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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 10:18pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
izzou:you don't use those services Reddit? Trump has done more damage on reddit than on facebook self I use reddit alot 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:22pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
HewlettPackard:Don't you think the decision was strengthened further by Twitter and Facebook recent antics? Bobby has been a thorn in the flesh of the regime no doubt but the decision taken may be hinged on national security and the influence of fake news in disrupting the fragile peace Uganda is enjoying |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:22pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
iamJ: Simple question, and you keep riding around the roundabout What did Trump violate on Spotify or Pinterest or Reddit? Abi you wan talk this night? 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 10:28pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
izzou:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/reddit-bans-forum-dedicated-to-supporting-trump-and-twitter-permanently-suspends-his-allies-who-spread-conspiracy-theories.amp.html |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:30pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
runtime: They are catching cruise with Trump, and nobody is talking, and that's what I find surprising. I know that this would repeat itself somehow, someday in the future. Na from Friday dem dey take know how weekend go be 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:34pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
iamJ: I asked you to show me the rule Donald Trump violated on Reddit, and you showed me where Reddit banned a forum with thousands of Trump supporters You really need to understand a discourse, before you jump into it. No be everything you go just open mouth waaaaa Hope you understand? 20 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 10:36pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
izzou: Basically if Jack Dorsey wakes up tommorow and is annoyed by any world leader, he can just delete their account. If he disagrees with the opinion of anyone in opposition, poof they're gone. The new world order might just be here already. 15 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HewlettPackard: 10:37pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
Amoto94: He(Museveni) may use that as an excuse but this issue has actually been speculated in Uganda's polity far far before Trump's ish. Bobby Wine resounds well among the young population and SM has been one of his powerful tool. Museveni is just clipping his opponent basically, since he already controls local media. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:44pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: I don't even like Trump, but the way these guys have acted is shocking Na Jack emotions we go use take dey know who dey right or wrong A lot of people including celebrities incited violence during the EndSars protests on Twitter. I did not see Jack flagging accounts. It definitely was freedom of speech then. Make we dey watch. This conversation will definitely come up again 12 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:46pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: It's like you don't follow Trump's twitter. Anyone whose words and lies invite people to violence can and should be banned. There are many preachers who radicalise people to join ISIS etc without ever stepping outside the boundary of the laws. Freedom of speech is guaranteed. Freedom after speech is not. Twitter's only problem is allowing him to get this far. He built his political career off Twitter with lies upon lies upon lies. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:52pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
Museveni was always gonna block social media cos Bobi Wine is too popular and is a movement in Uganda now. He is planning a coup. Soldiers lockdown Kampala right now. My Ugandan friend sent me this today. Museveni want display and doesn't want wildfire to spread via social media 6 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 10:54pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
izzou:Those companies are banning anything trump on their platform because he uses those platform via his supporters to mislead others and they congregate on those platforms You are asking me a silly question, does the heat from north pole of the sun have to reach earth before you know that there is heat there? They are banning anything trump, same way they ban anybody that uses their platform to promote propaganda What kind of silly question is what is trump's offense? There are many subreddits that are used for propaganda purposes but when it gets too toxic, it's taken down These companies have been ignoring trump's activites for years Joe Rogan recently hosted alex jones, spotify had serious issues with him over that, if seuun allows a group of people to use this platform to try to overthrow a government by spreading lies, after the individuals have been handled, government will turn their attention to seuun Trump was banned on a social site doesn't mean that he owns an account, it means trump related activities are banned 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 10:57pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
iamJ: You are just talking and assuming and ....I don't know You can go to bed now. You did not have any point from the beginning 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 10:58pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:why are you guys saying things like this? You have to break rules to be banned Most of you simply wouldn't accept that twitter has rules That you are a world leader doesn't mean that you are excemted You have followers and likes, like every other person If buhari is on nairaland and he starts to promote an agenda that will destroy nigeria, seunn has to act, that's why nairaland has rules, cause if he doesn't, government will close down the service I don't understand how you people are thinking 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 10:59pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
Ibime: Whilst your reason aligns with Twitter today, it might not align tommorow, but by then it's too late as the precedent has already been set. They will hide behind the 'rules' and remind you that they actually banned a sitting US president. 10 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 10:59pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
izzou:guy when it comes to certain topics, forget I know my pot of soup You called subreddits forums and you are calling me an assumer 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 11:01pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
iamJ: Okay. I don hear |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 11:02pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
Ibime:same thing happens with proud boys, you allow these groups to mutate because of free speech and they eventually become something else and the companies are held responsible Many people blame facebook for 2016 election results, they allowed trump's lies to spread like wild fire 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 11:03pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: The big problem that nobody is seeing. If someone is banning a sitting US president, I wonder how you want to control that person in the future. Before you go tackle am sef, Jack don delete your account 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 11:08pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
But wait People are mad cause trump got suspended Unless you wanted to see america destroyed or divided further, I don't see any other thing that will make someone mad over his suspension If someone post nudes on twitter you are ok if they are suspended But if someone pushes an agenda that divides a country and caused the deaths of 4 people, he should be left alone cause free speech Na ment? 3 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:11pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: So far, so good, they hold up democratic ideals and I support their stance. It's not about power of Twitter but about Democracy vs Authoritarianism. God bless any organisation that makes us feel safe as black people from the rhetoric of race baiters 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 11:12pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
izzou:it's his company If seuun doesn't want someone here, he can force you out Its a company with owners and they have the right to do as they please If you aren't comfortable, create your own billion dollar idea and become his rival If any company deserves scrutiny it's facebook, twitter is a very decent company 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 11:17pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
iamJ: I thought I was done with our discussion Any new insights I should be aware of? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:19pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
Ibime: What's democratic about Jack Dorsey's unilateral decision? About Zuckerberg's unilateral decision? We saw Jack tweet EndSARS during the protest. What of he decided to delete Buharis account? At least we know he can now The fact that you agree with his reasoning is immaterial. It's not like he consulted you before taking the decision. You just happened to align after the fact Tommorow you might not agree, but you won't be able to complain, because you have accepted that no action is off-limit to the owners of social media - Their opinions justify their actions. 12 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 11:23pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: Ohh, but it is. It is their own platform and they are very well within their rights to enforce thier terms and conditions. Trump has been no normal president. He's an individual who has broken down all Sense of decency in politics. But the fact that we're now at an actually dangerous level, one that doesn't just comprise of dangerous rhetoric but also incitement of vandalism. Only God knows what would have happened if the mob have actually seen any member of congress that day. Actually at this point I do pity the social media executives, for a long time they have been under enormous pressure to actually act, and clamp down on the dangerous rhetoric being spread on their platforms and their radicalisation going on on their platforms, but they vehemently defended "this free speech arguments". But after what happened last week, they reckoned with their complicity in this affair by having stayed silent and they decided to act. There is just no win for the execs. Stay silent and you're accused of not doing enough to moderate. Ban radical rhetoric and you are accused of authoritarian censorship. For a minute, let's talk about the reason for the mobs action. Both of us both know that the American election was free and fair. I mean this is not an African country. This is a country with 250 years behind them. They have one of the best and strongest institutions in the world. Think about this for a minute. In more than 250 years of America's existence, no American president has ever rejected the results of an election until now, I mean if there was credence to these allegations, people could understand, but both of us, me and you both know that the elections as usual were free and fair but you have a situation whereby a sitting American President attacks it's institutions, delegitimizes their system and destroys their reputation globally. All because he cannot handle losing. and you have unfortunate folks who believe this false narratives and actually carry out dangerous actions upon them. At what point do we say, yes it has to be stopped. We can't bother about what happens tomorrow for now, because the actions are totally justified. When the executives do this subsequently, again will have this debate, but for now nobody should complain because it has been coming. It is absolutely necessary, at least if we still want to live in a civil society. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 11:24pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
If american government wanted to shut down twitter today They can If they wanted to remove jack from his position and break the company They can No power is absolute anywhere, unless you are a king in your own country If jack did this to a president for no just reason, there will be repercussions Twitter is a website, if they can shut down torrent sites is it twitter with known server locations that they can't shut down, abeg all these talk of jack being all powerful dey make me laugh 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 6:40am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Ibime:Izzou this is what I have been waiting for Jude to type since you were asking him Take it easy with him abeg |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 7:36am On Jan 13, 2021 |
sod09:easy on me care? He was asking a silly question, nigerians aren't very bright No be today I know 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 7:54am On Jan 13, 2021 |
iamJ:Silly question you couldn't answer until ibime saved you from your misery 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 7:58am On Jan 13, 2021 |
sod09:ibime saved me? You guys are really insecure You assumed that I was an illiterate cause I fool around alot 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 8:04am On Jan 13, 2021 |
sod09:Wahala be like Sadiq |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 8:07am On Jan 13, 2021 |
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