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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NextD18: 2:46pm On Jan 23, 2021
Useless LampFraud!!!

Ogun kill am!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 2:49pm On Jan 23, 2021
How you guys have managed to reduce greatness to scoring against big teams. If someone doesn't do the job in the group stage, will they be a 2nd round, quarters, semis and finals?

In the league, if someone doesn't step up against Palace, West Brom, Sheffield, Brighton, Newcastle, West Ham and the likes, will wins against the top teams be enough to hand you the title?

Every football match is important...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 2:50pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

Klop has 4 major trophies in 20 years of coaching.

Emery has 4 majors trophies, he even disgraced Klopp in 2016 to win Europa.

Allegri is by far better than Klopp in all ramifications. Na English press dey deceive una.

Klop is still far behind compared to what senior managers have achieved. He never reach.

Someone that even got relegated in Germany.
Major trophies pass major trophies.

Any intelligent analyst will always apply context to their argument. A manager good enough to have a better head to head vs Pep and Mourinho over a large sample size would perform at same level if not better than them armed with the same quality of players over the course of his career

Klopp has more CLs and CL Final appearances than Allegri

I will not even dignify the Emery banter with a response.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:51pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

Where are the players? Are ready to list them?

Stop making a mockery of your school fees.

Eriksen 113 G/A in EPL alone since Jan 2014 and you are asking me to bring overall stats to show someone with more than 97 G/A overall.

Did you bump your head?

Dele Alli alone has 118 G/A for Spurs since 2015

There is no single AM who has played in EPL since Jan 2014 that Mata outproduced. He is the worst of the worst.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 2:53pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

Football stats na my strength and stamina. It chokes real bad. cheesy

You can't win.

This argument that you're arguing now, I was arguing 8 years ago, with Ibime when Mata was actually dropping numbers...infact the year Mata won POTY, I won the office fantasy league by captaining Mata all season...this was on Yahoo fantasy gaan because the main FPL never too popular like that.

I was hitting this mofo with stats from every angle, and what he does is conveniently ignore the clever point you made with research, whilst continuing to hammer home his own angle...kinda like Raumdeuter.

But where he differs to Dayo, is that las las he was actually proven right on the Matter, no pun intended.

Rightly or wrongly, Mourinho would finally pursue Mata to Manyoo, where he would end up as a bit part player.

Now, when all of this was happening there's no way the mofo could have really anticipated the rapid decline of Mata, and whilst I don't think Mata's fate was necessarily decided entirely for football reasons, but ultimately Mata slipped from POTY to forgotten man very very quickly.

I was arguing Matas case before all of this happened and I took the L. There's no chance of winning with the ink already dry, and the facts not supporting your position....and then you're arguing against Ibime...bruh, forget it, unless you want to go on for years..

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NextD18: 2:53pm On Jan 23, 2021
patrickmuf:
How you guys have managed to reduce greatness to scoring against big teams. If someone doesn't do the job in the group stage, will they be a 2nd round, quarters, semis and finals?

In the league, if someone doesn't step up against Palace, West Brom, Sheffield, Brighton, Newcastle, West Ham and the likes, will wins against the top teams be enough to hand you the title?

Every football match is important...
People who are naturally stoopid can't relate to this.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 3:01pm On Jan 23, 2021
As you lots are arguing about a Yoonited player to ease the pain, don’t forget that we are playing Wolves next grin

#LampardOut resumes shortly, please stay tuned

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NextD18: 3:02pm On Jan 23, 2021
Ibime:


Stop making a mockery of your school fees.

Eriksen 113 G/A in EPL alone since Jan 2014 and you are asking me to bring overall stats to show someone with more than 97 G/A overall.

Did you bump your head?

Dele Alli alone has 118 G/A for Spurs since 2015

There is no single AM who has played in EPL since Jan 2014 that Mata outproduced. He is the worst of the worst.
But why are you crying? cheesy
Have I been hitting a nerve?

LampFraud is obviously your side chic and weakpoint, if I decide to go petty and personal like you've been doing all long by trolling LampFraud, na sub you go dey catch up and down.

E be like you no know who you dey follow do those jabs. cheesy


Simple question, you'll be bleeding unnecessarily. I've only been comparing Lampard to Mata since 2011 and you are crying like this, if I decide to reason his stupidity, classlessness and Fraudlent activities in Chelsea as a coach, you go hear am.

Ogun kill LampFraud!
Ogun kill en papa!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NextD18: 3:05pm On Jan 23, 2021
A40:
Major trophies pass major trophies.

Any intelligent analyst will always apply context to their argument. A manager good enough to have a better head to head vs Pep and Mourinho over a large sample size would perform at same level if not better than them armed with the same quality of players over the course of his career

Klopp has more CLs and CL Final appearances than Allegri

I will not even dignify the Emery banter with a response.

Lampard has a better head to head result against Mou, is it safe to say he's better?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 3:07pm On Jan 23, 2021
Arsenal are gone
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 3:07pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

People who are naturally stoopid can't relate to this.
I don't subscribe to using foul language...Calm down, na just argument.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 3:08pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

But why are you crying? cheesy
Have I been hitting a nerve?

LampFraud is obviously your side chic and weakpoint, if I decide to go petty and personally like you've been doing all long by trolling LampFraud, na sub you go dey catch up and down.

E be like you no know who you dey follow do those jabs. cheesy


Simple question, you'll be bleeding unnecessarily. I've only been comparing Lampard to Mata since 2011 and you are crying like this, if I decide to reason his stupidity, classlessness and Fraudlent activities in Chelsea as a coach, you go hear am.

Ogun kill LampFraud!
Ogun kill en papa!

Really?

Wow
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NextD18: 3:09pm On Jan 23, 2021
nihilistjnr:


You can't win.

This argument that you're arguing now, I was arguing 8 years ago, with Ibime when Mata was actually dropping numbers...infact the year Mata won POTY, I won the office fantasy league by captaining Mata all season...this was on Yahoo fantasy gaan because the main FPL never too popular like that.

I was hitting this mofo with stats from every angle, and what he does is conveniently ignore the clever point you made with research, whilst continuing to hammer home his own angle...kinda like Raumdeuter.

But where he differs to Dayo, is that las las he was actually proven right on the Matter, no pun intended.

Rightly or wrongly, Mourinho would finally pursue Mata to Manyoo, where he would end up as a bit part player.

Now, when all of this was happening there's no way the mofo could have really anticipated the rapid decline of Mata, and whilst I don't think Mata's fate was necessarily decided entirely for football reasons, but ultimately Mata slipped from POTY to forgotten man very very quickly.

I was arguing Matas case before all of this happened and I took the L. There's no chance of winning with the ink already dry, and the facts not supporting your position....and then you're arguing against Ibime...bruh, forget it, unless you want to go on for years..
I perfectly understand your point. More like wasting my time giving and arguing with facts against him. I get.

But then at the bolded, if it'll take pettiness to drive home my point just like he's been doing, I'll gladly do it, I'll do it my way, no quoting, but e must catch the sub. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 3:11pm On Jan 23, 2021
Some of y'all are wild sha. Why una dey drag una legends upandan, indirectly rubbishing your own club?

Why rival fans no go get mouth to call us "shekpites" lipsrsealed

It is well. We meuvee

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:12pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

Lampard has a better head to head result against Mou, is it safe to say he's better?
Does he have a better H2H record than Mourinho and Wenger as well over several matches with trophies to back it up, abi wetin be this weak question?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by olabode89(m): 3:13pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

Lampard has a better head to head result against Mou, is it safe to say he's better?

"over a large sample size"

You missed that key phrase.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:13pm On Jan 23, 2021
BikeMan:
As you lots are arguing about a Yoonited player to ease the pain, don’t forget that we are playing Wolves next grin

#LampardOut resumes shortly, please stay tuned

Are you praying that we lose the next match?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NextD18: 3:17pm On Jan 23, 2021
A40:
Does he have a better H2H record than Mourinho and Wenger as well over several matches with trophies to back it up, abi wetin be this weak question?
I now get your point. But then, achievements are the major things that speaks for managers to be considered as legends.

Klopp is still coming up in that aspect, A manger with 4 major trophies in 20 years neva reach.

Make we know the levels we place these managers abeg.

In 2 years time, he'll be considered as a small boy to Flick too.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:19pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

But why are you crying? cheesy
Have I been hitting a nerve?

LampFraud is obviously your side chic and weakpoint, if I decide to go petty and personal like you've been doing all long by trolling LampFraud, na sub you go dey catch up and down.

E be like you no know who you dey follow do those jabs. cheesy


Simple question, you'll be bleeding unnecessarily. I've only been comparing Lampard to Mata since 2011 and you are crying like this, if I decide to reason his stupidity, classlessness and Fraudlent activities in Chelsea as a coach, you go hear am.

Ogun kill LampFraud!
Ogun kill en papa!

Ogun will kill Lampfraud but not Lampard.

You are making it hard for anyone to even buy into your points. Slow your roll.


Meanwhile, whether Mata na entity or nonentity, that's not my problem. Raumdeuter, just like you always asked Silva and other players in the past, where is Ballack and Debruyne's UCL trophy and World cup? grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 3:19pm On Jan 23, 2021
airmark:


Are you praying that we lose the next match?
Pray? Why would I do that when the boys will go ahead to collect L themselves? grin

Watch them maltreat innocent Luton Town but become toothless against their mates by Wednesday

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NextD18: 3:21pm On Jan 23, 2021
airmark:


Ogun will kill Lampfraud but not Lampard.

You are making it hard for anyone to even buy into your points. Slow your roll.


Meanwhile, whether Mata na entity or nonentity, that's not my problem. Raumdeuter, just like you always asked Silva and other players in the past, where is Ballack and Debruyne's UCL trophy and World cup? grin
cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin

Guy free me.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by olabode89(m): 3:22pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

I now get your point. But then, achievements are the major things that speaks for managers to be considered as legends.

Klopp is still coming up in that aspect, A manger with 4 major trophies in 20 years neva reach.

Make we know the levels we place these managers abeg.

In 2 years time, he'll be considered as a small boy to Flick too.

Klopp have proved his capability as a top coach by achieving the following;

1. Winning the EPL with over 95 pts
2. Winning the UCL and also losing two finals
3. Winning a league title in a country with a dominant and perennial league winner in Bayern

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:23pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

I now get your point. But then, achievements are the major things that speaks for managers to be considered as legends.

Klopp is still coming up in that aspect, A manger with 4 major trophies in 20 years neva reach.

Make we know the levels we place these managers abeg.

In 2 years time, he'll be considered as a small boy to Flick too.
When you give Klopp teams he can spend £150m per annum without having to sell anybody else then let me know

Since Klopp came to England he has the lowest net spend among all the top teams. He has always taken over moribund teams with no money to spend living on past glories

Learn to argue with context

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 3:24pm On Jan 23, 2021
BlueMann:
Some of y'all are wild sha. Why una dey drag una legends upandan, indirectly rubbishing your own club?

Why rival fans no go get mouth to call us "shekpites" lipsrsealed

It is well. We meuvee

Na why I dey try calm NextD18 down, because it will soon go past Mata matter, and opaks will be yarned, ridiculous positions will be taken, and then battle lines will be drawn

It's no longer an academic exercise on trying to analyse Mata's impact at Chelsea, it's now about proving Ibime wrong at all cost. But if it's not a wager, fogerrit.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NextD18: 3:30pm On Jan 23, 2021
olabode89:


Klopp have proved his capability as a top coach by achieving the following;

1. Winning the EPL with over 95 pts
2. Winning the UCL and also losing two finals
3. Winning a league title in a country with a dominant and perennial league winner in Bayern
Who should I compare with? Allegri or Emery?

1. Emery won Europa league thrice, if not straight. Beating Klopp in one of the finals and also lost a finals to Chelsea.

2. Emery won Ligue 1 title with 5 French domestic cups.

3. Emery has never been relegated as a manger[I stand to be corrected]

In all, Klopp has managed for 20 years with not more than major trophies than Emery.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NextD18: 3:33pm On Jan 23, 2021
A40:
When you give Klopp teams he can spend £150m per annum without having to sell anybody else then let me know

Since Klopp came to England he has the lowest net spend among all the top teams. He has always taken over moribund teams with no money to spend living on past glories

Learn to argue with context
My point is that those managers I listed got more achievements than Klopp.

How they got it or how much they spent in getting them isn't actually my concern.

Fact has it that Klop has achieved lesser compared to them.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by olabode89(m): 3:35pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

Who should I compare with? Allegri or Emery? cheesy

1. Emery won Europa league thrice, if not straight. Beating Klopp in one of the finals and also lost a finals to Chelsea.

2. Emery won Ligue 1 title with 5 French domestic cups.

3. Emery has never been relegated as a manger[I stand to be corrected]

In all, Klopp has managed for 20 years with not more than major trophies than Emery.


Are you serious??

One UCL is way prestigious than 500 Europa league titles. Every manager before and after Emery that coached PSG after their Qatari takeover won a league title. Garcia's Ligue 1 title with Monaco carries more weight that Emery's Ligue 1 titles.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:40pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

My point is that those managers I listed got more achievements than Klopp.

How they got it or how much they spent in getting them isn't actually my concern.

Fact has it that Klop has achieved lesser compared to them.
Sorry you are just yarnin Okoto dust at this point.

You even mentioned Ligue 1 where PSG spends 5x it's competition. What did he achieve in Europe? When he faced his mates he oversaw the greatest chokejob in CL history while Klopp oversaw the greatest comeback in CL history

You expect Klopp to dominate Europe with Dortmund who had no money? Fall back son

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NextD18: 3:43pm On Jan 23, 2021
olabode89:


Are you serious??

One UCL is way prestigious than 500 Europa league titles. Every manager before and after Emery that coached PSG after their Qatari takeover won a league title. Garcia's Ligue 1 title with Monaco carries more weight that Emery's Ligue 1 titles.
So it's justified to say Di Matteo is better than Emery, Allegri, Simeon, Wenger and Conte combined? Because of UCL?

Make una dey calm down with UCL hype abeg. Chelsea won it while siting on 6th position in EPl. Europa is even more stressful and hard too, if it was easy, Klop would have won it when he went there.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:45pm On Jan 23, 2021
NextD18:

So it's justified to say Di Matteo is better than Emery, Allegri, Simeon, Wenger and Conte combined? Because of UCL?


Make una dey calm down with UCL hype abeg. Chelsea won it while siting on 6th position in EPl. Europa is even more stressful and hard too, if it was easy, Klop would have won it when he went there.
Lol. So you're equating Matteo to Klopp.

This guy is a clown grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibunkun1(m): 3:46pm On Jan 23, 2021
nihilistjnr:


Na why I dey try calm NextD18 down, because it will soon go past Mata matter, and opaks will be yarned, ridiculous positions will be taken, and then battle lines will be drawn

It's no longer an academic exercise on trying to analyse Mata's impact at Chelsea, it's now about proving Ibime wrong at all cost. But if it's not a wager, fogerrit.


True.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NextD18: 3:48pm On Jan 23, 2021
A40:
Sorry you are just yarnin Okoto dust at this point.

You even mentioned Ligue 1 where PSG spends 5x it's competition. What did he achieve in Europe? When he faced his mates he oversaw the greatest chokejob in CL history while Klopp oversaw the greatest comeback in CL history

You expect Klopp to dominate Europe with Dortmund who had no money? Fall back son

He faced Klopp in Europe and embarrassed him with a comeback to win Europa. cheesy

A manager winning UCL isn't fully a yardstick to measure greatness.

Anybody can win it, Di Matteo did, he still no get level reach Simeon that hasn't won it.

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