Kobojunkie:
is this really your response to the question I asked of your post ?

Sincerely, you have identity issues and you need help.

Kobojunkie:

So it is wrong for followers of Jesus Christ to admit they too had a sin-fillled past like every one else?

You again?

There should be a limit to what a preacher says about his past life especially while preaching.
When a preacher says
"back in the days, I slept around with my mother's mates"
"I used to be a serial fornicator and rapist"
"I was a murderer and a burglar " etc

Really? And you're proud of such acts? I think that clearly is the height of ecclesiastical insensitivity.

Such unguarded statements has the tendency of poking unhealed wounds in the hearts of some of your listeners , opening you up to temptations and easily making you a victim of extended hatred.

You're called to be a healer, not a killer.

amuwo1980:
Rubbish useless write up

Na so e pain you reach?

The dynamics of politics, the intrigues, suspense, backstabbings, permutations, postulations, tactical negotiations etc all came to bear in the ongoing internal squabble of the APC.
This week in particular is indeed dramatic as the political pendulum swung in the direction many keen political observers predicted as far back as 2015.
The major albatross bedeviling this contraption called Nigeria is the lack of trust amongst the 3 major ethnic groups.

Seasoned and experienced political voices with a good sense of Nigeria's political history though in the minority warned Senator Bola Tinubu about this strange alliance with the North he was leading with the intent of ousting PDP and Goodluck Jonathan.

Jagaban replied them in his speech at the inauguration of APC," if we sink in this alliance, so be it . But history will be fair to us that we rose to the occasion to salvage Nigeria from the grips of political and economic saboteurs"

He went ahead with the alliance in the hope of been appreciated and rewarded with the Presidency after Buhari's tenure. It was a risky game,but I can't blame him. No visionary leader could have watched the wantom impunity and executive recklessness of the PDP and stood aloof. The miasma of corruption around the Jonathan presidency was unbearable.

As if he saw the future, his prediction began to crystallize immediately the President was sworn in. About 80% of the names he forwarded for political appointments were replaced by the cabal who controlled the Presidency.

His only eye and voice in the Presidency, the vice president was rendered irrelevant and inconsequential in the scheme of things.
The ultimate agenda was to silence him, grind him to a powder like substance and blow him in to the air of political Oblivion at least at the Federal level.

It is an open secret that the political elites of the North are scared of Asiwaju's political brilliance and are envious of the influence he wields across-the-board.

They couldn't have been comfortable with him. They fear he might actualise the restructuring agenda that Nigerians have clamoured for to address the political inequality in the polity.

The President had become the proverbial falcon who no longer heeds the falconer.
As it stands today, the Asiwaju camp seem to be licking their wounds, but the game is far from over. He still commands an army of dedicated loyalists who may decide to play along or sink the ship.

All of these makes 2023 presidency all the more interesting because no one can say with certainty which zone will produce the President. Certain elements in the North wants power to remain there to compensate and complete Yaradua's tenure.

A wounded Tinubu has given a boost to the extension of Northern Presidency as the south can't boast of any other politician that matches Tinibu's clout.
With the possibility of PDP fielding Atiku for 2023, APC might as well choose a Fulani flag bearer.
The south may have to wait till 2027 to taste the Presidency again.
Peradventure the APC decides to relinquish power to the south come 2023, they will hand pick a southern puppet they can control. The Asiwaju I know is not a political puppet.

Where does this leave Tinubu? May be he isn't destined to be President, may be.

delkuf:
He is always out of point

Thought I was the only one who noticed.

Kobojunkie:

All created in letter Paul supposedly wrote.

What's your point?

Here are the 5 fold ministries
Apostles
Prophets
Evangelists
Pastors
Teachers

Ephesians 4:11
[11]And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

Of these 5, Prophets seem to accrue more followers than others especially when the Prophetic gift is accompanied by the Teaching gift.
I've attended prayer meetings where tens of people will run after a Prophet to consult, get his contact or give him an envelope the moment he drops the mic.
Whereas no one approaches a Pastor who just raises prayer points and teaches the word in the same meeting where ministers take turns to speak.
In a derogatory way, some Pastors say things like " there is no prophecy besides the word of God, the world is full of fake Prophets and prophecies, don't allow prophecies fool you"

While Prophets respond with " where there is no vision the people perish, pastors who can't see visions don't know their left from their right "

Though many may not like to admit it, but there is a silent rivalry between Pastors and Prophets over who carries more spiritual authority.

The truth is , the grace of the 5 offices are needed at some point in a Christian's work and walk through life.
Let the rivalry stop.

Babacele:
No doubt but all the Jewish prophets had to visit Egypt for one succor or the other and copied so many things from there....Moses, Jesus etc

What succor, what was copied?

Babacele:
long before the two, a pharaoh started the believe in God.

Egyptians were idol worshippers

Babacele:
claims by all religions to own God (the father the universe irrespective of sentiments.).

Monotheism is the belief that there is one God
Polytheism is the belief that there are gods

Thus, all religions don't profess a common belief.
But I know that Christianity and Islam believe in monotheism, they however differ on the medium to reach Him.

Romanoff:


You can say your truth without insults. I am assuming you're a spirit filled child of God, the spirit of God in you should let you know that you're not uniting the church.

Read your post paragraph by paragraph, what you mostly did was insult the Pentecostals. I maintain my stand that this is a jab at the Pentecostals further dividing the body of Christ.

Since you're an advocate of the truth always being bitter, I pray you'll be truthful or honest enough to see that your post is not uniting the body of Christ.

May God find us worthy and ready at his coming in Jesus name.

Pentecostals deserve the jab.

Babacele:
Then ,what is it with all the religious claims we make especially when we try ,so unsuccessfully though, to appropriate God?

What claims precisely?

helinues:
Oya, make una tear una self apart

Far from that, we are simply reasoning.

Romanoff:


You termed them as "penterascals". Isn't that derogatory to you?

If your attempt was to call for unity, it tilts more towards division.

You might want to check your post again, if you're a spirit filled child of God, you'll see the errors in many statements on your post and you'll put your message across in a less insulting manner.

The truth is always bitter. The first person to use the term "Penterascals" is the great but late Arcbishop Benson Idahosa who was the first president of the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria. Neither you nor myself can claim to be more Pentecostal than him. He made giant strides in his attempt to unite the body of Christ not only in Nigeria but globally. This rascality has been with us for decades, the strange things some of us do in the name of pentecostalism is not just rascally but criminal.
Yet we walk around with a chip on our shoulders, castigating white garment and orthodox folks while some of us do worse things under designer jackets and shoes embellished with the best American accent. Kiss the truth.

Sodiquinone:
seriously

Seriously

Babacele:
Preach brother......if I may ask, what is God's religion?

God is not religious

Romanoff:
Sometime, the way we so called Christians divide the body of Christ cause of our sentiments to our beliefs and doctrines just amazes me.

Spirit filled Christians shouldn't be found doing this. At the end of the day, it is the same standard used for the Orthodox that will be used for the Pentecostal.

In all, we should take care of the body of Christ and not scatter it by pointing fingers and name calling.

Shalom

Not sure you read it well, what exactly is divisive about this? This is rather an eye opener for critics to drop their prejudiced disposition towards other denominations.

The Arrogance of Pentecostalism

Permit me to set the ball rolling with this daring statement " pentecostals are arrogant "

Before you get it twisted ,the writer is one himself. I've never been a member of any orthodox establishment, except for a few times we've had to pray together on prayer mountains.

Self righteous pentecostals gaze at white garment and Orthodox churches through the lens of disdain and resentment , while parading themselves as the custodian of the Holy Spirit.

The popular notion that all white garment churches are fake,fetish and hell bound is born out of the womb of religiosity, pomposity and self imposed doctrines.

Ask an average Pentecostal what he thinks of White garment folks, the response will only gravitate in the direction of condemnation.

They never believe that the Holy ghost recognizes them let alone dwell in their midst to work signs and wonders.

Unknown to the over rated Penterascals , diabolic and fetishistic practises has crept in and strongly holds sway underneath the designer tuxedoes, Italian shoes and polished American accent of their charismatic leaders.

They are quick to ask " where is it in the new testament?"
Where is what?
a. Wearing of white garment to church
b. Walking bare footed in the white garment
c. Use of candlesticks
d. Use of frankincense

Apparently, they haven't come across it in their new Testament or they saw it but were so blinded by their hatred and prejudicial disposition to them.

Little do they know that the appearance of a typical white garment member on his/her white garment with a girdle and barefooted, depicts John the Revelator's description of the glorified Christ in Revelation.

Revelation: 1. 13.
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15. And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

According to verse 13 , The glorified Christ was seen in the midst of seven golden candlesticks. So why do you condemn the use of candles ? Except its used wrongly

John even saw and described his feet because the glorified Jesus had no shoes on. Rev.1:15
So why look at them strangely when they walk barefooted?

Revelation: 8. 3.

And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.

4. And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended before God out of the angel's hand.

The above scripture affirms the use of incense by Angelic beings. Apparently, our criticism is void of knowledge.

Promiscuity which seems to be the white garment churches' trademark has been equalled if not surpassed by pentehooligans with damaging reports of their lustfulness littering the social media space.

The writer is by no means attempting to rubber stamp all the activities and doctrines of white garment and orthodox churches . Some of them still struggle with their long list of doctrinal errors and diabolic practises as much as the Pentecostals do.

The self righteousness, over bloated self esteem and judgemental spirit exhibited by the pentihooligans is the log of wood that has blinded their eyes to their own errors.

Our idiosyncratic and eccentric dispositions shouldn't set us apart , but should rather make us appreciate the multi breasted and all encompassing creator whose open handedness can't be censored by our childish bias.

Many are even unaware that The Redeemed Christian Church Of God is a product of The Cherubim and Seraphim Church.

Are you a white garment church member? worship God wholeheartedly and study the word to know God for yourself . If you realize you are being led to take a walk, only then should you. Don't be bamboozled by the glitters and glamour of Pentecostals. You can make heaven if you do God's word where you are.

May his name be praised.

Demola Akinyeye

callmeRichie:
share us ur experience bro, I can relate sha

I can say I've had just one close friend all my youthful life and our loyalty to ourselves is second to none. We can never cross that line.

FreshBoss007:
They sleep naked and ready for duty when it calls

That's because they're shameless irritants.
Where is their badge of loyalty?
How do you sacrifice productive friendship for sexual escapade?
Some don't think with their heads.

It baffles me how some people live their lives after snatching their best friend's lover. Most do it on a coded level, shameful enough . While the daring ones are even bold enough to make a public show of it in the face of the victim.
This is nothing but lust and covetousness at it's peak.

To the unknown God ;

Secularists promote secularism as a function of the information they surrender their susceptibility to. Their worldview is a reflection of materialism. There are two definitions of materialism.
The first is the tendency to acquire material possession while the other definition is the belief that whatever is not tangible, palpable and measurable by time and space is not real.

In other words, if it cannot be subjected to empiricism, it's an illusion. They also believe that all problems under the sun has their solutions under the sun

That assertion sounds absolutely logical and
reasonable, but the implication it portends is the shutting down of the soul from exercising one of it's natural repertoire which is to explore beyond the realm of the earthly stratosphere in the search of solutions to life's conundrum.

That school of thought also seem to amplify man's corporeal(physical) plane of existence to the detriment of his ethereal(spiritual) plane of existence .

Blaise Pascal said" There is a reason beyond reasoning". His assertion does not in the slightest form diminish or relegate reasoning , it however points in the direction of something beyond reasoning.

There are basically four positions of Christian Apologists.

The first is known as
Christian Rationalism; The belief that reason is enough to completely demonstrate the validity of the Christian faith(Raymond Lully)

Followed by Christian Agnosticism; A complete distrust of reason. A belief that faith and reason don't mix.(Blaise Pascal)

The third is Logical Christianity; The belief that one can begin with reason and move on to faith(Thomas Aquinas)

Lastly, Autonomous Christianity; A belief that faith is self - establishing and that it is not inconsistent with reason. Faith and reason are not mutually exclusive. ( Cornelius Van Til)

Of these four positions , the third and fourth seem to slightly accommodate the position of secularists by giving a place to reason in man's search for answers to life's questions.

Christianity is not against reason, but it's above reasoning. To argue that there is no more to life than what can be scientifically established, is to be an intellectual ignoramus, proving ignorance with intellect.

False philosophy is like a blind man looking in a dark room for a black cat that isn't there.
False philosophy is that science of learning more and more about less and less until you finally know everything about nothing.

Looking for what is not lost in a place that does not exist best describes man's several attempts to solve life's puzzle outside of the divine . A deliberate disregard of God is man's greatest undoing.

There is a God who made the heavens and the earth, though unknown to you, He knows everything about you.

For me, the fact that I don't have to shake people's hands anymore is relieving. After scratching private regions of the body without washing or sneezing on their palms without washing , they stretch their hands for a shake expecting you to shake those hands. It was considered rude to turn down a hand shake, but now I don't have to worry about that. It's the new normal.
Also, the reduction of passengers in commercial buses makes it more convenient than it was in the past.

LordReed:


What I see here is ignorance, persecution complex, inferiority complex and lying to oneself.

You're entitled to your opinion. However, the truth remains that there is a higher deity who reign supreme over the affairs of men, he is God.

The decision by FG to withdraw their initial support for Frederick Agah looked suspicious .The man Frederick Agah also needs to come to real international limelight, it can't always be about NOI. There are dozens of experienced technocrats who would match or surpass NOI if given the opportunity to hold such positions. Let's support him and hope he gets there.

dalaman:


The problem of Christians is arrogance. They refuse to accept Allah as the only true God and Mohammed as his last messenger. So they have been given a reprobate mind. .

You don't know what you are talking about

odinson1:

you Know God exactly the same way i Know harry potter and Batman

You need help

donbachi:
With the knees of 3 apc factions on his neck..i dont think.

I thought there are just 2 factions

odinson1:

I Dont remember God telling me anything, neither did he tell the hindus, Buddhists,Sikhists,Shintoists, Atheists, Agnostics,satanists,Practicioners of ancient religions
so yeah he took the 2nd option because he told only the jews
so The Bible God is stupid

The God I know is not stupid, but you are
For not recognizing Him as God you are capital STUPID.

The twists and turns of events lately in the politics of Edo is nothing short of a thriller.

24 hours they say is a lot of time in politics. Just when Obaseki's political fortune seem to have been depleted by the robust and tactical machination of Oshiomole, in a dramatic fashion, the tide is suspected to be turning in favor of Obaseki.

The decision by the court of appeal to uphold the suspension of the erstwhile National Chairman of APC couldn't have come at a better time for Obaseki's sympathisers.

The acting Chairman Victor Giadom's decision to cancel the Edo Gubernatorial screening exercise and call for a fresh one must have translated to a source of major trepidation for Osho's syndicate.

Osho's camp will certainly not go to sleep, legal consultations and strategic meetings must have commenced in the hope of coming up with a game changer, but how much time is left
to concretize their plans? We are waiting with baited breath

However, the coast seems clear for Obaseki, looks like his guts is paying off after all. The assertion " Edo is not Lagos" will get more mention in the coming days .

The Edo scenario has introduced new entries into Nigeria's political vocabulary. Entries such as " Ambode option" implying political cowardice.
And now we have the opposite of the Ambode option which is "Obaseki option" implying political courage to challenge and defeat godfatherism.

What next? Your guess is as good as mine , we are all waiting to see the next weapon to be pulled out from their political arsenals.

Looks like we are in for an interesting political season typical of the captivating Telenovelas known for suspense, intrigues, betrayals and uncertainties.

Brace yourselves, the episode continues.....

odinson1:
COMMUNICATION THEORY 101
You are an extremely brilliant polylinguist with encyclopedic knowledge of the world and there is something vitally important you must do. This job is literally a matter of life and death for millions of people--you cannot allow a single mistake.
There are 30 children in your village under 5 years old and they all speak different languages. The job is to give a message to every one of the 30 children. It is crucial that the message is accurately relayed and properly understood. How will you do it?
You think of two options.
Option (1) Choose one infant and pass the message to him in his language, then leave him to tell all the other children.
Option (2) Tell each child yourself and make sure they all understood the message.
Only one of these options is likely to work and you don't have to be brilliant to figure out which one.
When God wanted to reveal himself to the world, he chose option (1). That leaves three possibilities, God is stupid, or he wanted the plan to fail, or the Hebrews made the whole thing up and there was no God and no message.
What do you think the likely answer is?

Your illustration clearly lacks merit, how do you mean God chose option 1. He rather chose the second option but with a clause, God won't force you to admit His existence, rather He gave man the will power to choose what to believe

It's as clear as the star studded heaven that there is a higher deity called God .