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Family / Re: Who Should Die First? Husband Or Wife. by seyi360(m): 8:46pm On Sep 30, 2020
Ishilove:
I didn't bother reading the body because the title put me off. What a satanic question.

Typical of a Lilly livered, chicken hearted woman. This is a question MCs joke with at wedding engagements.

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Family / Re: Who Should Die First? Husband Or Wife. by seyi360(m): 7:52pm On Sep 30, 2020
MightySparrow:
Mostly men die before men because of frustration at homefront. No. 3 is most relevant, check your environment, there are more landladies than landlords. 80% of the men are gone 20 years before their wives who are less than 10 years younger.

Number 2 seems to be the case with most of the deaths recorded.
Family / Who Should Die First? Husband Or Wife. by seyi360(m): 6:41pm On Sep 30, 2020
WHO SHOULD DIE FIRST?

Its glaring for all and sundry that more husbands die before their wives. In fact, its naturally expected that the husband should bite the dust of death before his wife . And its beginning to look like one of those laws of nature. People are quick to label as "strange" when it's the wife that passes on ahead of the husband . I really don't know which side of the divide is more appropriate.

Below are some reasons I think is responsible for this

(1) Men marry younger women -

From time immemorial, a man preferred to marry a much younger woman. Even now, the trend is still generally considered as the natural order. Age is considered vital when the subject of submission is raised, even more within the context of marriage. It is said that a woman is more likely to submit to a husband older than her. Since the older is expected to die before the younger, this implies that the husband should anticipate death before his wife.

(2) Men risk their lives to feed the family -

The primary responsibility of the husband is to cater for his family's welfare. In the process of looking for bread, he is exposed to numerous hazards. Have you noticed that women are hardly the targets of assassins, men are mostly the victims. These are some of the hazards men face while transacting high profile businesses and negotiations. A man's life is not exactly far from death. Though women also face a lot of risk today as breadwinners.

(3) Some women don't take care of their husbands -

When a woman denies her husband a good and balanced meal, suffocates him by her unending nagging , disrespects the man and gives him no real reason to be happy, she's gradually pushing her husband to the grave

(4) Some women deliberately kill their husbands-

A man's wife is in the best position to kill him. Disputes over property allocation via a will, adultery and other domestic issues may prompt a wife to decide to terminate her husband's life.
I pray that you will not marry a killer wife. And for the married, may your wife not develop killing tendencies.

By and large, death is inevitable for the husband, wife and the children who will grow to become husbands and wives in the future.
Of more importance than death is what happens to the deceased and bereaved after death, because honestly, anyone can kick the bucket first.
Education / Re: IMSU Lecturers, Esogbuonye Agomuo & Victor Obinna Njoku In Sex Scandal by seyi360(m): 6:45pm On Sep 10, 2020
To all you critics spilling trash like you're the most sanctimonious holier than thou Nigerian. You better watch it and pray that God will deliver you from the trap of your third leg. You think it's easy to resist sexual temptations.
Sex remains the most potent tool in devil's arsenal to finish a man. It takes the grace of God to escape.
To the 2 lecturers , it's obviously too late now. The horse has bolted, closing the stable door is of no use.
Wasted career, avalanche of disgrace brought on themselves and their families. I hope young men learn from this and control the insatiable appetite for sex.
There is something better than sex, it's called PEACE.

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Politics / Re: Gabriel Suswam Condemns Terwase Killing, Calls For Judicial Inquiry by seyi360(m): 7:49am On Sep 10, 2020
ClassicMG:
In as much as I don't support extra judicial killing. I think the political leaders of benue are not been sincere with the whole thing.. he probably might be their machinery, going by how they are sympathetic to someone who according to them has killed so many people

You are uncivilized
Religion / Re: Why Is Daddy Freeze Now Scared Of Threats by seyi360(m): 10:41am On Sep 09, 2020
There is constructive and destructive criticism. What Freeze is doing is destructive. He is obviously bitter that the church is doing exploits.
And you cannot rise by pulling the entire Nigerian church down.
Freeze needs a lesson on how to mind his own business.
The church will certainly outlive him
Tithing will outlive him
Can you imagine him referring to Baba Oyedepo as " that bald man at Ota"
He is rude, uncultured, mannerless, bitter and he won't last . I dare him to insult Pastors again.
Imagine someone who has never led a 5 member church opening his mouth to insult champions and giants of faith who grew their ministries from point 0 to where it is today.
If only he knew what it entails to start and grow a ministry he would have repented long ago .

Be that as it may, no one is perfect, we all need some adjustments here and there. In that case, respect their feats and constructively criticize them.
Politics / Re: Who Is Your Favorite Former Head Of State? by seyi360(m): 9:58pm On Sep 06, 2020
Fash20:
they were all bastards. From yakubu to Abacha

Lol, come on, one of them could have been your Dad. These men were the most successful military officers in their time and they got to the pinnacle of the careers which was a good thing. Calm down bro, I'm sure one of them caught your fancy.
Politics / Re: Who Is Your Favorite Former Head Of State? by seyi360(m): 8:55pm On Sep 06, 2020
sacajawea:
Hands down it gotta be Mr SACAJAWEA's DICK!
great guy, really great guy

Who is Mr Sacajawea?
Politics / Who Is Your Favorite Former Head Of State? by seyi360(m): 8:44pm On Sep 06, 2020
Of Nigeria's former military head of states, the likes of General Obasanjo, Buhari, IBB, Abacha , Abdulsalam . Who amongst them would you give a thumbs up to ? For reasons such as style of governance, policies, composure, kindness, brutality, looks ,dress sense and many more. Post Millennials, if you can't relate , it's ok, just pass.
Personally, I'm down with General Abdulsalam Abubakar, love his white beard, straight look and the fact that he kept to his promise to handover to politicians in 1999.
Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 1:58pm On Sep 06, 2020
chiommy123:
so we should continue in sin that grace may abound?

These guys are just amazing, I don't know what church they attend, who mentors them. This is why Christianity has been almost reduced to a powerless, non effective religion. Apostle Paul warned against such people with doctrines of devils ages ago.

I encourage them to read the epistle of Paul to the Romans and show me where Paul condoned sin.
Paul said "he brings his body under subjection so after he has witnessed to others he won't be a cast away"


1 Timothy 4:1-2
[1]Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
[2]Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared religion
Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 8:01am On Sep 06, 2020
paxonel:
what does it mean to backslide?
It means going back to continue with the sin one has repented of.
That has nothing to do with this scripture you quoted
very wrong conclusion!
Lot's wife and Sodom and Gomorrah were of the old covenant while salvation of the new covenant, so your argument does not follow.
your analogy here though is right in reality but has nothing to do with salvation
the question you should ask yourself is, was there salvation at the time Jesus made this statement?
The answer is no!
Why?
Because Jesus has not yet been crucified.

So, you are totally wrong!
are the many Jesus was talking about here believers(saved people)?
The answer is no!
Why?
Because Jesus has not yet been crucified.
So, this statement does not apply to believers of today
oga,correct yourself!
You are not saved because you do not commit sin, you are saved because of grace


I won't go back and forth on the scriptures I already espoused.


Your attempt to twist the truth cannot change the credibility of the truth

However, I put the scriptures below to you



Hebrews 6:4-6
[4]For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[5]And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[6]If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.


I also know you will attempt to manipulate it, go ahead, give it your best shot

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 7:50am On Sep 06, 2020
alBHAGDADI:


This is a big lie. If you are saved and you die fornicating, you will go to heaven. Dying ontop of a woman not your wife is enough punishment for your sins. You won't go to hell because Jesus has paid for your sins to save you from it. Read my previous post.

It is rather sad what false teachings have done to you. This is disgusting, erroneous, abominable, unthinkable.

And I assume Heb. 12:14 is not in your Bible

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 7:40am On Sep 06, 2020
paxonel:
people like you don't read between lines to understand the context, you just conclude from your emotions

Can you please do us the honor of presenting the textual exegesis.
Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 7:25am On Sep 06, 2020
chiommy123:
so if someone that calls himself a Christian continues lying, fornicating, fighting, etc and dies therein the person is still saved ba?

The word "holiness" is probably strange to them

Heb12:14
"Follow peace with all men and holiness without which no man shall see the Lord"

The careless ,lazy and sin-filled brand of Christianity is what their itching ears long to hear from their end time false teachers.

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 12:26am On Sep 06, 2020
It is unfortunate today that this young generation of Christians have been misled into error.
Our fathers of faith lived a life worthy of emulation and that is why the church in Nigeria is strong today. The principles and tenets of the Apostolic faith were adherred to.
However, with the proliferation of modern day teachings and user friendly brand of Christianity that absolves one of every responsible, there is fire on the mountain.

I gathered these self explanatory scriptures to help someone that if you don't hold on to what you have, you can lose it.
As usual, they will call it misinterpretation of scriptures, but I pray you will be humble enough to see God's word for what it is.

2 Timothy 2:18
[18]Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some

Meaning: Some people's faith was overthrown.

1 Timothy 4:1-2
[1]Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
[2]Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared


Note: Some shall depart from the faith


1 Timothy 1:19-20
[19]Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:

So, faith can shipwreck?



Hebrews 6:4-6
[4]For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[5]And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[6]If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

If you can't see the truth in this scripture, no one will show you.

Happy Sunday

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 11:42pm On Sep 05, 2020
alBHAGDADI:

@OP

What you've posted is nothing but lies and an attack on the redemptive work of Jesus Christ. I will prove it to you by showing you how you've twisted the Bible and used verses wrongly.




A good look at the verse you quoted shows that Jesus is simply talking about those who doubt the kingdom of God, not those who have accepted it.

Those who hold the plough and look back are the ones who are in doubt of the gospel of the kingdom of God. Such are not fit for the kingdom of God because it takes believe without any doubt. Once you hold the plough and you continue with it, it shows you believe that there is a reward waiting for you in the kingdom.

But once you hold the plough and you look back, it means you doubt the message that there's a kingdom waiting for you. That is unbelief and such a person is an unbeliever who is not fit for the kingdom of God.





You have quoted a good verse but wrongly applied it.

Firstly, we need righteousness to make heaven. But what kind of righteousness? Is it our own righteousness that gets us to heaven? Let's see what the Bible says about our own righteousness.

Isaiah 64:6 KJV
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags;

Since the Bible says our righteousness is as filthy rags, shouldn't that tell you that we can't enter heaven with filthy rags? Then which righteousness do we need? We need the righteousness of God which comes through believe in Jesus. That's how Abraham attained righteousness.

Genesis 15:6
And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

John 3:16 says we have to believe in Jesus Christ. When we do that, we become righteous in God's eyes because Jesus who was sinless takes upon himself our sins and gives us his righteousness.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him

So, we have two righteousness - the one which is our own and described as filthy rags, and the one gotten through believe in Jesus which leads to heaven.

So, the righteousness in the verse you quoted could never have gotten that made into heaven because it is filthy rags. It is not the one gotten from Jesus but gotten as a result of what he did as seen in the verse itself.




This passage ties with what I explained above.

The men were depending on their own WORKS of righteousness instead of the righteousness from God through believe in Jesus Christ.

Notice how while they were mentioning all they have done, they never mentioned that they believed in Jesus Christ. It was all about their wonderful works of righteousness which are filthy rags.

Jesus answered them saying, "I never knew you". He didn't say "I used to know you but stopped after you sinned." He said he never knew them at any point in time. That's because they didn't believe he could save them from their sins. They thought their works of righteousness is what will get them to heaven. That's why they listed it.

If it is that Jesus stopped knowing them after they sinned, then he's a liar to have said he NEVER knew them. I'm glad he's not a liar. So clearly, you have misinterpreted the passage.




Look, Judas was never saved. Even before Jesus called him, he was a devil.

John 6:70
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?




This verse doesn't in any way talk about losing one's salvation. You are misapplying it just as you've done so far.

Mind you, John 3:16 promises eternal life to those who believe in Jesus. Eternal Life means a life that doesn't end. If it could end, then God lied when he said he gave us eternal life. I'm glad he's not a liar.


Once Saved Always Saved.



Firstly, it's a manifestation of doctrinal intolerance, immaturity and extremism to suggest that my submission are lies and an attack on the redemptive work of Christ. The fact that this topic has eschatological implications makes all suggestions speculative , which brings it under the auspices of speculative eschatology. Thus, calm down.



Your submission has only reiterated my assertion. The man whose hand is on the plough believes , but later doubts the message he once believed. Is that not what I'm driving at?








Does the righteousness gotten from Jesus absolve one of the consequences of sin after salvation? Does this righteousness grant a license to live in sin?
He that commit sin is of the devil, a saved man cannot continue to sin. His sins will push him out of the way.



"I never knew you, you "WORKERS OF INIQUITY"
Firstly, redemption is not a smoke screen for working of iniquity.
Those people were rejected because they were described as "workers of iniquity", which is exactly my point.
A saved man who lacks discipline and continues to play games with sin will ultimately lose the gift of salvation he got .





How would you know today if a brother were a Judas? A Christian worker, Pastor , Apostle etc who performs great signs and wonders in the church. Since you are not Jesus. Was it not the sin in Judas' life that gave him up?
Are you saying a believer can keep stealing God's money without repenting and still remain saved regardless just because he has eternal security?

My brother, don't be deceived , because God cannot be mocked, whatever a man sows same shall he reap.


I thought you would counter that unambiguous scripture, but you can't.

Eternal life is a gift which the recipient may discard

Once saved is not forever saved

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 11:32pm On Sep 05, 2020
alBHAGDADI:


That guy doesn't believe Jesus can keep him safe. Hence, he doesn't believe in Jesus.

You need to be deprogrammed and reprogrammed

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 11:29pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emmanuelcann:
Can you remove yourself from God's hands? It's either that you have received the gift of eternal life or not. "Eternal", "Everlasting" both mean "endless!"
"Salvation" and "Saved" refer to a completed act. How can something that's "eternal" end for any reason whatsoever? It means it was never eternal to start with!


Whatever you choose to believe, the critical question is; does it give you the right to live in sin and go Scot free?

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 11:27pm On Sep 05, 2020
alBHAGDADI:


At this point, I have no choice but to label you an illiterate both spiritually and academically.

How can you say eternal life is a gift and that the recepient can discard it? It's ridiculous.

First, what does eternal life mean? It means a life that NEVER ends. We get eternal life when we believe in Jesus Christ because it is God's gift to us.

But you say one can discard it. This means the eternal life will END in the process. If so, then it means it wasn't eternal life you got as a gift then. Because eternal life doesn't end, nothing can make it end; it is ETERNAL.

So, you sound like an illiterate when you say eternal life can be discarded.


Like I said earlier, you are clearly demonstrating abysmal doctrinal intolerance, immaturity and extremism.

These issues have eschatological dimensions which makes them speculative.
Neither you nor myself have been to heaven and back
Calling me an illetrate is clearly uncalled for.
These issues fall under the Category of non essentials
Whatever your conviction is, let it guide you
Make your point and avoid getting saucy.

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 9:26pm On Sep 05, 2020
chukwunweikeemi:
Do you know any church in Lagos where the doctrine of eternal security is believed and preached and where God's grace has not beem taken for a license for sin?

Your question is akin to asking for a pregnant virgin. Of course the folks who deliberately sin using grace as smoke screen are the propagandists of eternal security. There are many churches who subscribe to it but I don't think it's right to mention a church.

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 9:10pm On Sep 05, 2020
Brachaa:
I am saved by Grace, not by works. Nothing I do or do not do will make me lose my salvation except I opt out through blasphemy. God forbid!

We didn't do anything to get the free gift of salvation and there's nothing we need do to keep it otherwise we make his death null and void.

You have a point " except you opt out through blasphemy". Please don't decide to opt out, may God help you.

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 9:03pm On Sep 05, 2020
alBHAGDADI:

@OP

What you've posted is nothing but lies and an attack on the redemptive work of Jesus Christ. I will prove it to you by showing you how you've twisted the Bible and used verses wrongly.

Firstly, it's a manifestation of doctrinal intolerance, immaturity and extremism to suggest that my submission are lies and an attack on the redemptive work of Christ. The fact that this topic has eschatological implications makes all suggestions speculative , which brings it under the auspices of speculative eschatology. Thus, calm down.




A good look at the verse you quoted shows that Jesus is simply talking about those who doubt the kingdom of God, not those who have accepted it.

Those who hold the plough and look back are the ones who are in doubt of the gospel of the kingdom of God. Such are not fit for the kingdom of God because it takes believe without any doubt. Once you hold the plough and you continue with it, it shows you believe that there is a reward waiting for you in the kingdom.

But once you hold the plough and you look back, it means you doubt the message that there's a kingdom waiting for you. That is unbelief and such a person is an unbeliever who is not fit for the kingdom of God.

Your submission has only reiterated my assertion. The man whose hand is on the plough believes , but later doubts the message he once believed. Is that not what I'm driving at?





You have quoted a good verse but wrongly applied it.

Firstly, we need righteousness to make heaven. But what kind of righteousness? Is it our own righteousness that gets us to heaven? Let's see what the Bible says about our own righteousness.

Isaiah 64:6 KJV
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags;

Since the Bible says our righteousness is as filthy rags, shouldn't that tell you that we can't enter heaven with filthy rags? Then which righteousness do we need? We need the righteousness of God which comes through believe in Jesus. That's how Abraham attained righteousness.

Genesis 15:6
And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

John 3:16 says we have to believe in Jesus Christ. When we do that, we become righteous in God's eyes because Jesus who was sinless takes upon himself our sins and gives us his righteousness.

2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him

So, we have two righteousness - the one which is our own and described as filthy rags, and the one gotten through believe in Jesus which leads to heaven.

So, the righteousness in the verse you quoted could never have gotten that made into heaven because it is filthy rags. It is not the one gotten from Jesus but gotten as a result of what he did as seen in the verse itself.


Does the righteousness gotten from Jesus absolve one of the consequences of sin after salvation? Does this righteousness grant a license to live in sin?
He that commit sin is of the devil, a saved man cannot continue to sin. His sins will push him out of the way.




This passage ties with what I explained above.

The men were depending on their own WORKS of righteousness instead of the righteousness from God through believe in Jesus Christ.

Notice how while they were mentioning all they have done, they never mentioned that they believed in Jesus Christ. It was all about their wonderful works of righteousness which are filthy rags.

Jesus answered them saying, "I never knew you". He didn't say "I used to know you but stopped after you sinned." He said he never knew them at any point in time. That's because they didn't believe he could save them from their sins. They thought their works of righteousness is what will get them to heaven. That's why they listed it.

If it is that Jesus stopped knowing them after they sinned, then he's a liar to have said he NEVER knew them. I'm glad he's not a liar. So clearly, you have misinterpreted the passage.


"I never knew you, you "WORKERS OF INIQUITY"
Firstly, redemption is not a smoke screen for working of iniquity.
Those people were rejected because they were described as "workers of iniquity", which is exactly my point.
A saved man who lacks discipline and continues to play games with sin will ultimately lose the gift of salvation he got .



Look, Judas was never saved. Even before Jesus called him, he was a devil.

John 6:70
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?


How would you know today if a brother were a Judas? A Christian worker, Pastor , Apostle etc who performs great signs and wonders in the church. Since you are not Jesus. Was it not the sin in Judas' life that gave him up?
Are you saying a believer can keep stealing God's money without repenting and still remain saved regardless just because he has eternal security?

My brother, don't be deceived , because God cannot be mocked, whatever a man sows same shall he reap.




This verse doesn't in any way talk about losing one's salvation. You are misapplying it just as you've done so far.

Mind you, John 3:16 promises eternal life to those who believe in Jesus. Eternal Life means a life that doesn't end. If it could end, then God lied when he said he gave us eternal life. I'm glad he's not a liar.


Once Saved Always Saved.

I thought you would counter that unambiguous scripture, but you can't.

Eternal life is a gift which the recipient may discard

Once saved is not forever saved

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 8:26pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emmanuelcann:
Simply impossible! Can you remove yourself from God's hands when he's holding you? No man can save himself, and no man that is saved can lose what God gave and assured him of! Salvation (eternal life) is a gift you can only receive from God -
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Romans 6:23;
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"
Ephesians 2:8
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."
John 3:36
Nobody will go to heaven other than through what Christ did by paying the full penalty for their sin. I didn't save myself, so I definitely will never lose what God gave me assurance of!


God may give you a gift and you decide to discard it.

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 7:37pm On Sep 05, 2020
Emmanuelcann:
It means you believe God is unable to keep his word - Titus 1:2, John 10:27-29.
The scriptures you quoted were definitely taken out of context.
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2 Timothy 2:15

This passage in no way asserts the indefectibility of the elect, and gives no countenance to ultra-predestinarian views. Christ’s sheep cannot be taken from Him against their will; but their will is free, and they may choose to leave the flock.

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Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 7:03pm On Sep 05, 2020
Alexk2:
God bless you for this post/thread. I pray it open eyes that couldn't see the truth about this error.
Permission tousr some of those facts please

Please go ahead
Religion / Re: Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 5:52pm On Sep 05, 2020
NobleSeed:
The bitter truth some so called church goers who call themselves Christians fail to reckon with.

Hyper grace propagandist are on their way.

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Religion / Once Saved Is Not Forever Saved by seyi360(m): 5:42pm On Sep 05, 2020
Lately I've been reading some interesting arguments on the subject of the believer's eternal security. Premised on the above, I've decided to clarify a few things

The crucial questions here are thus;
Is it possible for a saved person to backslide?
Is it possible for a saved person to lose his or her salvation?
Does a believer's lifestyle matter anymore after he gets saved?
Will a believer be held accountable for his or her sins after salvation?

By God's grace , we shall provide answers to these questions

Firstly, Jesus said. "No man having put his hand to the plough and looking back is fit for the kingdom of God" Lk 9:62

The man whose hand is already on the plough cannot be labelled "unbeliever". He is saved and on his way to heaven. However, he looked back, which means he's a backslider and was declared unfit for heaven. The same way Lot's wife who was held by Angels on her way to safety looked back at Sodom and Gomorrah and became a pillar of salt.
Hence, once saved is not forever saved.

Ezekiel 3: 20.
"Again, when a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die in his sin and the righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered anymore ......

Meaning a once righteous man can die in iniquity. Hence, once saved is not forever saved

Matthew 7:21-23
"Not every one that saith unto me Lord Lord shall enter the kingdom of my father, but he that does the will of my father in heaven
Many will say to me in that day Lord have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you, depart from me ,ye workers of iniquity"

An unbeliever cannot cast out devils using the name of Jesus
An unbeliever cannot prophecy in the name of Jesus
An unbeliever cannot perform miracles in the name of Jesus
Hence, the people Jesus talked about were born again, spirit filled believers, workers, mature Christians, gifted and anointed believers, Pastors, Prophets, Bishops, etc.
However, these saved men had secret sins, unconfessed sins they nurtured in their closets which made them workers of iniquity.
Hence, once saved is not forever saved.

Luke 9:1

"Then he called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over devils and to cure diseases"

Dear readers, Judas Is Cariot was one of these 12 who got power and authority. But because there was the secret sin of covetousness in his heart, despite his proximity with God, the devil capitalized on that sin and used him to betray Jesus.
Hence, once saved is not forever saved.

Hebrews 6:4-6

"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and were made partakers of the holyghost
And have tasted the good word of God and powers of the world to come
If they shall fall away, to renew them unto repentance, seeing they crucify to themselves the son of God afresh and put him to an open shame."

Here ,it is established that falling away is possible.
Hence, once saved is not forever saved.

1Corinthians 10:12
"Wherefore, let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall"

Its abundantly obvious from the scripture above that falling away is very possible.

I could go on with more scriptures, but I'll rather stop here.
As a believer , you have a responsibility to sit up and hold tightly to what you have otherwise you may lose it.

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Travel / Re: Advice A Deportee Friend From U.K by seyi360(m): 7:52am On Sep 05, 2020
Wolgrace:
If he stayed long, he should make use of the educative societal pattern, modern inventions, innovative ideas, creativity and skills, widal knowledge, social exposure, technical/electronical system of networking, systematic template of modern advancement, mental strength, and visual display of confidence he acquired to his own advantage here..

-Except he stayed aimlessly, a huge stumbling block and might be the reason he's frustrated and confused. If not, he can build his own UK empire here. Not compulsory he stays there..

Noted
Travel / Re: Advice A Deportee Friend From U.K by seyi360(m): 7:50am On Sep 05, 2020
Tillatalk:
He should go and learn trade

but will he be humble enough to do that after 11 years of hustling abroad?
Travel / Re: Advice A Deportee Friend From U.K by seyi360(m): 7:25am On Sep 05, 2020
chukxie:
Deportation from an organized country into a country like Nigeria is a hard pill to swallow. But there's still hope for the living. So, tell your friend to calm down, enjoy the moment however bad it appears, and come up with plans for his next move. Good luck to him.

What move do you suggest?
Travel / Re: Advice A Deportee Friend From U.K by seyi360(m): 7:24am On Sep 05, 2020
[quote author=Skymoore1004 post=93582860]Why was he deported? [/quo


Paper issues
Travel / Re: Advice A Deportee Friend From U.K by seyi360(m): 7:22am On Sep 05, 2020
Originalsly:


An old friend just got deported from the UK....... really?.....so why can't you give him advice?

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