livingstoneony: #blacks we is.

somali/ethiopians and eritreans are not black (negroid), our language is not niger-congo

ancient egyptiana were white, no negro can build a pyramid because they are lazy.


Ancient egypt is white. Why are negroids talking about ancient egypt everytime

Adamskuty: shaaaaarap! U pig, thank God i'm not bantu,illiterate,i'm gonna tear all those charcants apart i will create multiple accounts

lmaooo! He's scared,trying 2 discourage me from opening an account by telling me lies

i single handedly destroyed 100 somalis at once in a group on fb called "all the africans" y'all ain't good with words,sorry charcant! It came to an instant the girls started adding me up begging me to stop,lmaoo!

go ahead: Plz tell us ur experience. Give me a link to the fb battle u had, cause somalia have a way with words, and we dont care what u are, we see all u guys as bantu, we use bantu/adoon,jareer to describe non horners

Drake and East African Girls


I am an East African Girl. A couple years ago, one of my friends told me that being an East African meant I’m not really black. A visibly mixed-race girl with a “high yellow” complexion and sandy brown hair telling me I’m not black didn’t sit well with me. I wanted to tell the girl, in the words of CB4, I’m black y’all. I’m black like the back of Forrest Whitaker’s neck. I’m black like Snoop Dogg’s lungs. I’m black like some Helvetica font against a white backdrop trying to sell you stuff.




Back in the day, white people went to East Africa to find Iman, their acceptable black girl. When white people did this, former Essence Editor-in-Chief Marcia Gillespie called East African model Iman Abdulmajid “a white woman dipped in chocolate,” highlighting Iman’s acceptable blackness while also lamenting the fact that black women’s beauty is often measured in their proximity to whiteness.


Two decades later, Bill Cosby in his “Ask the Ethiopian” speech said African Americans should aim higher than menial jobs because menial jobs are for “Ethiopians,” i.e. immigrants, i.e. The Other. Marcia and Bill emphasized the otherness of East Africans like we’re not black, too, which is why I’d like to tell Bill: please let us, East Africans, have all the menial jobs. But in accordance with Marcia Gillepsie’s criticism, make sure those shitty jobs aren’t jobs where the way we look will inspire racists to pat us on the back and deem us more respectable or better than other black people. This is what the fashion industry notably did this with Iman.



East African Girls, Iman included, take part in a system that marginalizes and limits other forms of aesthetic blackness. Every image of Iman or Yasmine Warsame or Liya Kebede reinscribes white beauty through black beauty. Reinscribing white beauty through black beauty has always been with us, but in recent years it has inspired rappers to reference East African Girls like we’re the 49th Law of Power, predictably denigrating black women who lack acceptable blackness in the same tired ways.



The first rapper I remember rhyming about East African Girls was Nas. In “The Set Up,” a song from Nas’ “It Was Written” album, Nas raps, “They thought the hoes were Somalian.” The “hoes” in question are “two fly bitches, Venus and Vicious.” On his latest album, “Life Is Good,” Nas references East African Girls again, in a party song called “Summer” ft. Miguel and Swizz Beats.
East African Girls have been referenced in several other songs: Wale’s “No One Be Like You” (“Somalian women, Ethiopian queens/Never could tell the difference, I just know that you mean”) and “Hold Yuh Remix” (“I’m lookin’ for an Ethi-Somali here beside me”); Tinie Tempeh’s remix of Drake’s “The Motto” (“My bitch booty bigger than a fucking Eritrean”); Common’s “Celebrate” (“Exotic broads lobbyin’/Spanish, Somalian”); Drake’s “Where To Now” and Kendrick Lamar’s “Poetic Justice” ft. Drake.



In “Where To Now,” a track off Homecoming Season, Drake’s second mixtape, Drake spits sweet nothings about an East African Girl, over a J. Dilla beat. Drake desires the East African Girl (perhaps as much as he desires getting ghost head from Aaliyah): “Ethiopian girl, Ethiopian girl, with yo long curly hair and yo big ass bootay.”

In “Poetic Justice” by Kendrick Lamar ft. Drake, Drake does it again: “I was trying to put you on game, put you on a plane/Take you and your mama to the motherland/I could do it, maybe one day/When you figure out you’re gonna need someone/When you figure out it’s all right here in the city/And you don’t run from where we come from.” But couched between another lazy description of a faceless, nameless East African Girl, and Drake’s assertion that East African Girl is busy ignoring him for another man, is a story of afrodiasporic identity, which is what sets Drake apart, narratively, from other rappers.
While Drake’s definition of black beauty may seem limited, his definition of black identity is what Touré would call post-black, and Michelle Wright would call postwar diasporic black. Drake’s flow in “Poetic Justice” facilitates a broader discussion of black identity and black authenticity, a discussion that implicitly critiques Marcia Gillespie’s “white woman dipped in chocolate” statement, positing that East African Girls “come from” the same city Drake does, Toronto. The underlying message is Drake considers us black like him. Drake, as a black Jewish man whose Degrassi character Jimmy Brooks dated a fake East African Girl, occupies a similarly hybrid space like East African Girls. For many East African Girls, that feels like poetic justice because the definition of ‘authentically black’— descendants of Africans brought here as slaves— is a limited definition that doesn’t even include Barack Obama, much less East African Girls.




When one does a cursory Twitter search of Drake’s “East African Girl” lyrics, fetishistic things are tweeted by Drake fans, most notably East African Girls themselves. “Poetic Justice” functions, on some level, as a false empowerment anthem, a Song For East African Girls. There is a pleasure many East African Girls I know derive from hearing men, particularly Drake, talk about us to a larger supposedly authentically black population. A pleasure teenage me would no doubt indulge in, too. It’s a reiteration of our own myth that when God created humanity, he started with the Somalis, Ethiopians and Eritreans first— borne out of us is whiteness and blackness. It’s unscientific but when you’re a teenage girl, especially a young East African Girl, there’s no science needed to justify supremacy or fetish and where those two things interplay.
East African girls are generally not mixed race, yet this idea that we are is deeply embedded in the minds of white racialists, leading some to believe we’re an entirely different, special, exotic breed of people. This goes back to the pseudoscience of Carleton S. Coon’s “The Races of Europe.” Anthropologists and white racialists, which are often one in the same, have been claiming we are of majority Arab or white or “Afro-Asiatic” descent for years. And while that isn’t the sentiment of Drake or Nas lyrics, our alleged mixedness underpins their lyrics by virtue of the sheer selectiveness of the East African Girls shouted out in hip-hop lyrics. When Drake or Nas reference East African Girls, it can be easily inferred that they mean Cushites representing the Horn of Africa (Ethiopia, Eritrea and Somalia).


"Cushite,” a term derived from “Cush” of the Hebrew Bible and Quran, is in reference to our shared “Afro-Asiatic” language classification, which is often mistakenly typified as a shared racial identity. This little mistake triggers a big mistake: the conflation of biology and genetics with race and ethnicity as a social fact, which reifies the racial categories.
One of the most popular threads on Niketalk.com, a sneakerhead forum, is called, “African Women Appreciation Thread: ‘Young East African Girl/Thoroughbreds.” A commenter in the forum who goes by Macc E-Money claims he was deprived of “beautiful African women,” and wasn’t able to procure a Somali “thoroughbred” until he left his home state of Michigan. Macc E-Money references Drake’s “Young East African Girl” lyric, presenting black beauty in a limited way and privileging East Africans over other Africans while passing it off as an appreciation of African beauty.



The lines between acceptance, fetishism and exoticism are blurry. It would seem that the primary distinction between black (North American) men, East African men and white men exoticizing East African Girls is that for many white men and even some East African men, the exoticism is firmly rooted in a belief in the racial categories—a belief that race is biological when it is in fact social, and a fetishization and romanticism of our Arab World ties and colonial past. For a lot of black men like Drake, it’s way less insidious. At best, it’s a misguided reinscription of the white standard of beauty through acceptably black women. At worst it’s intra-racial discrimination. Usually, it’s a combination of all these things but if representing, hyping and esteeming women with acceptable blackness is good for all girls—Trickle Down Acceptability, if you will— then we’d probably live in a post-racial world where fairies and dragons and Tupac populated the earth.
Sadly, we live in a racist, sexist world where black men and white people can hurt black women in the same ways. Black women hurt black women, too, but differently: we don’t have each other’s back. Those that see themselves represented in the lyrics and the videos, accept it without questioning it. And those who lament the overrepresentation of East African Girls, frequently fail to realize that the “Young East African Girl(s)” of Drake’s lyrics are like all women of color; they are objectified and male-gazed upon in hip-hop. These women are mythic, “exotic” generalized by rappers as the ambASSadors of their ethnicity or nationality. We are an idea rooted in a scant and skewed example— a token— from Drake’s own lived experience, mixed in with a little bit of mainstream imagery and a history that isn’t even our own.



Perhaps my own cousin, Leyla who Drake once bought lunch for, is Drake’s East African Girl. Maybe his East African Girl is my friend, Ayan that Drake met while clubbing. Maybe his East African Girl is like Helen Gedlu or Lola Monroe. Drake’s East African girl, whoever she is, does not account for of all of us. Our varied hip-to-waist ratios and hair textures and booties (or lack thereof) and cultures make us more nuanced than whatever Drake or anyone else needs to believe.


The overepresentation of East African Girls cannot be separated from broader media representations of acceptable blackness. Broader representations that, in the 90s, brought us acceptable black women like Tatyana Ali, Stacey Dash, Chilly of TLC, etc.; the biggest face being Scandal’s Kerry Washington. It’s no wonder Kendrick Lamar believes there is a balance issue. Kendrick cast Brittany Sky, a black woman, as his love interest in the video for “Poetic Justice.”


Brittany Sky is a black woman who is neither East African or light-skinned, however she is every bit as acceptably black as Iman. It’s Drake’s love interest—or rather, sex interest— who is actually balancing representation. But she is who Drake is having sexually for that night, not who, as the video and the lyrics suggest, Drake wants; Drake wants the East African Girl he’s talking to on the phone. Drake is talking on the phone with the East African Girl while his sex interest is splayed across the bed, naked. Thus, even within the video there is a hierarchy. There’s a specific depersonalization and objecthood of the non-acceptable black woman’s body. The non-acceptable black woman is granted zero agency, and rendered the least desirable in a video that is supposedly progressive.
There is nothing progressive about acceptable blackness. There is, however, something progressive about Drake and the internal conversation he seems to be having in his music. When Drake raps about this East African Girl as he is talking to this East African Girl on the phone, he is also talking with other black people. He is having a conversation with Marcia Gillepsie and Bill Cosby and me and that girl I used to be friends with who said I wasn’t black. This conversation requires context that can’t be reproduced for an American audience with a limited knowledge of the nuances of blackness. This conversation cannot translate externally, hence the phone. The video begs for the consistency of our transmuted presence but the direct presence of an East African Girl wouldn’t make sense to an audience that doesn’t understand Drake’s specific location in the diaspora, what diaspora is, or who East Africans are.

Adamskuty: see,how can one open a somaliland account? I swear that website is crap,i only saw log in(to ur account) no place to SIGN UP ?

no such thing as somaliland. You mean somalinet.com?

Good luck, they will tear you apart. The moderators over there will sniff you out, anything that isnt pro somali and anti bantu will be deleted, all comments are viewed before posting.
That place is not like the wild jungle like nairaland.

no1madman: Miss Somalia African Beauty pregnant in USA 2013. . .

Pregnant? ur a madman.

Adamskuty: fixed

Am disapointed in you my negro

Adamskuty: sometimes i feel like giving u a heavy slap ayanle,tell me a lil bit about urself

My name is -----------
i live in ----------
I eat --------
am muslim

Adamskuty: total crap! what history?? u guys got no history other than the east african slave trade,what have u pigs contributed to the modern world? Nothing!

Lool@somali has a state in kenya,what a dullard, u should have said somali ethnic group is present in kenya as well (minority) and 99% are poor starving refugees ooh sorry .

For ur information.nigeria got the 3 major ethnic group which is among the largest if not the largest in africa,the yoruba people of the southwest are present in benin republic as well,fulanis are all over westafrica and nigeria got the largest number of fulanis (thrice larger than other other country) hausa's are present in niger republic as well.

Somalis are 29miilion worldwide! U pig,u don't even know the population of ur kind,lmaooo! Years of been in u.s.a as a refugee,leme ask u a simple question,have u ever steped foot in ur zoo? If no. Then u must be ashamed of where u come from! Sorry oh

northern kenya is NFD and has its own representatives in parliament

Adamskuty: stupid maggot eating swine,somalis are 37milliom world wide (ethnicity) nigeria is a country,rotten starving he-boon with ostrich neck,i compared u dead useless ethnic group with igbo ethnic group of 30milliom worldwide.. U people are pigs and modern slaves

somalis are 25 million, where do u get ur facts. Somali is one of the largest ethnicities in africa and the only one with its own country, and it controlls somalia and djibouti and has a state in kenya and ethiopia


dont get me started on our history

PAPA AFRICA: more excuses, i remember you seeing some study that says Somalis are 50% white 50% black and Ethiopians are 75% white and you were so happy talking about how your mother would tell you how somali's male ancestor came from Yemen or some shit. every time you get down on your knees and raise your two hands you've submitted to your arab master.

i said the dna is shared between arabs and somalis: not that we are arabs


87 percent of muslims are not arabs, many people who you refer to as arabs arent even southern arabian in origin, arab today is a culture and the largest arab country is Egypt

Nigeria is 170 million, somalis are 20 million

papa africa? lmao



africa is used by u ugly mofos, it has no meaning in somalia, ethiopia or north africa


keep the aids, to urself

somalia needs to leave african union before we get aids

idioot am not justifying shid, but responding to him.

How can somalis be slaves when arabs are the ones dying in somalia. we have our own language. No one is justyfing being closer to arabs, its a just a fact that somalia is right next to the middle east. there are 2 million somalis in the middle east 1 million in yemen alone

if they need to be cleansed let them to somalia, we shall clense their slave mentality, they will go on a tour of southern somalia where they will work in the fields of somalia. after all you dont know where u going unless u know where u come from

MamiWata:

Hilarious. Somalis have been unwilling slaves to Arabs for millenia and you continue to be their willing slaves by propagating their religion and barbaric mistreatment of women. Your fixation with real Africans is hilarious.

Lmao, somalia used arabs and turks against portugese, bantus, and ethiopians. 87 percent of muslims are not arab.


Arab is a culture not a race, and somalia is part of the arab league,

the somali language is part of the same family group as arabic. go read a book

^ lmao, nigeria has 170 million people, the largest in africa: those stats are conpatible with a large population.

It does not change that you have no historical impact to the world other than picking cotton.

419forlife:

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somalis are not slaves. unlike u negroids. Your self obsession for non negroids disgusts me

Adamskuty: confused pig,bantu are those people that live in central,east and southafrica,u can call them slaves or nappy head whatever,it's them u are refering to,stop forcing us into bantus .

U don't even know anything,all people who are negriod,u are negriod,so whatcha saying? Cos it seems u are high on weed or something,u people are called somali because it's ur ethnicity,same with bantus,it's their ethnicity.. (ethnic group) same with fulanis it's their ethnicity!

I will prefer u call us ur westafrican lord or something or i might invent a terrible word for u guys and spread it all across the net,oooh! Charcant will be good

bantu is a language group- niger congo A and niger congo B aka bantu

Stop using african All those things are done by negroids


Somalis, Ethiopians, Erireans and north africans dont do that stuff


which proves my point that negroids are not smart

Adamskuty: loool! Rabbit,longtime no see u need to visit the gym one of these days,lol

Mr fufu be quiet

Adamskuty: point of correction,i'm not a bantu,bantu originated from eastern and western cameroon,some claimed they actually originated from sudan,they are presently in central africa,east and southern africa! We the present dwellers of west africa actually chased the bantus from our domain! Pls try educating ur fellow somalis about that,westafrican ain't bantus,we are a mixture of different people! Cheers mah boy !

After saying that,i think i will be the first westafrican to survive in somaliland,i'm gonna be the greatest troll of all time

bantu is used by somalia as like a race, all people who are negroid. The other words are much more racist like adoon and jareer which mean slave and nappy head

Adamskuty: So ayanle before u go,i have being thinking of trolling on ur somalinet or somaliland one of these days,watcha say 'bout that boy?

go for it, somalinet is not for the fain of heart, no bantu has lasted there

olumidaie:
do not mind the miscreant. Maybe he doesn't his country Somalia is the worst place to live in. It has the worst economy and a failed government. If I post pictures about that country, you would be moved to tears; but seeing representatives of that ZOO like this one, and those on somaliland/somalinet, I don't give a damn.




DELUDED ARAB-WANNABE.

just cause am muslim doesnt mean am an arab wanabe, cause half of nigeria is muslim which is 80 million people.

PAPA AFRICA: if this is true

careful now

My time here has been great, and i believe you will be missed as i have come to educate you on so many issues. Good bye.


Somalia sends its regards to the Fufu nation

Then we will have a big party

Adamskuty: somali negriods charcant "olodos" need weaves whenever they feel like not putting on a headscarf,they use the weave to cover their real hair in the absence of a head scarf or hijab. The somali she-boons i have met so far make use of hair extension

remember this negro=black.. Charcant=charcoal(somalis) negriods=charcant=charcoal=somalisiiiiin

lmao, clearly projecting what negroid women go through i see

Adamskuty: long soft hairs indeed! 90% of ur sypillis infested kind got short hairs and mostly make use of extension. And pls don't call them women,they are men in women's clothing. Lmfaooooo! All of y'all are gays,men banging men thinking they are women

lmao, self projecting, why do somali women need weaves when they cover up their hair? And everythin u just said is true of negroids.

Adamskuty: look at this deranged mofo that reason through the anus,u even got the audacity to quote me,ur mister!! This is serious..
U are the one self projecting here,which other race got such kind of disgusting looks,ur women tall like a pole,just flat,no single bumps. Those are men features,when have men start having b00b$ and big azz,even some caucasian that lack some of these features envy blacks and will even go get a butt implant.

All women wear hats sometimes,women with short hairs,even ur women with short hairs wear hats,our women got long hairs too but sometimes they are too lazy to take care of their fragile hair and will prefer to put on a weave...

All somali women with short hairs put on hair extention as well,very true, deny and see

lmao. Somali women have long soft hair, and 99 percent of somali women cover their hair