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Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 2:48pm On Jul 28, 2010
Tired of trying to bring dumb jack out of sh!thole. shocked
I quit with this guy, let another try to brush him up

Holla!
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by precap2(m): 2:25pm On Jul 28, 2010
ajoguegbe:

No comment till a reasonable,intelligent and mature point is made.

Or more like until a reasonable, intelligent, and mature person makes a point grin

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Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 2:19pm On Jul 28, 2010
Gidtruth:

What! you lost money investing in shares too? Am waiting for your co-traveler tkb417 to come out calling you a fool!!


I bought the shares to keep because I believe the corporation is good. I still intend to keep it and I'm not complaining. That's the difference. You were accusing Akingbola in your case and I'm not accusing anyone because I made the decision to buy for keeps.

Gidtruth:

Would you do same if accused in the society you have made your home? Is that christian behavior as recommended by the bible?

I think your biggest problem is that you want to steer this discussion into religious comparison and no one is giving you the chance. You still won't have the chance. If you need to discuss religious business leaders, join another thread or start one grin

Holla!
Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 1:33pm On Jul 28, 2010
Gidtruth:

Again and again Debosky you keep making conclusions based on faulty premise. If you find it alright you are entitled to your opinion but i find it difficult to accept as normal an ordained pastor in one of Nigeria's largest churches enmeshed in serious allegation of fraud and breach of trust. To add to it he is on the run from the law.

Meanwhile his professional capability is not in doubt the issue at stake is his personal integrity

He will die in his mistakes tongue
Running from the law? Which law? Was it not the same law that was going to pronounce Nuhu Ribadu guilty, but after he ran away the law said he did nothing wrong. There are no laws only crazy humans like you. The "law" becomes what these crazy !d!ots want it to become.

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Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 1:18pm On Jul 28, 2010
debosky:

Again, I repeat INVESTMENTS based on religious sentiment is tantamount to throwing money away. I wouldn't allow a 'Christian' to operate on me if he was not a qualified doctor so why would I let that sway a financial investment?  Huh His religion is immaterial to a judgement of his professional capability.


The guy is very hard of hearing and that's the bane of everything he's doing.
Lion Bank was Managed 100% by Muslims, even their staff was more than 80% Muslims and yet where is Lion Bank today? It's not about religion, it's about time and chance in making good decision. I have the shares of AIG (America International Group), and the management was one of the best, yet they failed in their decisions and my shares lost 80% in less than 6 months. Did you notice that America bailed out Citi Group with tax payer's money? CitiBank management failed and they didn't ask the CEO to return his Ferari Enzo.
Wake up oga investor.

Holla!
Religion / Re: Who Is A True Man Of God? by precap2(m): 12:58pm On Jul 28, 2010
Akobaje:

Does it say somewhere in the Bible that only an evil generation seeks a sign? If so why do these churches seek validation through the performance of supernatural feats? It would be nice to heal such a serious condition as a hole in the heart but my guess is that those who really have the power to do it will never publicise it. Anyone who makes such a feat public should be ready to prove it. If you can't prove it then it's a lie and you are either a cheat or a mythomaniac.


My dear bros, you did well in your post above but there is one thing to be added there: extreme in anything is usually bad. The above scripture reference was about a people that were always seeking a sign (mark the word ALWAYS), and they don't seek the sign to believe but to criticize and so on.
Don't forget the word in Mark 16, towards the end, maybe verse 15, 16 or 17 (can't access my pc Bible), it reads: "And this sign shall follow them that believe, in my Name they shall health the sick, . . . cast out demons. . . and if they eat any poison it shall not hurt them". I'm not sure I'm quoting exactly but the entire content is to that effect. The rule says that the sign shall follow them that believe, so if one believes, signs are supposed to follow. Ok? If sign does not follow you when you believe, it does not mean that you believed less, it simply means that after believing you're not concentrating on getting the sign. Sign is not mandatory, it's of volition; to whosoever wills. It's your right.

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Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 12:40pm On Jul 28, 2010
Gidtruth:

@Debosky,

They hold morning devotion there too, new info , but where the CEO's accused of acquiring properties all over the world with values close to what their banks lost?


This guy is very boring embarassed
Why don't you leave the forum and return to your vulcanizing shop?

Holla!
Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 12:32pm On Jul 28, 2010
Gidtruth:

And how is it my problem if you have difficulty comprehending english? Must you post at all cost? If you got nothing more to write move over

You just joined NL and your first few posts are this smelly. You rant endlessly and got corrected then you lost your mind. Are you always like this?

tkb417:

excellent!!!!

and thanks for reminding me the disclaimer on the prospectus cheesy
that summarises everythn


Such ninny head like Gidtruth don't read prospectus. Oga investor! And come to think of it, how did he lose money as an investor who's not interested in speculating?

debosky:

Zack declared his own guilt - have you heard Akingbola declare himself guilty?  Huh Try to use examples in the right manner and apply some logic.

Logic is lacking in both his head and heart wink

Holla!
Religion / Re: Evidence Of The Spirit? - Energy Balance & Thermodynamics by precap2(m): 11:54am On Jul 28, 2010
justcool:



Here is where you err. No work is done when you are stationarily holding the stone(whitout moving the stone). Likewise a table does no work when a book is placed on it. While holding the stone you are applying force but since no distance has been made, no work is done.

Don't take my word for it. Take this issue to an authority.

Keep in mind that here we are talking strictly science and not the layman's definition of work.

Thanks a lot.

If I lift a piece of stone from the ground - admitted work is done.
If I lift a piece of stone from the ground and hold it suspended for hours - then work was done when I lifted it but no more work was done for the hours I held it up? If you say no work is being done in this circumstance, then your understanding of your definition is deceptive. You now need to consult an authority, or you might decide to consult natural authority by putting your hand under the stone and I drop it.
Work define as Force + Distance covered is comprehensive enough if you understand that there is a reverse force (gravity) that would have taken the stone another distance if i didn't hold it up. So distance is still being covered. Now take this and add to your definition of work "THAT WORK INVOLVES TRANSFER OF ENERGY FROM ONE BODY TO ANOTHER". If that transfer of energy into another body cause it to move or be transform from one state to another, work is deemed to have been done.

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Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 11:04am On Jul 28, 2010
Gidtruth:

What the crap are these emergency investment analyst who are probably yet to get of school whining about?

Do you know how many investment houses in Lagos (Including   Falcon Securities allegedly owned by Akingbola and wife) who analyze the market also lost money without saving their entire investement. I am just a small time investor  in ICB shares not a guru and all i expect is growth in my investment from a public offer. I am not a speculator and the only person  apart from myself i can hold responsible is the management of the bank.

I also invested in GTB managed by muslims at he top and it's being wonderful in terms of returns, bonus and dividends. ICB managed by alleged pastors gave me no dividends and only crappy dividends.

They deceived all by making their staff have morning devotions and share word for today. They (including Oceanic) were busy announcing awards of best this best that thereby deceiving shareholders. Meanwhile they were busy carrying out insider dealings giving loans to family and cronies and acquiring personal properties on the island and abroad.

Any wonder the investments went almost belly up? Don't you know ICB and a few others shares took a very heavy battering compared to other banks?

Continue to defend them while people of other faiths laugh their buts out on very shallow standards Christians hold themselves to. Always in a hurry to embrace fraud and hide, defend and protect bad behavior.

Is someone still saying the current state of Intercontinental has no relationship with Akingbola's management style?


After the long ranting, what's your point. Please be brief and to the point.

Holla!
Crime / Re: 50 Years After Independence: When Will Nigeria Adopt An Indigenous Language As Our Lingua Franca? by precap2(m): 10:10am On Jul 28, 2010
shotster50:

@ OP ,

And that will be the final solution to all Nigerias' problems?

OP is on AWOL.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Wyclef Jean Once Again Considers Running For President Of Haiti by precap2(m): 10:06am On Jul 28, 2010
Beaf:

Wyclef has been very involved in uplifting Haiti. He has given so much of his time, sweat and money to various causes, a truly exemplary man!
He is one of the rare people that are truly human. I remember he was among those who gave up his time, flew to Haiti after the quake and engaged himself rescuing folk, digging up bodies and burying the dead with his bare hands.

He will be a very worthy leader of Haiti if given the chance.

Does he have the knowledge required to pilot a country? It's one thing to be a music hero and another to lead a country.

Holla!
Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 9:52am On Jul 28, 2010
tkb417:

Go back to school

have you seen the Income statement or profit and Loss statement of any CBN?

u dont have a brain grin grin grin

dont mind the rat
someone bought a bank shares for less than 7naira, got bonuses, dividends, capital appreciation of more than 300% and couldnt take his gain to recoup his investments when the goin was good.

how is ma biz if his 160k dropped to 2k? as a matter of fact, if in the same position, i would have amassed more than 500k in the same time frame


I think Tudor is begging for attention the wrong way. She's very lonely

Holla!
Religion / Re: Evidence Of The Spirit? - Energy Balance & Thermodynamics by precap2(m): 8:54am On Jul 28, 2010
justcool:

Scientifically speaking, what you described above is not work. The problem is that people confuse the scientific meaning of these terms with the layman’s meaning. What science describes as work is not exactly the same with the everyday meaning of work.

Likewise what science refers to as energy is not exactly the same as what the lay man knows as energy.

Now back to work. In science work is nothing but the product of force and distance. Where one is missing, work has not been done. If I hold a very heavy stone for hours, as long as I have not moved the stone any distance, work has not been done.


This is where I have severe misunderstanding of your concept. Either you abandoned your concept here totally or you're not very descriptive. By "If I hold a very heavy stone for hours", do you mean holding it up or just holding it while it lay on the ground. If you mean while it lay on the ground, then there is neither force nor distance; but if you mean holding it up or off the ground, then there is both force and distance, therefore work has been done and energy dissipated. However, the amount of energy required to whisk it off the ground is not equal to that required to keep it suspended, but while it's still suspended work is still going on until it is returned to a state of rest.

Holla!
Foreign Affairs / Re: Wyclef Jean Once Again Considers Running For President Of Haiti by precap2(m): 10:17pm On Jul 27, 2010
Another George Weah, this time in Haiti. Why do people succumb easily to tempting of the siren? He should watch the ruin of the sailors that followed it.

Holla!
Foreign Affairs / Re: Gaddafi Slapped Security Details During Summit by precap2(m): 10:11pm On Jul 27, 2010
If he should cross jurisdiction and continue to slap then something is wrong with the country he went to. They should have asked him to leave the country immediately.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Zimbabwe Grows For First Time In 11 Years by precap2(m): 10:00pm On Jul 27, 2010
Beaf:

http://www.zimonline.co.za/Article.aspx?ArticleId=6235

No country can trade without credit. . . The above is the real reason why Zim went into a spiral. Zim can now get credit to trade from the East.

I think you're your brothers' keeper truly. How can you gain access to credit when you're doing badly and unable to payback what you owed, and yet unable to stick with policies that would ensure steady growth. The IMF/WB can't lend to a degenerating economy. No one can put money where it would sink

But hey! I want to quit this Zim wahala and sound like nice guy that I always am grin

Holla!
Religion / Re: Evidence Of The Spirit? - Energy Balance & Thermodynamics by precap2(m): 9:49pm On Jul 27, 2010
Deep Sight:

Matter are the result of the original energy of God which has cooled off to take form as elements of physical mass.

In much the same way as steam when cooled must form water, and when further cooled must form the rock solid ice. An admittedly imperfect physical example of how the intangible energy of God may cryslalize as matter.

Energy for me, is the pulse of all existence. This is why I do not subscribe to the limitation of energy as a physical thing only. Physical energies are for me but one manifestation of the ONE energy which permeates all things.

I want to put across my understanding of your definition with some questions.
Matter is formed from the cooling off of the energy of God, while energy is the "pulse" of existence. How does pulse cool to form matter and is it repeatable in any other form? Water is already matter so don't use the cooling of steam example, it means cooling matter and not pulse.
Again, you mentioned that God is non material, can you describe how non meterial "being[?]" produce material being? These questions are actually not specifically directed to Deep Sight. Anyone could help clarify some of the ambiguities.

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Religion / Re: Evidence Of The Spirit? - Energy Balance & Thermodynamics by precap2(m): 9:24pm On Jul 27, 2010
Deep Sight:

^^^ I would be more circumspect in reaching that conclusion. Because it is an age-old perception that the physical mirrors the spiritual. Thus it is entirely plausible to use physical reasoning and physical examples in expounding spiritual things.

I would also urge you to review post No. 22 above where I explained why all energy is one energy, physical or not.

Lucretius won't accept that your spiritual, neither would Democritus. Now it is difficult to prove the spiritual with physical laws. How can you prove what is neither palpable nor perceptible by the senses? When you sense something, you think about it, but when you intuit something, you feel about it:
SENSING = THINKING
INTUITION = FEELING.
These 2 operate from different dimensions with one always muddled and subject to confusion and the other easily perceived and described. You've got to prove spirit here bro. I'm a christian but we're looking at physical laws viz-a-viz spirit (which is contrary but not contradictory in natures).
Deep Sight:

Agreed. Nevertheless do you agree/ disagree with the surmise in Post No. 22 above – to wit – that all energies are really ONE energy.

Again – do you not perceive that there is but ONE source of all energies: not different energies but different manifestations of ONE AND THE SAME universal cosmic energy for all things. . .


ONE energy is difficult enough in physical terms but one source is impossble unless you describe to me what you mean by source. The sun produce energy, and some energies are derived from the soil. The nature and source of both are not the same (in physical terms) but one can easily act like - or almost like -  the other.

Deep Sight:


If it were possible to measure the energy content of the living rat; and then measure the energy content of the carcass: and ascribe an exact value to each measurement, do you suppose that the values measured would turn out to be exactly and precisely the same?


If this can be measured I believe there would be need to transform density. It's my personal perception that dead bodies tend to weigh more that the live ones. Do we explain the increase in weight in terms of more acquisition of inactive energy or in terms of dispersal of same as you mentioned. If energy is dispersed in dying, what nature does it take? I think the energy remains in the body but is transformed into another usable state. BUT DOES ENERGY HAVE WEIGHT?

Deep Sight:

my chief concern is to demonstrate that there is an element in the picture of the first rat which does not exist in the picture of the second rat: and that that element –

1. Is energy

2. Is not the variant of energy which manifests as physical energy

3. But is nonetheless tied to physical energy in its live manifestation as all energies are ONE AND THE SAME energy.

You got yourself an uphill task brother. I'd be waiting patiently.

Deep Sight:


Let us be slightly careful here. We do agree and understand that energy is neither created nor destroyed – nevertheless this does not mean energy may not be dispersed in different directions – and continue to exist in different dimensions of reality thereby.

What does that mean? Dimensions of reality

Deep Sight:


2. The deterioration would not account for all the difference in value and there would be a quantum of energy that would still be missing on account of the fact that that quantum has been dispersed to another dimension.


Dimension?

Deep Sight:


The grim truth however is that it may not be possible to measure such accurately as the energy expresses itself in variegated forms – heat, degeneration, and others which are not measurable. So this may remain a riddle.

It's a waste of time to try measuring evergy that appear in different forms for the purpose of comparing their values.

There is one thing to to say in the end. How do we say that heat is energy and say that light is also energy, and other forms of energy? What EXACLY is the property in all of them that make them pass the definition of energy?
We always have this primary definition of matter and everyone knows what matter is. Can we pin energy down to such definition and squeeze all other manifestation of the so-called energy into that definition?

Holla!
Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 8:15pm On Jul 27, 2010
tkb417:

bailed out using tax payers money?

and so? did they tell you the money would not be repaid?


Let me tell you what is happening. Vanguard reported about this months before it started happening. Some big dogs want to take over 5 top banks in Nigeria. The Feds pumped in the money in apparent deception. Just as the banks shares are now depreciating as after effect of the CBN stupidity, CBN will now revalue the bailout fund into shares in cerncert with SEC and sell the shares to those big dogs ostensibly to recoup the "tax payers money". But the plan had been hatched long before it materialized. Don't forget that when CBN was giving the money to the 5 banks they made it clear that they would recover the monies thru selling shares of the banks in the capital market.
It's no accident, it's a well ochestrated plan.

Holla!
Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 8:06pm On Jul 27, 2010
Tudór:

Makes no sense to me. If the investor had refused to divest and re-invested his profit and in 2010 his investments are worth 2,000% wouldnt you be the same fellow hailing his ''financial wisdom'' and labelling those who divested as taking an ''unwise'' and ''ignorant'' decision?

No matter how you people try to deceive yourselves therz no set science in stock markets. Its all about gambling and hoping fat thieving CEO's like akingbola manage your investments well. The financial world is full of fat lazy pundits who sit back with the benefit of hindsight and bellow out judgements.

What you don't know might be killing you grin
There is an art of investing, it's hardly a science baby. A wise investor would have in 2008 divested himself of 50% of his holding to recover his full investment and the rest run as free call so that if trouble happens in the market, he'll be at no risk
Investing is no gambling but if you look at it from a novice point of view or from a half-hearted investor point of view, it looks like Asyrian magic. I decide to post a simple market chart to you that I just snapped now, if you're an investor you'd know what to do immediately.

Holla!

Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by precap2(m): 6:41pm On Jul 27, 2010
vedaxcool:

Now let me show more quotes from Hitler and then you can't miss coming to the conclusion that christianity played a major role in making him commit the genocide

* he Epistle of Barnabus shows the Church exalted at the expense of the synagogue and the deadly word "Deicide" (the killing of God) appeared in Christian writings.

* Justin Martyr charged that the Jews crucified Christ in the highest pitch of their wickedness. It was during this time (150 A.D.) that the first encounter with Replacement Theology was embraced where the church replaced the Jews as God's chosen people.

* Tertullian argued that divine judgment is upon Israel, and Jews are destined to suffer for the crucifixion.------------>
"Satan has striven against the TRUTH in manifold ways, he has even tried to destroy it by defending it". . . Tetuillian.

* New ideas opposing "law" sprang up as early as 160-320 A.D. Marcion, 2nd century, adopted Matthew 5:17 as key theme to ending God's law and taught that the grace of God superseded it, rejecting the Old Testament.


Now I believe more than at any other time that you're deranged. Did you see what you wrote above? That you would show more quotes from Hitler and you ended up with puzzles from almost 2000 years ago. Hitler wasn't there then, he was born 20 April 1889, how could you have been quoting what he said about 1800 years before he was born.
Have you ever been admitted in mental hospital before? It's necessary you go for routine check up.

Holla!
Foreign Affairs / Re: Zimbabwe Grows For First Time In 11 Years by precap2(m): 6:02pm On Jul 27, 2010
GenBuhari:

@precap2
It seems u have bought the western propaganda hook,  line and sinker!
Beaf and some others here are trying to enlighten you about the need of independent thinking.

Please take some time out to think about this.


You don't understand my sentiments at all. I hate the West and everything they stand for, but I loathe brothers like Mugabe who give the West reason to think we're not making progress. A narcissist in  position of power is always a huge burden. Mugabe is not doing it right. So also are most of the id.iots across sub-saharan Africa. To praise Mugabe/Tsvangirai for changing currency without improving anything is almost like praising OBJ for licensing GSM operators without providing necessary infrastructure to make things good.
Must Mugabe die there? Are there no other reasonable humans in Zim? He progressively ruined the country from 1980 and you think he should be given more chance to perpetrate more ruin? I don't accept that, only I can't do much to bring a change.

Holla!
Religion / Re: Is Everyone Born With Original Sin? by precap2(m): 5:47pm On Jul 27, 2010
vedaxcool:

You're right no one is born with original sin. You're right again Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world. But you're wrong here: our children are not born with any sin.
The Bible position on the matter is clear, no one will put upon you sin you did not commit. Commission of sin is personal and not transferable. Bible position is very clear unless some people wants to import their church doctrine into the Bible. No one is born with sin.

if you r unable to comprehend an arguement it is no fault of mine as I am explaining your christian beliefs to you. More importantly if you have problems with your christian beliefs take it up with the church authorities dn't blame me.

What caused this particular quarrel now. Or are you against my quoting you?

Holla!
Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 5:40pm On Jul 27, 2010
Tudór:

1.frankly You are talking rubbish

2. Investing in ICB IS investing with Akingbola. I remember the prospectus where his qualities and records where greatly extolled. He is CEO and his is to manage and protect shareholders investments. That is his job description. (we all know how he messed that up)

3. On what basis would it had been ''better financial wisdom'' for the investor to have taken out his money in 2008??

Was there some kind of magical indicator that suggested in 2008 that NOW is the best time to cash in or are you people labelling it ''financial wisdom'' based on the benefit of hindsight

If its the latter then I strongly suggest you all go back to school and learn the basics of business and investment which is plough back profit or re-invest your profits. Shame

You know next to nothing about investing baby. And you must make haste to admit it before your embarrassment over-weigh you.
It might interest you to know that my business is 100% investing. I'm into stocks, hedge, forex, government bonds, commodities- metals, with special knowledge of US stocks. Call me at any minute and ask what the current price of S&P 500 or Dow industrial is and I'll give you some history.
When Intercontinental appreciated by more than 100% in 2008, the investor should have divested himself of 50% of his holding unless he's holding it for the future (in which case he's at no loss, but hopes to collect dividend). If he's interested in the market value of the stock, then he should have sold in 2008, but if he's interested in the value of the corporation, then he should not complain about the market value because he's investing for the future. Ok?

As for investing into Akingbola's hand by investing in the bank and all that, you don't seem to know much about how corporate bodies work. Let me give you a little insight. There was rumor about Microsoft taking over other OS like Solaris, etc, and people rushed to buy MS shares because it means profitable monopoly. MS shares rose from $63.21 to $118.60 in less than 72 hours. Some people still bought it at that peak price before reason prevailed and the price plunged, went down to $71 and could not go higher for several months. Those who bought the share at $118.60 should blame Messrs William Gates and Steve Balmer's managerial incompetence and all? Most Nigerian banks entered the market over-priced. I also follow the history of stocks in Naija with keen interest as I still have a few useless stocks here and there.

Now I must advice you fine-tune your vocabulary. It has too much of unwanted elements, and that's too bad for a lady grin

Holla!
Religion / Re: Evidence Of The Spirit? - Energy Balance & Thermodynamics by precap2(m): 4:53pm On Jul 27, 2010
m_nwankwo:

@Deepsight,

How are you? Your thread is very interesting. Hopefully, I will offer my perception as the thread develops. In the meantime, the following questions may be helpful to you as you articulate your perceptions
1. What is matter?
2. What is Energy?
3. Is energy contained in matter?
4. Can there be matter without energy?
5. Can energy exist without matter?
6. When it is said that energy is transformed from one form to the other, what is it that constitutes these forms?
7. What is counsciousness?
8. What is the relationship between energy and gravity?
9. Is the Sun counscious or is there a Counsciousness that uses the Sun as its cloack?
10. Are there counsciousness in a rock, a brain cell, a tree or a spematozoa? Are there energy in a rock, a brain cell, a tree or a spermatoza?
Stay blessed.

Your questions will drive us into serious epistemological/ontological jamboree and in the end we'll come out smoking like h.ell. Indeed if we delve into the question of consciousness alone, we might cover 200 pages without coming out with a conclusive guide. But I now see the difficulty of even discussing the main topic without these definitions. I think we're stuck somehow.
Even the topic of this discussion isn't helping matters. How do we construe the words and phrases used? "Evidence Of The Spirit? - Energy Balance & Thermodynamics". Do we need to proceed by having a common position on the meaning of energy balance? The "&" in the heading, should it be understood to mean strictly conjunctive or would there be at any time a disjunction of both (because I see possibility of disjunction or discussion might be impossible), etc etc. I think we need to reevaluate everything from start.

Holla!
Religion / Re: Evidence Of The Spirit? - Energy Balance & Thermodynamics by precap2(m): 4:17pm On Jul 27, 2010
Deep Sight:

A good argument may be made that there is no difference between "changing automatically" and "recycled into the universe."

They mean exactly the same thing, do not think of the universe as being "out there" - every part of this earth and its physical processes is part of the universe, no?

Both phrases as used in the quoted context mean the same thing.
All things are included in the universe: uni-verse = union of diversities. All the forces that make things happen, and all the things that happen as a result of these energies are included in the term universe.

Holla!
Foreign Affairs / Re: Zimbabwe Grows For First Time In 11 Years by precap2(m): 2:56pm On Jul 27, 2010
Beaf:

Its a bit strange that the news of Zim's strong growth is coming out of, not just Zim, but institutions like the World Bank and the IMF. . . Now I can understand your wish to doubt news fron Zim, but why on Earth would you doubt the World Bank and the IMF? shocked
I am beginning to believe you are caught in a bit of a mind trap. You need to keep reading articles like this one, cos you are pretty smart.

I know your zeal for our fellow African brothers, but my dad would always say that before work of mercy begins, the truth must be established. It's only when you get the truth that you can know the appropriate terms of mercy. Everything has terms.
I don't think that either world bank or IMF has any good report about Zim's growth, but if you have link, let me read from it. Meanwhile here are some links that might give more insight:
http://data.worldbank.org/data-catalog
Download the appropriate spreadsheet.

Even here Nigeria is at No 44 on GDP while the favored Zim is at No 143, have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

This is the only thing I found that sound like what you were saying before:
"However, the country has shown commitment to economic stabilisation and continuing recovery since dollarisation last year, and economic growth forecast is estimated at around 4.5 percent by year-end.

An IMF visiting mission last month however called for more reforms indicating that Zimbabwe's economic outlook was still 'highly uncertain'"
http://allafrica.com/stories/201007200491.html

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Religion / Re: Is Everyone Born With Original Sin? by precap2(m): 2:19pm On Jul 27, 2010
vedaxcool:

No every child is born good it is the society that corrupt children. And one more thing for the xtains that claim people are born with sin how come after Jesus "died" for your sins your kids are still being born sinners

You're right no one is born with original sin. You're right again Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world. But you're wrong here: our children are not born with any sin.
The Bible position on the matter is clear, no one will put upon you sin you did not commit. Commission of sin is personal and not transferable. Bible position is very clear unless some people wants to import their church doctrine into the Bible. No one is born with sin.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by precap2(m): 1:50pm On Jul 27, 2010
Pimpu:

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Hitler was a Satanist and not a Christian. Just as every other fake religion like to quote Christianity to back up themselves, so he did. But that's good, the devil is not interested in quoting what is from bottom false, that's why everyone wants to corrupt the TRUTH so that all will appear false. Even though I have not verified your quote above knowing full well that Muslims could easily lie with such quotes just to discredit Christianity.
"Satan has striven against the TRUTH in manifold ways, he has even tried to destroy it by defending it". . . Tetuillian.
We can't let Muslims defend Christianity or appropriate Christ as they want to do, let them convert to the TRUTH and acknowledge same to be True.
vedaxcool:

Man thanks you one can only try his best to clear all the cobwebs from the eyes of the Ignorant.I will send you my mail as requested.

What was it Karl Marx said: Religion is the opiate of the masses. It's too pronounced in Muslims. How can ignorant, violent, rageful guy like vedacool say he's clearing cobweb from someones eyes?
Come to Jesus and be lifted from this dungeon of hate and violence.

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Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 1:36pm On Jul 27, 2010
Tudór:

No offense but your comment is totally stupiid and under no circumstance will it hold any reason. Akingbola was never CEO OF AIICO or whatever so there was no basis for your tactless remark.

You didn't understand the guy's/gal's comment. Go back and reread it slowly grin

Tudór:

ah ok, how EXACTLY was the poster ''stupiid''??

Oh, so you do agree investing with a useless, incompetent, hypocritic pastor embezzler like Akingbola who gives a portion of his loot to G.O Adeboye is ''stupidity'', ''not smart'' and ''ignorance''??



I think you attack without understanding it. The guy whose comment was being replied to was stating his ordeal at buying Intercontinental shares which he claimed were depreciating. Buying ICB shares does not translate to investing with Akingbola. And the reply was that he should have taken his profit out in 2008 if he had better financial wisdom. Simple.
However, I know your position concerning Christians. I have read many things posted by you, only try to understand before you reply.

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