MikeCZAR:
Yes, you might be right there.

jln115:

"SANDF wouldn't understand that as it has never been in real combat":
Battel of Govender's Ridge
Battle of Kibati/Triple Towers
Battle of Beni
Battle of Kitchanga
Battle of Nyiabiondo/Lukweti[
Battle of Bangui

Note, all these battles took place in the last 2 years.

Secondly im not dismissing that there weren't blue on blue casualties between American and UK soldiers, but you have to take into account that most blue on blue casualties were from aircraft bombing runs and not soldiers firing on each others.

jln115:

Nope I don't know it was the South African Navy, its yet to be proved.
And yes simulation is different from real combat, but the fact that you brag about Nigeria being in a civil war and thus are more experienced is shocking, ill rather be at peace than at war, but hey that's just me.

And our soldiers see enough combat during peace keeping missions, not as much as Nigerian soldiers(because we are not at war), and what we lack in experience we make up for in training and the passing down of past experiences by our Vets.

agaugust:


Nope, you are the joke :


(1) Those two videos you compare are WRONG !

The first is NOT American navy, it is a mere civilian coastguard cutter firing.

The second is an unidentified Russian water security vessel NOT said to be navy, so NOT navy until proved....and that Russian ships is a damn old vessel with obsolete guns. All those videos are old aged films from many decades of years back.

South African navy prides itself in modern sea vessels......so you over bloated your ego with the noise about "SANDF is modern with sophisticated radar guided powerful guns".

(2) A vessel 22m size about the same size as a Nigerian navy Shaldag gunboat is a BIG TARGET O !

Thanks for confirming that South African navy gunners CANNOT hit target on a Nigerian navy gunboat, so our navy will sink your ships then !

Your over hyped blue water navy CANNOT hit a brown water vessel

SAN is a joke


(3) Russian video of sea men playing ? American civilian coastguard? Who cares? This thread is for African military forces, and we don't give a fvck about western water guards here.

Lets talk about Africa, stay on topic.

Now you want to excuse a South African military failure by comparing American navy? Really ?

Remember that for the [ast two years in Nigeria's Boko Haram war, on this forum if we say America is failing to stop terrorism in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen.....Israel is failing to wipe out Hamas in Gaza, Pakistan a nuclear power is failing to stop terrorism at home even today....You block your ears and refuse to listen or compare foreign nations, you focus all your ridicule and scream of incompetence on Nigeria, as if
America, Kenya, etc are not failing to stop terrorism.

Now your own incompetent South African navy is a big failure at home and CANNOT shoot a simple gun on target, then you want to use American examples to justify your own SAN incompetence in combat drills ? NO.....NO.....NO !!! This forum is for African military alone.

South African navy is now on the table for open yansh azz examination.....and we see all your navy's shiiit

You claimed to have sank a NATO naval fleet in war games with your SAN submarine without firing any weapons, sure if you fired your torpedoes, all will miss target and that NATO fleet will retaliate with ASW helos and sink your incompetent sailors and submarine .

SAN Mumus that cannot handle simple naval gun wants to handle naval torpedoes.....you will FAIL !

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jln115:

Thanks for the screen-grab mate! you proved my point, nowhere in that article those it state it was a SAN ship

Msauza:



We do not have overhyped blue water navy, we have blue water capable navy, the only one in sub-saharan Africa.

jln115:

Are you boasting about how your soldiers were killed by their own colleagues?
You need help bro!

mzilakazi:



The Nigerian army literally killed own forces.

Utter useless army!!!

DieVluit:


As of today.

DieVluit:


The facts being that Chad captured the town for you. You failed to keep it secure. They had to go back to recapture it. Simple.

agaugust:


You dey mind dat mumu ?

SA mercenaries "attacking only at night"....because Boko Haram is asleep during the day and does not operate, or they just allow Boko Haram to freely operate in day time killing thousands of innocent civilians, unrestrained and unstoppable because SA mercenaries are waiting for night fall so that they can strike back in the dark like Bat-Men

When Chadian army had become rendered useless by Nigerian army, the white people's foreign media now want to transfer glory to nocturnal Dracula-Vampire night-flight-only South African mercenaries
.

DieVluit:
Why Nigeria is turning to South African mercenaries.

http://theconversation.com/why-nigeria-is-turning-to-south-african-mercenaries-to-help-fight-boko-haram-38948


former members of the South African Air Force have been operating gunships mostly based out of Maiduguri, and have flown “a huge number of sorties, including nocturnal operations, with great success”. The mercenaries appear to have adopted a rather low profile, attacking usually at night and pulling out in the morning for the Nigerian government to claim credit. This suggests a deliberate desire to maintain a low profile and shows that the contractors are working closely with the Nigerian armed forces throughout this process.

Henry120:

I no lie, I wish say we get dem type of photographers.

However, I noticed their photos aren't from the government per say (although their military provides Helicopters to enable them take those panoramic shots), 80% of the photos come from private collections.

agaugust:

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Israel salutes mighty Nigerian army....

USA, UK, EU, RSA...Shame on you all !


Watch out, many powerful military forces from all over the world be begging for training in Nigerian military academies.

Noboby of importance is going to SANDF battle school where lecturers have never experienced battle, yet they teach
.

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/03/16/tough-nigerian-soldiers-enter-a-state-full-of-terrorists-and-eliminate-them-all-this-is-how-you-fight-terror/
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Msauza:
DEFEATING BOKO HARAM WITH MERCENARIES.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/03/defeating-boko-haram-with-mercenaries/

patches689:


So then, by implication, south africans are in combat?

DieVluit:


A man hanging himself.

patches689:


How do you train IN combat without being IN combat?

patches689:


Do you often train men in the combat zone?

DieVluit:


You read the article.




Exactly! Which is why Goodluck's statements have no value.



That would be you, based on the above.

Henry120:




South-Africans......... SMH!

DieVluit:


The New York Times is similar to "wordpress"? Please tell us how?

Whenever you are ready.

Again,

:Hundreds of mercenaries from South Africa and other countries are playing a decisive role in Nigeria’s military campaign against Boko Haram, operating attack helicopters and armored personnel carriers and fighting to retake towns and villages captured by the Islamist militant group, according to senior officials in the region.

The Nigerian government has not acknowledged the presence of the mercenaries, but a senior government official in northern Nigeria said the South Africans — camped out in a remote portion of the airport in Maiduguri, the city at the heart of Boko Haram’s uprising — conducted most of their operations at night because “they really don’t want to let people know what is going on.”


The mercenaries “are in the vanguard in the liberation of some of the communities,” the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

DieVluit:


Wordpress? A blog? Please miss me with your blogs, fam.

Here's something "from the people on the ground"

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/13/world/africa/nigerias-fight-against-boko-haram-gets-help-from-south-african-mercenaries.html?_r=0

Hundreds of mercenaries from South Africa and other countries are playing a decisive role in Nigeria’s military campaign against Boko Haram, operating attack helicopters and armored personnel carriers and fighting to retake towns and villages captured by the Islamist militant group, according to senior officials in the region.

The Nigerian government has not acknowledged the presence of the mercenaries, but a senior government official in northern Nigeria said the South Africans — camped out in a remote portion of the airport in Maiduguri, the city at the heart of Boko Haram’s uprising — conducted most of their operations at night because “they really don’t want to let people know what is going on.”


The mercenaries “are in the vanguard in the liberation of some of the communities,” the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

DieVluit:


You are the one who spoke about people "on the ground". Therefore, it follows that the following should be pointed out to you:

"The people on the ground - officials at that - confirm that South African mercenaries are in the think of things in Nigeria; and they have been quite effective"

Naturally, you won't NEED the links because you've seen them already. They have been posted a hundred times over on the thread.

Facts are facts.

Your mechanics story does not come from "people on the ground". It comes from the administration of one Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.

You hung yourself today. Be angry with yourself.

Patchesagain:


Foreign media have shown that he is telling lies.

Photographs have been posted of white men commanding vehicals at the front

DieVluit:


First - They "understand" what is happening because Goodluck Ebele Jonathan said so.

Second - you are not "on the ground".

Third - reports from officials "on the ground" confirm that the South Africans are fighting; and that their role has been significant. Just ask and we will give you the links....again.

Patchesagain:


AK-47 is a trash weapon, its only redeeming quality is that it is cheap

Nigeria has no missile armed drones

Gripen can operate in the ISTAR role

And since we are comparing, Nigeria has no subs, no modern missile armed warships, no modern aircraft, no PGM's, no fast recon assets, no dedicated attack helo's, no data-link, no bluefor trackers, no advanced communication equipment, no mobile radar systems, no feild camp systems, no feild bakery systems, no mobile feild hospital systems, no adequate surveillance equipment, no advanced training facilities or equipment, no ability to air-drop supplies, no air-deployable assets or weapons systems, no standardized equipment (webbing, unfirorms, chest-rigs)

Stop talking out your arse