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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by omoharry(f): 11:13pm On Jan 08, 2021
RisenPhoenix1:
Too simplistic and very untrue. Many Nigerian men go abroad on study or professional work visas, work hard without marrying white women for papers, and come back home to marry because they realise that akata girls have little value marriage-wise. Some genuinely want to marry akata girls when they start dating them, but their eyes quickly open; it's not like they deliberately go around breaking hearts. About the only thing you're right on is the dog-eat-dog mentality of Nigerian girls once they get their papers abroad and start to understand the powers that Western governments mistakenly give them. They become something else.

But marrying akata girls is not the solution. Like their white counterparts, they are wayward and divorce prone; ending up with all the man's wealth at the end of the day. No. The solution is to marry home based Nigerian girls, but never to relocate your family abroad until your children are at least at college level. Personally, I cannot let my kids out of Nigeria except on the occasional holidays; until they get to post grad at the minimum. For me personally, relocating anywhere is a no no. Nigeria is good enough for me. I hate stress.
Nigeria is good for you ? You must be living comfortably here

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by 0taPiaPia(m): 11:15pm On Jan 08, 2021
Chimaokigwe:
I just pity that foolish Trayceey girl who opened a thread to cry that her boyfriend did not buy bread for her mother. Them don use insult rinse her mama.

grin grin grin
Bros you wicked oh.. u carry that matter reach this side.. she didn't expect such backlash and I dey pray make she no attempt Suicide.

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by erico2k2(m): 11:15pm On Jan 08, 2021
Hotbutt:
How I wish I can travel abroad even if it's for a day.
oyah nah abroad person wants ur number if nah U dey the dp
Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by Chamladas: 11:16pm On Jan 08, 2021
Who writes with so much apostrophes? Arrgh embarassed
Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by Nobody: 11:16pm On Jan 08, 2021
Hintona:


On nairaland or in real life?

No difference -in fact on Nairaland are realest grin grin grin
Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by Chimaokigwe: 11:17pm On Jan 08, 2021
0taPiaPia:


grin grin grin
Bros you wicked oh.. u carry that matter reach this side.. she didn't expect such backlash and I dey pray make she no attempt Suicide.

Na God go punish that useless Trayceey. See as she attract curses and eternal disgrace to her family. Her entire family dey cry for 1 loaf of bread.

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by optimusprime2(m): 11:17pm On Jan 08, 2021
Drenimarcus:
In this age, only a fool will scam people for papers to bring a Nigerian lady over. I can not wrap my head on that. There was a case of a guy who petitioned for his wife from naija(been married for 2 years or 3 i think), she waited till she got the visa, came in and got the 10 years right away,changed her address on file and sent "mr man" divorce papers. Keep bringing them over and they will keep absconding here. Muntula set of people.
grin
You'd be surprised, you'd be surprised...

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by sweetmelanin(f): 11:18pm On Jan 08, 2021
RisenPhoenix1:


Yes, twice. Though in all honesty, from the very beginning, I had no intention of marrying either one when I dated them. There was a very big difference between their approach to dating and life and that of home based girls.

My point exactly!

You entered those relationships with a preconceived notion that those ladies aren't worthy of marriage simply based on the fact that they aren't "home-based" girls... there is nothing either of those poor women could've done to change your prejudice mindset. You are definitely a 'category 1' brother!

If I may ask, what were the different approaches to dating you observed? (your last point)

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by Chi133(f): 11:19pm On Jan 08, 2021
Category 2: Those who used and dumped white women for papers and then brought their "ungrateful Nigerian wives" abroad.

Men who are desperate for papers often opt for the easy way out: marrying an older white woman (and in some cases a poor unsuspecting black woman from another African country who has papers) ... they do this with the mindset that they would bring their "real wife" from Nigeria.
Now when their 'wife' divorces them.. these men will scream betrayal, forgetting the trail of heartbreaks they've left behind.. Now how do such men think they will use a foreign woman, break her heart, and yet live happily ever after with an imported bride?? how??

In summary,

When I hear stories of bitter divorces and men killing their spouse whom they brought from Nigeria I can't help but think this could've been avoided if they focused on settling with a so called "akata". Yes, she may not feign fake 'submission' like home-based Nigerian chicks, but what makes her less likely to 'betray' or mess you up is the absence of entitlement mentality.
...someone coming directly from Nigeria typically has a dog eat dog mentality caused by an oppressive system of lack. Whereas an abroad based chick already learns not to depend on a man from as early as 16 - 17 years of age.. most already have part time jobs as students and know the value of working for their money.. they won't take crap but at least what you see is what you get.. abroad based girls (akatas) are not angels but are far better than the pretenders back home y'all believe are "wife materials".. but people generally hold on to an illusion over what is real.

Most of the foreign women won’t even agree to come home with them some will even refuse to give birth. So in these situation if he is to be your brother you won’t allow him to marry from Nigeria and have his own family? Even here in Nigeria men marry more than one
Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by hibeebeeking: 11:22pm On Jan 08, 2021
Eve gave Adam apple,they ate it and their eyes open. They were now looking for a hidden place where their creator will not see them. Women will push you to a frustration level ,till you loose control. If you like take them to the dark side of the moon,sow all the seed you should sow to God,even take them from your village to banana island. You have not done anything. Men,just use your senses,so they will not push you to land of no RETURE.

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by MOVIC6: 11:23pm On Jan 08, 2021
I don’t understand this post a bit
Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by Nobody: 11:25pm On Jan 08, 2021
Maybe because Nigerian girls are behaving like the akatas, so why not pick a good partner where u are, as there's no advantage to it anymore .

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by Mcslize: 11:26pm On Jan 08, 2021
Leebeedo:


It's wrong to make a generalization based on just one or few cases you witnessed. I brought my girl over to the USA and everything has been smooth. I was scared though, but marriage no be by being smart, just pray you don't meet the wrong one cos you can meet them when you're based in Nigerian as well.

For how long now? Has it been up to 5yrs? Cuz people change over time.

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by nedekid: 11:26pm On Jan 08, 2021
angelfallz:


Lol, it's unfortunate that you've only been meeting terrible women in your life. So, I know it would sound strange when I tell you that there are women with good character attitude.
So you think.
There is no Eldorado with women. There is nothing like women with good and perfect character. The situation and environment brings out characters even from the most saintly. When the chips are down you may know who is who. The worst can even end up being the best.
"Lol, it's unfortunate that you've only been meeting terrible women in your life"
How long have you been married to determine (ie if you are) if you as a person have been fortunate to meet only perfect women with good characters?
5,10,15,20 years?
Anyway, you will learn over time..

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by omotolarunsewe: 11:28pm On Jan 08, 2021
When you bring a woman abroad make sure you ready to treat her like an African queen.don’t let her help out in paying any bills.make sure you have a good job or business,take good care of her. Go on vacations,Don’t cheat on her.she will always remain your queen.my wife came here 14 years ago and she still remain my adorable wife. Be smart and never get jealous when she start making her own $$$

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by Nobody: 11:39pm On Jan 08, 2021
sweetmelanin:


My point exactly!

You entered those relationships with a preconceived notion that those ladies aren't worthy of marriage simply based on the fact that they aren't "home-based" girls... there is nothing either of those poor women could've done to change your prejudice mindset. You are definitely a 'category 1' brother!

If I may ask, what were the different approaches to dating you observed? (your last point)

It wasn't difficult to form that notion, but it was never preconceived. It happened only after I met them, though before we started dating. In fact, with both girls, I only dated them because they asked me out, and they were attractive; to be honest.

It's hard to put a finger on why I knew it wasn't ever going to work out, but one noticeable thing was that there was never any give and take. Normal relationships are all about compromise, but they made it patently clear that I was to accept everything on their own terms. The basic idea being; "take me as I am or get out". For example, one was a smoker and would not even consider restricting her smoking to our balcony at my place, even when I told her that my roommates didn't like the smell she left behind. There was always some underlying pride or belief that they were something special. Why would I want to take such women home to meet my traditional family?

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by bereto(m): 11:40pm On Jan 08, 2021
While I don't fully support going for Nigerian ladies. Most ladies over there are cheaters they can't control their sexual urge

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by nedekid: 11:41pm On Jan 08, 2021
Hotbutt:
How I wish I can travel abroad even if it's for a day.

Modified
Once am done with Nursing School next year, I will try and find my way Abroad.
Nna, see shape grin
Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by TheWalkingMind: 11:43pm On Jan 08, 2021
angelfallz:
Only These Na story.

If a man marries a good wife take her to mount Everest, take her to the centre of the earth, her character and personality wouldn't change.

Your piece is just advocating for men to marry "akata" girls instead of home based girls. While forgetting that everyone is different.
Or do you want to say that there no bad experiences from men that married "akata" girls?

What you should be advocating for is that men should shine their eyes and marry women with the right character and attitude.
Have you left the shores of Nigeria in your entire life?
Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by Nobody: 11:43pm On Jan 08, 2021
When you can let go of control and manipulation in love you have found the essence of love. Character is something you can’t hide for long. A strong foundation in God or Allah regardless of where you choose to reside will help build a loving relationship. Egos get in the way how much is he bringing to the table how much is she bringing to the table ...cheating and secret affairs a lot of things can happen but if you focus on the purpose of your marriage there will not be any cracks.

Remember what you feed will grow be if positive or negative. You can’t drain the life of your spouse because your not happy. Be kind be helpful and also forgive but don’t be a fool for it.

Life is about rising to the occasion in anything your committed to.

African Americans are the most generous real people I’ve ever met they plug you up for real but they don’t take crap in the name of love. I borrow a piece of their attitude I invest in it I get the best of it. It don’t respect me me it don’t please me. Of all the men I’ve dated the respectful ones were the African Americans your treated as an equal ...a woman you are cherished you are loved. It’s not war it’s not disrespect it’s not misogynistic it’s admiration it’s contribution and that’s all we need from Nigerian men worldwide we see your flexin now embrace awareness of your partner e sanwo ma Sa Lo no matter how little take care of your own in America and Europe they don’t play na only me Dey here like that.

Life is much more than just random hookups it’s building the best with your mate with love and respect no matter where you live. I must say this sometimes you will spend years loving a spouse who is just there to contend with you. No sweet words just always ready to reign insults on you. It is a sign of displeasure but not a sign that you are not worthy of love, respect and affection


Recognize it before it’s too late and you assume everyone is out to hurt you when they truly are sensitive towards you. Bad intentions will always require more explanations but good intentions is direct and rewarding.

We sit and judge people that don’t talk like us, act like us or love like us but who we are on the inside will show how we are truly loved and remembered on the outside.

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by cooooooks(m): 11:46pm On Jan 08, 2021
I think Nigerians abroad should:
- marry people already abroad, African or not,

- if someone is coming from Nigeria, let them come as students or workers first. As you guys continue dating there, you can get more permanently hitched.


The idea that the man provides and the woman does no work is not limited to Nigerians. So don't write off an entire nationality or race because of stereotypes.


sweetmelanin:
Every now and again, I hear new stories about some men getting "betrayed" by a Nigerian spouse whom they've brought abroad.. however, I can't help but notice that they are often the cause of their own misfortune. As harsh as it sounds, some men have had to learn the hard way that ignorance and hero-complex will cost a man far more than he can ever bargain for..

Category 1: Those with a warped mindset of the " 'cultureless' akata"

My experience:
Let's go back to my uni days some years back.. the dating scene was wild, brutal and exciting.. back then, the disparity was huge between the "freshiees" and UK grown blacks (unlike today) .. but yet, I was opportuned to mix and mingle with so many young Nigerian guys who were in the UK as international students at the time.. some also young working professionals ( of which are still life-long friends of mine up till today)...

..whilst on the dating scene, I noticed that a lot of Nigerian guys seemed to have a mentality that "akata" girls were "too exposed" compared to Nigerian girls back home, so they played games with them, often ditching these girls to marry home-based chicks.. I remember having such a silly and childish dream of relocating to Nigeria back then . Hahha.. and thought I would end up with a "freshiie" who would 'take me back to the motherland'.. haha. though I ended up with someone with a migration story just like mine; we both moved to the UK as kids in the early 2000s.. and my husband is a male 'akata' to core cheesy ..with no intention whatsoever of moving back.

Truth be told, a lot of guys who had temporary flings with "akata" girls ended up moving back to Nigeria, and are still regretting their decision till today.. Many returned to find their girlfriends had moved on and married older men. Others attempted to bring their girlfriends here to find out they've been used as a mere stepping stone to "greener pastures".


Category 2: Those who used and dumped white women for papers and then brought their "ungrateful Nigerian wives" abroad.

Men who are desperate for papers often opt for the easy way out: marrying an older white woman (and in some cases a poor unsuspecting black woman from another African country who has papers) ... they do this with the mindset that they would bring their "real wife" from Nigeria.
Now when their 'wife' divorces them.. these men will scream betrayal, forgetting the trail of heartbreaks they've left behind.. Now how do such men think they will use a foreign woman, break her heart, and yet live happily ever after with an imported bride?? how??

In summary,

When I hear stories of bitter divorces and men killing their spouse whom they brought from Nigeria I can't help but think this could've been avoided if they focused on settling with a so called "akata". Yes, she may not feign fake 'submission' like home-based Nigerian chicks, but what makes her less likely to 'betray' or mess you up is the absence of entitlement mentality.
...someone coming directly from Nigeria typically has a dog eat dog mentality caused by an oppressive system of lack. Whereas an abroad based chick already learns not to depend on a man from as early as 16 - 17 years of age.. most already have part time jobs as students and know the value of working for their money.. they won't take crap but at least what you see is what you get.. abroad based girls (akatas) are not angels but are far better than the pretenders back home y'all believe are "wife materials".. but people generally hold on to an illusion over what is real.

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by Nobody: 11:48pm On Jan 08, 2021
BarrElChapo:


What about us that don't have 'pal'
Lol. Find one na grin abi na ur enemy or na stranger u wan marry?

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by angelfallz(m): 11:54pm On Jan 08, 2021
nedekid:

So you think.
There is no Eldorado with women. There is nothing like women with good and perfect character. The situation and environment brings out characters even from the most saintly. When the chips are down you may know who is who. The worst can even end up being the best.
"Lol, it's unfortunate that you've only been meeting terrible women in your life"
How long have you been married to determine (ie if you are) if you as a person have been fortunate to meet only perfect women with good characters?
5,10,15,20 years?
Anyway, you will learn over time..

Are you trying to say there are also no men with good character?
I never said anything about perfect character. Don't try to say what I never said.

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by NaBanga: 11:54pm On Jan 08, 2021
omotolarunsewe:
When you bring a woman abroad make sure you ready to treat her like an African queen.don’t let her help out in paying any bills.make sure you have a good job or business,take good care of her. Go on vacations,Don’t cheat on her.she will always remain your queen.my wife came here 14 years ago and she still remain my adorable wife. Be smart and never get jealous when she start making her own $$$

AMEN. May God continue to bless real men like you.

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by 1Sharon(f): 11:55pm On Jan 08, 2021
Ihekwoabasam:
To b frank,
Nigerians HV their reasons, we African love to b respected unlike white or black ladies over there,
is mostly the reason Nigerians come bk to marry

You love a woman you can push around you mean

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by angelfallz(m): 11:55pm On Jan 08, 2021
TheWalkingMind:
Have you left the shores of Nigeria in your entire life?


What has that got to do with anything?

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by Efound3: 11:59pm On Jan 08, 2021
truth
Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by SweetCunt97(f): 11:59pm On Jan 08, 2021
Preach Sis!
Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by Efound3: 12:00am On Jan 09, 2021
sweetmelanin:
Every now and again, I hear new stories about some men getting "betrayed" by a Nigerian spouse whom they've brought abroad.. however, I can't help but notice that they are often the cause of their own misfortune. As harsh as it sounds, some men have had to learn the hard way that ignorance and hero-complex will cost a man far more than he can ever bargain for..

Category 1: Those with a warped mindset of the " 'cultureless' akata"

My experience:
Let's go back to my uni days some years back.. the dating scene was wild, brutal and exciting.. back then, the disparity was huge between the "freshiees" and UK grown blacks (unlike today) .. but yet, I was opportuned to mix and mingle with so many young Nigerian guys who were in the UK as international students at the time.. some also young working professionals ( of which are still life-long friends of mine up till today)...

..whilst on the dating scene, I noticed that a lot of Nigerian guys seemed to have a mentality that "akata" girls were "too exposed" compared to Nigerian girls back home, so they played games with them, often ditching these girls to marry home-based chicks.. I remember having such a silly and childish dream of relocating to Nigeria back then . Hahha.. and thought I would end up with a "freshiie" who would 'take me back to the motherland'.. haha. though I ended up with someone with a migration story just like mine; we both moved to the UK as kids in the early 2000s.. and my husband is a male 'akata' to core cheesy ..with no intention whatsoever of moving back.

Truth be told, a lot of guys who had temporary flings with "akata" girls ended up moving back to Nigeria, and are still regretting their decision till today.. Many returned to find their girlfriends had moved on and married older men. Others attempted to bring their girlfriends here to find out they've been used as a mere stepping stone to "greener pastures".


Category 2: Those who used and dumped white women for papers and then brought their "ungrateful Nigerian wives" abroad.

Men who are desperate for papers often opt for the easy way out: marrying an older white woman (and in some cases a poor unsuspecting black woman from another African country who has papers) ... they do this with the mindset that they would bring their "real wife" from Nigeria.
Now when their 'wife' divorces them.. these men will scream betrayal, forgetting the trail of heartbreaks they've left behind.. Now how do such men think they will use a foreign woman, break her heart, and yet live happily ever after with an imported bride?? how??

In summary,

When I hear stories of bitter divorces and men killing their spouse whom they brought from Nigeria I can't help but think this could've been avoided if they focused on settling with a so called "akata". Yes, she may not feign fake 'submission' like home-based Nigerian chicks, but what makes her less likely to 'betray' or mess you up is the absence of entitlement mentality.
...someone coming directly from Nigeria typically has a dog eat dog mentality caused by an oppressive system of lack. Whereas an abroad based chick already learns not to depend on a man from as early as 16 - 17 years of age.. most already have part time jobs as students and know the value of working for their money.. they won't take crap but at least what you see is what you get.. abroad based girls (akatas) are not angels but are far better than the pretenders back home y'all believe are "wife materials".. but people generally hold on to an illusion over what is real.
truth

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by tit(f): 12:05am On Jan 09, 2021
Hintona:


On nairaland or in real life?

the marriage or the jakpa?
Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by idahme(m): 12:07am On Jan 09, 2021
humilitypays:
pls who get NOKIA pin mouth charger here, our I pass my neighbor gen just blew the one i bought yesterday angry


Can't stop laughing, u are officially a clown. U no well.

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Re: Why Bringing A Spouse Abroad Goes Wrong by 1Sharon(f): 12:10am On Jan 09, 2021
omoharry:
Nigeria is good for you ? You must be living comfortably here

If you're well off Nigeria is very good

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