Just40:
it works fine with communism because of the leveraging it provides

Socialism doesn't exist in a communist state

Just40:
not fully

but basically it is

rvp2018:
It only fails if public sector - gov become corrupt - and doesn't consult. I can give you example of Swiss. They hold referendum on nearly everything. Those countries are very democratic and have zero corruption. Public sector also work very well - public schools, hospitals, universities - so NOBODY CARES IF GOV taxes 50% of their wealth - because they do a good job in return. Nobody goes to private school or hospital or name it - if they even exist - because the PUBLIC SECTOR works.

It very difficult to pull democratic state in non homegenous countries - coz of racism, tribalism - etc.

Therefore social states are the most democratic.

the Nordic model.is the best...You really don t want extreme capitalism like in states or Communism like North Korea...

They both share the same objective - to create equal societies. Capitalism is on one extreme. Communism is one extreme. No single country is purely this or that. THEY ARE ALL IN SPECTRUM. Those in socialiasm spectrum are in the middle - embracing both good features of communism and also of capitalism.

jln115:
No..........Communism and socialism don't mix

Precisely - the consensus now is to move toward socialism (with Guaranteed Minimum Income) - otherwise unequal capitalist societies like US, Brazil and South Africa - just breed chaos, crime, and a huge mess - just like North Korea bread poverty, laziness and envy.

leQubit:


the Nordic model.is the best...You really don t want extreme capitalism like in states or Communism like North Korea...

jln115:
No..........Communism and socialism don't mix

was USSR a communist or socialist group?

rvp2018:
You're confusing democracy and capitalism. Capitalism in it's purest form - mean you can do whatever you want - with very little gov interferences, taxes and name it.

Socalist countries are very democratic - because they have to be VERY accountable - to be able to levy 50% of people earnings - without revolt. Those that cannot pull that - go for communism - which basically has to be authorian by nature.

kiddo

Learn

Democracy is a system of government

Capitalism is an economic system.


Socialism has nothing to do with which government structure you practice as long as you stick to it core function as an economic structure.

Dont get confused

Once you differentiate them on this basis, you will understand them


Socialism Carrie's the core revolutionary policies of probity and accountability but also, core anti democratic policies that make democracies shy away from it.

jln115:
It's good to laugh at one's self from time to time

I'm laughing at you

Just40:
kiddo

Learn

Democracy is a system of government

Capitalism is an economic system.


Socialism has nothing to do with which government structure you practice as long as you stick to it core function as an economic structure.

Dont get confused

Once you differentiate them on this basis, you will understand them


Socialism Carrie's the core revolutionary policies of probity and accountability but also, core anti democratic policies that make democracies shy away from it.

wrong bro..

Show me a democratic communist state - even though most often than not, they add the word DEMOCRATIC to their countries. You cannot have economic system without political system. This is political economics.

Just40:
kiddo

Learn

Democracy is a system of government

Capitalism is an economic system.


Socialism has nothing to do with which government structure you practice as long as you stick to it core function as an economic structure.

Dont get confused

Once you differentiate them on this basis, you will understand them


Socialism Carrie's the core revolutionary policies of probity and accountability but also, core anti democratic policies that make democracies shy away from it.

rvp2018:
Precisely - the consensus now is to move toward socialism (with Guaranteed Minimum Income) - otherwise unequal capitalist societies like US, Brazil and South Africa - just breed chaos, crime, and a huge mess - just like North Korea bread poverty, laziness and envy.

i would have liked to see Bernie Sanders presidency

It difficult to pull it in US because of the many differences now. Europe will eventually become social states. Then South Asians. China can easily become a good social state - if it already isn't. They just need to embrace democracy. South Asians are mostly homegenous socities - so it easy to sit down and agree on something.

leQubit:


i would have liked to see Bernie Sanders presidency

rvp2018:
Insightful read by Cytonn on Ghana real estate
https://www.cytonn.com/uploads/downloads/accra-real-estate-investment.pdf

The real estate sector is dominated by informal market players taking up 90% of the market share
• There has been increased involvement of the private sector with firms such as Devtraco, Trasacco,
Regimanuel Estates, Clifton Homes, Manet and CPL taking part in development
• The government has also partnered with firms that have financial muscle such as Regimanuel
Estates, SSNIT (Social Security and National Insurance Trust) to provide affordable housing

Ghana is faced with multiple land ownership issues and litigations mainly due to the communal–
system of land ownership , which, is a hindrance to development as it makes the process of land
acquisition cumbersome
• There is also inadequate land for development especially within Accra

The cost of debt in Ghana is high, with lending rates ranging from 19%-35% per annum on the Cedi
and approximately 13%-16% on the USD
• This is a challenge to both development and purchase of real estate as it limits affordability. As of
2015, Ghana Home Loans, which has at least a 47% loans market share, had provided loans worth
USD 97.1 mn to only 1,651 beneficiaries. The mortgage to GDP ratio stands at 0.25% as at 2010
compared to Kenya at 2.7% as at 2016.

HAIYEEE! The lending rates are bad enough. The bolded makes me think their cognitive challenges may indirectly be a good thing like a blind man standing on a giant IED for a short time ignorance truly is bliss.

rvp2018:
It difficult to pull it in US because of the many differences now. Europe will eventually become social states. Then South Asians. China can easily become a good social state - if it already isn't. They just need to embrace democracy. South Asians are mostly homegenous socities - so it easy to sit down and agree on something.

its already happening but folks dont want own it..fact most folks in welfare in Us are from Republic poor states but their leaders will always accuse others of being socialist...Problems America is facing today can only lead to one and one output ..A socialist state... The other option is a civil war.

I tell you; imagine borrowing at 35%; unless you're selling drugs; I don't which business will earn you profit enough to pay the banker 35%. Even Shylocks would be afraid to ask for such interest.

Anyway what they do in Ghana and Nigeria - they use monthly interest - 35% - monthly is 3%

So they simply tell them they are borrowing at 3%

kikuyu1:


HAIYEEE! The lending rates are bad enough. The bolded makes me think their cognitive challenges may indirectly be a good thing like a blind man standing on a giant IED for a short time ignorance truly is bliss.

Yes, the whites don't want to admit their poverty, they are languishing in rural america, which parts looking 3rd world. It's all racial pride. They think blacks and hispanic want to smooch the system.

leQubit:


its already happening but folks dont want own it..fact most folks in welfare in Us are from Republic poor states but their leaders will always accuse others of being socialist...Problems America is facing today can only lead to one and one output ..A socialist state... The other option is a civil war.

City sizes


Lagos, Nairobi, Accra and Pretoria..

Just40:
I'm laughing at you

well if laughing at facts is your thing.... Then it's probably ok

Austine1212:
City sizes


Lagos, Nairobi, Accra and Pretoria..

Now that you have posted other metros lemme just say Nairobi metropolitan region covers approximately 32,000 km2

leQubit:


was USSR a communist or socialist group?

communist

jln115:
communist

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)

rvp2018:
They both share the same objective - to create equal societies. Capitalism is on one extreme. Communism is one extreme. No single country is purely this or that. THEY ARE ALL IN SPECTRUM. Those in socialiasm spectrum are in the middle - embracing both good features of communism and also of capitalism.

I agree however socialism can not exist in a communist state....

leQubit:


Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)

and?

Kuruptnigga:
Where is this place please. Meanwhile this is one of Abuja CBD. It's an old CBD

AARRGHH,NIGGA!? We long ago established that like everything in Naij Abuja is fake; a Potemkin village!

The Incident Of Low Occupancy Rate For Residential Properties In Nigeria. A Case Study Of Abuja-Nigeria Federal Capital Territory

[url][https://ideas.repec.org/p/afr/wpaper/afres2016_110.htmlurl]

The most meaningful takeaway.

It was discovered that the majority of the residential properties developed, were not with financial assistance from financial institutions. They were purely private equities of politicians and businessmen who only want to consolidate their assets in physical structures but not for profit


Iow, money laundering, plain and simple!

The way they screech about Abuja you'd think it were Dubai, Singapore or Boston at the very least: as always reality in Naij is truly and truly ishytty!

Abuja suburb where open defecation is culture

[url][m.guardian.ng/news/abuja-suburb-where-open-defecation-is-culture/url]

Mrs. Edwin, popularly called Mama Favour said open defecation has become a normal sight in Tungan Wakili because most of the houses do not have toilets


Thats the CBD,UUURRGHHH!?

The practice is more prevalent in north-central states, including Abuja, the capital.


[url][https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/africa/nigerian-authorities-launch-campaign-against-open-defecation%3fampurl]

A typical Abuja toilet.

Five notorious spots where people defecate openly in Abuja


[url][https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/283933-five-notorious-spots-where-people-defecate-openly-in-abuja.htmlurl]

Gwarimpa express is a stop away from Kubwa express when coming from Wuse. “Driver, stop me at Gwarimpa express”, a passenger who wants to alight at this bus stop would say. Before this stop is a long pedestrian bridge that connects other parts of the popular Gwarimpa estate and that is why the stop is known as Gwarimpa express.
There is a big gutter on the right side of the road and many have turned it into a safe spot for convenience. You can see piles of faeces while passing or waiting for a commercial vehicle at the bus stop


[url]https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/283933-five-notorious-spots-where-people-defecate-openly-in-abuja.html/url]

I. CAN'T. ANYMORE

But while we struggle with temporary flood induced water supply issues in Nairobi there's no water in Abuja anyway . Somehow the planners ignored or someone neglected this.

There is no water in Abuja,” Chinyere, a resident, laments. “There is no light (electricity) but more importantly there is no water and this makes life hard

[url][https://pulitzercenter.org/reporting/nigerias-population-boom-poor-planning-skew-water-deliveryurl]

Ruth Samuel and her four children live here in an uphill settlement on the outskirts of Abuja.

But every day, they struggle for water, sometimes spending many hours scooping water from a ground spring

[url][www.voanews.com/africa/millions-nigeria-lack-access-clean-waterurl]

How Zokutu, Abuja residents get water.

The only source of water in the community is a cave, located about half a mile from the residential area. The water in the cave, which is 6 feet below ground level, is used for bathing, laundry, cooking, and drinking — without any form of purification. The level of development in Zokutu is next to nothing, as is reflected in the poor road networks, mud houses, and limited telecommunication access.


[url][https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/water-poverty-distress-in-nigerian-communities/url]

I like to bring receipts. In THE name of God never mention this effed up place ever again.

jln115:
and?

The Soviet Union's ideological commitment to achieving communism included the development of socialism in one country and peaceful coexistence with capitalist countries while engaging in anti-imperialism to defend the international proletariat, combat capitalism and promote the goals of communism.

now do you follow...

leQubit:


The Soviet Union's ideological commitment to achieving communism included the development of socialism in one country and peaceful coexistence with capitalist countries while engaging in anti-imperialism to defend the international proletariat, combat capitalism and promote the goals of communism.

now do you follow...

what's the relevance dude?

jln115:
I agree however socialism can not exist in a communist state....

Is China a communist country?

jln115:
what's the relevance dude?

Just to show you that State socialism was practiced there ..

leQubit:


Is China a communist country?

China is a socialist country.........

rvp2018:
I tell you; imagine borrowing at 35%; unless you're selling drugs; I don't which business will earn you profit enough to pay the banker 35%. Even Shylocks would be afraid to ask for such interest.

Anyway what they do in Ghana and Nigeria - they use monthly interest - 35% - monthly is 3%

So they simply tell them they are borrowing at 3%

Rvp rvp my guy, I’ve told you severally to stop pulling absurd statement out of your arse.

Are you looking for another facts spanking?

You won’t like where it will end up, just like the last time, it’s better for your mental health if you keep living in your utopia Kenya eldorado fantasy.

leQubit:


Just to show you that State socialism was practiced there ..

Did you read your own post? And did you read my posts? I said socialism can't exist in a communist country...........Your own post confirms this!! hence why socialism was used as a bridge from capitalism to communism.

Kuruptnigga:
Where is this place please. Meanwhile this is one of Abuja CBD. It's an old CBD

It's Accra.