successmatters:
Chai

Onyocha:


Fine! If it makes you sleep well at night.

Onyocha:


That's your problem. Zero honesty and credibility. You think everyone is a sellout like you. I wish I was paid as you claim. I only express my honest opinion on this contentious issue out of concern for the wellbeing and peace of all Nigerians. If this was solely an Igbo problem and the rest of the country is immune, no one will care. So stop massaging your empty ego and flattering your flat head to think anyone cares about you. The toy you are using to play with and blackmail others using the ugly name of "biafra" is not just a name. It is war, conflict, siege, hunger and destruction. And if it happens, it will befall everyone. You're playing with a dangerous toy. Others do not want to be victims of your greed and stupidity if the inevitable happens. So stop being stupid or you will eventually have to be the only ones to pay for your stupidity. And no one then will care or feel sorry to the echoes of your cries.

Onyocha:
These are the reasons why I believe Biafra will not succeed and igbos have no way to succeed in creating their own country. In fact, if eventually igbos are given their own country, it will be so full of hunger, division, and conflict that they may eventually beg for the northerners to return and rule over them.

When you hear northerners begging the FG to let igbos go, consider the below reasons. Pay close attention at no. 4!

1.) if Biafra is to happen, it will be limited to five states. Nigeria will not hand over the Niger delta to the igbos even if the south south will eventually get its own independence on a different date and separately. What the north will not have, the igbos cannot get.

2.) Niger deltans either do not want to be part of Biafra or will eventually not want to remain in Biafra. That means conflict and even bloodshed. If the igbos think their Biafra will be a mini version of Nigeria where they will have hegemony over the Niger delta, and its oil, that is Satan dreaming of making it to heaven.

3.) the international community have nothing to gain from Biafra. And it will never want bloodshed and conflict that will send oil prices skyrocketing due to conflict between igbos and Niger deltans.

4.) if Nigeria is to allow the five Igbo states to conduct referendum today and give them independence, Biafra will literally be like Lesotho. A country within a country. (If you do not know how Lesotho looks like, please check you world map. It is a country inside South Africa; and Nigeria or neighbors won't be to Biafra what South Africa is to Lesotho). Nigeria can close its borders with a thick fence and close its airspace to Biafra of five Igbo states. Literally, your clamor for independence will end up being cries of siege. It will be hunger and poverty.

5.) igbos of five states clamoring for independence is not geographically feasible. It is like kanuris in parts of the north asking for independence. Your landmass is poorly situated. It's not even about the size. Your Biafra of five states is inside another country if your dream ever come to pass.

6.) the north can feed itself and Biafra cannot. Arable land is in abundance in the north and the north has been a bastion of agriculture.

7.) the north is a big market economically. It's landmass and population means big business. It is a big consumer market. That is money.

With your independence turning into a siege, you're literally finished. No agriculture of the north and no Niger delta oil for you and in an hostile environment, you are doomed. And this doom will also affect others. Therefore your Biafra project is aimed at destruction for everyone. To bring down the house on everyone's heads; and that is why many will stand against it to prevent such destruction from happening.

And far from being peaceful, no partition goes smoothly in places with ethnic and religious divisions and rivalry. Take example of India and Pakistan.

The best bet for igbos is to forge alliances across the nation and even go as far as mending fences with the north. People like okorocha and Amaechi have done well in that line of building bridges with the northerners.

You can clamor for restructuring or whatever it is called. Division of Nigeria will not end with a Biafra of anything more than five states. It will witness multiple divisions in both the south and the north. It could see continuos wars, famine and starvation which will be rampant in the north. Five states with 30 to 40 million igbos will be too populated with little sustenance or means for survival.

You will definitely not eat your cake and have it after asking for division. And that's where the north is hitting hard by asking igbos to leave. Such divisions means igbos starting from ZERO. You can't ask for your country and still try to live, and work elsewhere and want to control lands of other minorities.

As Nigeria is, it is not a land of a majority. It is a land of minorities. Add the biggest three ethnic groups, and the minorities will end up being more in terms of numbers.

And if the inevitable happens, igbos will be on their own. Both the middle belt and the south south or the Niger delta will not come to the help of igbos or want to die for igbos to have a country to dominate. Whether in Nigeria, in Biafra or in small independent countries, those ethnicities in the Middle East belt and in the Niger delta will remain minorities. Corruption cuts across ethnic groups. So what would they really stand to gain by dying for igbos? The igbos will end up besieged and beaten again if the inevitable (war) happens and may God forbid that.

Those few voices outside the five Igbo states cheering the igbos to secede will be no where to be found if the worst happens. The northerners will literally have a picnic in the south east, again! It will be really messy for igbos and they may never ever recover or survive as a group again. In fact, after such loss and dent to their image, anything Igbo may end up being treated like pariah. So those with much adrenaline flowing in their blood should think well before following the loud mouth of Kanu who may well end up proven to be an empty barrel.

Secession and partition are not child's play. I fully believe that self determination is human right. But in time of conflict, human right is abused. And how worse if the abuses and divisions are a never ending spiral? More or less a Pandora box! Half bread is better than none. Greed is a vice not a virtue.

naturalman:



Must you tribalise everytin.....The truth is that those supporting Biafra are pure ilitrates, they need to go back to school in order to enable them read history......I am an Igbo but I hate the word Biafra and those supporting it......

Go and read about the first tribe that draw the first sword in the name of military coup....

Who agreed to this one Nigeria marriage even when awolowo refused to sign,...who signed for southern Nigeria....ask your father.

Igbo's was on top of the Nigerian politics before Ojukwu out of ignorancy came and took us backward...and the Igbo have to start again from afresh..now the Nnamdi KANU of a person want to repeat the sametin again....

Have you asked yourself, who will be the leaders of Biafra when the time comes....will they manufacture intelligency or the ones they have now....

The truth is that our brother and leaders are the problems of the SE region....

The Igbo's have been in the reign of affairs since 1999, during OBJ and Jonathan regime.......What did they do for their people?

If you are educated, think well before you join those market men and women to shout Biafra...

The Hausa or Yoruba man is not your problem......it is our evil leaders.....just like the nigerdelta..... Very wicked and evil leaders.....

Crosscheck the activities of the past governors of SE and see how evil this demons are.....they will commit offence and our people will hail them out of foolishness and then turn back to blame the federal government.....

How can someone in his right senses vote T.A orji into senate seat.....

How can one be supporting Andy Una for governor and even allow him to occupy seat....

The list are too numerous....
The Igbo's held senate president seat but out of greed for power lost it to david mark......
From Wabara to ken anamani to Anyim Pius ayim....fighting themselves.

Igbo's need to sit up and address issue diplomatically and in a civilized way than the trash they are doing now....

What did Jonathan did for southeast that we have refuse to move on......even otueke, his own people have all moved on...

Why must a group of Igbo's decide to bring shame and problem to other Igbo's, that are genuinely doing their tins....

Even when Igbo's and other tribe conspired to kill the leaders In 1965... the Igbo quickly killed the leaders of the northern and western extration but never killed their own.....thinking you are smart and wise..

You hate the Yoruba's for no just reason.....we have forgotten so quickly that it is this same Yoruba's that made us to recover quickly after the civil war....the Igbo's success after the civil war started from Lagos and spread to their part and region of the country...

Where was Nnamdi azikiwe during the civil war?
Who out of greed for power signed for southern Nigeria, even when AWOLOWO refused and warned him.....

I think the young generations of Igbo's need to go and read history very well......

Udmaster:
Can they move on from the election defeat of Goodlucj jonathan? NO!
These Bunch of brainwashed Igbo guys were the one shouting "GEJ till 2019" in 2015 general election but when GEJ lost, Nnamdi kanu preyed on their emotional nature and brainwashed them into thinking that Minorities in south south will join them in Biafra.
.
Why did these ipob noise accelerate after Buhari victory in 2015? and
If Nigeria expired in 2014, was GEJ not the president then, why disturbing Buhari?
It pains me so well that youths from an ethnic nation that produced the likes of Azikiwe, Chinua Achebe, prof.chike obi, Alvan ikoku etc will allow themselves to be used by PDP to destabilize Buhari regime.
Who signed his bail? A PDP senator.
Why are Fayose and FFK close to him? PDP connection.
What a shame,
Now war is looming,
Are the Ijaws whom who voted for their son going to join you guys in Biafra?NO
what about other minorities in south south? NO.
They simply don't want Biafra, stop hiding your pain of rejection under the veil of "Referendum Noise!
..
I am a very Proud Igbo guy, it pains me to see how Nnamdi kanu is leading these brainwashed youth into cause another Anti-Igbo progrom that may likely claim lives and destroy Igbo hard earned investments all over Nigeria!
NDIGBO IBE M, Gee Nti,
Igbo Land is not ready for seccession now neither are the Igbos ready for another war.
Lets not allow emotion to get the better of us.
South South want a Restructured Nigeria, why not partner with them and fight for Restructuring?
Instead of having a fake hope that we are in a solidarity with these minorities for a Biafra.
Let us apply wisdom, Nnamdi kanu does not have a single property in Nigeria but his ill thought adventure want to put Igbo lives and properties in danger.
Thank you.

Udmaster:
Can they move on from the election defeat of Goodlucj jonathan? NO!
These Bunch of brainwashed Igbo guys were the one shouting "GEJ till 2019" in 2015 general election but when GEJ lost, Nnamdi kanu preyed on their emotional nature and brainwashed them into thinking that Minorities in south south will join them in Biafra.
.
Why did these ipob noise accelerate after Buhari victory in 2015? and
If Nigeria expired in 2014, was GEJ not the president then, why disturbing Buhari?
It pains me so well that youths from an ethnic nation that produced the likes of Azikiwe, Chinua Achebe, prof.chike obi, Alvan ikoku etc will allow themselves to be used by PDP to destabilize Buhari regime.
Who signed his bail? A PDP senator.
Why are Fayose and FFK close to him? PDP connection.
What a shame,
Now war is looming,
Are the Ijaws whom who voted for their son going to join you guys in Biafra?NO
what about other minorities in south south? NO.
They simply don't want Biafra, stop hiding your pain of rejection under the veil of "Referendum Noise!
..
I am a very Proud Igbo guy, it pains me to see how Nnamdi kanu is leading these brainwashed youth into cause another Anti-Igbo progrom that may likely claim lives and destroy Igbo hard earned investments all over Nigeria!
NDIGBO IBE M, Gee Nti,
Igbo Land is not ready for seccession now neither are the Igbos ready for another war.
Lets not allow emotion to get the better of us.
South South want a Restructured Nigeria, why not partner with them and fight for Restructuring?
Instead of having a fake hope that we are in a solidarity with these minorities for a Biafra.
Let us apply wisdom, Nnamdi kanu does not have a single property in Nigeria but his ill thought adventure want to put Igbo lives and properties in danger.
Thank you.

YorubaForum:
Afonjas right now will be viewing this thread through the fence like

GavelSlam:


Hausa envious of Igbo.

Yoruba envious of Igbo.

Ijaw envious of Igbo.

South Africans envious of Igbo.

Malaysians envious of Igbo.

The whole world envious of Igbo.

Please tell yourself the truth, something is fundamentally wrong.

ODVanguard:


Who are the 'we'? Guy, fvck off my mention. You igbo people are the ones moving en masse to our 'brown roof' cities for survival, coz obviously your supposed eldorados are nothing but hype, lack a big enough market, and are generally not economically viable. #Fact. Who wouldn't? Afterall, you lots only visit home during festivities, while spending the remainder of your time in our brown-roof region, which is home to the highest concentration of industries in the entire country (Lagos and Ogun especially: http://businessdayonline.com/2015/02/ogun-ikeja-top-manufacturers-investment-destinations-in-2014/ ).

We still attract the bulk of the FDI that comes into the country: http://punchng.com/ogun-attracts-75-fdi-into-nigeria-uk-envoy/

Euromonitor rated Ibadan to be amongst the top 10 fastest growing cities in Africa: http://blog.euromonitor.com/2016/08/top-10-sub-saharan-cities-consumer-spending-growth-2030.html -- no single SE city featured on the list.

The same Ibadan is a more developed, versatile and complete city than any city in the entire SE. It has 3 Cinemaplexes at three separate locations, countless shopping malls and hotels (was adjuded by hotels coy Jovago as having the 3rd highest number of hotels in Nigeria, behind Lagos and Abuja, and fourth highest number of 5-star hotels in Nigeria, behind Lagos, Abuja, and PH), and a host of other renowned international brands like Dominos, ColdStone, KFC, (these can only be found in Lagos and ABJ), e.t.c. Till today, no single SE and SS hosts a skyscraper the height of Cocoa house. Up till today!

We are home to the highest number of and the most vibrant Higher institutions (both private and public) in the entire country. #Fact

Ogun is home to more ultra-modern architectures than anywhere in the entire SE, and is home to Africa's largest housing estate of 15,000 housing units at Canaan-city. #Fact



We still retain the highest enrollment figures AND acceptance rates for JAMB in the country (https://www.nairaland.com/3709501/see-jamb-applications-geopolitical-regions ). #Fact.

It's not our fault that your collective bitterness and inferiority complex as a people drives you to highlight the old settlement parts of some of our cities as a way of deluding yourselves into some false sense of superiority . But alas, it's not up to you to decide who's the more developed between our peoples, and you certainly won't achieve that by continually displaying pictures of brown-roofs every chance you get on these pages. The indices and factors (some of which I mentioned above) will be the judge of that, thank you. In a nutshell, we'll always be your bosses . The difference between us is just that it's not in our nature to toot our own horns. Besides, like they say, 'empty vessels make the loudest noise'.

Below are sample aerial shots YOU REFUSE TO SEE, of our own cities. This is not in anyway meant to counter your jaundiced and hateful propaganda about us and our cities (you're free to see and believe what you want), no, rather it's meant to buttress my earlier point that you are a dishonest and evil lot whose false propaganda to disparage us will always be dead on arrival in the face of facts. Now choke on that.

1. Aerial shots of Park Inn by Radisson Hotels Abeokuta and environs
2. An Abeokuta surburb
3. Aerial shot of another part of Ibadan
4. Another aerial shots of other parts of Ibadan

Chiefobdk1:

Yes still here to pummel sense into ur thick empty afonja skull

slash112:
Am still wait wat binta we say

Tyche:
These kids have no conviction whatsoever about what they are doing. Dragging them out to protest is stupid

Matthew4sure:
you see Nnamdi KANU will be say Yoruba coward Yoruba idiot when he sit down talk rubbish against Yoruba now Yoruba now fighting for your release selfish Igbo people.