valirex:

Damn I get it, when you're born with the DNA of begging, so wail on

Givaxy:

whether you like it or not. benins are Yoruba

valirex:


Keep wailing, we like the hype, that part of your DNA is really hard on you

Givaxy:

all Edo's are Yoruba. part and parcel of oduduwa

valirex:


Keep wailing, we like the hype, that part of your DNA is really hard on you

Givaxy:

all Edo's are Yoruba. part and parcel of oduduwa

valirex:


Keep wailing, we like the hype, that part of your DNA you got from your parents is really hard on you

Givaxy:

whether you like it or not. benins are Yoruba

Christistruth00:
What the OP should have written was that both the Yorubas and Igbos are descendants of the Ancient Igbos that Oduduwa met at Ile Ife

The Ijebu,, Ekiti, Akoko,Ilaje,Ondo,,Ijesha and Owu ( Obasanjo’s Clan) are all mostly of Ancient Igbo heritage. ,the others are mixed.

The Igbo or Ugbo were the aborigines that Oduduwa met at Ife when he arrived there

The Igbos of Ife were ruled by Oruluere who was number 77 in the Igbo dynasty of kings called the Obatalas

The Ancient Igbos claimed to have founded and settled in Ile Ife after the great flood that destroyed the Earth ( Believed to be Noahs flood)
That was why they were also known as Ooyelaagbo which means the Survivors of the great flood.

Oduduwa fought Obatala at Ile Ife and Conquered the Igbos replacing the Igbo dynasty

After a peace settlement with Obatala where Oduduwa gave him his daughter in Marriage the Igbos and Oduduwas People settled together at Ile Ife

Oduduwa was king and Obatala was his deputy

But some of the Igbos were so stubborn, headstrong angry that they rebelled against their Igbo king Obatala to the extent of disowning him completely and migrating away from Ife

Obatala was both a diviner and a very outstanding Cotton Merchant with many plantations.

Obatala was reputed to have been even richer than Oduduwa himself but his weakness was his bad drinking habit

Oduduwa was outstanding in Statemanship and Administration

The Igbos that rebelled against and disowned their own King Obatala claimed that they could not live with the Peace agreement he made with Oduduwa so they left Town and continued attacking Ile Ife from their new location until they met their Waterloo through the intervention of a woman called Moremi

Only the descendants of Obatala are allowed in Crown the Ooni of Ife in recognition of the fact that they were the original founders and inhabitants of Ile Ife



That in a nutshell is the Story of Oduduwa,the Igbo or Ugbo and the 77th Igbo king Obatala Oruluere



Jesus bless us all

TripleOh7:
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So you lots are no longer Jews?

I laugh in Hebrew.

Yorubas and Igbos aren't related.

While Yorubas built kingdoms, Igbos had small settlements/hamlets scattered around a limited space.

If you don't believe this, look at the landmass of Igboland and compare to that of Yorubaland.

The space needed for small hamlets is quite different from the space needed for kingdoms and empires.

Oh and by the way, the fantasy tale you spouted is just a figment of your imagination.

There's a Yoruba subgroup known as the Ugbo /Igbo kingdom.

In Yoruba, Igbo means bush or forest.

This subgroup were descendants of Oranfe, Oduduwa's prime minister who breathed fire from his mouth and nostrils.

Till today, Oranfe is venerated in Ife as Oranfe onile ina i.e Oranfe of the Dynasty of Fire.

But his first born had to flee into the forest with those loyal to him, because of his own betrayal.

They are the Igbo/Ugbo people today and they currently inhabit a part of Ondo state.

Their king is called the Olugbo of Ugbo kingdom till date.

So whoever told you that story was telling you tales by moonlight.

The Igbos of Southeast Nigeria are descendants of the Nupe people.

That's the only link between Igbos and Yorubas cos the Nupes themselves are distant relatives of the Yorubas.

Juliusmalema:



Do I look like someone who eat oily soup or fell from the sky?

The Journalist is only massaging the ego of his boss Sowore for monthly pay.


Inukwa historical ties.... mtcheew.

Christistruth00:



https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/326478-igbos-yorubas-have-historical-ties-ooni-of-ife.html

TripleOh7:


First of all, did you read what I wrote up there?

Second, the Igbo/Ugbo he's referring to are located in present day Ondo state and their Monarch's title is the Olugbo of Igbo kingdom.

And if he's referring to the Igbos in the eastern part of Nigeria, then he's probably referring to a tenuous connection via the Nupe people which, if you had read my post you would have seen it there.

Go back and read my post.

Uniportadmision:


Please enlighten me, what's the link between the Igbo and Nupe, how exactly did they originate from Nupe, any scientific research? Oral history? This is the first time I'm hearing this, though it sounds ridiculous but I'm open to learning. I come in peace. Thanks.

TripleOh7:


I know you come in peace. I also come in peace.

I read that from some researcher who seemed to know what he was talking about, especially with regards to DNA testing.

If I find the link I'll let you know.

Uniportadmision:


Thank you, I'll be waiting. I hope it wouldn't be the last I hear from you

I still cum in peace

Christistruth00:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/326478-igbos-yorubas-have-historical-ties-ooni-of-ife.html

ShadowCracker:
TAO11 what is your opinion of the idea of having a Yoruba nation.

TAO11:
Having said the above, the following is a summarized synthesis of the Yoruba account vis-a-vis the Ugbó (aka Igbó) episode in the ancient history of Ife.


The collective people of all the ancient thirteen (13) Ife settlements used to be known as ‘Ugbó.

This name may also be uttered (or spelt) as: ‘Igbó,’ just as the name of one of the factions of the group ousted from Ife. This specific point would make more sense in due course.

At some point in the course of history, some sections of at least 2 of the 13 Ife settlements were dislodged from Ife in the course of a long political turmoil.

This section took up abode in the woods outside of the Ife settlements. Their new abode or camp was named “Ideta-Oko” (meaning: “Ideta in the woods” ).

From this Ideta-Oko camp, they embarked on series of attacks and campaigns to gain access to Ife again.

However, a stronger force comprising of members of the other settlements went on to camp at “Odin” (one of the 13 Ife settlements) under the leadership of Obameri, to fight them off again and again.

So far, it must be realized that the Ugbós, i.e. the people of Ife have now been divided into two, viz. (1) the vast majority who live in their respective areas of Ife, (2) the smaller dislodged group led by Obatala.

In the long end after the long conflicts, the two parties desired peace — especially after a small-pox epidemic broke out at the Ideta-Oko camp leading to terrible loss of lives of the campers at Ideta-Oko.

These two Ugbó groups reached a peace agreement, and the mutual agreement provided that the Ideta-Oko campers be readmitted back into Ife.

This was done and peace returned, but there was an exception. Some of the most irreconcilable faction of the Ideta-Oko campers wouldn’t give peace a chance.

This faction of the campers led by Obawinrin refused to return to Ife, and instead moved from Ideta-Oko to a forest location (i.e. Igbó) farther away from Ife .

This group from the forest (Igbó) location proceeded to engage in guerrilla attacks against the outskirts of the city of Ife.

This faction engaged in house burning, looting, and killings & maiming. These specific later attacks are the background to the Moremi/Igbó episode

This forest came to be known in the accounts also as Igbó-Ugbó (also spelt as Igbó-Igbó) — that is, the forest [hideout of some] Ugbós. This is in contrast with the city (i.e. Ife) where all Ugbós live by default.

Cheers!
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NB:
There have been some scholarly attempts to equate this Ugbó/Igbó (i.e. ‘the ancient ones’) of Ife [as well as the disgruntled faction who proceeded to camp in the Igbó (i.e. ‘forest’)] to be one and the same as the Ìgbò of present-day south-east Nigeria.

However, such scholars are generally fair enough to make it noticeable that their own opinions are in fact no more than likelihoods rather than anything firm.

Having said that, it is noteworthy that the Ugbó/Igbó of the Ife account is distinct and separate from the Ìgbò of present-day south-eastern Nigeria.

Although their respective roman orthographies or graphic representations appear the same, the words themselves are distinct and different.

These native African words are tonal like most native African words. Their referents are therefore deeper than their apparent roman orthographies.

Two differently toned native words would refer to different/distinct things regardless of their identical roman orthographies.

In our instance, the Ugbó or Igbó of the Ife account is differently toned from the Ìgbò of the south-east, and as such refers to different things/people, etc.

The Ugbó or Igbó of the Ife account is uttered with the same tone as one would utter the Yoruba word for “marijuana” — the tone therefore is “re, mi” for those who know some music.

The Ìgbò of the south-east, in contrast, is uttered with the same tone as one would utter the Yoruba word for “headbutt” — the tone thus is “do, do” for those who know some music. One may also listen here.

Cheers!
Cc: Christistruth00

Christistruth00:
Hello TAO how is everything hope you are fine

https://www.herald.ng/yoruba-genetically-99-9-percent-igbo-study-reveals/

TAO11:
I’m good.

I’m aware of the genetic link, and it’s not unique to Igbos.

The link is already implied from the fact that each of them evolved from the same initial proto stock as noted in my reply to you at the link below:

https://www.nairaland.com/6459392/igbo-yoruba-know-sons-oduduwa/3#103582955

chiagozien:
Even common knowledge will make one Know that Igbos and yorubas has nothing in common.

Nothing concern Igbos with Oduduwa that fall down from sky.

We and yorubas share nothing in common and don't wish to.

Our skin colour is totally different.

Our dressing has no similarity.

Our culture no be the same.

The way we thinks is never the same.

Naturally they hate you because you Igbo.



Can anyone tell me three things we share in common with yorubas.

Christistruth00:
TAO you have not yet replied to the part where I said the people of Oguta in Imo State Celebrate the Owu Festival Which is only Celebrated by the Owu Yorubas.

Remember that Obatala the Igbo King at Ile-Ife and Iyunade , Oduduwa’s daughter who was given to him as Wife were the progenitors of the Owu People

https://nigeriannewsleader.com/index.php/fasions/oguta-ameshi-the-story-of-a-town-agog-as-it-celebrates-traditional-owu-festival