Wait o, was she supposed to leave her Room before FULL RECOVERY?
She said she does not live alone!

Revolva:


Itsekiri itself are from igala who later migrated to present day warri in delta state

Itsekiri are not related to Yoruba at all oo Yoruba met an igala warrir called zekeli in warri there in D ancient times and over threw him and married his daughters that was how the itsekiri nation was formed

Later on then came D Benin people who invaded there and took the rulership seat leaving the itsekiri of mixed Yoruba and igala heritage.
Till date an average itsekiri man like counting himself to the ruling clan of the Benin because of the oil money in delta state they wanna have a cut in

And they don't care of their far ancestry , which is bad not all itsekiri are from benin it's just the ruling clan of the kingdom ...
The language of itsekiri and igala are similar in many words

Stop lying through your nose.
Is there Z in the Yoruboid languages?
How can an Igala warrior be named "Zekeli" Igalas will call that 'Jekeli', that name is actually from the Islamic name Zakari.

Itsekiri and yoruba are siblings while Igalas are like the cousin who has all sort of foreign influences in them like Jukun.
There are very close semblances between Yoruba and Itsekiri names and traditional religions for example, while Igala names can sometimes look totally strange to Yoruba(or Itsekiri). Your story sounds so cooked up. WHich of the Yoruba groups met the Zekeli man in warri?

You are even contradicting yourself. First you say Itsekiris are not related to Yorubas, but you also say Yorubas met an Igala warrior in warri area overthrew him and married his children who became itsekiri.

Barbilius:
You are a prophet bro.

I know how to project trends like a financial markets analyst.
Yet another SW state will still overtake Imo.

Nowenuse:


Lol . Me saying that you should use less pins does not mean that you should completely measure bushes!
If you must use more pins, you should at least snap multiple pictures showing the various extents of your measurements. That was why I insisted that you measure Suleja, Karu, Abuja Municipal, Bwari, Gwagwalada & Kuje separately. You added too many green areas to your measurement of Ibadan. And it is very obvious from your pictures.

Well, I might have measured some bushes, BUT I only followed your exact style which you are basing your facts on. Besides, you added too much green and brown in your Abuja measurements.Ibadan's green only looks more obvious than the green and brown of Abja because Abuja is savannah and Ibadan is tropical high forest and tall tree savanna type vegetation. If I increase the contrast and saturation of your Abuja measurements and increase the green composition of the RGB, you would see how much outside the city limits some of your measurements are.

We cannot conclude if Ibadan is bigger than Abuja until I see your measurements of the different urban areas that make up Abuja.

Also, I don't consider Gwagwalada to be Abuja, although it is is a town in the FCT. I understand that you think otherwise, but no problem. Infact I was only adding Suleja from my initial measurements for the sake of argument. Suleja isn't Abuja either. Suleja is completely different from Abuja and does not have any vibe in common with Abuja. It felt like a completely separate and independent town the time I was there unlike Karu that had strong Abuja vibes. If the government was compiling a list of largest cities and towns in Nigeria, trust me when I tell you that Suleja will not be included in Abuja nor even 'Abuja urban area' for that matter.

Do your own measurements and let's compare them with mine. Cos as it's stands, mine looks more accurate & neat since I separated the urban areas from each other, unlike yours where you joined everything from Niger state to Nasarawa state into a chaotic mess.

Lol, yours does not look more accurate than mine. I have explained it to you earlier above ^^ how Geography works. What YOU on the other hand are doing is maximizing land area for different areas during measurement and then totalling them together to gain a land area advantage.

Your measurement of Ibadan is 700km² since you included most of the outskirt suburbs which I did not include in my measurement of Ibadan.

Yes my measurements of Ibadan was 702 km² for Ibadan at close marking, and 550km² for Abuja + adjoining towns at that same criteria. When I used the same method as you (distant marking) Ibadan remained significantly larger at over 1,000km². If you want me to measure the Abuja area again separately then add them together, I might do that at some later time.

My friend's measurement of Abuja is 850km² and he did not include 2 suburbs of Karu (Karshi & Uke), 1 suburb of Bwari (Gwaram), the 4 suburbs in between Gwagwalada & Zuba, the whole of Kuje town and other suburbs in between Kuje & Gwagwalada and in between Madalla & Kuje & Municipal (like Gwaska, Toge, Sauka e.t.c).

Your friend's measurements of Abuja is wrong. I already called it "Wuru wuru to the answer" earlier. And once again, Gwagwalada is not Abuja. Everyone has been telling you this right from that original thread into this newer one. People even told you that his measurements were not consistent that he zoomed out to measure some cities and measured some others at closer resolution.

9jaDoomCountry:




Stealing is bad though but better than skull mining in all ramifications

I hear you.

Eeeewoooo! Our blothers at it again oo!!!

Una steal 7 cars for Ogun state carry am all the way go Anambra go sell... Hian!
My developer brothers, is that how to develop a place?
And here I was thinking you people were beginning to repent small small this year.

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JESUS!!

Actually, since you prefer less pins and actually like to see more distance between pegged points, Here is Ibadan measured in the same way you have done. And it is 1,032 km2 which is substantially larger than my previous more accurate measure. This method you prefer is highly inaccurate and can lead to errors of oversight.

[img]http:///65535/49711360126_ab2dd03176_b.jpg[/img]

Still larger than Abuja plus Gwagwalanda and all those other places at 704km2. You can't expect to measure ABJ like that and compare it to a carefully measured outline of ibadan that actually follows the accuracy rules of Geography, it wouldn't be scientific.

Nowenuse:


This below was my measurement of 4 major suburban areas that make up Abuja metro. It is far more precise than yours where you joined so many disjointed urban areas with too many pins that one cannot even see the lines between the pins, and mind you Karshi was not included in my measurement of Karu Urban. Karshi is just a stonethrow from Orozo. Uke was not also included and Uke is the last suburb of Karu immediately after Masaka.
Between Uke & Keffi is 20km² and you have 4 small towns in between Uke & Keffi. Uke to Keffi on that express is like 10 mins. Keffi will merge into Karu in the next 5 years.

So you can see that Gwagwalada, Bwari & Kuje combined are about 75km².
Mind you, I was just going through these measurements and I could also see that Gwaram (a suburb of Bwari was not added). Gwaska (a suburb in between Abuja Municipal & Madalla) was not added to either sides. And if we are now including Gwagwalada, what about the 4 communities in between Gwagwalada & Madalla and those between Gwagwalada & Kuje? I never added any of these.

The point is that, just the same way many places were not added to Ibadan in my measurement, many places as well were not added to Abuja.

Anyway, When you have the time. I'd like to see you divide the measurements of the 6 major towns/urban areas that make up Abuja metro, which are Karu urban, Bwari, Gwagwalada, Kuje, Suleja urban & Abuja Municipal.

I repeat, Ibadan can never be larger than Abuja metro. Ibadan only has the advantage of being one circular urban area, unlike Abuja that has 2 urban areas (Suleja & Karu) developing far into Niger & Nasarawa states along the roads to Keffi & Minna.

If you were verse in Geography, you would know that the more the pins, the more precise the measurement. That is why those days in geography class, it is advisable to use more grids and squares that less ones when measuring the area of a map or when transferring one map to another clean sheet because the smaller grids ensure greater accuracy. What you have done is what I call "wuru wuru to the answer", If I measure Ibadan or any other city the same why, I would arrive at an even greater figures.

Even in the the coastline measurement paradox, The use of more pins over a certain area ensures a better measurement of the actual reality instead of using broader stretches of lines at a time like you are doing.

[img]http:///65535/49711654567_d5195a031f_z.jpg[/img]

And even with your rough measurements and inclusion of controversial settlements like Gwagwalada into "Abuja", the entire area has only just equalled my intricate measurement of Ibadan. Do you want me to give you a jagged version of Ibadan's land area?
Give it up. Ibadan is clearly larger than Abuja, wether it is Abuja proper or Abuja plus allies.

If Aba and Port Harcourt are not as intertwined as you say, then how is Abuja and Gwagwalada considered intertwined. What is your defination of an interlinked urban area?
The volume of people who move between PH/Obigbo/Aba each day is far greater than that which moves between Gwagwalada or Suleja and Abuja. Yet one is measured together but the other is not?

The only reason your criteria is inconsistent is because poth PH and Aba are popular, but you want to subsume Gwagwa or Suleja under the name "Abuja" because they haven't made a name for themselves yet as cities? That is wrong sir.

Nowenuse:


1) Nice efforts, but you must know that you cannot measure Abuja municipal, Suleja & Karu as one urban area in the same manner with which you measure Ibadan.
This is due to the disjointed nature of the different urban areas and towns that make up Abuja.
Same way you cannot measure Lagos as one urban area, hence the reason we split the measurements. You can never get the proper measurement of an urban agglomeration by measuring it together.

2) Abuja metro should even be higher than the measurement we gave it because we did not include Kuje town and the small towns on your way to Gwagwalada from Zuba.
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It does not matter how you measure the different towns and cities within an urban agglomeration, you will always come up with the same results, either you measure them individually and then add them up or you measure them all at once (if you have the time, consistency and patience to do so) it is maths, it can't be cheated. The map is there nau, we shouldn't even be arguing you can measure it yourself and post what you arrive at here. Infact, it took me about 30 minutes plus to carefully outline Abuja and all the outlying surrounding towns, if I didn't have the ample time on my hands due to the present coronavirus situation + weekend, I would have preferred to do them individually and them add them together like your friend did because If I (or anyone measuring measuring) wasn't being careful about it, I/they would run the risk of adding a lot of uninhabited/non built up areas to Abuja due to how disconnected the entire area is (like you rightfully said)

2: Kuje town if you insist is only about 22kmSq. All those areas you mention can't not be more than 50kmSq put together, and that's pushing it. You are forgetting that the difference between Ibadan and Abuja in my measurements was more than 130 good Kms Squared.
And if are adding all those areas like Kuje to Abuja, then I better start adding Idi Ayunre, Badeku, Igbonna even Iwo, Ikire to Ibadan because that is exactly what it would mean.

Ibadan is clearly larger than Abuja but for whatever reason, you just don't want to accept. Notice that you keep pushing the limits of what is within Abuja to record distances but still fall short in the end. Small thing now, you will ask us to take the measurement of Abuja down to Keffi.

Nowenuse:


Ikorodu & Lekki are part of Lagos Metropolitan area/ Greater Lagos urban area. Likewise, Ota & Ibafo in Lagos...

People live in Suleja & Karu and work in Abuja Municipal. Can people live in Abeokuta and work in Lagos? Abeokuta is still too far and disjointed from Lagos for it to be considered part of Lagos metro.

Of course Ibadan is bigger than Kano, we did the measurements and thrashed the issue on a previous thread. I'm sure u were there.

https://www.nairaland.com/5728975/25-largest-cities-urban-areas

Ibadan is bigger than Abuja Municipal. But Abuja is bigger if you add the surrounding Urban areas that it has merged with.

Nowe, living somewhere and working in a larger urban area is not the definition of city limits. Maybe you might want to call that a CMA or a Larger common commuter area. There are people who live in far off towns in England and commute everyday to central london for work because the price of rent in the London city area is off the charts. Like seriously people in towns as close to London as Watford can't even say they live in London talk more people in places like Luton who drive to and from London everyday.

When Lagos-Abeokuta-Ibadan rai becomes a reality and people start railing from Abeokuta to Lagos for work, will Abeokuta suddenly become part of Lagos?
Ibadan as it turns out is larger than both Kano and all of Abuja urban area.

So in Nigeria, the list should go like:

* Lagos Metro
* Ibadan
* Abuja metro
* Kano.
In that order.

Your friend is also overestimating Kaduna, Jos and some other places. For example... Akure looks larger than Owerri to me but your friend's measurement is saying otherwise. If I do the measurements, I would turn out to be right, and your friend wrong.

Nowenuse:


It is very clear that you did not see this thread where most top urban areas of Nigeria were measured.
Go through this thread below and digest it very well, then come back.

https://www.nairaland.com/5728975/25-largest-cities-urban-areas

Karu is now far bigger than you think it is.
It also has a very congested population.

Zuba & Madalla developed from Abuja and merged into Suleja... Suleja merged into Diko and the combined urban area km² of this Zuba-Madalla-Suleja-Diko urban area is about 113km², the same size with Asaba city and bigger than Calabar city.

Karu Urban which is about 188km² is the 5th largest urban area in the north after Abuja, Kano, Kaduna & Jos..... On it's own, it is bigger than Maiduguri, Zaria, Bauchi, Sokoto e.t.c and it is now almost merging with Keffi.
Ado or Uke to Keffi is like 10 mins drive.

Look at the map below and see how Karu Urban is developing. And remember that Karu Urban is the fastest growing Urban area in Africa, at 40% per annum. Almost 10x faster than Lagos.

Your friend tried, but when you go into the fineprint of his measurements for example, one would discover that his measurements for all urban areas were not consistent.
For example, he measured the continuous Ibadan urban sprawl to be 562km², however I did my measurements and went into the details only to discover that the city is in fact 700km² or so which is about 140 SqKm more than what your paddy measured. You will observe that I have used much more pegged points than he has to carefully outline the city limits:

[img]http:///65535/49707695957_ba28353873_b.jpg[/img]

On to Abuja.
First, Gwagwalada can not be added to Abuja, that is a stretch, seriously Gwagwalada to Abuja CBD is about 47Kms or so as the crow flies, and even more distant by road (56km), in that same distance you would have covered central Akure to central Ado Ekiti or Ibadan to Oyo town , or Port Harcourt to Aba!. That both are in the same FCT does not automatically translate to them being the same.

.. Suleja too to an extent, but the fact that there is a string of settlements between Abuja municipal and Suleja township, I would add Suleja to the Abuja measurement for the sake of argument... I have measure the entire Abuja conurbation from Suleja area in Niger state deep into Nasarawa state, and at the end of it all, it comes to 550km²:, which is waay less than the 850km² your German Igbo friend is allocating to that urban area. I don't know how he did his own measurements.

[img]http:///65535/49707580026_17b46d8dbb_h.jpg[/img]

As it turns out, Ibadan is still over 150 km² larger than Abuja +Suleja+ Lugbe +Karu and all those other towns that can be considered a part of Abuja metro (within the scope of fair reasoning)

If I measure Lagos, It would be at least 1,500SqKm.. you just have to forget about Lagos. Your friend didn't even Add: Magboro, Loburo, Atan Otta, Owode Otta to Lagos. Neither did he measure all of Ikorodu.
Also, his Lekki measurement is stopping waaaay short of the actual extent of Lekki, so he is really underestimating the Lagos urban area, while he is adding Bwari and Gwagwalada! too Abuja or Ibusa to Asaba, a place that is neither considered the same town nor that much intertwined with Asaba in terms of urban sprawl.

As for Kano, it is already an established fact that ibadan is larger.

EcoBrick:


I have observed this too, I mean the slow down of growth in Abuja in the past 10 years or so. Rather it is densely populated ghettos that are increasingly springing up in the outskirt areas lately. Abuja experienced a lot of infrastructural growth during the Oil-Boom years when oil money really flowed. The Executive and Legislature arms really allocated a lot of funds for its infrastructural development, but that has all changed since oil proceeds slowed down. Abuja's growth will always be tied to Nigeria's federal revenues and budgets. If the economy is performing well and Nigeria's Oil proceeds are high, Abuja will witness infrastructural growth, but if it doesn't, it won't because it is competing for resources with other federal units. I noticed it's IGR has been picking up though, but it's still not yet up to Rivers and Ogun state's though, not to talk of Lagos'. Even Kano is embarking on more ambitious infrastructural projects than Abuja these days.

People will move more to places where they can legitimately hustle than one propped up by the national economy.
If Abuja wants to legitimately compete with Lagos into the far future, it would have to develop an Industrial base, a real organic city structure (not just a city center governmental facade surrounded by shanties and middle class living areas) and then offer residents a diversity of lifestyle choices like Lagos. But I am not sure if that will happen being that it does not tally with Abuja's initial purpose since it is meant to be a planned and serene/orderly city.

Lagos's own problem stems mostly from the general state of transport infrastructure leading to massive bottlenecks such as endless holdups. It should take more to the marine segment while also expanding existing terrestrial road structures including building new ones and increasing linkability between areas by offering more route choices.
It should also try to decentralize governing structure. Let all those LCDA's start operating like independent mini cities. No reason why Lekki should be fundamentally attached to Lagos when it can be its own independent City of Lekki. It will soon have a fully operational Seaport, there are universities there such as the Pan Atlantic University, several industrial complexes, leisure spots, And might soon have an airport!

That is how it usually works in the Western world. Once a suburb gets too big and developed, it becomes an independent incorporated city.

Yes Abuja urban area grew so fast initially, the reason being it was a newly emerging city as a lot of things were being moved away from Lagos and transplanted into Abuja. It happens with every new urban center experiencing a growth spurt. But it will all naturally slow down eventually and grow at a rate just slightly higher than other major urban areas of the country (Bar Lagos and maybe PH and some other new place where something big happens) but nothing as phenomenal as before. In fact it has already slowed. The greatest period of growth of Abuja was between 1995 and 2010. It has slowed somewhat since this er although still growing fast, it will eventually level out.
This is exactly the pattern that Brasilia the new capital city of Brazil followed.

As we speak Lagos is back among the Global top10 so it does not look like Abuja would catch up anytime soon, if ever.

[img]http:///65535/49704752931_0600eb9d92_z.jpg[/img]

http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/urban_growth1.html

Karu that is like Ibafo while Kubwa and Madalla together are like Badagry agglo.
Those are the Eastern and Western limits of Abuja proper anything further would be pushing it, and they won't be able to catapult the Abuja agglomeration to topple Lagos. Also Lagos has the coastal, industrial and "Buzz capital" advantage and the ability to form a conurbation with larger surrounding settlements. The closest large town to Abuja is Minna in Niger state, which is even closer than Kaduna. Besides, There are not than much empty green spaces within Lagos except in areas criss-crossed by water which can not be built over, whereas the Abuja area is just too disjointed to form a single continuous urban area. I think because of the undulating terrain.

ZKOSOSO:

Karu area includes Karshi orozo, jikwoyi, Karu site, nyanya, mararaba, new karu, masaka, goshen, Aso, gbagalape,...etc

All join together .

How can Karu be up to 2 million people? lol
Ilorin is faar bigger than Karu. Heck, it isn't even nearly as large as the Osogbo urban area

Nope.
Abuja is growing into Nassarawa and might probably extend to parts of niger in the future.

Lagos is growing into Ogun... Ikorodu and Lekki are exploding.

Besides, some of these areas you are adding to "Auja agglomeration" is a stretch..... too disjointed and far away to be part of Abuja metro. They are their own towns/metros.
lol if you are counting Suleja as part of Abuja metro, then Abeokuta will become part of Lagos metro. Is Abuja even bigger than Ibadan? Mind you, Ibadan is bigger than Kano, forget the nonsense Naija stats that has been misinforming everybody than Kano is #2 and larger than Ibadan at #3...

Blame shifting at its finest. As at the 13th of March, germany had already recorded 3,062 cases of COVID-19.
Is it that Nigerian leaders generally lack common sense or what?

From Omo Atiku to Abba Kyari.... who is next from the elite class.
Honestly, our leaders are clueless, Imagine people travelling to and coming back from countries in Western Europe right in the middle of March and not self isolating on return, exposing hundreds and potentially thousands of people to grave health consequences by their despicable attitudes.

joepepsy:
If you were an igbo I would have admitted to the fact inferior complex is part of some of them, now you are a yoruba, it will be ok to say nigeria have problem

rather than quoting me with a rubbish reply, simply tell me if what i have said is wrong.

darfay:


I'm still looking for your own name there

And you are going to eat my name when you see it on the list?
Don't go and look for something to do. Urhobo wayo.

Yoruba Gbayi.
Omoluabis 4r show.

When talking about sheer Human resources and brain power, give it to the West, although other regions are trying too, especially East.. infact, the south in general and some parts of MB.
Normally, if things were the way they should be, Southern Nigeria would be the undisputed light of the entire black race world over. Coronavirus jam our purposeless and wicked leaders.

Some tems need some updating, you need to collaborate with versed Yoruba linguists from Unilag, Lasu, UI , OAU or Unilorin.

Cheese in Yoruba is Warankasi.
Orange - Orombo (or Osan)
Okra - ila
Horse (Esin - prncd Eshin)

lx3as:



When you read Bini revisionists distorted palm wine shop's stories, there is nothing for one to do than to laugh. One thing these liers fail to know is that intelligence is not hidden. There is difference between Old Igodomigodo and present Bini. The Igodomigodo started as groups of people from Eastern Ondo state, offshoot of Nupe, Noks, and immigrants from the North Eastern Africa. They moved southward to occupy land being left by the Oru people, who had moved toward the Sea. There were more influx of people from West and North West of their newly settled land. They were being ruled by people referred to as 'Sky gods,' the ogisos. The kingdom was never organized until the last Ogisos.

Due to movement of people from Older and larger kingdom of Ìfẹ, Ọwọ, etc, a relationship developed between Ìfẹ and Igodomigodo. I don't need to go into how Oranmiyan gave birth to the present Bini royalty. A lot of people followed him to Bini and decided to settled and helped shape the Kingdom. During Oba periods, Bini became great, more organized and Yorubas' gods, deities, culture were brought in: Umọlẹ from Ekiti, Ayelala from Ìlájé, Olokun from Yorubas (Ijebus, Ikales, Ìlájes) that already settled Ode Itsekiri and Iwerre before Ginuwa arrived and was welcome as their Oba being great grandchild to Oranmiyan. It is foolhardy for someone to be saying Olokun originated from Bini.

There is no doubt there are lots of relationship and intermixing between Yorubas and Binis, notwithstanding there are also lots of egos; one of these was unhappiness of Oba of Bini not being among first two Obas in the Western region. His claim was that he was the first child of Oranmiyan who later gave birth to Alaafin and recent rulers in Ìfẹ.

It is also very funny and stupid when some revisionists claim Bini owns Ekiti, Ondo and Lagos. First, the Eastern and South Eastern Yorubas (who were not being called Yorubas initially and some even refused until British arrival, although they always see themselves as one people from the Source), viewed Bini as one of them (bounded by the royal family and earlier migrated families to Bini Kingdom). Secondly, Bini is not on the shore of the Atlantic but Itsekiris and Ìlájes took Prince Ado to Lagos. During the great period of the empire, Bini also did what Ibadan later did by trying to bring the Eastern Yorubas under their influence in alliance with some Yoruba kingdoms that saw Oba of Bini as one of their own. Can will now say because Ibadan, that imposed "Ajeles" on many other Yoruba territories and kingdoms now make everyone in these places Ibadan people and their lands, Ibadanland?

At present, Yorubas are, at least, in 8 states with hundreds of LGAs and some would still be showing their ignorance by saying Yorubas are from 7 Bini LGA, in which Yorubas even made up large part of their inhabitants. 'Bini no dey give birth ni?

To me Edo or Bini is dispensable/inessential to Yorubas except those that want to associate with the Yorubas, for instance the 'Olumolẹs, etc. I have never witnessed visible discriminations between Yorubas and Edos as these revisionists always posit. Edos feel at home in the west just as Yorubas feel at home in Edo and old mid-west. Nobody is trying to force Edo into Yoruba. Itsekiris that are closer are not even forced not to talk about several kingdoms and lands that claim Ìfẹ Source in Delta, Edo, West Africa, etc. are not being forced into Yoruba. Igodomigodo people are not Yorubas, although some would still say, few elements among them were from ancient Akoko area. Yorubas are one of the largest groups in Africa with one of the richest culture, Bini is not a rival at all; this irrelevant ego made it so easy for Biafra soldiers being led by Banjo to conquer mid-west in few days. You Igodomigodo revisionists should look toward Afemai, Ebiras, Nupes, Idomas, etc for rivals not Yorubas who are not emotional or care about you, what you think or do.

Just wanted to highlight this because a particular Benin workmate of mine whose name I won't mention still said at work TODAY that benins came "from Yoruba", in his exact words: "Bini people na Yoruba people na, abeg wetin be difference sef"

It was I the Yoruba that was even telling the Benin man that Benins didn't come from Yoruba although a large portion of the population might have in the past. I have never experienced Benin-Yoruba attrition in real life. Yes there might be arguments about Obas and Oduduwa and What not, but that's it. The ambience between both groups is verrry cordial. Inter-marriages btw both are not even really seen as inter marriage.

Add Bassa Nge to the Nupe cluster at #6... so that is also half of Bassa LGA.
Jukuns are overcounted, they do not constitute a majority in that many LGAs.

Try and se the word 'cluster' when describing multiple distinct but related ethnic groups, so that people know you are talking f a grouping which might include even more members that may or may not be listed.

i.e The "Efik-Ibibio-Oron-Annang" cluster
The "Jukun and related peoples cluster"
The "Afenmai people cluster"

Overall, good job and I salute the hours of research you must have put into this, because I can actually relate.

This is how they exiled their Emirs to lands in the middle belt in the past and the exiled ones ended up creating little fiefdoms for themselves by forcefully taking away the lands that belonged to the original tribes of those places.
From their ancestral home in Fuuta Toro Senegal, to Sokoto to Kano city and now to Nassarawa... These invaders basically see middle belt states as their backwater provinces. Since when does Kano state have 'royal boys quarters' in Nasarawa which is a completely independent and autonomous state entity under the Nigerian constitution just like Kano? why wasn't he exiled to Katsina or Gwandu? These Northerners are still reasoning like we are in the age of the Sokoto terrorist jihad.

nlPoster:
Are you Yoruba who would like to know more about other parts of Yorubaland you're not familiar with?

Let's have a meet and greet.

I would like to know more about the Egbado areas.
Their history is very obscure compared to other parts of Yorubaland.

RedboneSmith:


Thanks.

So which village/Town/City is urs on the list.

RedboneSmith:
Please, the communities that bear the name "Ute" (I think they're in Ondo State.) What is their origin?

Yes, Ute or Ute ilogi is a small village in Osse local government.
They migrated from Imeri town, Their progenitor is Akensi. Imeri was formerly in Edo state but was transferred to Ondo when the people of the town clamored for that, since they claim the state was wrong (They being Yoruba and not Edo)

In exchange for the moving of Yoruba speaking Imeri to Ondo from Edo, Sobe was moved to Edo from Ondo.