budaatum:

Ask anyone and most will not tell you the purpose of man is to love. It is not even the purpose of Christians.

The purpose of humans is to live!

For the rest, go find yourself an atheist to do this stupidity with. buda does not do 'my tits are bigger than your tits' when the purpose is to learn.

HellVictorinho:


A human being is living and that's the difference.
Artificial intelligence is different from human intelligence.

shadeyinka:

Inherently every tree irrespective of where they are situated will contribute to the Carbon Cycle, Oxygen cycle and conversion of solar energy to food.

shadeyinka:

Artificial intelligence mimics human intelligence sir.

And a human being is just an advance AI robot!

HellVictorinho:


Even shadeyinka gains nothing after death.

shadeyinka:

Artificial intelligence mimics human intelligence sir.

And a human being is just an advance AI robot!

shadeyinka:

I don't know why you get angry at this simple question.

To whose advantage is living?

shadeyinka:

Buda, isnt the feeling of love just chemical reactions in the brain?

shadeyinka:
Haven't you heard such kinds of argument from Atheists?

budaatum:

Can you not see the false assumption you wish to disregard by working to the answer you want?

Why ask "why there is a beneficiary" when you have not found "who" benefits?

budaatum:

Is the flapping of hands the only means the person has of getting to the moon or is he just too stupid to try other ways of getting to the moon?

budaatum:

And yes, buda is very angry that you spent all day thinking and this rubbish is what you come up with!

If you did know your history, or shall I say, if you ate the fruit of the knowledge of human flight, you would know that getting to the moon started with man flapping his hands.

budaatum:

Seriously?


No I have not. I do not converse with the sort of brainless people who would say such a stupid thing. I think they must avoid me because I am far too intelligent for such nonsense.

Martian:


Since every system supposedly work to the benefit of your Uncaused First Cause A.K.A. God.
What is the purpose of Pluto?

You've said one of the purposes of the sun is to supply plants on earth with energy so that they can ultimately benefit Man who benefits the Uncaused First Cause.
So, what is the purpose of the sun relative to Pluto?

shadeyinka:

Your question is like pointing inside the engine of a clock and asking me the question: why did the engineer put this small gear?
I know how to read time on the clock for that is the interface the engineer made between me and the clock.

I have never claimed I know all the answers as per why every planet or solar system exist. I am not the manufacturer.

budaatum:

The advantage of living is to the one who lives. You lived today to your advantage.

I am not angry that you ask questions! I am angry that you insist on creating crap inside your head and you blind yourself so you can not see it.

HellVictorinho:


I disagree.
Humans are not robots.

shadeyinka:

So, what makes man different from an advanced AI robot?

budaatum:


So when scientists create advance AI robot they have become like God?

budaatum:


Listen carefully to how your brain is working:

Inherently every man will sh!t irrespective of where they are situated, so the purpose of man is to sh!t.

shadeyinka:

So, what makes man different from an advanced AI robot?

Martian:


Lol. I guess you don’t have enough information for your circular logic. If information about Pluto were available, you’d use it as support for your Uncaused First Cause but since it’s lacking you’re lost for words.

If the question had been about Jupiter and if you were privy to certain information, your response would be:

“Jupiter protects Earth and the other inner planets by deflecting comets and asteroids, because the Uncaused First Cause designed it that way”


Forget about “all” the answers. You don’t know enough to realize just how ignorant you are and how much you don’t know.

shadeyinka:

Unfortunately, you took it personal because you came to their defence.!

shadeyinka:

Note:
This is not about God or religion: just an intellectual discussion!

budaatum:
My Lordreed, is this person ono and co who despite all the evidence are shouting kraken?

He sure argues like them!

HellVictorinho:


Even shadeyinka gains nothing after death.

shadeyinka:

So, what makes man different from an advanced AI robot?

budaatum:

Defence of whom? Atheists? From what?

You see, that is your problem. You see a philosophical discussion as a war you need to win instead of an opportunity to learn, so you close your eyes and only see what you think you must see instead of what is really there.

The op of this thread is an atheist. Hell is an atheist. Yet, nothing they have said on this thread in which they have been in support of nihilism, is supportable, and neither is their conduct, even Lordreed, an atheist, disagrees with their position,
but you, fail to see that and blindly claim one supports what they say!

You need Christ in your life to teach you not to have enemies, because your inability to love your neighbours is making you blind and dishonest, and that I can not support, especially from a person who claims to worship God.

budaatum:

Defence of whom? Atheists? From what?

You see, that is your problem. You see a philosophical discussion as a war you need to win instead of an opportunity to learn, so you close your eyes and only see what you think you must see instead of what is really there.

The op of this thread is an atheist. Hell is an atheist. Yet, nothing they have said on this thread in which they have been in support of nihilism, is supportable, and neither is their conduct, even Lordreed, an atheist, disagrees with their position, but you, fail to see that and blindly claim one supports what they say!

You need Christ in your life to teach you not to have enemies, because your inability to love your neighbours is making you blind and dishonest, and that I can not support, especially from a person who claims to worship God.

During my many years of diving into philosophy as an atheist/humanist, I came to a conclusion which many of my fellow atheists have also arrived at- life has no meaning or purpose.

The basic tenet of nihilism is that life has no purpose or meaning. There are many forms of nihilism;

LordReed:


Seems he imagines he does.

HellVictorinho:


Even shadeyinka gains nothing after death.

shadeyinka:

All these arguments came about because I said that :

All atheists should naturally gravitate toward Nihilism
LordReed ,HellVictorinho and probably even you Buda protested.

And I said, if man is star dusts and he returns to s

shadeyinka post=99401156:



Eccl 2:11:
"And I looked upon all my works my hands made, and upon the labor I labored to do, and behold, all vanity and striving of the spirit, and no profit under the sun."

If life ends here on earth, shadeyinka also gain nothing after death!

Even if you don't like the idea (and ultimately it's a paradox), shouldn't all men be Nihilists?

tar dust, what has he truely gained?

I used the analogy of the lottery t illustrate:
It is like a man who won hundreds of millions in several lotteries only to loose the whole money in one single day!

Has such a man really gained anything?

Other than for those who believe in resurrection, Shouldn't ALL men (irrespective of their religious inclination) be Nihilist?

My argument is that you can't choose to be the kind of Nihilist you desire to be (cosmic Nihilist , moral Nihilist , Existencial Nihilist or another type). It's either one is a Nihilist or Not

The OP himself in his opening said:



The OP apparent solution (to the paradox of Nihilism) was to say:

My solution to this paradox is to separate the meaninglessness on a universal level from the logic that exists in the reasoning of the individual human life.

Emotions asides: why should a man be a non Nihilist if like a candle he end up still loosing his greatest asset in the bet to continue LIVING?