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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 10:34am On Jan 13, 2021 |
donjazet: You described the EndSARS protests as Anarchy donjazet: Would you consider this tweet to be inciting or the very least supporting Anarchy? 9 Likes 4 Shares
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 10:36am On Jan 13, 2021 |
I gats greet the senior men here Only God knows how much I've learned about economics and politics in this thread alone 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 10:53am On Jan 13, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:I was speaking primarily about Twitter after all they initiated Trump's ban across other platforms. I don't know too much about Mark Zuckerberg's dealings and political leanings. But I know Jack is a bit more of a conscious cat or a SJW if you will. Now what you need to understand is Trump is Chernobyl right now. This is not about Big Tech again as even vocal supporters of Trump are all backing out on him. His long time friend and supporter Bill Belichick just refused to collect their highest medal for a civilian from Trump, Deutsche Bank a bank that Trump owes hundred of millions of $$, a bank that literally bankrolled the Auschwitz camps say they are done doing business with him. I don't even see why people are doing all sorts of gymnastics to defend Trump as if everything he's facing now is not self inflicted. There was a line that was crossed last Wednesday. Whether you agree or want to downplay it or not. What he promotes is what we saw glimpses of last week and everyone has decided they want no parts of that. It's pretty simple 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 10:59am On Jan 13, 2021 |
pamcode:Had Trump conceded he lost an election he actually lost by over 6 million votes, not dragged a whole entire electoral system, health system and legal system down the mud don't you think the criticism would be less harsh? Is he the first person to be President of a country? Or the first entertainment personality to be President or Governor? No be person be Reagan (who was not a saint by the way) 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:21am On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40: This is why we're questioning what's going on, because this is too coordinated to be a result of some protest. If you're looking primarily at Twitter, I am not. Did you read the Tweets Twitter banned Trump for? These are the tweets 1: “The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!” 2: To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th. Are you honestly telling me that these are the tweets that broke the camels back? What rules did these break really? In the past this man has tweeted that he will physically beat up Joe Biden: Crazy Joe Biden is trying to act like a tough guy. Actually, he is weak, both mentally and physically, and yet he threatens me, for the second time, with physical assault. He doesn’t know me, but he would go down fast and hard, crying all the way. Don’t threaten people Joe tweeted a threat to start a war with Iran: To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS! tweeted that congresswomen of colour should go back 'home' So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudl, tweeted when the looting starts the shooting starts during BLM.... These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen, but was he taken off twitter? No. Were the posts hidden? No. But it's now that he said he's not going to inauguration, that the camel's back broke., and somehow backs of all the camels at all other tech companies broke at the exact same time. Stop it my guy. Instead maybe we should look at what Biden thinks about regulating Social Media Section 230 “immediately should be revoked … for [Facebook cofounder Mark] Zuckerberg and other platforms.” - Joe Bidenhttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/01/17/opinion/joe-biden-nytimes-interview.html Essentially, a man who believes Social Media companies should bear civil and even criminal liability for the posts submitted by their userbase, has just become President of the United States. Not only that, his Party now control both the Senate and the House of Reps. All of sudden, Big Tech are falling over themselves to ban a known enemy of this new President who could make life difficult for them - bruh that's a very dangerous precedent. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:42am On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40: Zuckerberg wanted to step out of policing politics on his platform simply because of the cost of doing so (hiring a lot more fact checkers, Facebook police etc) and for the fact that it would absolve him of the Cambridge Analytica scandal by taking a position that we just don't police. Make no mistake, Zuck is very anti-Trump. His wife is Chinese and his children speak mandarin, and I'm sure they can't stomach Trump's anti-Chinese rhetoric. But the guy just dey separate Business from personal, although they hired a lot of Facebook police to police right-wing groups, infact 10 times more than Twitter but he never challenges Trump directly, same with Bezos. It was Zuck that busted the kidnap plot on Michigan Governor by monitoring right-wing groups on Facebook for example. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:53am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Ibime: The bolded is incorrect. Zuckerberg said last year that he was more than happy welcome more policing on Facebook...as long as it wasn't HIM setting the rules At Facebook, we don’t think tech companies should be making so many decisions about these important issues alone. I believe we need a more active role for governments and regulators, which is why in March last year I called for regulation on harmful content, privacy, elections, and data portability. We stand ready to work with Congress on what regulation could look like in these areas. By updating the rules for the internet, we can preserve what’s best about it—the freedom for people to express themselves and for entrepreneurs to build new things—while also protecting society from broader harms. I would encourage this Committee and other stakeholders to make sure that any changes do not have unintended consequences that stifle expression or impede innovation. Compliance costs are never a factor for Facebook. Joe Biden wants government to police social media. Zuckerberg wants government to police social media. Silencing Joe Biden's enemy on their platform shows that Facebook are ready to partner with the Government. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:53am On Jan 13, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:Anticipating that a US president still in the middle of his term and still eligible for reelection would be banned is a bit naïve I have told you that the events of last week and a culmination of the past misdeeds of Trump was what led to the ban. I don't recall saying it was about his tweets else this mass boycott of Trump would have started and ended on social media. His banks, PGA, Bill Belichick are they part of Big Tech as well? Section 230 is a double edged sword. If it gets revoked even better, it just means every single thing you tweet would most likely be fact checked. Most likely Trump does not grow to this monster he's become and less nutjobs running amok all over social media 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:55am On Jan 13, 2021 |
nihilistjnr: No its not. He dey jump jump after seeing that policing is inevitable but he still wants Govt to set the rules. When Dorsey was going in heavy on policing, Zuck warned them that you can't police the whole network and they should take a laissez-faire approach 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 11:56am On Jan 13, 2021 |
Ibime:So basically he's a bit more measured and less of a radical than Jack. Makes sense 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:02pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40: Twiiter did not say it was a culmination of anything - The said specifically that they banned Trump for those two tweets. Look, if Twitter were really concerned about Trump inciting violence, that tweeted threat to a Nuclear Super Power should have been enough to ban him. The Threat to shoot BLM protesters should be enough to ban him especially as white supremacists actually went on to shoot and kill black protesters. Twiiter did nothing. This level of coordinated action from parties who either had previously either actively refused to police Trump(facebook) or turned a blind eye(twitter), were under threat of being sold(TikTok) or only God know's what(Spotify, Shopify, Reddit, Pornhub) must be triggered by something far more serious than the excuse that Trump has been inciting a mob. The man came to power on the slogan 'drain the swamp'. It didnt take 4 years for the world to realise Trump was a neo-fascist piece of shyttt...so why is this action happening now? In such coordinated manner? And should these companies whose owners have clear political bias really have this kind of power? This is my own concern, not whether Trump is a piece of shytt. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:12pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Ibime: Nahh what Facebook have said is that: At Facebook, we don’t think tech companies should be making so many decisions about these important issues alone That message has been consistent. Facebook do not want to be the ones to set the rules, but if the government sets the rules the will comply. It pays facebook for the government to set the policing rules, because while they will be able to pay the costs of compliance, startups will not, thus entrenching their position at the top. Facebook is even reportedly financially sponsoring the PACT act Section 230 made it possible for every major internet service to be built and ensured important values like free expression and openness were part of how platforms operate. Changing it is a significant decision. However, I believe Congress should update the law to make sure it’s working as intended. We support the ideas around transparency and industry collaboration that are being discussed in some of the current bipartisan proposals, and I look forward to a meaningful dialogue about how we might update the law to deal with the problems we face today. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 12:22pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Nihilistjnr well done for articulating my points regarding this matter at hand. This is purely politics at play and nothing else 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 12:27pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Case solved |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Youngzero2(m): 12:29pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Shekpites now discussing politics in their trend . Wahala for who im club dey play rubbish. E go dey wish say football stop 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 12:34pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
afrodoc2:75m voting block With trump you are guaranteed 50m no matter what trump says or does Inside that 50m bulk of those votes are in some states, congregated enough to sway policy and election Those state's politicians will walk with trump to the gates of hell before going against him |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:41pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:They don't need to say it. You should be able to read the fine print that after what happened last week there was some need for a reaction. Trump's defiant response was just the alibi needed. I have told you before that banning a sitting US President still eligible for reelection is naïve. You're being unrealistic if you expected such an outcome. Trump is always and has always been that lousy neighbor, gf, teammate etc that you tolerate till you don't have to anymore. What you see from other so-called platforms is a form of esprit de corps. You don't want to be the one that didn't kick out a President that led an insurrection on his own country. Same way we saw Merkel lament Trump's ban. There is esprit de corps in all industries for the most part. When have these companies and Captains of industries with political biases not had this power? Which kin JJC yarnin be this Bros Now my question to you is why are Trump's known associates also abandoning him. Is Bill Belichick also in on this plot? Deutsche Bank? Signature Bank? Or were they enabling his excesses till the point they didn't have to anymore or they could do so without consequences. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/facebook-youtube-twitter-remove-video-trump-amid-chaos-capitol-n1253157 He was enabled till he could be enabled no more 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 12:44pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timay(m): 12:44pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40: @bolded. Like. Izzou has said before, when the table turns in future, because it definitely will, the will also accuse you of doing whataboutism. by then it will be too late and a precedent will have been set 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:51pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
timay:Let it be. Let it be. Anybody that still thinks it's about infringement of free speech and not rules that Trump has abused over and over again is on to their own agenda and they need to own it with their chest and stop disguising. Unless you're claiming Trump has never broken any rules on Twitter If you don't believe Trump has caused sufficient carnage then that's on you. Like I said, a reprobate mind will always have excuses to display their whataboutism and not judge cases on their merits. People are acting like this guy is Mandela fighting apartheid or something like that 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timay(m): 12:58pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
A40: All these fact check and social media policing will just result into the creation and invention of something new. Which is an independent social media in future that is not controlled by anyone out of necessity. Just like cryptocurrency was created to deviate from Normal controlled banking, a new social media will rise in future, free of regulation. I'm sure some coding Wizkid somewhere is currently working on it. just a prediction sha. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TrebleChamp(m): 1:45pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Greetings... 19 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Smellymouth: 2:24pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
TrebleChamp: Pls ask them how was their 9th. 17 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawgg: 2:24pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Swissh no dey carry me play. When you are ready to pay your debt and you are online, notify me with this moniker. Dropped my details days ago and nothing. No annoy me o 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 2:30pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Skimpledawgg: Omo the first case of a ghost returning from the dead to troll the nigga he owes money... SwishMMM 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 2:38pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Skimpledawgg: This 2021 go long ohh |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawgg: 2:40pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
nihilistjnr:Baba, the matter con dey vex me. Small 18k wey e go just wire me make I take dey sure my account still dey work o. Since that day swissh hasn't been online. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawgg: 2:41pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
izzou:As in, I don expect alert tire. Small 18k o. Abi he dey run around to pay eruditor own join? Maybe o 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 2:46pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Skimpledawgg: Hahahaha The number you are calling is Swisshed off. So the guy bobo you twice. 15 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nezzjnr: 2:55pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Skimpledawgg: Baba don perform Flip the switch 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 2:56pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Go mountain use Holy binocular to look for him na Skimpledawgg: 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawgg: 3:01pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
afrodoc2:Lol Doc. Me self shock. |
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