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Foreign Affairs / Re: Boycott South Africa! Boycott Dstv, Mtn Etc! See What They Did To Your Brothers! by pwdr: 12:48pm On May 20, 2008
I agree with you 100% Londoner. My post was not to seek justification for their actions, as I dont believe there are any. I merely contrived to highlight the root of the the problem, as many people in this thread seems to be ill informed as to the reasons and nature of the problem.

Also, you are right in saying this is a problem endemic to Africa, and probably why Africa will find itself in this position for many centuries to come. We are so obsessed about being anti-white and anti-european, and obsessed with power, that we can benefit from the vast resources our continent has to offer to uplift us from poverty. Its an African mindset that we are dealing with, and anyone trying to saying anything about this African mindset is seen as anti-african or a pro-white conspirator!

In africa, violence begets violence. We just love keeping ourselves in the dark ages. Thats why the rest of the world will continue to see us in this light. If we can sort out our own problems, why shoud Europe of the rest of the world?

I am ashamed to say that Africa would have been to richest, most developed and advance continent by now if it was not for Africans. What more do we want to be prosperous and successful than what our continent has to offer Its sickening.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Boycott South Africa! Boycott Dstv, Mtn Etc! See What They Did To Your Brothers! by pwdr: 12:27pm On May 20, 2008
Since returning to Nairaland on Friday after 2months absence, nothing has irked me more than this article and I'll tell you why.I have long discovered that Texazzpete's biggest foibles is his willingness to condemn anything done by Africans while nonchalantly glossing over numerous atrocities done by white folks on blacks. I was not surprised after reading this trash. If this was done by white folks, Texazzpete would be rummaging racist archives to justify this "atrocity".
While the "cream" of our society emigrate to the US/UK, the "agberos" "419ers" "Drug peddlers" and their ilk goes to South Africa. Is common knowledge that with less than N70,000, you'll be in SA via Namibia. Does it surprise anyone that the worst Nigerians head towards SA rather than USA?. Its a shame we Nigerians have not changed 50yrs after independence, its all right if we do it to other Africans but anathema if reciprocated decades later. Truth is we did the
same thing to Ghanaians in the eighties. 7million of them were forcefully removed by Shagari. SA is host to millions of Zimbabweans, Nigerians etc,
Anyway this thread would have had more substance if this article was posted by any one other than Texazzpete or the odious duo of davidylan/4play. For people who have patented "Bring em down syndrome", to be shedding crocodile tears is laughable.
You have to be a complete slowpoke to think S Africans hate us because we're Nigerians, and you get an unmitigated "No" from me if you ask me if Nigerians deserve these maltreatment from S Africans.

I could not agree more! I think many people are missing the point completely here, and an emotional response certainly seems like the easiest way to vent anger and outrage at these heinous crimes being committed by fellow Africans. Surely history has taught us better than to beget violence with violence? Cant Africans for once find a rational, logical and intellectual solution and response to the problems endemic to this continent

We need to understand the series failures of factors that led to these brutal and unjustified attacks on immiagrant in SA. SA has been witness to a massive rise in violent crimes during the past 15 years. The post apartheid government have largely turned a blind eye to the high levels of crime, as white and asian people were seen as the likely victims. The government did not only fail its own country by refusing to recognize that crime does not discriminate against race, class and status, but by ignoring crime statistics of epandemic proportions and downplaying it in the media, Mbeki openly advising whites that they are the only people complaining about crime, and if they are not happy about it, they should leave the country, the government was just bound to be caught with its foot in its mouth.
The decision by the South African government to stop the patrolling of many of its borders, and to relinquish the Defence Force from these duties and hand it over to ill-equiped local police forces to police hundreds of kilometres of non-existant border fences, was a recipe for disaster. SA "boasts" one of the largest unemployment rates in the world, once again not helped by the governments denial of this fact, and "opening up" its borders to illegal immigrants was bound to exasperate the desperate socio-economic issues which the country faces on a day-to-day basis.

When black South Africans which have suffered under apartheid, poverty, lack of education and employment, lack of basic housing and other infrastucture realised that their right to these basic things are coming under threat now from fellow africans living here illegally, and they government refuses to hear their plea for help, what else must they resort to??
Put yourself in their position. You sleep in the field, you cant find work, your name has been on a list for years to receive a newly built house under the government's RDP project which promises every South African a free house with water, sanitery and electricity supply, and suddenly an illegal foreigner literally walks into the country, immediately gets a free house, also immediately gets a job because everyone knows an illegal immigrant will work for 1/10th of what a SA citizen will work for, and the government is once again happy to turn a blind eye to the ever growing problem, and has its Home Affairs department embroiled in so much corruption, issuing passports to illegal immigrants like its going out of fasion! Also immagine an illegal immigrant now owning up tp 10 of these free houses that the government built for previously disadvantaged people and renting it out for profit and an income??
There is no other option availible to these people but to resort to violence when their families are starving, they have to steal for food and clothes etc etc.
What would you do in a situation like this? Forget about the help SA's neighbours have provided it. When you live with such less than basic means, your are only concerned about now and where the next meal is going to come from. Not who helped me 20 years ago. To these people, Nigeria was part of the solution and helped fought against the struggle. But right now, ILLEGAL Nigerians, Zimbabweans, Malawians etc etc are a part of the problem.

Everyone is so quick to jump on the bandwagon to condemn these "savages", but when they were crying out for help, everyone failed to act.

Perhaps if you had more understanding of the situation currently being experienced with refards to illegal immigrants in SA, you would think twice about your little revolutions and boycots and racist remarks. These are not attacks against Nigerians or which other nationality and it has nothing to do with apartheid. It has to do with MILLIONS of ILLEGAL immigrants flooding over the borders and robbing SA citizens of their basic rights to work, housing and putting food on the tables of their families without having to resort to a life of crime. The blame lies squarely at the door of the South African government who fails to control its borders, fails to curb corruption within its ranks and fails to listen to the voice of its people, and also fails to fight crime brought on by illegal immigrants who came to SA looking for greener pastures, but failed to find work and make a living, and also had to resort to crime. The government only now, reluctantly, start to realize that black people are also victims of crime, and also bears the brunt if it! I would like to invite anyone to come to SA, take a trip through Hillbrow, its is littered with hundreds of department buildings "hijacked" by Nigerian drug lords running their cartels and syndicates from there. Murder, rape, robbery, assault etc is at the order of the day and the SA Police's hands are tied by red tape and beaurocracy. And the legal owners of the buildings end up writing their property off as a loss as they cant get the courts to order the removal off these illegal occupants, and in the event that they do, they police fail to enforce these orders.

Crime and lawlessness is at the order of the day in South Africa, and illegal immigrants find themselves in the centre of this problem. Unfortunately, to the South Africans finding themselves in dire straits, an immigrant is an immigrant and therefore part of the problem, and they dont care if he/she is here by legal or illegal means. When your culture and way of life is being threatened and the perceived threat is immigration, how exactly do you expect them to react? With idle pleasantries and dialgue??

As I said, nothing justifies murder and the brutal violence, but if you at least just try to understand the root and nature of the problem which brings these issues about, perhaps it might help us look at the situation objectively and approach solutions from a different, more rational perspective, other than just to rant on about silly boycots which will not achieve anything. The SA government does not have any shares or interests in Nandos etc that by boycotting SA brands would make them reconsider their position or start to act differently to what they have the last 14 years.

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