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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 10:58am On Feb 17, 2021
patrickmuf:
You this unfortunate idiot, you shiuld learn to stay off my mention...

Only if you watch Wolves play, you'd realize that Adama is an old fashion winger whose productivity depends on having a deadly striker up front ...
Look at this clown talking about Adama back then cheesy. The Werey has finally agreed Adama is a one trick pony.

patrickmuf:
Adama, one trick pony?
No end product?
Not a starter?

Abeg which kind thing person dey read for here?
The problem is that you don't watch Wolves that's why you're spewing the above lies. Wolves have just signed Semedo to ensure Traore returns back to the RW. Even as a wing back, that guy tormented Manchester City. He created at least 3 clear cut goal scoring chances.

In the league, as an out and out right winger, there's none close to him. FYI, Salah and Mahrez are RWFs...

And was disgraced grin
spillo1:

LMFAO....... Stop showing your ignorance. It's becoming clear daily you don't know much.

* He is like fellani useful in only one aspect of the game, Beat the fullbacks with his pace and put in a cross. He is one dimensional.

*Adama has 5goals in 100+ Epl appearance.

* He was benched 11times in the league last season. He is not a certified starter for wolves.



Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:07am On Feb 17, 2021
afrodoc2:


We for just jejely wait one extra year and buy Mbappe from Monaco instead of Martial. That was the way it happened with Quaresma and Ronaldo.

The way things dey go Martial might have a Quaresma-like career while Mbappe might have a Ronaldo-like one.

Only if we could see the future
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 11:08am On Feb 17, 2021
patrickmuf:
Whether home or abroad we needed a point, just one point...
Lol... True sha.
No excuse
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:11am On Feb 17, 2021
patrickmuf:

I said it here before the season began that Ole has his favorites so, no matter how well a bench player plays when given the opportunity, he will find himself back on the bench in the next game...Check out the game against Sevilla in the UEL last season, Martial and Rashford were missing chance after chance but what did Ole do? He left them on the pitch until the dying moments of the game.

Ole doesn't favor competition for places and that's why Martial knows he can play rubbish and still get into the team. Look at Telles, he is supposed to provide fierce competition for Shaw but Ole has reduced him to a bench role...

We are talking about a new CB and RB to compete with AWB but don't bet against Ole sticking with Lindelof - Maguire partnership whilst we begin to question the quality of the new addition same with AWB and any possible RB addition...

Look at Liverpool, Klopp didn't have any reservation to send Firmino to the bench when Joya was fit and firing on all cylinders.

Look at City, Walker and Cancelo are fighting for that RB slot but if Ole was coach, we'd be saying Cancelo is not good enough...See how they have coped without Aguero and KDB, it's only possible because they have a working system and Pep trust his players to deliver when called upon...


This talk na full AGENDA

Tell me when last did martial start as a CF In the premier league?

Also for the lindelof-maguire partnership there was a time bailly played like 3 games in a row just to return back to injury according to the coach.


When greenwood started firing in all cylinders didn't James take a sit on the bench?

Tell me you will prefer telles to the current Shaw?

What about pogba, when he was underperforming where did he find himself?

Make una take am easy with agenda na


If you say ole hardly makes sub during a game, I will agree with you

But competition for places, na agenda be that jare.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:13am On Feb 17, 2021
patrickmuf:
Liverpool throw a 2 goal lead? Can you bet on it?
Even with my enemy's head, No

But your statements, just make me remember the Leipzig game angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 11:14am On Feb 17, 2021
Leyqute:


I’m certain Rashford cannot score the first goal. It requires a mixture of precise dribbling ability, deft movement and a perfect finish with his weaker foot. And a lot of composure for the finish. Rashford doesn’t have all those in abundance.

The second was a left footed finish into an empty net. Rashford is not that bad with his left foot so there’s more chance of him burying that one than losing it.

The third goal looks simple but the shot is hard to execute. Mbappe went for both power and placement. He put it in a place that will be hard for the keeper to get to. And it was pretty fast too.

Rashford would most likely go solely for power. And he’d try to target the second post - if he went for any placement at all. I bet he’d hit it straight at the goalkeeper. Or over the bar. It’s is quite likely that he’ll hesitate about a second whilst he contemplated dribbling a defender before hitting it. There’s a slim chance of him burying that than of him scoring it.

That’s how horrible he’s become when it comes to finishing chances. Olé is a striker. He should know these things. He should be telling them that the most important thing is the finishing. The final ball. If you dribble well but lose the ball at the end you’re not different from someone who is passing to the Opponent
Rashford has scored 17 goals this season which is impressive but quite a number of his goals have been deflections or balls that bounced off the keeper's hand into the net.
That guy no sabi anything about placement or finesse shots
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:14am On Feb 17, 2021
patrickmuf:

KingAlabi, do you agree?

Not totally,
Ole hardly makes subs

Can we say it is in his nature?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:15am On Feb 17, 2021
KingAlabi:


Only if we could see the future

Just wishful thinking, though the scouts should have known about since everybody in European football knew about him from age 12 or so. It took me only a few games to know he was next level.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 11:16am On Feb 17, 2021
I once thought we should sign Traore sha. I take it back
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 11:16am On Feb 17, 2021
Leyqute:


I’m certain Rashford cannot score the first goal. It requires a mixture of precise dribbling ability, deft movement and a perfect finish with his weaker foot. And a lot of composure for the finish. Rashford doesn’t have all those in abundance.

The second was a left footed finish into an empty net. Rashford is not that bad with his left foot so there’s more chance of him burying that one than losing it.

The third goal looks simple but the shot is hard to execute. Mbappe went for both power and placement. He put it in a place that will be hard for the keeper to get to. And it was pretty fast too.

Rashford would most likely go solely for power. And he’d try to target the second post - if he went for any placement at all. I bet he’d hit it straight at the goalkeeper. Or over the bar. It’s is quite likely that he’ll hesitate about a second whilst he contemplated dribbling a defender before hitting it. There’s a slim chance of him burying that than of him scoring it.

That’s how horrible he’s become when it comes to finishing chances. Olé is a striker. He should know these things. He should be telling them that the most important thing is the finishing. The final ball. If you dribble well but lose the ball at the end you’re not different from someone who is passing to the Opponent
I don't believe finishing is a thing that can be taught it's either you have it or you don't. Players can be taught how to get into good postion or create chances but finishing is more of instinct. Try and imagine yourself as a striker in a goal scoring position your mind might have that perfect picture but your body can't do it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:17am On Feb 17, 2021
LostMyZeal:


Haha...Pochettino says hi to you and the rest who were busy quacking about how he's not the kinda coach we need cool

Anyways...quack quack says the duck

Y'all can quack in your sticky muds now kiss

Oya Alabi ... lead the procession ...you have the floor mud grin

You just wan start agenda

Well was he the coach when ole did this?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:19am On Feb 17, 2021
Trevor012:

Look at this clown talking about Adama back then cheesy. The Werey has finally agreed Adama is a one trick pony.



And was disgraced grin


k
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:19am On Feb 17, 2021
KingAlabi:


Not totally,
Ole hardly makes subs

Can we say it is in his nature?


Or he is not able to assess situations quickly and make prompt adjustments? Probably why he is always watching the game on his iPad like he is streaming Netflix.

Decking boys have noticed all his flaws but we still remain impartial just so that peace can reign.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:20am On Feb 17, 2021
Leyqute:


I’m certain Rashford cannot score the first goal. It requires a mixture of precise dribbling ability, deft movement and a perfect finish with his weaker foot. And a lot of composure for the finish. Rashford doesn’t have all those in abundance.

The second was a left footed finish into an empty net. Rashford is not that bad with his left foot so there’s more chance of him burying that one than losing it.

The third goal looks simple but the shot is hard to execute. Mbappe went for both power and placement. He put it in a place that will be hard for the keeper to get to. And it was pretty fast too.

Rashford would most likely go solely for power. And he’d try to target the second post - if he went for any placement at all. I bet he’d hit it straight at the goalkeeper. Or over the bar. It’s is quite likely that he’ll hesitate about a second whilst he contemplated dribbling a defender before hitting it. There’s a slim chance of him burying that than of him scoring it.

That’s how horrible he’s become when it comes to finishing chances. Olé is a striker. He should know these things. He should be telling them that the most important thing is the finishing. The final ball. If you dribble well but lose the ball at the end you’re not different from someone who is passing to the Opponent

For the third goal rash wouldn't shoot at first, sure, he would trap, push a bit, a leave a hole in the net. That I am sure of angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:21am On Feb 17, 2021
afrodoc2:


Or he is not able to assess situations quickly and make prompt adjustments? Probably why he is always watching the game on his iPad like he is streaming Netflix.

Decking boys have noticed all his flaws but we still remain impartial just so that peace can reign.

Yeah ole is not proactive, most times he tries to read the opponents which becomes a little too late.

But all in all
Making sub doesn't mean he doesn't trust his bench, because those bench get to start another game from the very beginning
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:24am On Feb 17, 2021
afrodoc2:


Just wishful thinking, though the scouts should have known about since everybody in European football knew about him from age 12 or so. It took me only a few games to know he was next level.

We have only next level though


GREENWOOD angry

If he doesn't succeed, then it's black magic definitely.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:25am On Feb 17, 2021
Lana1:
I once thought we should sign Traore sha. I take it back
grin cheesy cheesy
That time I been dey ring am out loud, make I no dig Sha

Let the sleeping dogs lie cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:30am On Feb 17, 2021
. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:30am On Feb 17, 2021
Lana1:
Rashford has scored 17 goals this season which is impressive but quite a number of his goals have been deflections or balls that bounced off the keeper's hand into the net.
That guy no sabi anything about placement or finesse shots

No be everything be power. Look at Bruno’s last EPL goal.

Rashford needs to work on his finishing. A lot of work. He will easily score 35+ goals a season if he’s burying those chances.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:33am On Feb 17, 2021
Panther7:
I don't believe finishing is a thing that can be taught it's either you have it or you don't. Players can be taught how to get into good postion or create chances but finishing is more of instinct. Try and imagine yourself as a striker in a goal scoring position your mind might have that perfect picture but your body can't do it.

It can be taught. Or better put, it can be imprinted on you. If you repeat a sequence of action enough times that it becomes second nature to you.

When Ronaldo 7 gets into certain positions you know how he’s going to execute his finish and he almost always hits the target- that’s if it doesn’t go in. Same with Messi and chipping the GK. Those skills were perfected.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:33am On Feb 17, 2021
KingAlabi:


This talk na full AGENDA

Tell me when last did martial start as a CF In the premier league?

Also for the lindelof-maguire partnership there was a time bailly played like 3 games in a row just to return back to injury according to the coach.


When greenwood started firing in all cylinders didn't James take a sit on the bench?

Tell me you will prefer telles to the current Shaw?

What about pogba, when he was underperforming where did he find himself?

Make una take am easy with agenda na


If you say ole hardly makes sub during a game, I will agree with you

But competition for places, na agenda be that jare.
Ole doesn't allow for a fair competition and it's the fact...

Once you get in the team, you will continue playing until you get injured...

Ighalo was doing very well last season at a point but then Ole killed his confidence by continously benching him...

Cavani is only playing because he is a big name and Martial has been terrible...

The example you gave about James doesn't cut it because James is simply not good enough. He is on the bench because he is trash and not because of competition...

I did not say I prefer Telles, what I meant is that Telles was bought not to be a bench warmer but a direct competition for Shaw however Ole has continued to use Shaw. You might want to argue that Shaw has been better but has Telles played a run of 5 games for your to judge him?

Pogba? It is only a clueless coach that will bench Pogba for any of Fred or McTominay...

Pogba is a very good player, he showed it at Juventus and in the France national team but here, every player looks bad because we don't have a working system or a coach that is tactically astute...

Apart from Bruno, is there any player we have signed that has looked as good as he was in his previous club?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:35am On Feb 17, 2021
KingAlabi:
Which can mentality be this na

angry angry angry

Already throwing in the towel
Oga calm down read...

After you go dey shout Agenda everywhere...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:35am On Feb 17, 2021
KingAlabi:


For the third goal rash wouldn't shoot at first, sure, he would trap, push a bit, a leave a hole in the net. That I am sure of angry

The defender would’ve been on him by then. The extra touch is not needed. Draxler laid a good pass that needed no controlling. His hesitation and extra touches are the reason he has lost goals this season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:39am On Feb 17, 2021
afrodoc2:


Just wishful thinking, though the scouts should have known about since everybody in European football knew about him from age 12 or so. It took me only a few games to know he was next level.
I waited until Mbappe came up against Juventus for me to decide on him...

Monaco lost but I saw a fearless youngster...He faced Chiellini and didn't panic...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 11:41am On Feb 17, 2021
KingAlabi:
Which can mentality be this na

angry angry angry

Already throwing in the towel

Sacarsm?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Panther7(m): 11:41am On Feb 17, 2021
Leyqute:


It can be taught. Or better put, it can be imprinted on you. If you repeat a sequence of action enough times that it becomes second nature to you.

When Ronaldo 7 gets into certain positions you know how he’s going to execute his finish and he almost always hits the target- that’s if it doesn’t go in. Same with Messi and chipping the GK. Those skills were perfected.
You can't use Messi and Ronaldo as examples these guys are Exceptional footballers. If finishing can be taught Ole (Ole was a striker) would have taught Rashford how to finish, he has been in charge for 3 years and Rashford is still learning movement in the box and how to finish.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 11:42am On Feb 17, 2021
Panther7:
I don't believe finishing is a thing that can be taught it's either you have it or you don't. Players can be taught how to get into good postion or create chances but finishing is more of instinct. Try and imagine yourself as a striker in a goal scoring position your mind might have that perfect picture but your body can't do it.

It can definitely be taught.There are some players who had the knack for finishing naturally but there were also many many great strikers who werent naturally finishers but developed it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 11:43am On Feb 17, 2021
Panther7:
You can't use Messi and Ronaldo as examples these guys are Exceptional footballers. If finishing can be taught Ole (Ole was a striker) would have taught Rashford how to finish, he has been in charge for 3 years and Rashford is still learning movement in the box and how to finish.

Because Ole cant teach Rashford doesnt mean it cant be taught. Rashford may have just not found the right teacher.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:44am On Feb 17, 2021
KingAlabi:
grin cheesy cheesy
That time I been dey ring am out loud, make I no dig Sha

Let the sleeping dogs lie cheesy

You need to look deeper into the stats cos they can be misleading. I agree he needs to improve on his scoring but those assist stats do not tell the whole story.

You know key passes are a more objective way of assessing creativity as assists are dependent on the receiver of the pass finishing well. He is averaging more key passes per game (1.4) in the league than everybody not named Bruno in our team and he is still completing more dribbles than all our players. The problem is those chances he is creating are not being converted.

Even the Podence that people have been hyping lately averages only 0.8 per game. In fact if you combine both Wolves and United squads together Adama is 3rd in key passes per game behind only Bruno and Neto and is way ahead in first place in terms of completed dribbles. In a better system with better players he will surely do better.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:47am On Feb 17, 2021
KingAlabi:
Which can mentality be this na

angry angry angry

Already throwing in the towel

He said it is NOT IMPOSSIBLE. Which one be throwing in the towel again?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 11:48am On Feb 17, 2021
Leyqute:


No be everything be power. Look at Bruno’s last EPL goal.

Rashford needs to work on his finishing. A lot of work. He will easily score 35+ goals a season if he’s burying those chances.
I doubt there's much improvement that can be done on his finishing.
That's why after he scored that goal away to Crystal Palace last season, i savoured it because I knew it was going to be a while before we see him score anything that good again
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 11:49am On Feb 17, 2021
patrickmuf:
.
Ole doesn't allow for a fair competition and it's the fact...

Once you get in the team, you will continue playing until you get injured...

Ighalo was doing very well last season at a point but then Ole killed his confidence by continously benching him...
Trusting your player with the hope that he gets back to his best will you call that unfair competition, you mention ighalo, how good was martial last season?, So because ighalo has a good run in a game, he benches your main striker in the next game?
Cavani is only playing because he is a big name and Martial has been terrible...
Is this an excuse or what??!!, What is cavani excluded from the equation?!!, Martial be terrible and cavani benching him, isnt it the competition we are talking about?
The example you gave about James doesn't cut it because James is simply not good enough. He is on the bench because he is trash and not because of competition...
Another excuse or what?, Before James was benched do you know he had the highest assist in your team??!!

I did not say I prefer Telles, what I meant is that Telles was bought not to be a bench warmer but a direct competition for Shaw however Ole has continued to use Shaw. You might want to argue that Shaw has been better but has Telles played a run of 5 games for your to judge him?
has VDB played 5 games too?
Can we both agree that the games you have seen telles and Shaw play since telles came in, Shaw has been way better?
That is competition!!


Pogba? It is only a clueless coach that will bench Pogba for any of Fred or McTominay...

Pogba is a very good player, he showed it at Juventus and in the France national team but here, every player looks bad because we don't have a working system or a coach that is tactically astute...
Oga I get am before no be property, before pogba was benched was he on a bad run?, And since he picked up form back, has he been playing ??!

Apart from Bruno, is there any player we have signed that has looked as good as he was in his previous club?
Bissaka
James( trust me he is way better than he was at Swansea before he lost form)

Tell me which player brought in by ole has flopped?

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