looking at all the things humans are doing because it will cause him grief!

There are so many instances that proves he is not all knowing. [/b]The case of Abraham mentioned is one, think of what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah where he said [b]"their reports have come to me but i want to go out there and VERIFY" Genesis 18:20-21

Habakkuk said God's eyes are too pure to look unto evil deeds {Habakkuk 1:13} definitely there are many things happening that he's not even aware. But his angels are monitoring the activities of his people globally, they're the ones returning to give him reports of what's happening in all the corners of the earth!

So your JW friend was right it's not that God is not capable of knowing everything but he only restricted himself to certain things because as Habakkuk puts it His eyes are too pure to look unto evil and that's what is happening everywhere today!

May you have PEACE!

Well, that is your god, he is not all knowing

But my God Jesus Christ is all knowing


John 16:30-31

[30] [b]Now we are sure that You know all things, [/b]and have no need that anyone should question You. By this we believe that You came forth from God.”
[31]Jesus answered them, “Do you now believe?

vybzkartel:




Well, that is your god, he is not all knowing

But my God Jesus Christ is all knowing


John 16:30-31

[30] [b]Now we are sure that You know all things, [/b]and have no need that anyone should question You. By this we believe that You came forth from God.”
[31]Jesus answered them, “Do you now believe?

LIAR
Is Matthew 24:36 in your Bible?

You claim to follow Jesus, but you proved you have ZERO faith in Jesus words

Continue DECEIVING yourself twisting the disciples statement

Janosky:


LIAR
Is Matthew 24:36 in your Bible?

You claim to follow Jesus, but you proved you have ZERO faith in Jesus words

Continue DECEIVING yourself twisting the disciples statement

C y I say u pple are anti-christ and evil. How can God not be all knowing. By saying so, u have limited God's power. Making him not all powerful.

Dnt read one scripture n make a doctrine out of it.

Lying JW

You're really trying in fighting for your God but i'll like you to try reading the Bible thoroughly from cover to cover and prayerfully meditate on each verse. The big book contains 66 little books, 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses.
The book was written by 40 different men (all from Israel) they were inspired by the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
So try to be efficient in handling this big book in order not to be put to shame while reading aloud a text out of context and someone quote another verse for you only for you to become confused when you can't figure out why such is found in the same book!
God bless you!

vybzkartel:


Well, that is your god, he is not all knowing
But my God Jesus Christ is all knowing
John 16:30-31
[30] [b]Now we are sure that You know all things, [/b]and have no need that anyone should question You. By this we believe that You came forth from God.”
[31]Jesus answered them, “Do you now believe?

The title "ALMIGHTY" is what you haven't figured out!
Perhaps you open a thread on that and let's discuss on the topic "What does the title "ALMIGHTY" entails?"
Mind you the title bearer must have total control not only on other beings but on himself and knows the best thing to do in every situation!
May you have PEACE!

freshboi88:

C y I say u pple are anti-christ and evil. How can God not be all knowing. By saying so, u have limited God's power. Making him not all powerful.
Dnt read one scripture n make a doctrine out of it. Lying JW

MaxInDHouse:
The title "ALMIGHTY" is what you haven't figured out!
Perhaps you open a thread on that and let's discuss on the topic "What does the title "ALMIGHTY" entails?"
Mind you the title bearer must have total control not only on other beings but on himself and knows the best thing to do in every situation!
May you have PEACE!

But u say he is not all knowing. How can Almighty not be All knowing. Nah Igbo dey Ur brain

freshboi88:

But u say he is not all knowing. How can Almighty not be All knowing.

That is why you need to calm down and listen!

Nah Igbo dey Ur brain

Your abuses, insults and curses won't give you the answer you're seeking, presently the true God is not all knowing, what you need is ask WHY not abusively but with mild temper and deep respect as befitting a true Christian! 1Peter 3:15

May you have PEACE!

vybzkartel:


So I was engaged in a discussion with a jw friend
And he left me in stitches ;DI asked him if God is All-KnowingTo my utter shock, he told me NO
I asked him to prove with Scriptures and he cited this:Genesis 22:11-12[11]But the Angel of the Lord called to him from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!” So he said, “Here I am.”[12]And He said, “Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.”
According to him, the bolded implies that God doesn't know ALL things as popularly believed
JWs won't kill me oooo ;DWell,. Maybe they don't see the following in their concocted NEW WORLD ORDER TRanslation:O LORD, you have searched me and known me. You know when I sit down and when I rise up; [/b]you discern my thoughts from far away. You search out my path and my lying down, and are acquainted with all my ways. Even before a word is on my tongue, O LORD, you know it completely. You hem me in, behind and before, and lay your hand upon me. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is so high that I cannot attain it (Psalm 139:1-6).Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; his understanding is infinite (Psalm 147:5).
For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things (1 John 3:20).
[b]The eyes of the LORD are in every place, keeping watch on the evil and the good (Proverbs 15:3).wondrous works of him who is perfect in knowledge (Job 37:16).[/b]For he knows those who are worthless, and he sees iniquity without investigating (Job 11:11).Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him. For I have chosen him, so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is right and just, so that the LORD will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him (Genesis 18:18,19).
[b]And they say, "How can God know? Is there knowledge in the Most High?" Such are the wicked; always at ease, they increase in riches (Psalm 73:11,12).

Jehovah God is the Almighty(Genesis 17:1)
That means he uses his unlimited power in a controlled manner—not just anyhow he likes. Isaiah 40:26, Revelation 15:3

But he is neither omnipresent nor omniscient—because if he was, he wouldn't have created Adam in the first place since he MUST'VE known that Adam would sin and bring suffering & death upon all humans. Then it would mean that humans weren't the ones at fault in the first place and that since God “knew” humans would sin, he still created them nevertheless. You see how this turns into an endless loop.

Some people might misunderstand Bible verses like 2Chronicles 16:9, Proverbs 15:3 & Hebrews 4:13 but those scriptures simply highlight the fact that nothing can be hidden from God when he chooses to investigate for himself, like he did in the times of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Genesis 18:21

It is worthy to note at this point that Jehovah himself is righteous, holy and perfect in all ramifications. Deuteronomy 32:4, 2Samuel 22:31, Revelation 4:8
It is the human beings who have rejected God's wise counsel/direction and subjected themselves to many injurious things that God cannot bring himself to watch and observe.
Deuteronomy 32:5, Ecclesiastes 7:29, Habakkuk 1:13

DoubleEngine007:
Who told you that Satan is their god

I don't know what you are talking about bros

Pentecostals are doing more harm to Christianity than the JW guys. But their self righteous Pharisee upbringing will never let them know.

freshboi88:


C y I say u pple are anti-christ and evil. How can God not be all knowing. By saying so, u have limited God's power. Making him not all powerful.

Dnt read one scripture n make a doctrine out of it.

Lying JW

By your logic because God can do all things then He can lie (God forbid), right?

MaxInDHouse:

That is why you need to calm down and listen!



Your abuses, insults and curses won't give you the answer you're seeking, presently the true God is not all knowing, what you need is ask WHY not abusively but with mild temper and deep respect as befitting a true Christian! 1Peter 3:15

May you have PEACE!

after i finished u and dappaD in the other thread u still have mouth to talk here. joker

HedwigesMaduro:


By your logic because God can do all things then He can lie (God forbid), right?

God can do all things. Will God lie NO!.

Was Jesus capable of turning stone to bread? YES!

Did he turn stone to bread? No!

Does it mean he cannot turn stone to bread. Absolutely not!!!


So what is your point

freshboi88:


C y I say u pple are anti-christ and evil. How can God not be all knowing. By saying so, u have limited God's power. Making him not all powerful.

[s]Dnt read one scripture n make a doctrine out of it.

Lying JW[/s]

Mr fresh TWISTER, Matthew 24:36 , Jesus Christ is a son of his Father..
Jesus says "ONLY his Father knows the Day and the Hour"

Jesus doesn't know, neither the angels.

Please desist from making FALSE claims

freshboi88:


God can do all things. Will God lie NO!.

Was Jesus capable of turning stone to bread? YES!

Did he turn stone to bread? No!

Does it mean he cannot turn stone to bread. Absolutely not!!!


So what is your point

Fresh TWISTER, First point, John 20:17, did Jesus tell you himself is God Almighty?

2nd point, God is capable of knowing all things

According to your Bible, Genesis 22:12, when did God knew that Abraham "fear God"?
"Do not lay a hand on the boy," he said. "Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God".
Fresh TWISTER,

Christianity (all the iteration) is just a joke...

Janosky:


Fresh TWISTER, First point, John 20:17, did Jesus tell you himself is God Almighty?

2nd point, God is capable of knowing all things

According to your Bible, Genesis 22:12, when did God knew that Abraham "fear God"?
"Do not lay a hand on the boy," he said. "Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God".
Fresh TWISTER,

Yes Jesus did. Rev 1:8

freshboi88:


God can do all things. Will God lie NO!.

Was Jesus capable of turning stone to bread? YES!

Did he turn stone to bread? No!

Does it mean he cannot turn stone to bread. Absolutely not!!!


So what is your point

What you just posted was the exact point of the guy you were arguing with in the first place. Read his post without aggression and you'll see it.

It's not about finishing your fellowman my friend, it's about pure worship and those practicing it. So if you've found them try to help other interested persons locate their gathering because there are many false prophets out there deceiving billions and enslaving them in false religions.
The only help a real follower of Jesus can do now is direct such humble ones to the gathering of holy ones.
May you have PEACE!

freshboi88:

after i finished u and dappaD in the other thread u still have mouth to talk here. joker

He is after winning arguments that's why i pity him due to his heart condition, even with all the attributes of God's holy spirit the aggression will blur his mind from learning anything profitable!

HedwigesMaduro:

What you just posted was the exact point of the guy you were arguing with in the first place. Read his post without aggression and you'll see it.

The highlighted is from his religious teachers, but i wonder why they don't tell them how to locate the gathering of holy ones where God's holy spirit is actively working out something benefitial!

Now he's speaking against God's people without considering what to expect from God's people.

Jesus said many will refer to his true disciples as SATANISTS! {Matthew 10:25} so we are always happy to hear them say this as it's the fulfilment of our Master's words! John 17:14

DoubleEngine007:

Who told you that Satan is their god
I don't know what you are talking about bros

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH is Holy and because of this he decided not to continue looking at all the things humans are doing because it will cause him grief!

There are so many instances that proves he is not all knowing. The case of Abraham mentioned is one, think of what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah where he said "their reports have come to me but i want to go out there and VERIFY" Genesis 18:20-21

Habakkuk said God's eyes are too pure to look unto evil deeds {Habakkuk 1:13} definitely there are many things happening that he's not even aware. But his angels are monitoring the activities of his people globally, they're the ones returning to give him reports of what's happening in all the corners of the earth!

So your JW friend was right it's not that God is not capable of knowing everything but he only restricted himself to certain things because as Habakkuk puts it His eyes are too pure to look unto evil and that's what is happening everywhere today!

May you have PEACE!

This is how Christian discussion should be. But many JW argue with insults because of the pride of the belief that they are the only sect that are Christians.

HedwigesMaduro:


Pentecostals are doing more harm to Christianity than the JW guys. But their self righteous Pharisee upbringing will never let them know.

No sect in Christianity is so full of self-righteousness like Jehovah's witnesses. They may not tell you oh ha , that they are the only righteous sect.
Every other Christians are refered to as Christiandom , they refer to themselves alone as Christians.

The way JW guys attack and respond to comments shows them as self-righteous.

Too bad