shadeyinka:

It's a generic name for a god/deity the prefix should not be looked on with an English meaning.

It's just like given a title
-Richard the Lion heart
-Henry the brave
-Mohammed the trustworthy etc

The truth is that Allah was one of the 360 gods in the Kaaba. Mohammed's father Abdullah has a name meaning servant of Allah as a proof

Aketi2:


Talking about Mohammads father name-Abdullah. If Abdul means slave, Lah then is the name of the god. Slave of Lah.

budaatum:


You believe you can run faster than buda because you have not yet run faster than buda so that you may know.

You believe you have prepared adequately for ICAN because you have not yet taken the exam to find out and know if you have prepared adequately.

You believe that Buda will beat Anthony Joshua in a game of Chess because you have not yet witnessed them play so you may know if Buda will beat Anthony Joshua in a game of Chess or not.

You believe that America will land a Man on Mars before the year 2030 because America has not yet landed a Man on Mars and it is not yet 2030.

Essentially, you believe because you are unCERTAIN of the outcomes you believe in because you do not yet have sufficient knowledge to not be ignorant of the outcomes you believe in. Once you have acquired sufficient knowledge by testing your beliefs, you will stop believing because you will know.

Please know that I will not respond to you any further on this topic because we have done this enough on this thread, and it obvious that you believe you are right and will not test your belief and will therefore never know.

shadeyinka:

It's a generic name for a god/deity the prefix should not be looked on with an English meaning.

It's just like given a title
-Richard the Lion heart
-Henry the brave
-Mohammed the trustworthy etc

The truth is that Allah was one of the 360 gods in the Kaaba. Mohammed's father Abdullah has a name meaning servant of Allah as a proof

mhmsadyq:


Then why do the Arab Christians use the name Allah to mean God both in their books and in their worships since you kept regarding it as the name of an idol?

HellVictorinho:


I believe that I know how to write.

1Sharon:


I'm sure those arab Christians have another name for God besides ' Allah" unlike muslims

Aketi2:
People generally believe that the name of the Islamic god is "Allah". Arabian Christians even use the term to describe the God of the Christians. But this is wrong, as I am going to show in this short thesis.

H0: The name of the Islamic god is Allah
H1: The name of the Islamic god is not Allah

Proof:

I will start my argument by stating unequivocally that the name of the Islamic god is ILLAH and not Allah. As we know, ALLAH is a contraction of two words AL and ILLAH. Typically, the Arabs will tell us that "AL" means "the". However, what they will not tell us is that "AL" also means god/goddess. "AL" has its root in the Aramaic word "EL", which means God. It is this latter usage that makes more sense when AL-ILLAH is contracted to ALLAH. With this, AL-LAH will transliterate to mean "god-LAH". This is true when one considers the names of the three most important deities in the Kaaba namely; AL-LAT, AL-UZZAT and AL-MANAT. Notice the prefix "AL" before their names. If we adopt the latter meaning of the word "AL"; the goddess AL-MANAT will then"goddess MANAT"; AL-UZZAT, "goddess UZZAT". More over if we apply the meaning of AL as "the", it will not make sense to render the names of these goddesses as "The MANAT", The UZZAT" etc. If it is not possible to do this with AL-LAT, AL-UZZAT and AL-MANAT, Why should we treat AL-ILAH any differently?

Notice the following words:
La ilaha Illallah wahdahu (There is none worthy of worship except Allah alone)
La ilaha illallahu la sharikalahu (There is none worthy of worship except Allah with no partner or associate)
La illah illallah, lahul mulku wa lahul hamdu (There is none worthy of worship except Allah, all dominion is His and all praise is to Him)
La illaha illallah, la hawla wa la quwwata illa billah (There is none worthy of worship and there is no power and no strength except with Allah)

"Allah" only appears in the English interpretation, while Illah is used in the Arabic. I think this proves my hypothesis that the name of the Arabic god is Illah and not Allah.

Let me hear your argument for or against this my hypothesis.

budaatum:


I'm certain you can check the evidence so that you know if you know how to write or not. I, for instance, know how to write.

Do you also believe you can reason and think too? Because it will be good if you do not know.

budaatum:


You believe you can run faster than buda because you have not yet run faster than buda so that you may know.

budaatum:

You believe you have prepared adequately for ICAN because you have not yet taken the exam to find out and know if you have prepared adequately.

budaatum:

You believe that Buda will beat Anthony Joshua in a game of Chess because you have not yet witnessed them play so you may know if Buda will beat Anthony Joshua in a game of Chess or not.

budaatum:

You believe that America will land a Man on Mars before the year 2030 because America has not yet landed a Man on Mars and it is not yet 2030.

budaatum:

Essentially, you believe because you are unCERTAIN of the outcomes you believe in because you do not yet have sufficient knowledge

[s]to not be ignorant of the outcomes you believe in.[/s] Once you have acquired sufficient knowledge by testing your beliefs, you will stop believing because you will know.

budaatum:

Please know that I will not respond to you any further on this topic because we have done this enough on this thread, and it obvious that you believe you are right and will not test your belief and will therefore never know.

e.g.
You believe you can run faster than buda because you have not yet run faster than buda so that you may know.

shadeyinka:

I agree that Essentially, you believe because you are unCERTAIN of the outcomes you believe in because you do not yet have sufficient knowledge BUT not because you are ignorant.

I also agree that Once you have acquired sufficient knowledge by testing your beliefs, you will stop believing because you will know.

BTW, you were the one who helped me to critically examine the difference between KNOWING and BELIEVING (in one of your old threads). I actually looked critically at the difference between FAITH, BELIEVING and KNOWING. You Buda helped me to formalize my thoughts on these three words.

shadeyinka:
The weakness of your position is that you think of Believing as frivolous (but this is untrue). A Belief is only frivolous and I say RECKLESS when not backed up with adequate knowledge.

mhmsadyq:


Then why do the Arab Christians use the name Allah to mean God both in their books and in their worships since you kept regarding it as the name of an idol?

shadeyinka:

Allah simply means "the deity".

The question is, which of the deities?

Jehovah/Yahweh is the deity of the Jews and the Christians.

What is the name of the deity of the Muslims?

budaatum:


And in you own opinion, it is buda who is the arrogant one who can not admit?

budaatum:

I really dislike when you do this. I call it making crap up inside your head and believing it.

How many times have I said to believe is simply to be uncertain of an outcome, and how many times have I used the word myself but you insist on being blind and refuse to see? Did you yourself not describe it as what a scientist does when they come up with a hypothesis before going on to test it so they may actually know, and did buda not agree?

budaatum:

..
Beliefs are based on sentiment. Its why a man can believe he is a woman or a dog. He'd claim his belief is based on knowledge but the sane ones amongst us know he's just being stupid, irrational, reckless, damaged, or just lying so as not to admit his ignorance, take your pick.

budaatum:


Any belief negatively affects knowledge, and a believe in what you do not understand, even moreso.

The issue is that you think both what you believe, and knowledge, are the same thing, which they are not. ....

budaatum:


Basically, to believe is to be wilfully ignorant. One must check so one knows.

budaatum:

Shadeyinka, buda believes you will learn to open your eyes and see one day, and buda will not stop believing it until buda has sufficient information to actually know you can see.

budaatum:

The reason you are being told you are mischievous is no one understands why you keep ignoring the answer to the question that has been given in this thread about 4 times already.

Its like you believe that if you wilfully cover your eyes its never been said so you can keep insisting that what you believe is what's correct. I call it blindness, but I also suspect you of dishonesty, as I have mentioned numerous times but which you conveniently manage not to see too.

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shadeyinka:

Buda, you are the one who is blatantly dishonest for I know you read more widely than your narrow quotation/presentation.

Here are quotations from an Islamic website!
The Qur’an refers to Allah as the Lord of the Worlds. Unlike the biblical Yahweh (sometimes misread as Jehovah), he has no personal name, and his traditional 99 names are really epithets.

Allah is usually thought to mean “the god” (al-ilah) in Arabic and is probably cognate with rather than derived from the Aramaic Alaha.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/who-is-allah-understanding-god-in-islam-39558


Here is another from an Islamic website:

The strongest position , including the position taken by the famous Persian grammarian Sibawayh (the "father" of Arabic grammar), is that it is derived from اَلَهَ (alaha) - which means to worship or to show servitude. The name الله then, is a grammatical shortening of الإلاه (Al-Ilah) - the deity who is worshipped.

And Allah knows better!

If you care for knowledge, here is another Islamic website that shows the connection between
Allah and Elohim/Eloah.
http://www.usislam.org/allah/allbible.htm

Even in Hebrew, Elohim/Eloah is a generic name for a deity!


Study to KNOW!

God is a TITLE
Allah is a TITLE
El-ohim/Eloah is a TITLE
Jehovah/Yahweh is a name.

Mohammadu Buhari is a PRESIDENT
Joe Biden is a PRESIDENT

Aren't they different personalities?

budaatum:
Perhaps you need to go visit the Islamic section to find out why it is they say:


"I believe that there no god/God but Allah."
"I believe that Muhammad is God's Holy Prophet."
"I believe that Islam is the Only True Religion."
"lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, muhammadun rasūlu-llāh."

mhmsadyq:


Then why do the Arab Christians use the name Allah to mean God both in their books and in their worships since you kept regarding it as the name of an idol?

shadeyinka:

Arabs use the term as a title(like president, king, chairman, god/God) not as a name ( Buhari, Biden, Yahweh).

It simply means "the deity".

Yahweh is the deity of the Christians and Jews!
What is the name of the deity of the Muslims?

Some Muslims agree Allah has no personal name other than title



The Qur’an refers to Allah as the Lord of the Worlds. Unlike the biblical Yahweh (sometimes misread as Jehovah), he has no personal name, and his traditional 99 names are really epithets.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/who-is-allah-understanding-god-in-islam-39558

mhmsadyq:


Some writers also posited that Yahweh was the name of God of Metallurgy, which later metamorphosed into a supreme God. That's BTW.

mhmsadyq:

Well, the personal name or title 'Allah' seem to be a problem to you because you are not a Muslim or an Arab Christian and i can understand.

Allah in Islam is the name or title, for your convenience of the Supreme Being, as you can imagine. You can as well call him by other names or titles as long as you are addressing him.
To him belongs the most beautiful names and titles.

mhmsadyq:

I am only concerned that you always ascribe Allah as the name of one of the idols in the pre islamic period.

mhmsadyq:

Therefore i ask.
What is the name or title as you would like it, used to address the deity of Christianity by the Arab Christians both in their books and worship?
Having it at the back of your mind that Christianity predates Islam.

shadeyinka:

I will like to see a credible link to show that because the Philistines were well into metallurgy before the Jews.




Here are quotations from an Islamic website!
The Qur’an refers to Allah as the Lord of the Worlds. Unlike the biblical Yahweh (sometimes misread as Jehovah), he has no personal name, and his traditional 99 names are really epithets.

Allah is usually thought to mean “the god” (al-ilah) in Arabic and is probably cognate with rather than derived from the Aramaic Alaha.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/who-is-allah-understanding-god-in-islam-39558


Here is another from an Islamic website:

The strongest position , including the position taken by the famous Persian grammarian Sibawayh (the "father" of Arabic grammar), is that it is derived from اَلَهَ (alaha) - which means to worship or to show servitude. The name الله then, is a grammatical shortening of الإلاه (Al-Ilah) - the deity who is worshipped.

And Allah knows better!

If you care for knowledge, here is another Islamic website that shows the connection between
Allah and Elohim/Eloah.
http://www.usislam.org/allah/allbible.htm

Even in Hebrew, Elohim/Eloah is a generic name for a deity!


Study to KNOW!

God is a TITLE
Allah is a TITLE
El-ohim/Eloah is a TITLE
Jehovah/Yahweh is a name.

Mohammadu Buhari is a PRESIDENT
Joe Biden is a PRESIDENT

Aren't they different personalities?

I say nothing extraordinary different from what your clerics have known



I am forced to because Abdullah, the father of Prophet Mohammed SAW wasn't a Muslim but he was a servant of Allah.

How do you explain this?





God is a TITLE
Allah is a TITLE
El-ohim/Eloah is a TITLE

Olorun, Chukwu, Ubangiji, Allah, El-oha, El-ohim, Olodumare are ALL titles of Deities.
Just as:
President, Head of State, Governor, Chairman, Head of Department, Oba, Seriki, Emir, Obi are all titles of Leaders





Jehovah/Yahweh is a name.

[b]Mohammadu Buhari is a PRESIDENT
Joe Biden is a PRESIDENT


What is the name of the Deity behind your Olorun, Chukwu, Ubangiji, Allah, El-oha, El-ohim or Olodumare?

Mine is Yahweh, so is it with the Arab Christians, what is yours?

mhmsadyq:


I don't have to quote from any site. This is what every Muslim should know.


I still don't think you've answered my question.


Mark, J. J. (2018, October 22). Yahweh. World History Encyclopedia. Retrieved from https://www.ancient.eu/Yahweh/

Therefore i ask .
What is the name or title as you would like it, used to address the deity of Christianity by the Arab Christians both in their books and worship?

Having it at the back of your mind that Christianity predates Islam.

mhmsadyq:


Mark, J. J. (2018, October 22). Yahweh. World History Encyclopedia. Retrieved from https://www.ancient.eu/Yahweh/

shadeyinka:


I answered ALL your questions even with explanations


The name Arab Christians use is Yahweh/Jehovah.

The Titles Arab Christians use are El-ohim, El-oha, El-Shaddai, Adonai, Allah, Al-Aziz, Al-Kaaliq, Al-Razaaq etc

Are you clear now?


BTW: Eloah and Allah are Hebrew/Arabic equivalent (both are Semitic languages meaning "the Deity")

mhmsadyq:


In Islam, Allah is the unique, omnipotent and only deity and creator of the universe and is equivalent to God in other Abrahamic religions . [11][12] Allah is usually seen as the personal name of God, a notion which became disputed in contemporary scholarship, including the question, whether or not the word Allah should be translated as God . [55]

mhmsadyq:


Weldone!
What then should be the correct name for "God" among the Arab Christians? Cos you seem to understand arabic more than the Arab Christians.

mhmsadyq:


In Islam, Allah is the unique, omnipotent and only deity and creator of the universe and is equivalent to God in other Abrahamic religions . [11][12] Allah is usually seen as the personal name of God, a notion which became disputed in contemporary scholarship, including the question, whether or not the word Allah should be translated as God . [55]
According to Islamic belief, Allah is the most common word to represent God, [56] and humble submission to his will, divine ordinances and commandments is the pivot of the Muslim faith. [11] "He is the only God, creator of the universe, and the judge of humankind." [11][12] "He is unique ( wāḥid) and inherently one ( aḥad ), all-merciful and omnipotent." [11] The Qur'an declares "the reality of Allah, His inaccessible mystery, His various names, and His actions on behalf of His creatures." [11]
The concept correlates to the Tawhid , where chapter 112 of the Qur'an ( Al-'Ikhlās , The Sincerity) reads:
۝ [57] SAY, God is one GOD;
۝ the eternal GOD:
۝ He begetteth not, neither is He begotten:
۝ and there is not any one like unto Him. [58]
and in the Ayat ul-Kursi ("Verse of the Throne", which is the 255th verse and the powerful verse in the longest chapter (the 2nd chapter) of the Qur'an, Al-Baqarah ( "The Cow" states:
"Allah! There is no deity but Him , the Alive, the Eternal. Neither slumber nor sleep overtaketh
Him .
Unto Him belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who could intercede in His presence without His permission?
He knoweth that which is in front of them and that which is behind them, while they encompass nothing of His knowledge except what He wills.
His throne includeth the heavens and the earth, and He is never weary of preserving them.
He is the Sublime, the Tremendous."


In Islamic tradition, there are 99 Names of God ( al-asmā' al-ḥusná lit. meaning: 'the best names' or 'the most beautiful names'), each of which evoke a distinct characteristic of Allah. [12][59] All these names refer to Allah, the supreme and all-comprehensive divine name. [60] Among the 99 names of God, the most famous and most frequent of these names are "the Merciful" ( ar-Raḥmān ) and "the Compassionate" ( ar-Raḥīm ), [12][59] including the forementioned above al-Aḥad ("the One, the Indivisible" and al-Wāḥid ("the Unique, the Single".