https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxoDTjXJntU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62kn6cg7_w8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M55P_QX4b4M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv-9437DbD4

Synopsis:
A while back I cobbled together a group of guys to make a game in our spare time. I knew all of them were interested in game development so I asked them to meet up and we would meet on the weekends to work. Around that time I was also heavy into African history, folk stories, mythology, and nollywood village movies which can be kinda stark in comparison to the violence of western games/movies. This made me less interested in development of the violence prone project we were working on and more interested in the production & design aspect I could use on other projects later. Eventually we started loosing guys to graduation and work but we got a good bit done so I thought I'd share the journey

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The thread is located in the gaming section but I figured you guys might find it interesting also. I'll updated it every day or so, Enjoy!

https://www.nairaland.com/1584802/watch-us-make-game-using

Synopsis:
A while back I cobbled together a group of guys to make a game in our spare time. I knew all of them were interested in game development so I asked them to meet up and we would meet on the weekends to work. Around that time I was also heavy into African history, folk stories, mythology, and nollywood village movies which can be kinda stark in comparison to the violence of western games/movies. This made me less interested in development of the violence prone project we were working on and more interested in the production & design aspect I could use on other projects later. Eventually we started loosing guys to graduation and work but we got a good bit done so I thought I'd share the journey

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The thread is located in the gaming section but I figured you guys might find it interesting also. I'll updated it every day or so, Enjoy!

https://www.nairaland.com/1584802/watch-us-make-game-using
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ninDm6SrSxg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PAXBpT-Tb0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF6oBN68VJ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXzyNjwjUdc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bngYnYT1YI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEJULX-YM_A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb7P0Er2yZs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR6pYvNlJs0

[size=16pt]VisionStatement[/size]

''__The genesis__ -'' After working on several solo games and understanding how to go from a concept to its on screen implementation I now need to understand how to manage and work within a large team of people to produce games.

What is the impediment to this? How can I find a way around it?
''***** *****''


''Vision - Problem statement''
What is the Problem?
While there are classes that teach material useful in the making of games there is no set curriculum/track of classes that organizes the material in a manner which steps students through the process of making a game be it solo or as part of a team.
Worse still the field is so young that there are no real long standing Theories or linguistics/Vocabulary to use as a base for communication of ideas.

This Affects who?
Myself and all students interested in game design and development.

Why is this a problem?
When I formally make an attempt to go into the field of game development and establish my own team I run the risk of stalling development and burning money while developing standard procedures and a common terminology for the most basic of tasks leading to a host of scheduling and communication problems.
When an attempt is made to go into the field of game development and join an established team former students may have an initially weak ability to contribute to the team in terms of game design and implementation because of unfamiliarity with the development process.

What constitutes a successful solution?
A standard procedure that covers all aspects from design to development. Basic terminology that precisely conveys the topics and ideas covered in each step of the procedure. Work with a sizable team comprised of the multiple disciples involved in game development to successfully complete a game using the standard procedure.


''Vision - Position statement''
This solution is for what people?
Myself and anyone interested in working in the field of game design and development.

This solution meets what need of those people?
It gives working knowledge of the paths and pitfalls on the procedure needed to conceive, design, and implement a game within the framework of a sizable team. It also demonstrates the paths and pitfalls in how to communicate design ideas with others. Finally it gives an opportunity to take on the various positions inherent to game development in a safe environment not hampered by the need to "keep the lights on", please a publisher, or capture the masses.

This solution comes in what form?
A series of game projects that covers and ultimately combines different aspects of development.

This solution benefits those people how?
It provides a practical and economical approach to acquiring the skill set needed to work as a team in the game development field.

What are alternative solutions for those people?
1. Go straight into an established team and learn as you go.
2. Set out on your own, find funding, and open a studio.
3. Join(make) a group that meets the needed solution instead of building(joining) this one.

What makes this solution better than the alternatives for those people?
1. This solution provides a safe place to learn development skills without the added pressure of a career hanging in the balance. It also provides the demonstrative ability(via the series of game projects) to get a person in the door of an established team in the first place.
2. This solution provides a safe place to learn development skills without the added pressure of running out of funds or employee turnover stemming from frustration and or fear of the company going under.
3. (Join)There is no other group to join. (Make)This group is already staffed with knowledgeable people 6 months strong, supplied with equipment, connected to the departments needed to network with students required to fill other development positions, has demonstrated that a game can be made with the tools on hand, has a concrete game coming down the pipeline, has a set of 3 projects in the works clear through fall 2011, etc.



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@@color(red):Project 1: Spring 2011 - Development Process@@
Conception, Analysis, Design & Implementation Procedure - Step by step listing of tasks and desired artifacts stemming from the completion of said tasks.

Heavy Gameplay Development - Set and understand how each position in this development cycle works. Come to grips with how to program in UScript and get gameplay from an idea to a functional product on screen. Develop methods to clearly communicate ideas. Note what effects the development cycle and what keeps it or stops it from running smooth and on track.

Moderate Map/Level Development - Set and understand how each position in this development cycle works. Come to grips with how to work within the editor to make level maps. Designing level maps around a desired gameplay rule set.

Moderate Audio Development - Set and understand how each position in this development cycle works. Come to grips with how to work within the editor to manipulate audio. Mixing and placing of sounds within a level map. Developing music around a desired level map theme.

Simple story Development - Set and understand how each position in this development cycle works. Simple text based story telling integration
Side note - Leave room for asset swaps.


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Heavy Story Development - "Linked Scenario" based story telling.


@@color(blue):Project 3: Fall 2011 - Assets@@
Heavy Custom content - character, Item, and vehicle models & animations. Static meshes.


@@color(purple):Other Projects:@@
Combine knowledge from previous projects to work on all following projects.

A while back I cobbled together a group of guys to make a game in our spare time. I knew all of them were interested in game development so I asked them to meet up and we would meet on the weekends to work. Around that time I was also heavy into African history, folk stories, mythology, and nollywood village movies which can be kinda stark in comparison to the violence of western games/movies. This made me less interested in development of the violence prone project we were working on and more interested in the production & design aspect I could use on other projects later. Eventually we started loosing guys to graduation and work but we got a good bit done so I thought I'd share the journey.

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b) to provide information and assistance to indigenous individuals and communities that seek registration and protection of all forms of indigenous knowledge.

17. The registry and resource center shall employ a fully-compensated staff that shall consist of an Executive Director and all other necessary personnel.

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20. Any individual or entity that knowingly uses any registered indigenous discovery or creation without proper authorization, and without having properly compensated the originator shall commit a [designate class of criminal offense], and shall be liable for a fine of $ [ ].

21. The courts of equity shall have jurisdiction over restitution and reparations claims by indigenous persons against foreign individuals and entities doing business in this country. When such claims assert that the historical use and exploitation of particular indigenous discoveries and creations by foreign individuals and entities resulted in their unjust enrichment, appropriate judgments may be entered.

22. If there has been a judicial determination that tangible assets of any foreign individual or entity that are physically located in this country are the proceeds, or the product of proceeds, of the unauthorized use of indigenous discoveries or creations, they shall be subject to seizure by the State after proper notice to the title holder or putative owner.

kingston277:
...Look at this thread, they want equate the pre-colonial leaders with modern day leaders, ones that housed and fed their citizens with ones that have to go abroad for health care:
https://www.nairaland.com/1365502/why-blacks-destroy-every-neighborhood
smh.

That sh*t is sad man.
The worse part is that they feel like they are being "realistic" "responsible" "progressive" or my personal favorite "civilized"(even though they completely miss the keyword *civil*) Automation & mechanization does not equal civilization; Automized & mechanized barbarians are still practicing barbarism. Simply put mechanized barbarism is still barbarism.

Neutral Example: When the tent dwelling, spear chucking, horse riding Mongolians sacked and overran china they were barbarians being barbarous. When the mansion/castle dwelling, rifle/cannon shooting, galleon/wagon riding Europeans sacked and overran china they were also barbarians being barbarous.

Self haters conveniently skip that and other episodes in world history nor do they dare say they the fact that china was overrun by a pack of tent dwellers on horse back means that they should stop city planning, administrative practices, civil engineering projects, etc. and accept the superior tent dwelling "civilization" that was obviously justified by chinas round defeat and occupation by Mongolians. Nor do they say that the Japanese should give up their Shinto tree, rock, etc spirits and become "civilized"(or in self hater language "industrialized", "mechanized", & "automized" ...which is what they really mean when they say "civilized"

As concerns my ideas surrounding African spirituality I suggest you checkout my reply on the second page of...
https://www.nairaland.com/1554976/whats-literal-translation-north-south/1


As I like to say...
1. Freedom is a necessity but not enough. Choices are predicated on what you know at the time of calculating a decision. If I control what you know I control the range of your possible choices.
2. Knowledge is a necessity but not enough. Knowledge derives it's usefulness from being processed when calculating a decision. The smaller the range of process you are capable of carrying out the less you can do with what you know.
3. Processing(intelligence) is a necessity but not enough. There are a series of Processes done in executing a plan. If you have no plan your interests are subject to those who do have a plan. Be that in using your ability to process knowledge to further their plans(not yours) or simply by your interests being displaced in the execution of their plans.
4. Plans are a necessity but not enough. Plans are simply a means to accomplishing a goal. If you have no goals in life your interests are subject to those who do have a goal. Be that in using your ability to plan and/or process knowledge to further their goals(not yours) or simply by your interests being displaced in the execution of their goals.
5. There are more but I can successfully reply without stating the rest


While I commend the Self haters for wanting better for themselves and Africa as a whole.

I question...
1.The range of knowledge they have at there disposal when coming to their stated positions
2.The range of processes they were able to employ on that knowledge.(Which led to their inability to make historically consistent positions)
3.The extent to which their self hate surrounding colonization impedes absorption, development, & execution of new knowledge and processes.

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3. The NRC shall be governed by a nine member board of directors. Members of the board of directors shall be citizens of this country by birth and shall be selected at random and by lottery by the Ministry of [ ] to serve a single one year term. Each member of the board of directors shall meet the following requirements:
a.) He/she shall be at least 21 years of age;
b.) He/she shall not have a criminal conviction for any offense involving theft or dishonesty;
c.) He/she shall have completed at least three years of secondary education
d.) He/she shall not have as their primary occupation, any of the occupations listed in Appendix A.

4. The NRC shall maintain a full-time compensated staff that shall assist the work of the board of directors. To that end, the staff shall perform for the board of directors tasks that shall include, but not be limited to: research, analysis, counsel, and all tasks necessary for the establishment and implementation of policies set by the board of directors. The staff shall consist of an executive director and such other personnel as may be necessary for the work of the corporation. All employers shall be required to accommodate those selected for service on the board of directors by granting leave time as may be necessary. Employers may request from the state compensation for any financial losses directly resulting from an employee’s service on the board of directors.

5. It shall be a felony, punishable by a minimum fine of [ ] and incarceration for a period of not less than [ ], for any member of the board of directors to accept a payment, gift or any thing of value from any individual, foreign government, or corporation, in exchange for any act in connection with the work of the NRC.

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9. Private domestic and foreign individuals and corporations that have maintained natural resource operations in this country prior to the enactment of this Act shall have a period of five (5) years from the date of enactment of this Act to wind down and conclude all such operations. The state shall have authority to seize and permanently retain operations maintained by individuals and entities that unlawfully remain in operation after the five year period of transition. Licensing terms that governed such operations prior to the enactment of this Act shall remain in effect during the five year period of transition. If any private, domestic or foreign individual or entity shall fail to comply with licensing terms; or, if any such individual or entity shall engage in acts intended to damage, destroy, disrupt or in any way detrimentally affect the natural resources of this country, the state shall serve a notice on such individual or entity that specifies the unlawful conduct and t hat commands that such conduct cease forthwith. The state shall have authority to seize and permanently retain operations maintained by individuals and entities that, after receipt of a required notice, fail to comply with this section.

10. A special standing commission shall be established for the purpose of evaluating claims for compensation for resources, materials, equipment, facilities and other privately owned assets that may come into the possession of the state by way of seizure or otherwise by operation of this Act. The commission shall consist of five members. Two members shall be appointed by the Prime Minister. Three members shall be appointed by the Parliament pursuant to procedures to be established by that body.

11. Those making claims for compensation shall investigate and disclose to the Special Commission all records of any kind that may be in the claimant’s possession, or that may be reasonably accessible to the claimant, that may relate in any way to any past or present involvement, directly or indirectly with individuals, governments, organizations, institutions or entities of any kind that generated or received pecuniary income incident to involvement in the colonization of this country’s territory, or the Trans-Atlantic slave trade.

12. In evaluating claims for compensation, the Special Commission shall make unjust enrichment the central focus of its inquiry, and shall decline to award compensation in any amount to any claimant who has either generated or received pecuniary income (directly or indirectly) incident to involvement in the colonization of this country’s territory or the Trans-Atlantic slave trade that exceeds or is equivalent to the value of the claim asserted. In assessing the relative values of claims and past income, the Special Commission shall make appropriate adjustments that take into account historical changes in the world economy.

13. The Special Commission shall have authority to deny compensation to claimants who have been unjustly enriched by virtue of past practices unrelated to colonization and the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. Past practices of claimants that might warrant the denial of claims might include, but not be limited to: racial discrimination, exploitative labor practices, unlawful conduct, and unfair trade practices. A challenge to a claim on such grounds shall be the subject of a hearing that affords to the claimant full rights to due process.

14. The Special Commission shall have authority to determine that past practices of a claimant caused unjust enrichment of a value that exceeds the value of the asserted claim, and that the claimant shall be required to make restitution to the national treasury of an appropriate amount. A demand for restitution shall be the subject of a hearing that affords the claimant full rights to due process.

Preamble

Whereas, this country was subjected to an extended period of colonization by [ ], which led to the interruption and reversal of this nation’s economic and political development; and

Whereas, the colonization of this country was part of a global, systemic effort by Europe to facilitate Europe’s industrialization; and

Whereas, the colonization of this country was inextricably linked to the colonization of the rest of the African continent; and

Whereas, European colonizing countries, by force of arms, fraud, deception and other illegal and unscrupulous means, extracted mineral resources from this country, and permanently deprived this country’s indigenous population of the occupation and use of the most arable land; and

Whereas, the wealth generated from this country’s mineral resources and land was exported to the colonizing countries without any residual benefits for this country and other African countries; and

Whereas, the actions taken by colonizing countries to facilitate exploitation of their colonies’ mineral resources and land in many cases caused permanent damage to this country and otherwise limited the capacity of this country to develop economically; and

Whereas, the Trans-Atlantic slave trade, that began in or about the 15^th Century, and that resulted in the enslavement of an inestimable number of Africans who were relocated by force to various regions in the Western Hemisphere, caused Africa to be depopulated to a degree that the impact of colonialism was exacerbated; and

Whereas, settlers and private foreign business entities established operations in this country during the colonial period that have continued uninterrupted until the date of this Act; and

Whereas, the business operations established by the [ ] government, settlers and private foreign business entities during the colonial period have, in many cases resulted in the exploitation of this country’s land, traditional knowledge and mineral resources to the disadvantage of the
indigenous population; and

Whereas, during the post-colonial period, settlers and private foreign business entities have continued exploitative practices that include, but are not limited to: domination of this country’s most arable land; overseas marketing of traditional knowledge without compensation to
indigenous originators; mining and marketing of petrochemicals and minerals without adequate compensation to the State and the indigenous population; and

Whereas, since this country gained its independence, certain individuals and clans who are part of the indigenous population have replicated, for their own benefit, certain exploitative practices of the colonizing country; and

Whereas, the full and proper development of this country requires the control of its natural wealth by all members of the indigenous population,

NOW THEREFORE BE IT ENACTED:

Can you unban me and unhide from...
https://www.nairaland.com/1554976/whats-literal-translation-north-south

Thanks

@Metaphysical

Sorry I've been away, I get spooked by the spambot from time to time and stop posting to avoid getting hit. In the process I sometimes lose threads I was contributing to.

I wanted to highlight the significance of your post further and why I feel it's very useful to me and my intellectual development.

Though before I start I just wanted to point out something in reference to the north star. That's what I was referring to In post #19 But I didn't want to relegate it solely to the north star(might have used another method unknown to me) so I made a generalization concerning the use of stars for navigation.

RandomAfricanAm: Yeah when you said North I should have asked if you knew the means by which north & south was determined.
Examples:
1. Perpendicular to east/west path of sun
2. Tree moss (moss avoids sun so it grows thickest on north or south face)

3. Termite mound face (same as tree moss its widest side faces north/south directions)

4. Star charts & constellations (stars appear in set places of the sky at night)
5. Etc...
6. Etc...
After a method is successfully carried out(saw tree moss) the direction that has been determined is delineated with the term Mgbago(or mgbada).
So now that we know the terms do you know the traditional method for determining north & south prior to Europeans coming in slapping there terminology & methods everywhere?

That said I felt your post was very important to me because it caused me to revisit a very important point in my intellectual development and expand on it using insight I gained since first visiting the idea some years ago.

At some point over the past 5 years or so I came across the "Green Saharan" cattle cults. They were important to me because it was one of the first records of spirituality in Africa and dates before Nile valley civilizations and by extension more recent notions of anthropomorphized ideas of "God"/spirits/angels/etc purported by Europeans.

My personal interpretations were that through basic observation of the utility of cattle(milk, blood, dung*?fuel & housing?*, bone tools, meat, etc) the Saharan dwellers developed a positive emotional relationship with and appreciation for the cattle. That appreciation manifesting in how they treat the cattle and the larger spiritual practices surrounding their shared life and times. The conclusion I gained from this interpretation being that spirituality has nothing to do with apparitions and ghost that materialize from the air touch you then turn into smoke or fantastic sky beings in the clouds.

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I then conceived of spirituality as the personal relationship a person has with observed/experienced phenomena(or as the Egyptians called it ntr/neter).

When I moved forward in time this view of spirituality allowed me to view spiritual systems in the Nile valley civilizations Kerma /Kemet(Ancient Egypt)/Kush from a purely African context. So instead of the Egyptian Neteru being "Gods" in the European sense (I.E apparitions), I was able to view them as observable of phenomena that those Africans defined their relationship with (I.E. Hapi has nothing to do with a water apparition materializing out of thin air flooding the Nile then turning to smoke. It's an observation of the natural flooding of the Nile, it's related utility, and the peoples relationship with it). Taking this view I expanded the same approach to other African societies and their spiritual systems where for example I don't view Ogun through European lens as an apparition. I view Ogun through an African lens as the observation of the utility that iron serves in society(cultivation tools, war weapons, etc) and the acknowledged spiritual/emotional relationship society has with that utility. Spirituality serves to note the level of importance of various ntr(phenomena) in a society and serves as a means to direct your spiritual/emotional/intellectual energies concerning it. Another plus is that this approach allows me to use terms from different African societies interchangeably by noting that it is the shared/common African observation of ntr(phenomena) that I'm referring to not some specific anthropomorphized African "God".
Example: Shared/Common observation (Kemet: ka, Mande: Nyama, Igbo: chi, Yoruba: ase, English: Force)

It also allowed me to do something outside of what most practice. Which is to turn around and view European practices through an African lens and vocabulary instead of always being on the intellectual defensive(Viewing Africa through a European lens then being defensive of what's seen). The best insight I've received from this practice was to look at the incomplete(Note: I didn't say incorrect) means by which Europeans reason. Most notably the incomplete nature of platonic objective reasoning I.E "I'm just being objective here".

In a bid to dictate who should rule over the (people/Republic) Plato put forth the notion that truth(African context: Ma'at*natural order of ntr*) is known through the knower (African context: ntr observer) detaching themselves from the known(African context: ntr observed) leaving only rational objective based thought with no emotional/spiritual attachment. Those who can do this should rule over those who don't/can't. The problem/incompleteness with this is that there is no such thing as "The truth" there's only "A Truth". You choose between multiple "Truths" by the implications connected to the implementation of each truth. The choice between which implementation to employ is dictated by the spiritual/emotional connection the knower(African context: ntr observer) has with the known(African context: ntr observed) object(whether the knower acknowledges that connection or not) or it's recursively dictated by another truth which loops until it terminates at a spiritual/emotion position.

I put forth that Plato didn't catch this incompleteness because he was preoccupied with justifying a rationale to rule over his imagined republic. This rationale justification is the main issue that I have with European. They hide their (hatred, fear, greed, ambitions, etc) behind the notion of the rationale/justification (I.E objective reasoning) ...as we all know a person can justify anything.

Note 2 da kiddies: Rational thought, logic, reason, etc. does give you an observable "A Truth" and what's "not Truth" but it does not give you what is good, bad, right, wrong, or "The truth". It simply gives you an intellectual position that has been arrived at by way of processing consecutive intellectual positions; along with the means to recall those consecutive positions and processes used in arriving at that current/final intellectual position. A perfect example of this glaring incompleteness is the ongoing global warming "debate". Given that you can rationalize anything and that Europeans hide their emotional positions behind this "platonic rationale" both sides keep sparing with "Dueling Truths" while the world waits in the wind.

What you reminded me to do: @Metaphysical
After I had the insight concerning the cattle cults I immediately went forward in time to apply that insight to Pharaonic spiritual systems and the wider African spiritual world. You reminded me that there were other ntr(phenomena) that those early pastoralist and agriculturalist observed. By extension they also had some kind of spiritual relationship with those observed ntr(phenomena) which means I would do well to go back and check out how those people observed their surroundings(which is what you alluded to and reminded me of).

Thanks!

@kingston277
Thumbs up to you. That said you are going to run into the same problems with the self haters over and over. Typical broad issues are...
1. The attempt of translating African ideas/institutions into incompatible European intellectual containers.
2. A poor(lopsided) grasp of the general history of Humans and their activity through time.
3. A poor ability to process historical knowledge of Human activity through time to make insightful descriptions of todays society.
4. Misguided rationalizations exacerbated by issues #1-3 above.
5. Dogged stubbornness brought on by the idea that "I didn't come to this conclusion by an emotional fit, I came to a rational well thought-out conclusion". This being done under the more fundamental issue noted in #4
6. A poor "spiritual/emotional" relationship with the topic under discussion brought on by personal observation(school/real world) of that topic. While the rationalization serves as justification for the stated position; the spiritual relationship mediates which rationalization was stated in the first place.




I feel a need to repost this...

RandomAfricanAm:
Two major vectors of foreign cultural attack...

1. Media(music, movies, TV shows, websites, sports)
2. Returnees from the Diaspora(People associate the status of these people not merely with application of education; but also with hairstyles, speech, clothing, etc)
**I should also add the vestiges of the old colonial education system that's still in place**

Note: number 2 is the vector I have the most issue with concerning these self hating people. The most ironic display being the ones who complain about "backward superstitious people" who then basically attempt to devour other peoples culture in a bid to be like (insert perceived quality here). what makes that ironic is they are employing the same logic as a person killing a lion and devouring it's flesh in a bid to be like (insert perceived quality here). It's the same line of logic except concerning a different entity.

Note 2: Colonization provides the gapping hole for those cultural mores to take a stronger hold then they normally would otherwise. The self haters also seem to believe that the fact that the colonial period(that only lasted 50ish years ...spain was occupied for 800) occurred is a rationalization for their cultural "betrayal".

MODEL CODE FOR THE RECLAMATION, PROTECTION AND PRESERVATION OF AFRICAN LAND, TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND MINERAL RESOURCES

(Note to Public: The causes of devastating problems that afflict large regions of Africa can usually be traced to external sources. The continent’s vast natural and human wealth have been objects of obsession by non-Africans for at least five centuries. The slave trade along Africa’s coastal regions was followed in short order by European penetration into Africa’s interior, allowing the slave industry to expand its reach. Eventually, the various European countries began to compete for access to, and domination of Africa’s natural resources such as gold, diamonds, and ivory. This "scramble for Africa" prompted the infamous Berlin Conference of 1884 - 85 where representatives of most European countries carved Africa into regions and agreed to peacefully and amicably share domination of the African continent. Britain, France, Belgium, Portugal and other European countries transformed their regions into colonies that were exploited in every way for the benefit of the European "mother" countries. As the profitability of slavery declined, the interest in Africa’s natural resources increased. Dutch, Portuguese and British settlers identified land itself as a natural resource to dominate and exploit in Africa’s southern regions.

The extent of African resistance to these campaigns of domination and exploitation is frequently ignored or minimized. However, even in the many instances when Africans were overwhelmed by Europe’s firearms and broad world view, Africans never stopped fighting. This resistance was so protracted and determined that by the late 1950s, Europe began to recognize that colonialism in its original form could not be sustained for any significant period into the future. Although one African country after another began to win nominal independence throughout the 1960s and into the 1970s, western economic interests were unwilling to surrender their access to Africa’s wealth. The International Monetary Fund and the World Bank began to extend "loans" to impoverished African countries that had been severely underdeveloped during the colonial era. The conditions of these loans were generally designed to ensure that western corporations had continuing access to African resources, even if this required the reduction or elimination of social services and the most basic human necessities. The minority settler regimes of southern Africa proved to be the most stubborn in the face of African demands for independence and self-determination. Even in the aftermath of successful liberation wars in the southern countries, European settlers have clung tenaciously to the land.

The prospect of reclaiming Africa’s resources seems to many to be at best a daunting challenge, and at worst an impossible fantasy. Although the National Conference of Black Lawyers (NCBL) is convinced of the inevitability of African liberation, self-determination and redemption, the organization is aware of the ongoing efforts to deny Africa’s people a vision of not only what Africa can be, but also the feasibility of making the vision a reality. It is with this in mind that NCBL has developed this model code. Model codes are frequently tailored by lawyers and legislators to meet the particular needs of their constituents as they craft new laws. However, it is not anticipated that this model code will be seriously considered for enactment by lawyers and legislators. It is hoped that the everyday people of Africa will have opportunities to examine it, discuss it and thereby develop a vision for how to loosen the foreign grip on resources that by right belong to Africa’s indigenous population. NCBL therefore encourages the wide dissemination of this code throughout Africa and also the African Diaspora where the descendants of the continent’s kidnapped sons and daughters also have more to gain from a truly self-sufficient, self-sustaining Africa than even they know. –Mark P. Fancher, Chair, NCBL International Affairs Section -)

NCBL Proposes Law For Africans to Reclaim Africa's Natural Wealth



The National Conference of Black Lawyers (NCBL) commemorates African Liberation Day by proposing a legal blueprint for reclaiming Africa’s natural wealth from foreign corporations and settlers. NCBL’s newly-drafted Model Code for the Reclamation, Protection and Preservation of African Land, Traditional Knowledge and Mineral Resources will be published to various African political parties and journalists on May 25, the date when many African communities around the world annually affirm a commitment to the full liberation of Africa and the continent’s descendants.

"Model codes" are sample laws that legislative bodies use as guides when drafting new legislation. "We don’t expect our Model Code to find its way into the laws of African countries right away, but we do hope that it will help create for Africa a vision of how Africans can establish a legal framework for the expulsion of foreign corporations that exploit Africa’s natural resources," said Mark P. Fancher, Chair of NCBL’s International Section.

ijigaparadox: British and American culture are good examples

I like to define it as...

- white folks and "friends"

Great post here.
Two of my previous post dealing with this era my also be of interest.



When the Arabian peninsula was Northeast Africa
https://www.nairaland.com/1530367/when-arabian-peninsula-northeast-africa

An Account Of The Dispersal Of People Across The Sahale
https://www.nairaland.com/1519253/account-dispersal-people-across-sahale

Two major vectors of foreign cultural attack...

1. Media(music, movies, TV shows, websites, sports)
2. Returnees from the Diaspora(People associate the status of these people not merely with application of education; but also with hairstyles, speech, clothing, etc)

Note: number 2 is the vector I have the most issue with concerning these self hating people. The most ironic display being the ones who complain about "backward superstitious people" who then basically attempt to devour other peoples culture in a bid to be like (insert perceived quality here). what makes that ironic is they are employing the same logic as a person killing a lion and devouring it's flesh in a bid to be like (insert perceived quality here). It's the same line of logic except concerning a different entity.

Note 2: Colonization provides the gapping hole for those cultural mores to take a stronger hold then they normally would otherwise. The self haters also seem to believe that the fact that the colonial period(that only lasted 50ish years ...spain was occupied for 800) occurred is a rationalization for their cultural "betrayal".

AmunRaOlodumare:
"Any characterization of race of the ancient Egyptians depends on modern cultural definitions, not on scientific study. Thus, by modern American standards it is reasonable to characterize the Egyptians as "blacks", while acknowledging the scientific evidence for the physical diversity of Africans.” - Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt (2001)

Ejection from the Sahara: Eastward
To the east they gathered around the Nile valley

"The evidence also points to linkages to
other northeast African peoples, not
coincidentally approximating the modern
range of languages closely related to
Egyptian in the Afro-Asiatic group
(formerly called Hamito-Semetic). These
linguistic similarities place ancient
Egyptian in a close relationship with
languages spoken today as far west as
Chad, and as far south as Somalia.
Archaeological evidence also strongly
supports an African origin. A widespread
northeastern African cultural assemblage,
including distinctive multiple barbed
harpoons and pottery decorated with
dotted wavy line patterns, appears during
the early Neolithic (also known as the
Aqualithic, a reference to the mild
climate of the Sahara at this time).
Saharan and Sudanese rock art from this
time resembles early Egyptian
iconography. Strong connections
between Nubian (Sudanese) and
Egyptian material culture continue in
later Neolithic Badarian culture of Upper
Egypt. Similarities include black-topped
wares, vessels with characteristic
ripple-burnished surfaces, a special
tulip-shaped vessel with incised and
white-filled decoration, palettes, and
harpoons...

Other ancient Egyptian practices show
strong similarities to modern African
cultures including divine kingship, the
use of headrests, body art, circumcision,
and male coming-of-age rituals, all
suggesting an African substratum or
foundation for Egyptian civilization..

Source: Donald Redford (2001) The
Oxford encyclopedia of ancient Egypt,
Volume 3. Oxford University Press. p.
28




When the Arabian peninsula was Northeast Africa
https://www.nairaland.com/1530367/when-arabian-peninsula-northeast-africa

Well I guess there is nothing wrong with watching a British propaganda film or two every now and again

Wooo boy!
The self hate on display here is building up I see.

Lets check on the non-sense that was going on here.
Hmm, nothing new ...I'll continue waiting.

Radoillo II: Why's Somalia a member of the Arab League, tho? I've never been able to understand that.

Some of them don't understand it either...
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/somalia/TRLDRRT76J9KL3GCQ

The Myth About Wall Geckos
https://www.nairaland.com/1241579/myth-wall-geckos
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What does 'agu ulo' mean anyway?