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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by slimdolyin(m): 10:27am On Feb 27, 2021
Go ahead with the administrative review.... Cuz bank will never confirm if money wasn't in your account they will only confirm the statement of account..... Maybe they are trying to use reverse psychology, so if truly money is in the account he will do administrative review.

Don't be scared.
Administrative review will only check if the ECO made errors not that they will start confirming any documents again.



Sherynna:
I think the bank did that confirmation to them.. Fidelity Bank.. Because they confirmed he had more than required amount on the day the statement was printed.. But further investigation shows the fund is no longer in the account.. So i am sure they validated from the bank

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Nobody: 10:36am On Feb 27, 2021
Bourne007:
Well the guidelines say anyone refused before shouldn't use priority/super. They can but at their own risk


okay... I hope they find a way out
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by ralphtamtobi: 11:30am On Feb 27, 2021
I am her brother, i am here, however the husband would come in some months time.
Yes it is her first pregnancy.


justwise:


Nah! I don’t think it’s a good idea, bytheaway is this her first pregnancy? Is anybody at all coming with her?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Queenbeloveth(f): 11:46am On Feb 27, 2021
LagosismyHome:


Can only happens if she has legal papers to show she has sole custody of the child and that the biological father is not in the child's life
Okay, thank you
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Goddys(m): 11:48am On Feb 27, 2021
slimdolyin:
Go ahead with the administrative review.... Cuz bank will never confirm if money wasn't in your account they will only confirm the statement of account..... Maybe they are trying to use reverse psychology, so if truly money is in the account he will do administrative review.

Don't be scared.
Administrative review will only check if the ECO made errors not that they will start confirming any documents again.




Exactly. I don't want to say much about this again. Banks don't divulge customer's sensitive information to UKVI. I don't have to argue on what I know and have handled.

This can only be possible if UKVI has a third party app that they use to check applicant's information. This is possible because western intelligence agencies have such access even though it's illegal. I repeat on a confident note that banks don't reveal applicant's balance.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Naomi2016: 11:49am On Feb 27, 2021
Someone should please help me with the price for priority and super priority visa fees in naira
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Queenbeloveth(f): 11:50am On Feb 27, 2021
Sherynna:
I think the bank did that confirmation to them.. Fidelity Bank.. Because they confirmed he had more than required amount on the day the statement was printed.. But further investigation shows the fund is no longer in the account.. So i am sure they validated from the bank
He shouldn't have remove the money cos anything worth doing worth doing well.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Queenbeloveth(f): 11:53am On Feb 27, 2021
LagosismyHome:


I don't understand this statement. ..... the rule is for you to file for a child then both mother and father should also file and be in the UK.

So if the biological father wants to file, he should have intention of bringing both mother and child
But there are cases where the other and the mother are not together again, does that mean if the person the child is living with want to travel to UK he/she can't go with the child considering the fact that he/she is married to another person and not to the father/mother of the child as the case may be?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Queenbeloveth(f): 12:00pm On Feb 27, 2021
Goddys:


You always think you know it all but you really don't. Banks owe customers fiduciary duty to protect their private details at all cost. The disclaimer you talked about has nothing to do with this legal relationship.

Stop claiming knowledgeable in area you know nothing about. I have worked in that sector before.

The questions from embassy to banks during verification is a "yes or no" question, and usually doesn't require banks to check present status of the customer's account.
You mean the embassy can not ask the bank to know if the money claimed in the statement of account is truly in the account at the time of application?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Queenbeloveth(f): 12:06pm On Feb 27, 2021
Goddys:


Exactly. I don't want to say much about this again. Banks don't divulge customer's sensitive information to UKVI. I don't have to argue on what I know and have handled.

This can only be possible if UKVI has a third party app that they use to check applicant's information. This is possible because western intelligence agencies have such access even though it's illegal. I repeat on a confident note that banks don't reveal applicant's balance.

I strongly doubt this your claim. I know someone who built up his account and lien the account, when he sent his statement to the school and the school verified it from gtb, gtb responded with every details on the account. The money in the account and the available money which caused the school not to issue the cas to the person again.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Goddys(m): 12:07pm On Feb 27, 2021
Queenbeloveth:

You mean the embassy can not ask the bank to know if the money claimed in the statement of account is truly in the account at the time of application?

The bank I worked for doesn't't divulge present status of customer's account to a third party. I am not sure of other banks but it's against international banking standard

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by slimdolyin(m): 12:09pm On Feb 27, 2021
If you send a bank statement to the embassy, the embassy will send it to the bank to confirm all the letter on that statement if it's genuine as at the day you printed it. So it not like the embassy will mail the bank to confirm if the funds is there or not.






Queenbeloveth:

You mean the embassy can not ask the bank to know if the money claimed in the statement of account is truly in the account at the time of application?

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by slimdolyin(m): 12:12pm On Feb 27, 2021
They will never.

Only if they get court order, the person is a treat to national security or in a case of fraud.


They will only confirm what you sent to the embassy.

It's good to peach what is good Sha but almost everyone here no wetin dem dey do



Goddys:


The bank I worked for doesn't't divulge present status of customer's account to a third party. I am not sure of other banks but it's against international banking standard

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by justwise(m): 12:19pm On Feb 27, 2021
ralphtamtobi:
I am her brother, i am here, however the husband would come in some months time.
Yes it is her first pregnancy.



Ok i understand that but this is the issue, she will be heavily pregnant while attending lecture and preparing for first semester exam, then she will give birth by July and by Sept she will be expected to go back to school for her final semester.

I think this will be too much for her to handle and still come out with a good result considering huge amount involved here.


Yes she needs to inform the school because some schools actually have provision for pregnant students, they may allow her sometimes to do assignments/final projects etc.

If she wants to go ahead with it then she needs to make adequate plan for the unborn baby and lay it out in her visa application because the embassy will be interested to know her she plans to take care of baby and still study full time.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by justwise(m): 12:22pm On Feb 27, 2021
slimdolyin:
If you send a bank statement to the embassy, the embassy will send it to the bank to confirm all the letter on that statement if it's genuine as at the day you printed it. So it not like the embassy will mail the bank to confirm if the funds is there or not.







So how did the embassy finds out that the money was removed?

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by LagosismyHome(f): 12:35pm On Feb 27, 2021
slimdolyin:
If you send a bank statement to the embassy, the embassy will send it to the bank to confirm all the letter on that statement if it's genuine as at the day you printed it. So it not like the embassy will mail the bank to confirm if the funds is there or not.

Unless you work in the embassy then this is pure speculation.... its possible they have different process per naija bank .

Because while you state this confidently , other personal experience has proven that some have been checked
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by DeeOneBangin: 12:45pm On Feb 27, 2021
I know there are some banks on the ukvi websites that are blacklisted. They don’t allow statement of accounts from those banks, if u use it, automatic refusal.

I believe they have their reasons for rejecting such banks sha.

No commercial Nigerian bank on the list tho, but there are couple of African countries and Middle East.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by justwise(m): 12:46pm On Feb 27, 2021
LagosismyHome:


Unless you work in the embassy then this is pure speculation.... its possible they have different process per naija bank .

Because while you state this confidently , other personal experience has proven that some have been checked


While people are here claiming that the bank has no right to do A,B and C the embassy is still busting out fraudsters, so my question still remain..how did the embassy finds out? And how come the bank hasn't been sued for giving out customers details to the embassy since its illegal?

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by slimdolyin(m): 1:12pm On Feb 27, 2021
If truly they confirmed the funds wasn't there they won't ask them to do administrative review. It will be straight ban



justwise:


So how did the embassy finds out that the money was removed?

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Ablecrystal: 1:12pm On Feb 27, 2021
No matter the kind of relationship that exists between the embassy and the banker, banks have an obligation to keep secrecy about theirs customers’ accounts. But, occasionally, the banker has to disclose the information related to their customers’ accounts when:

1. It is required by law
2. It has a public duty to
3. To protect own interests or,
4. If a customer agrees.

So I think we all have to read the terms and conditions on the application we want to submit to be sure the number 4 point (customer consent) is not applicable.

justwise:


There are bunch of people here who will always claim that the bank can not give out your bank info to the embassy bla bla bla, that the embassy has no right to ask such question, they always have an uncle or a friend who works at the bank and deals with the embassy. smh
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by olaness: 1:44pm On Feb 27, 2021
Ablecrystal:
No matter the kind of relationship that exists between the embassy and the banker, banks have an obligation to keep secrecy about theirs customers’ accounts. But, occasionally, the banker has to disclose the information related to their customers’ accounts when:

1. It is required by law
2. It has a public duty to
3. To protect own interests or,
4. If a customer agrees.

So I think we all have to read the terms and conditions on the application we want to submit to be sure the number 4 point (customer consent) is not applicable.


Exactly, that's what my spouse said. If we agreed to ukvi accessing some info on our account as we apply for visa, (this agreement is usually on those terms and conditions and privacy policies that we most often never read) then the bank may not be able to tell them no if they come asking for such details.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by ralphtamtobi: 1:49pm On Feb 27, 2021
Thanks for your response.

justwise:


Ok i understand that but this is the issue, she will be heavily pregnant while attending lecture and preparing for first semester exam, then she will give birth by July and by Sept she will be expected to go back to school for her final semester.

I think this will be too much for her to handle and still come out with a good result considering huge amount involved here.


Yes she needs to inform the school because some schools actually have provision for pregnant students, they may allow her sometimes to do assignments/final projects etc.

If she wants to go ahead with it then she needs to make adequate plan for the unborn baby and lay it out in her visa application because the embassy will be interested to know her she plans to take care of baby and still study full time.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by wummy087: 1:52pm On Feb 27, 2021
Good day house,please can I use my debit card to pay for the covid 19 test I am suppose to take in the UK. Thanks
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by justwise(m): 1:59pm On Feb 27, 2021
slimdolyin:
If truly they confirmed the funds wasn't there they won't ask them to do administrative review. It will be straight ban




Ok but this did not answer my question i asked, how did the embassy finds out that an applicant has removed the money since the bank has no right to disclose the details.?

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by justwise(m): 2:11pm On Feb 27, 2021
Ablecrystal:
No matter the kind of relationship that exists between the embassy and the banker, banks have an obligation to keep secrecy about theirs customers’ accounts. But, occasionally, the banker has to disclose the information related to their customers’ accounts when:

1. It is required by law
2. It has a public duty to
3. To protect own interests or,
4. If a customer agrees.

So I think we all have to read the terms and conditions on the application we want to submit to be sure the number 4 point (customer consent) is not applicable.


Those who are insisting that the bank can not do this or that needs to read the disclaimer or terms and conditions they signed.

If don't tick and accept terms and conditions guarding the application you are making then you will not be able submit that application.

Don't blame the bank when you willingly apply and submit fraudulent materials and get caught

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by slimdolyin(m): 2:12pm On Feb 27, 2021
Also asking the same thing..... If they truly confirmed the statement and funds the wasn't available why did they give him right to administrative review?



justwise:


Ok but this did not answer my question i asked, how did the embassy finds out that an applicant has removed the money since the bank has no right to disclose the details.?

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by Bourne007(m): 2:24pm On Feb 27, 2021
Administrative review is standard practice on any point based visa application


slimdolyin:
Also asking the same thing..... If they truly confirmed the statement and funds the wasn't available why did they give him right to administrative review?



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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by DeeOneBangin: 2:37pm On Feb 27, 2021
justwise:


While people are here claiming that the bank has no right to do A,B and C the embassy is still busting out fraudsters, so my question still remain..how did the embassy finds out? And how come the bank hasn't been sued for giving out customers details to the embassy since its illegal?

Those arguing should just answer this very SIMPLE question.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by justwise(m): 2:39pm On Feb 27, 2021
slimdolyin:
Also asking the same thing..... If they truly confirmed the statement and funds the wasn't available why did they give him right to administrative review?




Even if you are caught at the airport with fake visa they will still give you the right to defend yourself, you have the right to get a lawyer to defend you. AR is standard for every immigration visa refusal.

You keep saying if, if and more ifs but the op has acknowledged that the money was removed,

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by eddymatti(m): 2:46pm On Feb 27, 2021
Priority is £220
Naomi2016:
Someone should please help me with the price for priority and super priority visa fees in naira

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 5 by wummy087: 2:49pm On Feb 27, 2021
wummy087:
Good day house,please can I use my debit card to pay for the covid 19 test I am suppose to take in the UK. Thanks

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