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Who Gives Children by Nobody: 7:00pm On Jan 23, 2021
hello everyone, this is my first time in the religion section. I came to ask a question that has been troubling my heart for a very long time. let me clear somethings, I am a Christian, an instrumentalist in church, I don't and will never doubt God's power, I don't question God's decision.
Now my question, they say God is the father of all creation, meaning he alone can create humans, if God alone can create humans, who create the children that are collected from small gods, because the rate at which people ask small gods for children is very high and most of them always get the child they ask for. later in future the child may or may not become a bone in the neck. I asked this question in Sunday school but no valid answer was given to me, so if you have the answer to my question please answer me.
Re: Who Gives Children by harmargedon: 8:25pm On Jan 23, 2021
dannyrhymes600:
hello everyone, this is my first time in the religion section. I came to ask a question that has been troubling my heart for a very long time. let me clear somethings, I am a Christian, an instrumentalist in church, I don't and will never doubt God's power, I don't question God's decision.
Now my question, they say God is the father of all creation, meaning he alone can create humans, if God alone can create humans, who create the children that are collected from small gods, because the rate at which people ask small gods for children is very high and most of them always get the child they ask for. later in future the child may or may not become a bone in the neck. I asked this question in Sunday school but no valid answer was given to me, so if you have the answer to my question please answer me.
I do, but it's lengthy, and it would go against your faith. But since you asked I'll tell you anyway, and be as brief as I can be.
Re: Who Gives Children by Jeromejnr(m): 8:54pm On Jan 23, 2021
dannyrhymes600:
hello everyone, this is my first time in the religion section. I came to ask a question that has been troubling my heart for a very long time. let me clear somethings, I am a Christian, an instrumentalist in church, I don't and will never doubt God's power, I don't question God's decision.
Now my question, they say God is the father of all creation, meaning he alone can create humans, if God alone can create humans, who create the children that are collected from small gods, because the rate at which people ask small gods for children is very high and most of them always get the child they ask for. later in future the child may or may not become a bone in the neck. I asked this question in Sunday school but no valid answer was given to me, so if you have the answer to my question please answer me.

Well, fallen angels slept with women in the bible and the women gave birth to giants.

God later wiped out those giants because it was an abomination.

If your story of idol gods somehow giving children is true, the above should help with your answer.
Re: Who Gives Children by harmargedon: 8:55pm On Jan 23, 2021
the Bible says "Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain,
'Move from here to there,' and it will move.
Nothing will be impossible for you." it never said faith in God or gods it just said faith. so you don not have to be a Christian, Muslim or pagan to achieve this. But why faith not to a specific God or gods but just faith on yourself.
Whenever you pray you connect to something greater like the same way your wireless device does. these people utilizes this faith and create a god of it, their prayer is answered immediately because they believe without doubts, it's not the gods that give the child but it's their faith, but they believe it's the God they worship that's why without it they cannot do anything. their ability to bend nature to their will. Same way Jesus could walk on water or raise the dead.
in an ideal situation, it is a natural law that when you have sex you will have a child, but if I connect to nature I can bend it and put a child there.
Re: Who Gives Children by harmargedon: 9:01pm On Jan 23, 2021
I tried my best to be concise, so you'd just have to read carefully to understand, but if you don't then I'll have to explain wide.
Re: Who Gives Children by Kobojunkie: 10:37pm On Jan 23, 2021
dannyrhymes600:
hello everyone, this is my first time in the religion section. I came to ask a question that has been troubling my heart for a very long time. let me clear somethings, I am a Christian, an instrumentalist in church, I don't and will never doubt God's power, I don't question God's decision.
Now my question, they say God is the father of all creation, meaning he alone can create humans, if God alone can create humans, who create the children that are collected from small gods, because the rate at which people ask small gods for children is very high and most of them always get the child they ask for. later in future the child may or may not become a bone in the neck. I asked this question in Sunday school but no valid answer was given to me, so if you have the answer to my question please answer me.
All things are directly or indirectly sourced from the same God, and that includes children -- all souls belong to God, whether you asked sango for a child or you don't even believe in God or gods at all. undecided
same's mercy and compassion has been, from the beginning, on all both the wicked and just and so His grace is on all His creation. It isn't just Christians who enjoy the "grace" of God - that privilege belongs to every living being. undecided

Now as for your comment on the children you assume are sourced through small gods becoming into a "bone in the neck" of society, let me tell you here that that is stupid thinking on your part. There is no said predictor of how a child will turn out in time... It all depends on ultimately on the choices made by the soul in question. There are serial killers known world over who were born into "Christian homes" -even Hitler had a somewhatt "Christian" upbringing. undecided
Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 11:24pm On Jan 23, 2021
Kobojunkie:
All things are directly or indirectly sourced from the same God, and that includes children -- all souls belong to God, whether you asked sango for a child or you don't even believe in God or gods at all. undecided
same's mercy and compassion has been, from the beginning, on all both the wicked and just and so His grace is on all His creation. It isn't just Christians who enjoy the "grace" of God - that privilege belongs to every living being. undecided

Now as for your comment on the children you assume are sourced through small gods becoming into a "bone in the neck" of society, let me tell you here that that is stupid thinking on your part. There is no said predictor of how a child will turn out in time... It all depends on ultimately on the choices made by the soul in question. There are serial killers known world over who were born into "Christian homes" -even Hitler had a somewhatt "Christian" upbringing. undecided
you started by saying something reasonable then you had no choice but to include the word "stupid" that's my problem with some christians, your emotions always takes the better part of you when trying to prove something. your answer is not good enough. shalom

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Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 11:34pm On Jan 23, 2021
harmargedon:
the Bible says "Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain,
'Move from here to there,' and it will move.
Nothing will be impossible for you." it never said faith in God or gods it just said faith. so you don not have to be a Christian, Muslim or pagan to achieve this. But why faith not to a specific God or gods but just faith on yourself.
Whenever you pray you connect to something greater like the same way your wireless device does. these people utilizes this faith and create a god of it, their prayer is answered immediately because they believe without doubts, it's not the gods that give the child but it's their faith, but they believe it's the God they worship that's why without it they cannot do anything. their ability to bend nature to their will. Same way Jesus could walk on water or raise the dead.
in an ideal situation, it is a natural law that when you have sex you will have a child, but if I connect to nature I can bend it and put a child there.
I have seen a Christian sister who was trusting on God for a child but she never got any, she went to a certain festival like that and asked their gods for a child and got pregnant the next month. are we to say her faith wasn't strong enough when she asked God or God knows she wasn't ready for a child
Re: Who Gives Children by Kobojunkie: 12:41am On Jan 24, 2021
dannyrhymes600:

you started by saying something reasonable then you had no choice but to include the word "stupid" that's my problem with some Christians, your emotions always takes the better part of you when trying to prove something. your answer is not good enough. shalom
What has emotions got to do with the meaning in the word "stupid"? undecided

If the notion in question is stupid thinking then it is simply that..stupid thinking. What else would it be? What is it not? undecided

Like I said....
Kobojunkie:
All things are directly or indirectly sourced from the same God, and that includes children -- all souls belong to God, whether you asked sango for a child or you don't even believe in God or gods at all. undecided
same's mercy and compassion has been, from the beginning, on all both the wicked and just and so His grace is on all His creation. It isn't just Christians who enjoy the "grace" of God - that privilege belongs to every living being. undecided

Now as for your comment on the children you assume are sourced through small gods becoming into a "bone in the neck" of society, let me tell you here that that is stupid thinking on your part. There is no said predictor of how a child will turn out in time... It all depends on ultimately on the choices made by the soul in question. There are serial killers known world over who were born into "Christian homes" -even Hitler had a somewhatt "Christian" upbringing. undecided
Re: Who Gives Children by harmargedon: 7:23am On Jan 24, 2021
dannyrhymes600:

I have seen a Christian sister who was trusting on God for a child but she never got any, she went to a certain festival like that and asked their gods for a child and got pregnant the next month. are we to say her faith wasn't strong enough when she asked God or God knows she wasn't ready for a child
if she got pregnant without meeting her husband then it's God or the gods that gave her a child, which we know it's impossible. but if she had sex with her husband and got pregnant then it's just a natural law that she should get pregnant. The ability to use your faith grants you access to bend nature to your will. You give children, that's the law of reproduction. I have never heard of someone that got pregnant without a man. she asked in faith and she received, it doesn't matter whom you ask, faith is the key to moving mountains.
Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 7:48am On Jan 24, 2021
The time God gave them only coincide with when they went to babalawo

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Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 8:19am On Jan 24, 2021
harmargedon:
if she got pregnant without meeting her husband then it's God or the gods that gave her a child, which we know it's impossible. but if she had sex with her husband and got pregnant then it's just a natural law that she should get pregnant. The ability to use your faith grants you access to bend nature to your will. You give children, that's the law of reproduction. I have never heard of someone that got pregnant without a man. she asked in faith and she received, it doesn't matter whom you ask, faith is the key to moving mountains.
don't get me wrong, she has been meeting her husband for years and was never pregnant, she went to the gods doesn't mean she didn't meet her husband before she got pregnant.
Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 8:20am On Jan 24, 2021
Sodiquinone:
The time God gave them only coincide with when they went to babalawo
I don't totally agree with you, why didn't the time come since
Re: Who Gives Children by AntiChristian: 8:54am On Jan 24, 2021
My belief is that all things happen by the will of Allah.

And everything happens at the right time fixed for it to happen.

A man destined to die at 7pm will die exactly at that time. He may have been unconscious for days or months but the date and time of death remain unchanged.

The time we'll give birth is fixed. It doesn't matter how impatient we are to go to babalawo or change from one Alfa to Pastor.

Time is constant. People may change.
Re: Who Gives Children by harmargedon: 9:37am On Jan 24, 2021
dannyrhymes600:

don't get me wrong, she has been meeting her husband for years and was never pregnant, she went to the gods doesn't mean she didn't meet her husband before she got pregnant.
I know a couple that has been married for fifteen years before they got a child. it could be coincidence or the work of the gods. but it still requires the action from the both parties too. The action of the gods is to enhance the procedure and ensure smooth passage of the sperm to the egg. And yes the gods do answer prayers too. our fore fathers were not stupid to have believed in them if they didn't answer their prayer.
Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 10:04am On Jan 24, 2021
harmargedon:
I know a couple that has been married for fifteen years before they got a child. it could be coincidence or the work of the gods. but it still requires the action from the both parties too. The action of the gods is to enhance the procedure and ensure smooth passage of the sperm to the egg. And yes the gods do answer prayers too. our fore fathers were not stupid to have believed in them if they didn't answer their prayer.
does this mean the gods can also create humans
Re: Who Gives Children by xproducer: 10:05am On Jan 24, 2021
Op, first and foremost - what "gods"? “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God." - Isaiah 44:6 (Also Isaiah 44:8, Isaiah 45:5, Isaiah 45:21, Ephesians 4:6, 1 Timothy 2:5)

"You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!" - James 2:19

Second, all souls come from and belong to GOD! (Ezekiel 18:4).

So, children come from GOD - "Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, The fruit of the womb is a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior, So are the children of one’s youth." - Psalm 127:3-4

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The Lord GOD reigns... over all!
"All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." - John 1:3

"For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist." - Colossians 1:16-17
Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 10:06am On Jan 24, 2021
AntiChristian:
My believe is that all things happen by the will of Allah.

And everything happens at the right time fixed for it to happen.

A man destined to die at 7pm will die exactly at that time. He may have been unconscious for days or months but the date and time of death remain unchanged.

The time we'll give birth is fixed. It doesn't matter how impatient we are to go to babalawo or change from one Alfa to Pastor.

Time is constant. People change.
hmmmm your point is very valid, thumbs up

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Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 10:07am On Jan 24, 2021
xproducer:
Op, first and foremost - what "gods"? “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God." - Isaiah 44:6 (Also Isaiah 44:8, Isaiah 45:5, Isaiah 45:21, Ephesians 4:6, 1 Timothy 2:5)

"You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!" - James 2:19

Second, all souls come from and belong to GOD! (Ezekiel 18:4).

So, children come from GOD - "Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, The fruit of the womb is a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior, So are the children of one’s youth." - Psalm 127:3-4

------------------------

The Lord GOD reigns... over all!
"All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made." - John 1:3

"For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist." - Colossians 1:16-17
so you don't think there are small gods or you have never heard of small gods
Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 10:09am On Jan 24, 2021
AntiChristian:
My believe is that all things happen by the will of Allah.

And everything happens at the right time fixed for it to happen.

A man destined to die at 7pm will die exactly at that time. He may have been unconscious for days or months but the date and time of death remain unchanged.

The time we'll give birth is fixed. It doesn't matter how impatient we are to go to babalawo or change from one Alfa to Pastor.

Time is constant. People change.
your point may be valid but your Monika ain't cool at all
Re: Who Gives Children by AntiChristian: 10:15am On Jan 24, 2021
dannyrhymes600:

your point may be valid but your Monika ain't cool at all

Leave my moniker and take the truth!
Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 10:16am On Jan 24, 2021
AntiChristian:

Leave my moniker and take the truth!
okay oh
Re: Who Gives Children by harmargedon: 10:28am On Jan 24, 2021
dannyrhymes600:

does this mean the gods can also create humans
nope, only you have the power to create another human. All they do is enhance the procedure. The same way only a goat can create another goat, a cow another cow, so also humans only have the power to create another imagine in our likeness.

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Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 10:53am On Jan 24, 2021
harmargedon:
nope, only you have the power to create another human. All they do is enhance the procedure. The same way only a goat can create another goat, a cow another cow, so also humans only have the power to create another imagine in our likeness.
okay,best answer so far, thanks

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Re: Who Gives Children by xproducer: 7:27pm On Jan 24, 2021
dannyrhymes600:

so you don't think there are small gods or you have never heard of small gods
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Nope!

"Will a man make gods for himself, Which are not gods?" - Jeremiah 16:20

"For all the gods of the peoples are idols, But the Lord made the heavens." - Psalm 96:5

"But then, indeed, when you did not know God, you served those which by nature are not gods." - Galatians 4:8

"Then you call on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the Lord; and the God who answers by fire, He is God.” So all the people answered and said, “It is well spoken.” - 1 Kings 18:24

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"Let all be put to shame who serve carved images, Who boast of idols. Worship Him, all you gods." - Psalm 97:7
Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 7:57pm On Jan 24, 2021
xproducer:

+++++++++++++++++++

Nope!

"Will a man make gods for himself, Which are not gods?" - Jeremiah 16:20

"For all the gods of the peoples are idols, But the Lord made the heavens." - Psalm 96:5

"But then, indeed, when you did not know God, you served those which by nature are not gods." - Galatians 4:8

"Then you call on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the Lord; and the God who answers by fire, He is God.” So all the people answered and said, “It is well spoken.” - 1 Kings 18:24

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"Let all be put to shame who serve carved images, Who boast of idols. Worship Him, all you gods." - Psalm 97:7
what do you now call the likes of sango, amadioha, esu, ayelala, ogun etc
Re: Who Gives Children by sonmvayina(m): 9:13pm On Jan 24, 2021
dannyrhymes600:

what do you now call the likes of sango, amadioha, esu, ayelala, ogun etc

The orishas....they are not gods. But chanels to understand God. .

Only God creates human. The man and woman provides the body of the baby but only God provides the spirit. But For God to provide the spirit the mature male sperm must fertilize a matured female eggs.

The big question between pro life and pro choice as concerning abortion is when does God provide the spirit. At which point does the foetus becomes conciouse...
That aside, the man and woman provide the body while God provides the spirit.
Re: Who Gives Children by sonmvayina(m): 9:14pm On Jan 24, 2021
dannyrhymes600:

what do you now call the likes of sango, amadioha, esu, ayelala, ogun etc

They are the sons of God referred to in the book of Job...
Re: Who Gives Children by Nobody: 10:52pm On Jan 24, 2021
sonmvayina:


The orishas....they are not gods. But chanels to understand God. .

Only God creates human. The man and woman provides the body of the baby but only God provides the spirit. But For God to provide the spirit the mature male sperm must fertilize a matured female eggs.

The big question between pro life and pro choice as concerning abortion is when does God provide the spirit. At which point does the foetus becomes conciouse...
That aside, the man and woman provide the body while God provides the spirit.
okay sir
thanks

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