jln115:
shifting the goal posts now I see so not Africa anymore but West Africa??

So we going to ignore the massive slave trade in Southern Nigeria pre colonisation ?....

Technically this slave trade your talking about only happen in the south west of Nigeria and if I’m honest from the start as a west African man I have been focusing on west Africa becuase that’s where my knowledge is anyway, it was mainly only happening in Lagos, Lagos was just a newly discovered area with just a few poor chiefs and they wanted more money and influence which is what the British promised them, so they started to kidnap traders and soldiers who were from neighbouring areas just to get some money which was a massive problem but in the larger kingdoms of ile ife, Oyo and Benin they were not as involved as the British were not even close. Also Calabar slave trade post they paid Nigerians to go and fetch slaves the same thing thst happened in kagos happened here poor people looking for money and influence.

I was banned yesterday but now I’m back for the debate if I go missing again just now that nairaland hates people who revels the truth about Nigeria and Africa’s history they are owned and bankrolled by racist whites I think at least.

codemaniacs:


Lagos is the smallest state in Nigeria.
Lagos is the Yoruba's financial centre and not Nigeria. Nigeria has no specific financial centre.
Lagos is only big in population and since it's the smallest state that means it's over populated and not big.

Lagos is where most of Nigeria financial and commercial activities occur
Every country in the world has a financial centre

Abohboy:
I was banned yesterday but now I’m back for the debate if I go missing again just now that nairaland hates people who revels the truth about Nigeria and Africa’s history they are owned and bankrolled by racist whites I think at least.

Who banned you

tylann:

Who banned you

Antispam bot or something

Vlain:


Nope by posting Ur pics to counter my statement then U automatically launched a comparison.
And nope 20% of Ibadan looks like that and it is comparable to tatu Ur best just as U have gracefully shown us.

If it suits your peabrain, then make a fool of yourself. Only a fool would compare the two - and 80% of Ibadan looks like that - You can zoom anywhere in Ibadan on Google maps and it looks like that. Ibadan is shitty like most cities in Nigeria.

tylann:

Lagos is where most of Nigeria financial and commercial activities occur
Every country in the world has a financial centre

most of Nigeria's financial and commercial activities occur in the oil producing states, those are the states that give Nigeria the high revenue it has and that's in eastern Nigeria..

Lagos is south western Nigeria's financial center...

Abohboy:


Technically this slave trade your talking about only happen in the south west of Nigeria and if I’m honest from the start as a west African man I have been focusing on west Africa becuase that’s where my knowledge is anyway, it was mainly only happening in Lagos, Lagos was just a newly discovered area with just a few poor chiefs and they wanted more money and influence which is what the British promised them, so they started to kidnap traders and soldiers who were from neighbouring areas just to get some money which was a massive problem but in the larger kingdoms of ile ife, Oyo and Benin they were not as involved as the British were not even close. Also Calabar slave trade post they paid Nigerians to go and fetch slaves the same thing thst happened in kagos happened here poor people looking for money and influence.

So not West Africa anymore but Lagos more goal post shifting.

Also FYI the Southern Nigerian slave trade existed long before Europeans arrived in Africa!!

Abohboy:


Technically this slave trade your talking about only happen in the south west of Nigeria and if I’m honest from the start as a west African man I have been focusing on west Africa becuase that’s where my knowledge is anyway, it was mainly only happening in Lagos, Lagos was just a newly discovered area with just a few poor chiefs and they wanted more money and influence which is what the British promised them, so they started to kidnap traders and soldiers who were from neighbouring areas just to get some money which was a massive problem but in the larger kingdoms of ile ife, Oyo and Benin they were not as involved as the British were not even close. Also Calabar slave trade post they paid Nigerians to go and fetch slaves the same thing thst happened in kagos happened here poor people looking for money and influence.

Lagos used to be called Oko ( which means farm in yoruba )... it was not and has never been a "newly discovered area", it was a heavily guarded farm settlement, it was so heavily guarded that when the binis came to buy food and other products from there the binis called Eko ( which means war camp in bini )..

slave trade did not happen anywhere in Africa, there were no poor people in Africa and there was also no form of "money" as a means of trading...

Africa is where the natural resources are the british would have needed Africans to extract the natural resources for them so why will the british sell " able bodied slaves " to another continent when the resources they need are in Africa

stop peddling lies about Nigeria... the yorubas fought the british and the igbos, efik also fought the british...

Nigeria only signed a peace agreement with the british in the early 1900s and that's when the fighting against the british reduced and stopped...

jln115:
So not West Africa anymore but Lagos more goal post shifting.

Also FYI the Southern Nigerian slave trade existed long before Europeans arrived in Africa!!

no slave trade happened in southern Nigeria or anywhere in west africa...

stop spreading lies...

Abohboy:
I was banned yesterday but now I’m back for the debate if I go missing again just now that nairaland hates people who revels the truth about Nigeria and Africa’s history they are owned and bankrolled by racist whites I think at least

fvcking delusional you sound like the Kenyans and there fairy tale conspiracy theories

codemaniacs:


no slave trade happened in southern Nigeria or anywhere in west africa...

stop spreading lies...

SMH..........Ignorance is bliss!!

jln115:
So not West Africa anymore but Lagos more goal post shifting.

Also FYI the Southern Nigerian slave trade existed long before Europeans arrived in Africa!!

Evidence please I’ve never heard of this slave trade you speak and we’re talking about west Africa but the brunt of this slave trade happened in Lagos what goalpost is being shifted

codemaniacs:


Lagos used to be called Oko ( which means farm in yoruba )... it was not and has never been a "newly discovered area", it was a heavily guarded farm settlement, it was so heavily guarded that when the binis came to buy food and other products from there the binis called Eko ( which means war camp in bini )..

slave trade did not happen anywhere in Africa, there were no poor people in Africa and there was also no form of "money" as a means of trading...

Africa is where the natural resources are the british would have needed Africans to extract the natural resources for them so why will the british sell " able bodied slaves " to another continent when the resources they need are in Africa

stop peddling lies about Nigeria... the yorubas fought the british and the igbos, efik also fought the british...

Nigeria only signed a peace agreement with the british in the early 1900s and that's when the fighting against the british reduced and stopped...

Lagos was a slave trad export in the early 1600s and late 1800s the British used to buy slaves from there before it became a war camp the British went there to collect slaves from the chiefs, there was money in these days and it ranged from cowries, manillas, iron sheathes and leather strings. Don’t come with that there was no money nonsense poverty wasn’t really a concept I agree with thst but there was money and the British would give these poor chiefs lots of cowries and weapons to collect more slaves

jln115:
fvcking delusional you sound like the Kenyans and there fairy tale conspiracy theories

Actually in this case I’m not fully sure and don’t compare me with flat earthears that’s an insult sorry for the bad spelling not sure how to spell them

jln115:
SMH..........Ignorance is bliss!!

Show us this evidence please, and I’m talking about the trans Atlantic slave trade there was no slavery before that happened

At least there was no slavery in southern nigeria there is a difference between paying people to clean your house and full on slavery

Jln115 ur dead as a liar slave trade started in the 15th century with foreign European countries kidnapping black people, then they moved onto educating them and making them think that the whites were superior so they would pick up arms against their own people, they would then lead their own people onto these ships and then the cycle continued until they were able to convince even kings to give up their own people all though the major empires never gave into this.

Some of the Benin bronzes beautiful arts from Nigeria from 1400s - 1890s, last picture is a Yoruba oil lamp that they kept in houses gotta rep the ancestors. But this was replicated across most of southern Nigeria and it was often much larger and were hung onto large metal poles in the main cities and in the villages large wooden poles

Abohboy:
Jln115 ur dead as a liar slave trade started in the 15th century with foreign European countries kidnapping black people, then they moved onto educating them and making them think that the whites were superior so they would pick up arms against their own people, they would then lead their own people onto these ships and then the cycle continued until they were able to convince even kings to give up their own people all though the major empires never gave into this.

Slavery didn't start in the 15th century you muppet!!

Abohboy:


Lagos was a slave trad export in the early 1600s and late 1800s the British used to buy slaves from there before it became a war camp the British went there to collect slaves from the chiefs, there was money in these days and it ranged from cowries, manillas, iron sheathes and leather strings. Don’t come with that there was no money nonsense poverty wasn’t really a concept I agree with thst but there was money and the British would give these poor chiefs lots of cowries and weapons to collect more slaves

jln115:
SMH..........Ignorance is bliss!!

you said "there was money in these days and it ranged from cowries, manillas, iron sheathes and leather strings."....

what do Africans who have gold, diamonds, emeralds and other rare gems and metals in their land want to do with "cowries, manillas, iron sheathes and leather strings" do you know how stupid that sounds

the brits/e:uropeans hated and still hate Africans, why will they trade with people they hate and wanted and still want to kill off

why will they sell weapons to Africans when those weapons can be against them

Africans were and are very tribal, in that era they will attack and enslave people of the same ethnicity and people of other ethnicities because there was mutual respect and understanding...

Abohboy:


Show us this evidence please, and[b] I’m talking about the trans Atlantic slave trade there was no slavery before that happened[/b]

OMG you are ret@rded!! Slavery existed in Africa centuries before the trans Atlantic slave trade was even a thing!! even the Southern Nigerian slave trade existed long before the Trans Atlantic slave trade!

More artefacts

Abohboy:


Actually in this case I’m not fully sure and don’t compare me with flat earthears that’s an insult sorry for the bad spelling not sure how to spell them

Dude you are literally saying NL is funded by white racist..............does that not sound delusional to you?

codemaniacs:



you said "there was money in these days and it ranged from cowries, manillas, iron sheathes and leather strings."....

what do Africans who have gold, diamonds, emeralds and other rare gems and metals in their land want to do with "cowries, manillas, iron sheathes and leather strings" do you know how stupid that sounds

the brits/e:uropeans hated and still hate Africans, why will they trade with people they hate and wanted and still want to kill off

why will they sell weapons to Africans when those weapons can be against them

Africans were and are very tribal, in that era they will attack and enslave people of the same ethnicity and people of other ethnicities because there was mutual respect and understanding...

WTF is your point bru?

Abohboy:


Evidence please I’ve never heard of this slave trade you speak and we’re talking about west Africa but the brunt of this slave trade happened in Lagos what goalpost is being shifted

You never heard of the southern Nigerian slave trade?..........just google it bro!!

jln115:
OMG you are ret@rded!! Slavery existed in Africa centuries before the trans Atlantic slave trade was even a thing!! even the Southern Nigerian slave trade existed long before the Trans Atlantic slave trade!

Slavery existed but nothing the form of the Atlantic slave trade, in Africa slavery happened when they beat others in war, and these people refused to assimilate into the empire like they renounced the king if they accepted him then they wouldn’t be enslaved there was no southern Nigeria slave trade prove it to me, they never traded slaves before the Europeans came they fought each other in wars every now and then and took slaves from the empire but in most cases the people either became warriors for the kingdom, farmers for the kingdom gave the peopl knowledge or were actually slaves because they had no skills and refused to join the empire

jln115:
You never heard of the southern Nigerian slave trade?..........just google it bro!!

I did and it only talked about 1885-1959

Abohboy:


I did and it only talked about 1885-1959

Did you miss this part?

"The traditional slave trade in Southern Nigeria preceded the arrival of European influence"

codemaniacs:



you said "there was money in these days and it ranged from cowries, manillas, iron sheathes and leather strings."....

what do Africans who have gold, diamonds, emeralds and other rare gems and metals in their land want to do with "cowries, manillas, iron sheathes and leather strings" do you know how stupid that sounds

the brits/e:uropeans hated and still hate Africans, why will they trade with people they hate and wanted and still want to kill off

why will they sell weapons to Africans when those weapons can be against them

Africans were and are very tribal, in that era they will attack and enslave people of the same ethnicity and people of other ethnicities because there was mutual respect and understanding...

They did use those as money they didn’t use those gems and emeralds etc. As money they used those in their artefacts and as designs for their palace, go and research some history and see what I mean

jln115:
Did you miss this part?

"The traditional slave trade in Southern Nigeria preceded the arrival of European influence"

Okay let me look again, modifying this okay I checked again but it still didn’t provide evidence of this it just said it I don’t accept anecdotes without any data. Say anything you want but unless you provide artefacts, paintings, depictions, arts or any scholarly mentions I will honestly disregard it but you are right the Wikipedia article did say thst but if I’m honest I could easily go and edit it if I wanted to to say what ever I want it to say so Wikipedia isn’t a very good source just saying

Abohboy:
Jln115 ur dead as a liar slave trade started in the 15th century with foreign European countries kidnapping black people, then they moved onto educating them and making them think that the whites were superior so they would pick up arms against their own people, they would then lead their own people onto these ships and then the cycle continued until they were able to convince even kings to give up their own people all though the major empires never gave into this.

Slavery started in northern Africa after the fall of Egypt around the 10th century, the entire northern and north eastern Africa fell into slavery and e:uropeans and the euro-arabs enslaved northern Africans and taught them i:slam.

it was after they enslaved northern Africans then 800 years later ( late 1700s, early 1800s or 18 century ) they used the descendants of those northern Africans who were now m:uslims to attack the southwards and that's when conflict started happening across Africa...

the people who were enslaved in the 15th century were African Americans and other Africans on the American continent...