vankelvin:


You are showing your village instinct.

Institutions are run differently in different countries.

In some countries, private schools are superior to public schools.
In Ghana, public schools are rather superior to private institutions.

Little Education for you.

The catholic/other churches or muslims mission
-do not build school infrastructures
-They do not train Teachers
-They do not pay salaries
-They do not employ any worker
Government does everything so what do you mean by that Harambee rubbish?

The Churches/muslim mission are only responsible for training the students through their beliefs and what not.

rvp2018:
I really doubt that there is an automatic system in place that decided that.
I also doubt that church has land everywhere.

Now the double track thing make sense - because you clearly lack education facilities - you're at the mercy of churches.

In Kenya - if 10 parents meet and decide - they are far off from nearest school - they can build one - and gov will supply teachers.

Nowadays the gov build- in my village - they recently decided to build another primary school - we are fewer than 20 families - CDF bought the land - and County gov built the pre-primary - and the MP (CDF) has built 4 initial classes.

Obviously people from poor areas - in kenya - would rather they open a school under a tree - than wait for the pope to build them one.

Just30:
There is an automatic system that shapes the future on every community.
your doubts will be yours.

I should be telling you that kenya lacks educational facilities because it has less primary schools than Ghana.
funny children

The most powerful church in Ghana is the Pentecostal and Methodist Church, is the pope their leader too.?

In Ghana, once church members decide they want a school, the Church provide land and the member starts the school project with the Church development fund. Once it becomes a serious thing the District assembly makes sure it is completed to standard.

mtisTheQubit00:


the bolded...70%....guess who running the show mate

rvp2018:
The church has 30K primary school producing idiots like you - who probably spend a lot of time gramming bibical verse and chanting Jesus Jesus like Nigerians - than studying.

No wonder you're as obtuse as Somali who went to Madrassa...and spent all the time studying Koran ...instead of basic critical thinking.

Or like Nigerians - where someone is a criminal and a strong christian at the same time . I bet Ghanaians are the same - Church is basically all you know - you went to church school - all your life.

Kenya gov control the schools, the curriculum and everything.

Church in kenya are left to run their private affairs including preaching.

vankelvin:


I can't continue with this dumbo attitude okay?

-Government is responsible for building infrastructures for these missionary schools

--Goverment is the one training Teachers for these schools.

--Goverment pays their salaries 100%

--Goverment is responsible for buying everything, from text books, desks, chalk/marker, buses etc

-- Government builds teachers bungalows

-- Government pays fees for all the students(free education)

-- Government feeds some of the students for free(school feeding program)

These Missionary churches or muslim missions are only playing supervisory role so who do you think runs these schools?

rvp2018:
We know what mission school in kenya are. We have them. Kenya is 90% christian nation. But we will never allow them to be anything 70% - they are not even 5% of our education system.

Just30:
I said 30,000 primary schools, majority of which are private schools and followed by public schools.

Keep dreaming, you think we are dysfunctional like your nations where people run the street screaming Jesus because of a cloud...

Gov't control the schools and curriculum here too, make another point.

In all schools, morning assemble is compulsory on Mondays and any other day of the week.

mtisTheQubit00:


The church is very strong...70%

largest producer of gold in africa but see..begging pope for stuff

Just30:
Ghanain parent do not need to ask for a school before they get i.

Once the community is of a few 1000 people, they get a primary school.
Once the population is above 10,000, They get a mission school in addition
once the population grows into the 100 of thousands, they get a cluster of schools and school complexes.

The church have access to lands, once they provide land for a school project they want to start.
Their church members begin the construction with their development money and go into negotiations with gov't for support.
The district assembly help them complete their project and provide other amenities to complete the school as per GES standard.

All mission schools in Ghana are public, whether state-assisted built mission school or sole built mission schools.
Gov't end up running them while the church provide the principals who are usually selected by the church council at national level in collaboration with GES.

Just30:
The fact that the church is developmental in Ghana shows how development minded we are as a people.

While your Kenya is 90% Christian, all the church money is funnel through private pockets

Here, Church collections and donations develop communities they are in.

rvp2018:
Why would you tax churches? We don't tax churches. But we don't allow them to get into gov. Kenya is a secular nation. The freedom of religion ends there.

Kenya gov has changed education system from British system like Ghana to Canada system 8-4-4 - and now we are into Competence Based Learning - and if we were waiting for Pope to agree - we would be like you. If we decide to teach sex education - we don't wait for Pope.

Functionally illiterates folks.

mtisTheQubit00:


The church is very strong...70%

largest producer of gold in africa but see..begging pope for stuff

rvp2018:
lol charismatic Ghana. Then word - cutting sod . Most catholics schools will take instruction from Rome - or if you like the little vatican inside Rome.

Just30:
we dont tax Churches as long as they use their monies to carry out development to the benefit of the general public.
Churches deserve to be taxed if they are not providing public service. You are asking why should churches be tax, are churches not money making business?

a church getting into gov't is new to me, elaborate more ...

No wonder y'all are stupid in kenya.
Ghana run a 6 - 3 - 3 system.

The curriculum is provided by the GES and sex education has been taught in Ghana since schools began.

who is this pope you keep referring to and what has he got to do with education?

rvp2018:
I really doubt that there is an automatic system in place that decided that.
I also doubt that church has land everywhere.

Now the double track thing make sense - because you clearly lack education facilities - you're at the mercy of churches.

In Kenya - if 10 parents meet and decide - they are far off from nearest school - they can build one - and gov will supply teachers.

Nowadays the gov build- in my village - they recently decided to build another primary school - we are fewer than 20 families - CDF bought the land - and County gov built the pre-primary - and the MP (CDF) has built 4 initial classes.

Obviously people from poor areas - in kenya - would rather they open a school under a tree - than wait for the pope to build them one.

vankelvin:
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You should understand one thing,
Ghana is not Kenya so read and learn, all countries are not run the same.

In Ghana the early missionaries got so many lands for free. They own huge lands. So what's wrong with Government making use of the missionary lands by building more schools on the lands whilst Government lands are used for other things?

Just30:
It is called a mission school because the initiative came from the church and it members.
Gov't cant sit and watch a half baked school

In registering the school, the school have to be at a certain level of development.

So most of the infrastructure have to be provided by gov't anyway because it becomes a public school.

rvp2018:
The church has 30K primary school producing idiots like you - who probably spend a lot of time gramming bibical verse and chanting Jesus Jesus like Nigerians - than studying.

No wonder you're as obtuse as Somali who went to Madrassa...and spent all the time studying Koran ...instead of basic critical thinking.

Or like Nigerians - where someone is a criminal and a strong christian at the same time . I bet Ghanaians are the same - Church is basically all you know - you went to church school - all your life.

Kenya gov control the schools, the curriculum and everything.

Church in kenya are left to run their private affairs including preaching.

rvp2018:
First let get proper stats. Kenya public primary schools are 27,000 last I checked. Private schools are in excess of 10,000.
Secondly where does the church get all that land.

When it come to expenditure - we spend about 5B dollars on public schools

- Gov pays capitation per pupil/student
- Gov pays teachers
- Gov buys equipment, textbooks, etc
- Now Gov also build schools.

Private schools including missions schools- are just outside - any gov - radar.

We are BEYOND AID - like your president clearly shown in the picture.

vankelvin:


The question is, do your buildings look beautiful exteriorly?

rvp2018:
We know what mission school in kenya are. We have them. Kenya is 90% christian nation. But we will never allow them to be anything 70% - they are not even 5% of our education system.

Just30:
The church buys it land from traditional authorities

How can you be beyond aid when you are waiting for the next food aid from unicef, turkey and china?


but i digress


The Ghanaian gov't provide feeding, pays capitation grants, text and exercise books, exams fees, build schools and provide equipment, pay teachers and pay for the upgrade in teacher knowledge.
Except in international schools

rvp2018:
Can a muslim be admitted to catholic school and be allowed to pray in a mosque?
It appears that you've allowed churches to use public resources to spread their religion.
What you describe is basically public school - why you want to call it mission or catholic is beyond me.

Just30:
The church buys it land from traditional authorities

How can you be beyond aid when you are waiting for the next food aid from unicef, turkey and china?


but i digress


The Ghanaian gov't provide feeding, pays capitation grants, text and exercise books, exams fees, build schools and provide equipment, pay teachers and pay for the upgrade in teacher knowledge.
Except in international schools

vankelvin:


The question is, do your buildings look beautiful exteriorly?

rvp2018:
Why would you tax churches? We don't tax churches. But we don't allow them to get into gov. Kenya is a secular nation. The freedom of religion ends there.

Kenya gov has changed education system from British system like Ghana to Canada system 8-4-4 - and now we are into Competence Based Learning - and if we were waiting for Pope to agree - we would be like you. If we decide to teach sex education - we don't wait for Pope.

Functionally illiterates folks.

rvp2018:
Public schools in kenya are run by parents.
Parents appoint a school board - BoM - Board of Management - with chairman now required to be the graduate.
The secretary is the school principal.
Gov deploy and manages teachers, textbook, equipment's and works.
BOM - are responsible for managing the school infrastructure. They can decide to fund raise or seek funding from gov.
These are PUBIC school.

Private schools include mission, academies, grammar schools, international schools. They receive ZERO gov funding or help or teachers or anything. Parents pay expensive fees for that reason.

Just30:
we dont need to study anything from kenya


we have 30,000 primary schools today

By the time of 1957 we had almost 4000 schools

Just30:
Public schools in Ghana is run by the GES and PTA solely or the Church, GES and PTA in mission schools.

Here The GES appoint a principal and the person is always a graduate. In mission schools, the church must accept the person Islamic leader must accept the person.

Student leaders are appointed by students, PTA leaders are appointed and teacher leaders are appointed to for the governing council.
Private schools receive zero gov;t funding

anymore you want to add?

rvp2018:
Try chant this GHANA BEYOND AID.
No country can develop on your laughable model.
Church cannot be allowed to drive gov agenda...because their objective is totally different.

Kenya go to church, they tithe very well, kenyans like mission schools, they charge expensive fees, but we are secular nation.

Kenya is indeed a modern state. Church, military, etc - are not allowed in public sector - in any form.

rvp2018:
Flies in face of all logic. Why would an investor build a private school if public school are good. In countries with good public schools - private school simply don't exist. It doesn't make sense.

Go ask the pope to refund your fees.