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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 12:23am On Jan 13, 2021
bidexiii:
Guys war is not for the weak heart !


https://twitter.com/Affan1030/status/1349030542902251523?s=09
Did you see that bullet zipping bye towards the end �

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Tobiloba2407: 12:35am On Jan 13, 2021
LTGEN:

Did you see that bullet zipping bye towards the end �

You saw a flying bullet?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Litmus: 1:02am On Jan 13, 2021
LTGEN:

Did you see that bullet zipping bye towards the end �


In this age of smart phones, Bluetooth, remote control, miniaturisation and all sorts of automation, you’d think majority of rifles would by now be able to use attachments such as “Vid-periscope” so that in the event of situations like the Nigerian soldiers found themselves, on their stomachs under cover, they could leave their tripod mounted rifle over the top and still be able to fire them while viewing what they were shooting at on their mobile phones.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 7:38am On Jan 13, 2021
komekn:


It really depends on what you understand by professionalism. But I picked up this definition online to give us some context.

Commitment and confidence, responsibility and dependability, honesty and ethics, and appearance and professional presence are central professional characteristics.

"The key to quality and efficiency is professionalism"


Let me explain further, your own personal experiences,understanding and knowledge will shape your expectations.

In this regard I do not expect to see trained combatants, abandoning a Vickers MBT in the face of a hostile engagement few rag tag gun trucks from Boko.

The incidents of dereliction of duty and outright cowardice over the years in the NE are too numerous to count.

I dont expect to see professional soldiers stripping women naked because they take exception to thier choice of attire.

Or decide to shave off the hair amidst horse whipping young men because they choose to have their hair in dread locks.

Or decide to drive against the flow of traffic because the military is exempt from traffic laws and run off anybody in their way.

Or decide as a means of entertainment to beat up people because they are army officer cadets in training and block the main road.

Burning down whole villages because a few militants are alleged or indeed come from that village in the Nigerian Delta.

Numerous incidents of the NA visiting murderous mayhem on other security department like the police when in dispute. That's not a professional approach.

I will not go into the corruption of the senior brass of the NA over many decades. Or in particular Burutai and his many million $ assets acquired as a public servant.

Finally, we saw the professional approach of the NA in shooting at defenceless citizens at Lekki tollgate.

The list is literally ENDLESS of deranged murderous violent behaviour and total lack of accountability by the NA.

That's not my PERSONAL experience of PROFESSIONALISM. We have very different EXPECTATIONS.

Nonetheless, l commend you for your optimism and hero worshiping of the NA, it's really. Misguided patriotism.

If you don't address the problem it continues, without admitting our FAILURES we cannot proceed to SUCCESS and VICTORY by wishful thinking.
First of All...

You can't use one or two or three soilders to classify an Army of Tens of Thousands though they are to represent but they entered with the mindset of oppression it's their problem.that was not taught during training
I mainly focus on those who actually fight with Zeal with The mindset of defending this Country and Thank God I've actually met soilders like that.they are friendly.One even allowed me walk two of his Military working dogs (GSD) I bought milk for them and he appreciated.
If you had this kind of experience with a soilder how would you classify the NA.
Well it's not actually your fault there are numerous cases of Oppression by soilders but Good deeds never make it to the media.just like when Our soilder friend here striker Arab saved a woman who was almost raped by 7 men.

On the Case of soilders running away from BHT when you have a vickers,You gonna have to look at the situation before Coming to conclusions.

I don't worship the military I appreciate their efforts the bad ones can't spoil the good ones for me.anytime I watch some videos of our men in combat I wonder what comes in their mind.these are men with family who the could be flexing with at that time but it's quite the opposite and the people they are defending aren't showing appreciation maybe they should allow terrorists overun the country like they did in syria and iraq ..

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 8:00am On Jan 13, 2021
LTGEN:

Did you see that bullet zipping bye towards the end �
That looks like an insect to me.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 8:26am On Jan 13, 2021
Mali Airforce received more Mi-35 helicopters from Russia today, which were brought by a Russian military delegation.
Rosoboronexport signed a contract with Mali for 2 Mi-35M helicopters in 2016, which were delivered in Sep 2017. Mali previously procured 7 old Mi-24D helicopters from Bulgaria between 2007-2012. Not sure when the contract for the new Mi-35M was signed.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 8:26am On Jan 13, 2021
bidexiii:
Mali Airforce received more Mi-35 helicopters from Russia today, which were brought by a Russian military delegation.
Rosoboronexport signed a contract with Mali for 2 Mi-35M helicopters in 2016, which were delivered in Sep 2017. Mali previously procured 7 old Mi-24D helicopters from Bulgaria between 2007-2012. Not sure when the contract for the new Mi-35M was signed.


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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 9:04am On Jan 13, 2021
bidexiii:
Mali Airforce received more Mi-35 helicopters from Russia today, which were brought by a Russian military delegation.
Rosoboronexport signed a contract with Mali for 2 Mi-35M helicopters in 2016, which were delivered in Sep 2017. Mali previously procured 7 old Mi-24D helicopters from Bulgaria between 2007-2012. Not sure when the contract for the new Mi-35M was signed.
I'm jealousgrin lord pls let our remaining 7 come naa

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 9:10am On Jan 13, 2021
Xbee007:

That looks like an insect to me.

The party was definitely lit
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by WoeBetide666: 9:15am On Jan 13, 2021
People who come here with 'opinions', no one cares about your 'opinions'. We're here to see updates about the war effort, not your half-baked, beer parlour opinions. If you're such an expert, send your opinions to the authorities. Mumu

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 10:00am On Jan 13, 2021
komekn:


It really depends on what you understand by professionalism. But I picked up this definition online to give us some context.

Commitment and confidence, responsibility and dependability, honesty and ethics, and appearance and professional presence are central professional characteristics.

"The key to quality and efficiency is professionalism"


Let me explain further, your own personal experiences,understanding and knowledge will shape your expectations.

In this regard I do not expect to see trained combatants, abandoning a Vickers MBT in the face of a hostile engagement few rag tag gun trucks from Boko.

The incidents of dereliction of duty and outright cowardice over the years in the NE are too numerous to count.

I dont expect to see professional soldiers stripping women naked because they take exception to thier choice of attire.

Or decide to shave off the hair amidst horse whipping young men because they choose to have their hair in dread locks.

Or decide to drive against the flow of traffic because the military is exempt from traffic laws and run off anybody in their way.

Or decide as a means of entertainment to beat up people because they are army officer cadets in training and block the main road.

Burning down whole villages because a few militants are alleged or indeed come from that village in the Nigerian Delta.

Numerous incidents of the NA visiting murderous mayhem on other security department like the police when in dispute. That's not a professional approach.

I will not go into the corruption of the senior brass of the NA over many decades. Or in particular Burutai and his many million $ assets acquired as a public servant.

Finally, we saw the professional approach of the NA in shooting at defenceless citizens at Lekki tollgate.

The list is literally ENDLESS of deranged murderous violent behaviour and total lack of accountability by the NA.

That's not my PERSONAL experience of PROFESSIONALISM. We have very different EXPECTATIONS.

Nonetheless, l commend you for your optimism and hero worshiping of the NA, it's really. Misguided patriotism.

If you don't address the problem it continues, without admitting our FAILURES we cannot proceed to SUCCESS and VICTORY by wishful thinking.


Do you have any practical experience with any security situation involving the exchange of bullets?
Have you managed more than 20 people in any professional setting?
I'm just asking to know what you are basing your assessment on.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 10:42am On Jan 13, 2021
Toju200:
I'm jealousgrin lord pls let our remaining 7 come naa


grin shocked grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 10:43am On Jan 13, 2021
#NAF
#SOF

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 11:09am On Jan 13, 2021
bidexiii:



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If Mali can get theirs, why shouldn't we, with Bonny light and aqua iboe grades almost near $60/b with the benchmark of $40/b in the budget, we don't have any excuse. Even if na 3...

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 11:25am On Jan 13, 2021
lebuhsi:


If Mali can get theirs, why shouldn't we, with Bonny light and aqua iboe grades almost near $60/b with the benchmark of $40/b in the budget, we don't have any excuse. Even if na 3...
I don't think money is the issue but sanction
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 11:25am On Jan 13, 2021
Whyem15:



Do you have any practical experience with any security situation involving the exchange of bullets?
Have you managed more than 20 people in any professional setting?
I'm just asking to know what you are basing your assessment on.

Simply put YES.

And with regards to the parameters you have, l exceed all or them by a considerable margin.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 11:26am On Jan 13, 2021
bidexiii:
#NAF
#SOF

No optic sights
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 11:29am On Jan 13, 2021
Litmus:



In this age of smart phones, Bluetooth, remote control, miniaturisation and all sorts of automation, you’d think majority of rifles would by now be able to use attachments such as “Vid-periscope” so that in the event of situations like the Nigerian soldiers found themselves, on their stomachs under cover, they could leave their tripod mounted rifle over the top and still be able to fire them while viewing what they were shooting at on their mobile phones.

All of that could be mitigated if they had a definitive IFV.

Considering the kind of attrition warfare we are fighting, it's rather strange that we do not have any definitive IFV.

On the other a RWS mounted on a fit for purpose armoured vehicle should suffice in this situation.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 11:29am On Jan 13, 2021
Toju200:
I don't think money is the issue but sanction

If we lobby the Us Govt, I'm sure we can get waivers like e.g India got a special waiver to continue to buy oil from Iran despite sanctions

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by QuietMynd: 11:33am On Jan 13, 2021
Toju200:
First of All...

You can't use one or two or three soilders to classify an Army of Tens of Thousands though they are to represent but they entered with the mindset of oppression it's their problem.that was not taught during training
I mainly focus on those who actually fight with Zeal with The mindset of defending this Country and Thank God I've actually met soilders like that.they are friendly.One even allowed me walk two of his Military working dogs (GSD) I bought milk for them and he appreciated.
If you had this kind of experience with a soilder how would you classify the NA.
Well it's not actually your fault there are numerous cases of Oppression by soilders but Good deeds never make it to the media.just like when Our soilder friend here striker Arab saved a woman who was almost raped by 7 men.

On the Case of soilders running away from BHT when you have a vickers,You gonna have to look at the situation before Coming to conclusions.

I don't worship the military I appreciate their efforts the bad ones can't spoil the good ones for me.anytime I watch some videos of our men in combat I wonder what comes in their mind.these are men with family who the could be flexing with at that time but it's quite the opposite and the people they are defending aren't showing appreciation maybe they should allow terrorists overun the country like they did in syria and iraq ..

Mr toju,
Seriously, u deserve to be appointed as an ambassador of the army.
It will be better if u enlist into the army, u re jst wasting ur talent here.
Mr toju that knows the type of training that is been given to soldiers of the army.
Well done sir.
Do u even know intimidation is part of the army way of life.
There is even a course given to cadet in the NDA. Where they re taught to intimidate.
I have 4gotten the name of the course.
After completing it, they will be sent to intimidate civilian and record it to show it to their superior as evidence.
Failing to do it, they will be punished.
I was told this by a soldier friend.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 12:16pm On Jan 13, 2021
komekn:


Simply put YES.

And with regards to the parameters you have, l exceed all or them by a considerable margin.
Okay, thanks
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 12:22pm On Jan 13, 2021
QuietMynd:

Mr toju,
Seriously, u deserve to be appointed as an ambassador of the army.
It will be better if u enlist into the army, u re jst wasting ur talent here.
Mr toju that knows the type of training that is been given to soldiers of the army.
Well done sir.
Do u even know intimidation is part of the army way of life.
There is even a course given to cadet in the DNA. Where they re taught to intimidate.
I have 4gotten the name of the course.
After completing it, they will be sent to intimidate civilian and record it to show it to their superior as evidence.
Failing to do it, they will be punished.
I was told this by a soldier friend.
I'm just hearing this for the first time...
I asked my friend who's a soldier he said I hasn't heard of anything like that...

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka1: 1:27pm On Jan 13, 2021
komekn:


How do you know they know more than me.

Do not presume about others.

If you lack understanding, have limited exposure or the required experiential knowledge, then speak for yourself.

You really have no idea.

Keyboard warrior strikes again. Go and enlist and show them. You don't know me as well nor do you know the constraints that are having to be dealt with by the military. You're the one with limited knowledge about COIN/CT warfare, so don't come here pretending otherwise. All talk from textbooks.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by QuietMynd: 2:16pm On Jan 13, 2021
Toju200:
I'm just hearing this for the first time...
I asked my friend who's a soldier he said I hasn't heard of anything like that...
Did he attend NDA ?
If yes, he is aware of it, he is jst denying it
If he didn't attend, he might nt be aware of it.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka1: 2:16pm On Jan 13, 2021
See example below of a country having to deal with internal COIN/CT problems and not foreign armies going to other countries for a few months or years then running away.

Egypt Defence Review

@EgyptDefReview

Jan 9

More examples of longstanding tactical frailties in North Sinai: No security, zero situational awareness, unarmed, abstaining from protective equipment, and poor reaction to enemy fire.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1347940005176614915
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jan 13, 2021
Retired Military Veterans are protesting in Abuja according to Channels TV Twitter handle.

Ahead of the Armed forces Remembrance day, retired veterans that have served the Nigerian Arm forces are protesting in Abuja over their pension arrears.

The ex sevice men are appealing to the federal government to approve the payment of minimum wage arrears accuring to them between 2019 till date.

They are demanding the inclusion of officers who fought during the civil war on the military pension scheme.

A representative of the retired soldiers Anthony Agbas who dilivered a letter to officials at the ministry of finance told Channels TV that they have fought for the country and deserve payment of their entitlement such as the debarment allowances that have been approved since 2015, and not all veterans who retired by then
were not paid.

The federal government should look into this and comply because this will discourage those that are still serving and it is not a good way to reward retired veterans after their years of serving their father land
https://www.channelstv.com/2021/01/13/pension-arrears-retired-soldiers-protest-in-abuja/amp/
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 6:21pm On Jan 13, 2021

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:13pm On Jan 13, 2021
Toju200:
https://twitter.com/DefenceInfoNG/status/1349399662504140806?s=20 Those pilots done come again o grin

I love this pilots grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:18pm On Jan 13, 2021
Toju200:
https://twitter.com/DefenceInfoNG/status/1349399662504140806?s=20 Those pilots done come again o grin


#PressRelease #DHQUpdate

OPERATION LAFIYA DOLE: AIR TASK FORCE DESTROYS BOKO HARAM TERRORISTS’ GUN-TRUCKS, NEUTRALIZES SEVERAL INSURGENTS AT MAINOK IN BORNO STATE

1. The Air Task Force of Operation LAFIYA DOLE has dealt another blow on Boko Haram Terrorists (BHTs) operating in the North East of the Country with the destruction of no fewer than 3 gun trucks and neutralization of several insurgents at Mainok in Borno State. The air operation was executed yesterday, 12 January 2021, sequel to intelligence reports indicating that the BHTs, in several gun trucks, were traversing the Jakana-Mainok axis of the State.

2. Accordingly, the Air Task Force scrambled NAF helicopter gunships to engage the convoy of BHT gun trucks and logistics vehicles. The helicopters delivered accurate hits in the target area, resulting in the destruction of 3 of the BHT vehicles, some of which were seen engulfed in flames. Several of the terrorists were also eliminated in the process.

3. The Armed Forces of Nigeria will not relent until all enemies of the nation are neutralised and normalcy is restored to all troubled zones of the country.

JOHN ENENCHE
Major General
Coordinator
Defence Media Operations
Defence Headquarters
13 January 2021.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:19pm On Jan 13, 2021
#operation lafiyadole
#CION

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