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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 8:08am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Florian Neuhaus arguably the best player at Gladbach that I was silently praying Chelsea should sign as a DM because of his energy and dynamism is being sought after by Bayern Munich, guess what he will soon end up at Bayern if the offer is firm |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 8:13am On Jan 13, 2021 |
sod09: Leave that one abeg. No one is justifying Trump's tweets. We are just talking about the consequences of our silence Twitter banned Trump, but whether you like it or not, they have humiliated a sitting president of the USA. It could be your favourite celebrity tomorrow. It could be anybody. It could be someone speaking against their privacy laws. But then, if they can humiliate a sitting president of the USA, who you (in Odumeje's voice)? Like I said, we would have this conversation again, and it definitely won't be Trump in the centre 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:20am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Amoto94:So your grouse is not even that Trump has done wrong. It's whataboutism. Do you expect Jack to be as vested in other countries as he is in his own? Do you know how many times you would be suspended if you tweeted the exact same things Trump tweeted? Even on this Nairaland aren't there rules governing what you can say and what you can't say. Maybe if more people died in that attempted coup you would have a different opinion. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 8:24am On Jan 13, 2021 |
izzou:It is not about Trump and his foolish antics that has brought him this far but about the second-order effects of this unilateral decision by tech giants and inherent inconsistency. I'm an advocate of censorship as absolute freedom is a recipe for disaster as we're witness to in recent times, my grouse is with allowing people driven by business interests to take decision that will affect billions whilst they have no skin in the game. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 8:31am On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40:No one is denying the fact that Trump is a dangerous man and from the stupidest of leaders the world has witnessed in modern era I ranked him in the same category with his counterparts in UK and Brazil but the question begging for answers is why the sudden change of tactics when it's no longer good for business? Why should tech giants arrogate powers to themselves when you know that they're partisan and can decide to do as they wish and pay lobbyists to clean up their mess? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:35am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Amoto94:China and Turkey are not worthy examples. Twitter would not even be functional in those countries so I don't see why they are the bastions of Censorship. My question is how much more wiggle room do you suggest these companies should have given Trump to continue his insurrection agenda. How many people have to die because a despotic leader has refused to accept defeat. People are pretending like there is any leader in the world presently that has been as disruptive as Trump on any media space. Had GEJ pulled this off in 2019 using social media as a tool to heat up the polity over an election he soundly lost would you keep this energy? President does not entitle you to immunity on social media 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:38am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Amoto94:Events of last week is enough for this drastic turn. It's not a one off or spur of the moment ban as they made clear. This was just the straw that broke the camel's back. I would ask again. What would have been your response had several lawmakers and the VP gotten killed or injured. 5 people died in that incident. 5! 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 8:40am On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40:Same 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:45am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Amoto94:Good. Jack does not see it that way. MAGA and Trumpism will not suddenly vanish because of Trump's ban but he has done his part to cut off the head of the snake from his platform. It's a free world and nothing stops Trump and his supporters from building their platform and spewing their divisive agenda there. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 8:47am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Amoto94: I'll repeat what I said in the American Politics thread here again. Bojo is not Trump and neither is He Bolsonaro because unlike the aforementioned duo, Bojo is actually a very intelligent chap. Don't let His tweddle dum personality fool you. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 8:49am On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40:Simple I mean I don't like this man one bit, but banning him everywhere is a solution or adding fuel to fire |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:52am On Jan 13, 2021 |
afrodoc2:I find it disturbing that educated minds are conflating the two. Almost feel like I'm in a time machine to Weimar Germany 1933 where people were also reasoning with Hitler and seeing sense in some of his rhetoric. This man went on a one man full on assault on the oldest democracy on the planet. What Trump attempted is what Babangida pulled off. Trump would have annulled that election if he could. But all I see is people playing devil's advocate. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:54am On Jan 13, 2021 |
sod09:You don't negotiate with cancer you uproot. if those lawmakers were killed. We will be having a very different conversation 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:03am On Jan 13, 2021 |
iamJ:Loool Nigerians are tiring. Always fighting for the wrong things. I no know whether na swear Just see this one for example. If not MENT why will you even let this yarns leave your sitting room 4 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:13am On Jan 13, 2021 |
pamcode:But you didn't have issues with him dragging professional athletes, politicians, journalists and Doctors in the mud for most of his administration. Lol una go soon talk as e dey do una 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:17am On Jan 13, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:We both know this is not what happened with Trump. We all know this Trump owes a huge chunk of his popularity he has to that app. He was allowed more than enough rope 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 9:24am On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40:It is like you're focussing on Twitter alone and forgetting that Amazon, Apple and Google removed Parler an alternative to Twitter |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 9:27am On Jan 13, 2021 |
chic2pimp: He is a columnist and communicates well but he's an intellectual idiot. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:27am On Jan 13, 2021 |
iamJ:I don't understand. You would think this is like me opening a forum and banning someone who says LeBron is better than Michael Jordan. The false equivalence is doing my head in Not the fact that Trump's tweets and rallies and divisive agenda is tearing their democracy apart over an election that he LOST!! 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 9:30am On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40: Many people are actually ignorant about what democracy and about how fascism develops. Trump is not your regular POTUS. He is a lame duck President who is fascist in all but name and used his office and social media to instigate insurrection against the government. The only reason he is not going to be impeached again is that he is going soon anyway. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leequte: 9:32am On Jan 13, 2021 |
afrodoc2: But he is going to be impeached again. The house plans to introduce articles of impeachment in 24 hours and this time, the senate seems to be on board. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:33am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Amoto94:Yes. When you commandeer an invasion that has not occurred in 200+ years getting deplatformed should be the least of your worries. What do you think happens if Trump is banned only on Twitter and their right wing propaganda forum Parler is allowed to exist on their platform? It will only multiply and make Amazon, Apple and Google accomplices of sort. If they are against Trump and the carnage he unleashed it's common sense they ban him on their platform Future cases should be argued on their merits as it should be in any sane society not this whataboutism I'm seeing here. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 9:36am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Leequte: Lol. The guy bit off more than he can chew. I wonder if Ted Cruz and other bottom feeders will stick with him. Well that is good news. I didn’t think they had the time to do it. Americans should actually be ashamed of themselves for voting such an obnoxious and obvious anti-democrat as President. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:50am On Jan 13, 2021 |
afrodoc2:Everything about Trump speaks of Jim Jones of Guyanatown/Jonestown fame. I'm always wary of leaders with cult like following and cult of personality behavior. They are skilled at evoking undeserving sympathy and that makes them very dangerous. When somebody who bankrupted a Casino is able to convince people that Doctors, Journalists, Lawyers and actual professionals don't know their jobs then you should be worried He might not be as devious as a Hitler, Mussolini or Stalin but he would create just enough of a conducive environment for Neo-Nazism, Fascism and Populist agenda to thrive so that the next in line would be more efficient and they would infiltrate society and leadership positions enough to turn Fascist ideals to a way of life. Trump apologists are conveniently glossing over the fact that he is being rightfully punished for going above and beyond what a President should not do. They are deliberately acting like Trump was not given enough rope as if Jack just banned him because he doesn't like his face and not that Trump actually abused his platform to the point that his stay there was untenable. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:55am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Amoto94:There's always a tweet. 3 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 10:06am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Amoto94: An intellectual idiot He most certainly is not. He went to one of the Best Prep schools in the UK then proceeded onto Eton which He attended as an Academic Scholar then Oxford. It did all of this whilst maintaining a very High Academic standard. As I already said don't let His personality fool you. If He and Trump were to have an intellectual debate on tv without any material given beforehand, He'll thoroughly wipe the Floor with Him. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:14am On Jan 13, 2021 |
chic2pimp:My Oga I give up there is a popular adage in Saudi Arabia which says ask the people of Madeenah about the streets of Madeenah because they're more knowledgeable than anyone else |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:16am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 10:22am On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40: I dont think the bolded is true. Zuckerberg in particular has faced congress grillings around 3-4 times over the last few years and specifically refused to police political statements on Facebook. This statement below is from Nick Clegg, former Deputy Prime Minister under Cameron...and now Vice-President, Global Affairs and Communications for Facebook We have a responsibility to protect the platform from outside interference, and to make sure that when people pay us for political ads we make it as transparent as possible. But it is not our role to intervene when politicians speak. https://about.fb.com/news/2019/09/elections-and-political-speech/ The above was facebook's official position in 2019. It is still on their website. Throughout 2020 companies were boycotting facebook for their refusal to police Trump and his followers. More than 750 companies including Coca-Cola, Hershey and Unilever, Walgreens, Best Buy, Ford and Adidas refused to advertise on Facebook and Insta. Despite losing a reported 7.5 Billion dollars in ad revenue in 2020, Zuckerberg refused to budge. According to the Washington Post, Zuckerberg said “ We will not change our policies or our approach on anything because of a threat to a small percent of our revenue, or to any percent of our revenue,”https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/07/03/facebook-advertiser-boycott-hate/ So, please I dont buy the argument that Facebook suddenly developed a conscience. The 5 people that died now are not greater than the number of black people killed to death by racists who no doubt share ideology with Trump. I'm too cynical for that There's something more sinister at play when Facebook goes against it's own principles to deplatform Trump as part of a coordinated move with the rest of Big Tech. For one, I can see how the Democrats cleansweep might incentivize Zuckerberg to back the winner, and do what's best..for HIM. Today we like it, but tommorow we might not. This is the point I'm trying to make. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pamcode(m): 10:25am On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40:That was fire for fire I believe. Trump is very undiplomatic, has an arrogant attitude and a bad mouth. The man is ready to abuse anyone who is against him which is a very bad character for a president or anyone in authority to have. Even then I have a feeling the criticism against him goes beyond issues of politics like it is something personal. Before Trump ran for president in his first term, did he already have a bad record? P.S I am not supporting Trump here just trying to make sense of the whole situation. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 10:27am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Amoto94: Lool Nah you be my Oga o. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leequte: 10:29am On Jan 13, 2021 |
afrodoc2: It’s quite shocking and telling. The rise of Trump shows that human beings are human beings, irrespective of their intelligence level or skin color. People can be manipulated and tricked as long as you dangle what they desperately want (good or bad) in front of their eyes. Trump milked the white nationalists and pandered to their every whim and fantasy - border wall, travel ban, etc and they neglected all his red flags. Remember when we were afraid a nuclear war with N. Korea was imminent cos of his twtfights? He’s the most unpresidential president of this age. He shouldn’t have stayed in power this long sef. Shame the GOP is known for sticking together on an issue (even when it’s killing them) while the democrats like fight pass quarrel. 4 Likes |
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