RedboneSmith:
A little question, please.

If Oba is the generic Yoruba word for King, what about Olu? It is just a mere synonym, or are there differences between Olu and Oba?

Or is the difference one of dialect, where Oba is prevalent in one part of Yorubaland and Olu is prevalent in another?

Olu is like a Lord of a province. which can also mean a King or not.

Olu of Ibadan is Olubadan
Oluwa - Lord most high
Olu of Ilaro is the lord of Ilaro.
Olu of Warri (ogiame) is the lord of Warri
Olu of Otta is the Olotta.
Olu of Ikare is the Olukare

It is not a dialectal difference per say as it exists in all Yoruba dialects. it is just semantics.
It is like saying "King Edward who is the Lord of France, Monarch of the Gauls and Sovereign of all lands there in"

Edeyoung:


We are assuming it is yoruba, but why was the name adopted for generality

No assumptions. It is simply Yoruba, no arguments.

All those other words (or Appellations) you are quoting do not mean King.

Kabiyesi does not mean King. It means - "Must not be questioned"
Ooni which is short for "Owoni and derived from an even older Yoruba term "Oghonne" does not mean King.
Alaafin does not mean King.
These are all just regional identifiers for various Obas.

What is King in Yoruba language is "Oba". The prmordial Yoruba Orisha "Obatala" means the "King of purity". Oba meaning king, and Ala meaning purity. There is also Obaluaye, Obalufon etc. All meaning King of different things/entities/concepts.

LorrdSky:


[s]Those tribes you mentioned were not inferior, they were part of Edo the Benin Empire.

Argue with your ancestors [/s]

Stop fooling yourself. They were all inferior to Binis because at the apex of the Benin kingdom was the Benin royal court and chieftain followed by the Benin people. That is why Benin did not allow any other traditional ruler in that area to bear OBA as a title. Something they themselves got from the Yorubas. That is why they would use urhobos as human sacrifice and why they would sell Afemais into slavery.

The entire Benin court culture was imported from Yorubaland. Oba as a word for the paramount ruler DOES NOT exist in any Edoid language but Benin. What you will see is Ojie, Ogie, Ovie Etc... and even in Benin there are still two words Oba and Ogie.
A Benin troupe still performed 'Ijesu N'Ogie' or 'Jesus is King' at my company's december gala. That is the default word for king in the Benin language EXCEPT when they are specifically referring to the palace court of the Omonoba which then they use 'Oba'.

LorrdSky:
The Benin Empire colonized the YorubaLand so the Yorubas adopted the tradition of Benin people.

Yoruba people in Togo went as far as renaming their country from Dahomey to Benin Republic.

Stoopid.
So Benin 'colonized' Yoruba and Yorubas adopted Oba, but the neighbouring Esan, Afemai, Isoko, Urhobo people that speak similar languages and share similar customs from the start could not adopt it? lol.... shouldn't that tell you that it is actually a word that came from the Yoruba direction?
Oba is a Yoruba word planted into Benin just like many other Yoruba traditions and Vocabulary now replete in the Bini language.... Like Kpataki, Ogede, Itan, Aga, Ada, Olori (Oloi), Ogun, Ago, Olo (grinding stone), kpekpeye, Esu, Olokpa..... and countless more.... in fact, ethnolinguists have estimated that at least 14%-16% of the modern Edo (Benin) language are borrowings from Yoruba.

This is just a very silly thread... It is like asking why Eni or Okan means one in Yoruba or why Enu means mouth in Yoruba or why Ada means machete in Yoruba and Obe means Knife.
How can you be asking 'why' a word means something in a language it is native to? I don't get it. It just is.

But I thought Abia is God's own state which Coronavirus "can never enter" because it is the only state mentioned in the Bible....
All these our educated illiterate politicians.

Corruption has absolutely permeated every sector of the Nigerian society.

It is sad.

Ayegba Abdullahi was someone I used to think had sense before.
He has proven strongly otherwise. Igala in Ogun and Osun.

Nowenuse:


In Kwara south, Igbolo & Igbomina people are 50-50! While Ekiti people (Ekiti & Oke-oro) are entirely Christians. Do the mathematics for yourself and see.

Christians slightly outnumber Muslims in Kwara south because of the Ekiti speaking people who are entirely Christians.

Don't mind them. Among Yoruba Kwarans, there are Christians in Kwara as far north as Shaare and Jebba in the North. Plenty Nupe and Baruba Christians too, but some people here would rather make us believe there is no single christian in Kwara.
It's not even Nupe or Baruba people that have this mentality but those slaves who sit down in Ilorin planning rubbish.

MelesZenawi:
Firstly punch is not a newspaper but a propaganda machine full of lies.

As reported by Vanguard

Coronavirus: Fresh facts emerge on Anambra’s index case

FRESH facts have emerged that the COVID-19 index case discovered in Anambra State on Friday actually visited the two major cities of Awka and Onitsha before traveling to his home town, Adazi in Anaocha local government area and was admitted at St Joseph’s Hospital in the town.

“The case was first treated as a mild malaria unknowingly at Regina-Caeli Hospital, Awka. He left and later traveled to Onitsha, before returning to Adazi-Nnukwu hospital where it was finally suspected to be Covic-19, after exhibiting the symptoms. “Result came in and it was positive,” Sunday Vanguard was told yesterday.

Our source could not confirm if the index case visited any hospital in Onitsha, or other places he visited in the city before returning to Adazi.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/04/coronavirus-fresh-facts-emerge-on-anambras-index-case/?fbclid=IwAR0Bffxr9x5R584q35N1lCF-lVnkugITIUQ0M1_reDBZITISkCq9TFSM1PU

So Vanguard which according to you are the real newspapers are the ones calling COVID-19 Covic-19?

darfay:


But Yorubas in lagos are selling their lands to foreigners soon to be Left with nothing. I wonder the phantom uncles and aunties in ekiti you keep referring to

Same way the same Yorubas have taken over all the oil companies and establishments in your state.... All na benefits of One Najeriya. Abi no be so?

These ones are just focusing their attention in the wrong places.. Shooking mouth into something that isn't their business just to trend. Awon charge and bail audio lawyers.

Same way Nigeria's obtuse judiciary wanted to convict Naira marley who obviously had no role in the organizing of the mini house party. They later realised how wrong ther were and withdrew.

See the press in front of the court house where Funke and her husband's hearing was carried out.

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Just moments after convicting a couple for "breaking the rules of the quarantine"....Selective justice oshi.

darfay:


Tribalist chai, the progenitor of Yoruba race is a benin ex convict. Continue with your minority shaming here, while your brothers in Lagos and ogun have sold all their lands to the great Igbo race

lol co.ck sucking will not save you. You even had repeat street talk and cower under igbos to take a meaningless jab at Yorubas. As long as Nigeria remains one an Igbo man is free to live in Lagos either as a tenant or a land owner, same way an Isoko like you is free to lease a farmland for manual labour in Ore or crush palm kernels for people in Ekiti.
Binis and other Edos do not natively call melon Egusi but Ikpogi. You FAIL (as usual).

darfay:


Minority shaming as usual, Yeribanzaz are hardcore tribalist walahi even between yourselves. When Yoruba Christians are oppressing Yoruba Muslims daily in ekiti and ondo, why won't you find it easy to opress minority tribes and drag soup with them
Go on, attack minorities as usual

Yes we are tribalist.
Done? Face your front abeg. Sobo man... all your uncles and cousins are in okitipupa busy picking palm fruits and cultivating peoples' farms, and you are here abusing your benefactors.
I don't have your time this hot afternoon.

darfay:


Typical Yoruba man. Coming to drag soup with minority tribes.

Owo mi da tribe.

lol, who dey follow you drag anything?
You this guy from a two local government tribe. Yorubas on a typical day can't see you anywhere even after looking round.
Back to topic.

darfay:


Nawa o.
Minority shaming? How demeaning?
You Started attacking minority tribes because I only stated that egusi belongs to the bini people and igbos had a better claim

No, I attacked you BECAUSE rather than contributing meaningfully to the topic at hand, you came cruising into the thread sucking dick and insulting at the same time.

What do the Edos, Urhobos, Isokos, Ishans and all the other minorities in that region call Egusi, if not Ikpogiri.
Yorubas call melon seeds Egusi and nothing else.

darfay:


Egusi is Benin, not Yoruba!!!!
You guys are terrible cooks?
Where in Yoruba Land have you historically grown egusi?
Igbos have a better claim than you?
But it's still benin

Tell us what YOUR OWN TRIBE ISOKO has contributed to Nigerian cuisine instead of your unnecessary hating and bickering.
All these minorities and their low self esteem ehn?! It stinks to the high heavens.

Jollof rice - General
Moi-moi (mai-mai, moin-moin) also called Olele or Oole - Yoruba
Egusi soup (Obe Egusi)- Yoruba
Akara - Yoruba

Other shared foods and(or) snacks.
Booli - Yoruba
Guguru & Epa - Yoruba
Suya - Hausa
Dodo - Yoruba
Pepper soup - Dunno (Anyone who knows?)
Puffpuff/chinchin/Buns - General
Garri - Only God knows. Na thisone dey hard me pass.
Pekere (fried plantain chips) - Yoruba
Zobo - Hausa
Eko/Agidi - Yoruba and Igbo
Akamu/Ogi/Koko - Likely General.
Kunu - Hausa
Kulu-Kuli - Yoruba/Nupe/Hausa
Palm sap (wine) - Common drink in the south and center.

I don't know if these ones are general or regional. Or regional transitioning into General.
Kokoro - Yoruba
Abacha - Igbo
Donkwa - Hausa
Aadun - Yoruba
Alewa - Hausa
Baba dudu/Chesbin Mallam/Alagbon - Yoruba/Hausa
Ube - Likely Igbo/Eastern NNigeria.
Asun - Yoruba
Nkwobi - Igbo
Ukwa - Igbo

Apparently all Nigerian major groups have contributed substantially to our general cuisines.

Jetleeeee


One of those threads.

Rat laden with infectious viruses.

MelesZenawi:


You guys should stop this hate by killing people from other zones.

More like a secret meeting in Western army

mtcheew.. get a life.
Nigerian soldiers from every region are GENERALLY Unprofessional and are always trigger happy, but we all know what side the major atrocities come from. Keep shouting Yoruba upandan like a starved baboon.

MelesZenawi:


Investigation by our correspondent however, revealed that Ajayi hails from Imeri in Ondo State.

Ok he is from Ondo state...so what.
You keep repeating that he is "that and that" as if that will put some money in your pocket.

MelesZenawi:

Investigation by our correspondent however, revealed that Ajayi hails from Imeri in Ondo State.

Pele mr Investigator.

Na al these kind bigoted topics especially against Yoruba dey ginger your swagger. Ndo.

If you all check well now, you will see that the so called Ilekura Samson Ajayi is from Edo state.

Most likely Edo North area.

All the help we can get is welcome.

If Egungun reach express now, how many Nigerian health workers would stay?
The other day, an entire staff of a big Lagos hospice ran faster than Usain Bolt at the sight of some Egyptians coming in for a check.

senatordave1:

Those ebiras are not in kogi central ?

They aren't. Only the Ebira Tao are in kogi central.

senatordave1:

What if you add the ones you minused

Then they might become like 75-80% Muslim.
the major population centre of Ebiras is Kogi central.

Naajjii:

Where did you get your 30%?

My personal observation of Ebiras tao (Minus the Ebira Koto and Opanda)

Nowenuse:


I usually classify most Nigerian tribes as either Christian or muslim cos most of these traditionalist either attend churches or mosques. They identify with one religion, even though they may not take it serious.

Igalas of today are clearly like 60-65% Christians.

It is the other way round.

Igalas are 60-65% Muslim and around 40% Xtian.

Naajjii:

Ha ha Igbo man, this is how you keep spreading lies , where did you get all you just stated, imagine Ebira people that christians are not even visible you stated that outside Okene then everywhere is christians. This is the reason why i dont always enagage you with facts ,that is why i always call you out as an impostor hiding under middlebelt, just come out fully with your igbo man identity then i will engage you better but as long as you hide to create mischief i will always call you out.
In Nigeria its obvious those crying of Marginalization everyday, between CAN AND NSCIA who do you see crying of Islamisation. Have you ever seen any muslim cried of Christianisation in this Country? That sums up your minority status in Nigeria. Minority will always cry and keep crying.

Oga Ebira christians are very visible.

I was under that same impression before that Ebira christians were a tiny minority, now I know better.

Ebira christians are at least 30%