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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 2:25pm On Feb 19, 2021
basilico:


Renewables can never replace fossils
When they fail blame goes to fossils.
Is that rocket science. Pushing a heavily subsidized product for that a feel good moment. Lunacy at its best

Germany is almost 50% powered by renewables and has no issue with weather nor have they experienced a blackout. We know you ignorant conservatives do things in half measures so its no surprise your outlook is truly coloured by your mental failings.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 2:26pm On Feb 19, 2021
JackBizzle:





Aren't amish people extremists?

Are you a sellout because of money and special treatments?
How?

Amish, Hutterites and Menonnites are good folks in Saskatchewan and Alberta.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 2:27pm On Feb 19, 2021

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 2:29pm On Feb 19, 2021
sanpipita:


No point arguing with them sometimes its deliberate, I even find the while green energy debate irrelevant, no serious person will be blaming something that's yet to be implemented for energy and weather crisis

As the Yoruba say "it caused us to open our mouths" in surprise at how they pivot to easy to debunk lies so effortlessly.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 2:36pm On Feb 19, 2021
raumdeuter:


If you watch CNN, there is no night they won't report about GOP breaking. That has been a constant thing on their medium everyday

I once asked why is it that its the left that keeps hammering the narrative of GOP division and Trump?

Check CNN this evening, I can assure you there will be a story about Trump who is no longer president. I suspect that Trump is the only thing that unites the left so its in their interest to keep it up

New York Governor who was once the covid hero was found to be suppressing the death numbers like Trump did,

Is now threatening another politician that he will destroy him like Trump normally does

Let us see how many minutes CNN or MSNBC devote to that story vs Story about GOP division and Trump

Lol and so what? is GOP not divided? Didn't Trump and Mitch write articles against themselves, ain't MAGAs threatening to deal with RINOs in coming primaries.

CNN are basically reporting what's happening in the party, let GOP put their house in order let's see how CNN will manufacture divisions

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by JackBizzle: 2:43pm On Feb 19, 2021
salford1:

How?

Amish, Hutterites and Menonnites are good folks in Saskatchewan and Alberta.


Extremists to modern technology and morality!

Have you been to an Amish town?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by JackBizzle: 2:45pm On Feb 19, 2021
LordReed:


He is so full of arrogance in ignorance.

Lol...I'm not surprised about him. He is a Trumper after all

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 3:13pm On Feb 19, 2021
LordReed:


Germany is almost 50% powered by renewables and has no issue with weather nor have they experienced a blackout. We know you ignorant conservatives do things in half measures so its no surprise your outlook is truly coloured by your mental failings.

Perhaps you are right. But we deal with the facts. Germany is an advanced 1st world country that many Europeans and Americans cannot match their tech prowess. That said, these charts below tell us all something.

1. Renewables will basically be an addition to the power mix for most countries for several years to come.
2. When base power supply sources (coal, oil and natural gas) dips, strangely, renewable energy production also dips - there is a reason for that. Most of what drives these "renewables" depend on base power supply sources.
3. There will never be a situation in the world, where we can achieve 100% renewable power supply.

So, the "adventure" of going completely green is impossible. The best we can achieve is a world where we have a mix of energy sources - and that will definitely outlast you.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 3:36pm On Feb 19, 2021
sanpipita:


Lol and so what? is GOP not divided? Didn't Trump and Mitch write articles against themselves, ain't MAGAs threatening to deal with RINOs in coming primaries.

CNN are basically reporting what's happening in the party, let GOP put their house in order let's see how CNN will manufacture divisions

Don't mind the wailers. They have a lot of wailing to do the next 4 years. Was it CNN that cause vice president Pence and president Trump to not be on speaking terms the final weeks of their term?
Was it CNN that screamed ""Hang Mike Pence" on January 6th during the capitol riots.

Was it CNN that force over 10 republican cabinet members to resign from the Trump administration followings the Trump inspired insurgency of January 6th?

Was it CNN that forced most senior republicans members including Congress members and governors to condemn president Trump after the January 6th capital riots.

CNN must be very powerful for dividing the once mighty GOP.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:41pm On Feb 19, 2021
sanpipita:


Lol and so what? is GOP not divided? Didn't Trump and Mitch write articles against themselves, ain't MAGAs threatening to deal with RINOs in coming primaries.

CNN are basically reporting what's happening in the party, let GOP put their house in order let's see how CNN will manufacture divisions

The GOP leaning media houses are not reporting it with the same fervour CNN has been which probably makes the Nikki Haley statement right
The left media are really hoping and pushing the narrative more than what is on ground

Will CNN report what is happening in their own party too?
Why are they not devoting the same energy to Gov Cuomo who is basically taking pages out of Trumpism. Or is it that the Cuomo incidents are not happening?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 3:49pm On Feb 19, 2021
ono:


Perhaps you are right. But we deal with the facts. Germany is an advanced 1st world country that many Europeans and Americans cannot match their tech prowess. That said, these charts below tell us all something.

1. Renewables will basically be an addition to the power mix for most countries for several years to come.
2. When base power supply sources (coal, oil and natural gas) dips, strangely, renewable energy production also dips - there is a reason for that. Most of what drives these "renewables" depend on base power supply sources.
3. There will never be a situation in the world, where we can achieve 100% renewable power supply.

So, the "adventure" of going completely green is impossible. The best we can achieve is a world where we have a mix of energy sources - and that will definitely outlast you.


It's not possible for a country to have only once source of energy. That would be the height of craziness. It means if that sole source of energy fails, the whole country would suffer an energy crisis. Countries design and energy mix according to their specific peculiarities. It involves renewables such as hydro, solar, wind, thermal and then non renewables such as coal, oil and gas. There is also nuclear which is becoming increasingly viable with advancing technology. Right thinking people are promoting more of clean energy (those with little or no co2 and other green house emissions) and discouraging the use of dirty hydrocarbon sources of energy for the future. This cannot be done in an instant. China that is the leading promoter of clean energy is also still the highest use of dirty energy (coal). Everything is for future projections.
We can't wait until the full catastrophic effects of green house gasses hit us before we start planning.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 3:53pm On Feb 19, 2021
wirinet:


It's not possible for a country to have only once source of energy. That would be the height of craziness. It means if that sole source of energy fails, the whole country would suffer an energy crisis. Countries design and energy mix according to their specific peculiarities. It involves renewables such as hydro, solar, wind, thermal and then non renewables such as coal, oil and gas. There is also nuclear which is becoming increasingly viable with advancing technology. Right thinking people are promoting more of clean energy (those with little or no co2 and other green house emissions) and discouraging the use of dirty hydrocarbon sources of energy for the future. This cannot be done in an instant. China that is the leading promoter of clean energy is also still the highest use of dirty energy (coal). Everything is for future projections.
We can't wait until the full catastrophic effects of green house gasses hit us before we start planning.


I think you should read again what you put up there and tell me why Xibiden, Quid Pro Joe (your dear leader) cancelled the Keystone Pipeline project that's supposed to bring cheap crude to Americans, as masterfully crafted by Trump.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 4:41pm On Feb 19, 2021
ono:



I think you should read again what you put up there and tell me why Xibiden, Quid Pro Joe (your dear leader) cancelled the Keystone Pipeline project that's supposed to bring cheap crude to Americans, as masterfully crafted by Trump.
I avoid arguing with right wing extremists, that miss characterise themseves as conservatives. It's like arguing with a broken record player. you guys just keep repeating your outrageous conspiracy theories ad nauseam.

The Keystone project had been very controversial for decades. Biden had promised to cancel it once he gets into power.

Here are some of the controversies;
Keystone oil spill casts doubt on the safety of proposed Keystone XL pipeline
Living on Earth November 28, 2019 ·

On Oct. 29, 2019, a nearly 400,000-gallon oil spill was discovered in the Keystone pipeline system in North Dakota. The spill inundated a wetland with heavy crude oil mined from the Alberta tar sands.

In addition to the risk the pipeline poses to waterways, a federal judge in Montana ruled last year that the State Department had not adequately analyzed the risk of oil spills to endangered species, Hayes says. A leak anywhere along the pipeline would have significant impacts on species that live along the route.

Read the full report - https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-11-28/keystone-oil-spill-casts-doubt-safety-proposed-keystone-xl-pipeline

Another issue with the Keystone project was strong opposition from the Native Americans who have filed several law suits against the project.

Native American Tribes File Lawsuit Seeking To Invalidate Keystone XL Pipeline Permit September 10, 2018

In a new bid to stop the Keystone XL pipeline, two Native American communities are suing the Trump administration, saying it failed to adhere to historical treaty boundaries and circumvented environmental impact analysis. As a result, they are asking a federal judge in Montana to rescind the 2017 permit and block any further construction or use of the controversial pipeline.

As NPR's Bill Chappell reported, in 2015, the State Department, which has jurisdiction over transnational oil pipelines, "rejected a permit for the Keystone XL pipeline." The following year, President Barack Obama "ordered work halted on the Dakota pipeline after Native American groups and other activists protested its route near culturally sensitive sites in North Dakota."
https://www.npr.org/2018/09/10/646523140/native-american-tribes-file-lawsuit-seeking-to-invalidate-keystone-xl-pipeline-p


Please note that the project Biden cancelled was not the whole Keystone project but the Keystone XL which is another pipeline altogether.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 4:44pm On Feb 19, 2021
wirinet:
Republicans are the epitome of incompetence and ignorance. Texas decided to generate its own power and they failed catastrophically, but the governor in one breadth is blaming democrats for the green new deal and wind turbines, and in another is blaming their equipments freezing over. Mind you wind turbines generates only 10% of total power in Texas.

See the report here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY2eqCjuJzE

Texas is the only state that decided to do it alone and cut off from the national grid and Texas is the only state with system failure. And Texas is not even the closest to the artic circle. What do you then expect from states and other countries on the arctic? Alaska should be back in the ice age.

---Even Donald Trump Jr---statement is blaming the 'Democratic' Gov of Texas---this is how him and his father's minions deliberately peddle false information---

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 4:45pm On Feb 19, 2021
raumdeuter:


The GOP leaning media houses are not reporting it with the same fervour CNN has been which probably makes the Nikki Haley statement right
The left media are really hoping and pushing the narrative more than what is on ground

Will CNN report what is happening in their own party too?
Why are they not devoting the same energy to Gov Cuomo who is basically taking pages out of Trumpism. Or is it that the Cuomo incidents are not happening?

She isn't right, she's basically say CNN reports are what's causing divisions in GOP how?

Fox has been regularly focusing on Cuomo now and I don't see you complaining about it, nobody has said Fox wants to create problems for Cuomo.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 4:46pm On Feb 19, 2021
wirinet:


Don't mind the wailers. They have a lot of wailing to do the next 4 years. Was it CNN that cause vice president Pence and president Trump to not be on speaking terms the final weeks of their term?
Was it CNN that screamed ""Hang Mike Pence" on January 6th during the capitol riots.

Was it CNN that force over 10 republican cabinet members to resign from the Trump administration followings the Trump inspired insurgency of January 6th?

Was it CNN that forced most senior republicans members including Congress members and governors to condemn president Trump after the January 6th capital riots.

CNN must be very powerful for dividing the once mighty GOP.

I don't get it, these guys are dancing naked in public and they are blaming CNN.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 5:13pm On Feb 19, 2021
ono:


Perhaps you are right. But we deal with the facts. Germany is an advanced 1st world country that many Europeans and Americans cannot match their tech prowess. That said, these charts below tell us all something.

1. Renewables will basically be an addition to the power mix for most countries for several years to come.
2. When base power supply sources (coal, oil and natural gas) dips, strangely, renewable energy production also dips - there is a reason for that. Most of what drives these "renewables" depend on base power supply sources.
3. There will never be a situation in the world, where we can achieve 100% renewable power supply.

So, the "adventure" of going completely green is impossible. The best we can achieve is a world where we have a mix of energy sources - and that will definitely outlast you.




LMFAO! So the US is not a advanced 1st world country. Bwahahahahaha!

What happens when fossil fuels run out or are you thinking they are infinite?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:18pm On Feb 19, 2021
zendi:

My opinion stands unscathed, which is based on widely observed lunacies of the left.
You only displayed typical left wing intolerance and cancel mentality, thereby further vindicating my opinion.

As if the warped opinions you create inside your head needs vindicating before you believe it. When did evidence and the facts start mattering to you?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 5:20pm On Feb 19, 2021
wirinet:

I avoid arguing with right wing extremists, that miss characterise themseves as conservatives. It's like arguing with a broken record player. you guys just keep repeating your outrageous conspiracy theories ad nauseam.

The Keystone project had been very controversial for decades. Biden had promised to cancel it once he gets into power.

Here are some of the controversies;


Another issue with the Keystone project was strong opposition from the Native Americans who have filed several law suits against the project.


Please note that the project Biden cancelled was not the whole Keystone project but the Keystone XL which is another pipeline altogether.

In the battle for survival, there is no middle grounds. You're either on the right side (the Lord side) or the wrong (left side - the Devil side). And I'm not preaching here. There is never, I repeat, never a middle ground. So, there's no such thing as left leaning right. No grey areas (black and white) and no right leaning left.

So, your description of my political belief is apt. I am a conservative, extreme right - (ultra-right, actually, no-nonsense person). And we are clear.

As per the Keystone pipeline, it takes a masterful hand like that of Trump to get that pipeline project up and running again, because we all know that the benefits far outweighs the consequences. All the thrash talks about wildlife and stuff are just political grandstanding and inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

Man was told categorically:

"Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it." We are doing just that.

So, all those tree-hugging lunatics, heretics, and wild-life conservationists who make love to the earth and animals are in for a rough ride. They stand no chance at all - and will all be wiped out, when the time comes.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 5:26pm On Feb 19, 2021
LordReed:


LMFAO! So the US is not a advanced 1st world country. Bwahahahahaha!

What happens when fossil fuels run out or are you thinking they are infinite?

Hey man, don't join the gangs of "Fight like hell = Carry arms and become Insurrectionists". You are too smart for that.

Look, we've been tapping this God-given resource for hundreds of years - since before the days of the Pharaohs. And we discover more every now and then. I tell you this because I know. The oil and gas resource volume we have now will outlast you and your grandchildren.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:11pm On Feb 19, 2021
ono:

In the battle for survival, there is no middle grounds. You're either on the right side (the Lord side) or the wrong (left side - the Devil side). And I'm not preaching here.

Typical narrow mindedness that sees everything as a battle and cannot find a middle path. And he says that and claims he is not preaching here, lol.

If you were god ono, you'd eliminate those who don't bow down to you, but see how the Lord God adopts the middle path of live and let live.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 6:13pm On Feb 19, 2021
budaatum:


Typical narrow mindedness that sees everything as a battle and cannot find a middle path. And he says that and claims he is not preaching here, lol.

If you were god ono, you'd eliminate those who don't bow down to you, but see how the Lord God adopts the middle path of live and let live.

The narrowmindedness you allude to applies in "the battle for survival". Clear?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:16pm On Feb 19, 2021
ono:


The narrowmindedness you allude to applies in "the battle for survival". Clear?
No. It applies to your narrow view of there being only two sides which makes everyone friend or foe.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 6:21pm On Feb 19, 2021
budaatum:

No. It applies to your narrow view of there being only two sides which makes everyone friend or foe.

If you think I don't have friends who are "moderates", you are living in La La land.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:44pm On Feb 19, 2021
ono:


If you think I don't have friends who are "moderates", you are living in La La land.

Have you not heard of the white racist who's best friend is black? It was discussed on here a while ago, you must have missed it.

This has nothing to do with your friends, ono, but about how your mind seems to work.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 7:02pm On Feb 19, 2021
budaatum:


Have you not heard of the white racist who's best friend is black? It was discussed on here a while ago, you must have missed it.

This has nothing to do with your friends, ono, but about how your mind seems to work.

If you're a shrink, sorry, I never liked those people (that much). And sorry, you can't quite go into the deeper recess of my mind based solely on what you've read here. That's childish and shallow thinking. Tough luck. You're not like Ibime though, perhaps we can have a good conversation.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 7:15pm On Feb 19, 2021
ono:


Hey man, don't join the gangs of "Fight like hell = Carry arms and become Insurrectionists". You are too smart for that.

Look, we've been tapping this God-given resource for hundreds of years - since before the days of the Pharaohs. And we discover more every now and then. I tell you this because I know. The oil and gas resource volume we have now will outlast you and your grandchildren.

LMAO!

There are 1.65 trillion barrels of proven oil reserves in the world as of 2016.

The world has proven reserves equivalent to 46.6 times its annual consumption levels. This means it has about 47 years of oil left (at current consumption levels and excluding unproven reserves). https://www.worldometers.info/oil/

You think the likes of Shell and Exxon pouring money into R & D for alternative energy sources is because they like to waste it right.

EDIT: It seems sarcasm is lost on you. LoL

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 7:29pm On Feb 19, 2021
LordReed:


LMAO!

There are 1.65 trillion barrels of proven oil reserves in the world as of 2016.

The world has proven reserves equivalent to 46.6 times its annual consumption levels. This means it has about 47 years of oil left (at current consumption levels and excluding unproven reserves). https://www.worldometers.info/oil/

You think the likes of Shell and Exxon pouring money into R & D for alternative energy sources is because they like to waste it right.

EDIT: It seems sarcasm is lost on you. LoL

Reed,
Proven reserves is just "one" of several categories of hydrocarbon resource volumes. The proven ones are those that investors are almost certain they can produce today and tomorrow and get good returns on investment.

Now there are others:

- Contingent resources
- Prospective resources

Those working in the industry will tell you that these two are more than a thousand times the volume of proven reserves in the world.

There's a subset of contingent resource volumes called "Contingent Resource Unclarified". If you know the definition of this class of hydrocarbon resource volume and how much of it exists across this planet earth, you will understand why I said you and your generation unborn will be long gone while people are still tapping into oil and gas for energy supply.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kachills: 7:31pm On Feb 19, 2021
CNN is giving tougher coverage to Ted Cruz for taking his family and leaving his freezing house than they're giving Andrew Cuomo who enacted a disastrous nursing home policy, lied about it, hid the results from the DOJ, and is now threatening officials who won't tell his lie.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kachills: 7:35pm On Feb 19, 2021
If Trump were still the president, our corrupt media would be blaming him for Texas. We all know it, but the fake news media is now protecting the demented mutton head in the White House and focusing instead on a senator that doesn't have any executive power.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 7:38pm On Feb 19, 2021
Kachills:
If Trump were still the president, our corrupt media would be blaming him for Texas. We all know it, but the fake news media is now protecting the demented mutton head in the White House and focusing instead on a senator that doesn't have any executive power.

I hope Ted won't cave in to their devilish antics. He's a smart guy anyway.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kachills: 7:44pm On Feb 19, 2021
feedthenation:


---Even Donald Trump Jr---statement is blaming the 'Democratic' Gov of Texas---this is how him and his father's minions deliberately peddle false information---
Rather you just exposed how the fake news media works, Trump jr didn't say the governor of texas is a democrat anywhere in that tweet. He was rather criticizing the left for making a whole lot of noise about ted cruz while they are silent about the scandals of their incompetent democrat governors. You deliberately twisted his words and added your own lie to it just to criticize him.

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