Ohyoudidnt:


Indeed your concept of who Allah or God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is where the problem is.

Allah doesn't consider anyone in the light of sonship even if it is spiritual.
The Jews definition of sonship in symbolic not as you Christians or let's say Tenq places Jesus as they have no agreement with you that Jesus was with Allah from the onset and participating in creation.

Fundamental we have different theological thoughts and it's best we respectfully live it at that.

Have a good day.

Ohyoudidnt:


How do you read?

Ohyoudidnt:


Is the emboldened contradictory?



You are making a statement not a question isn't it?

Then you placed Auliya (plural for Wali) in what position relative to Khalilulah?

Ohyoudidnt:

Ohyoudidnt:


Interesting. You don't believe the Sahih Muslim 532 you shared?

Prophet Muhammad pbuh is often referred to as Habibullah (the Beloved of Allah). While khalil implies deep friendship, habib denotes the most beloved relationship.

Bilal ibn Rabah r.a is highly regarded by Allah as one of the first Muslims, representing resilience and being a companion assured of Paradise. His life is a powerful testament to how steadfast faith and dedication can uplift an individual both in this life and in the Hereafter.


O Bilal, I heard your footsteps in Paradise ahead of me."(Sahih al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)
This incredible honor reflects Bilal’s exalted status with Allah due to his acts of worship, particularly his consistent habit of performing voluntary prayers after ablution.

Ohyoudidnt:


How do you become a friend of Allah?

Ohyoudidnt:

By doing what he wants. It is not a sudden destination but a continuous process.
It is by the will of Allah however Ibrahim a s actively worked for this in submission not with the set goal of becoming a Khalil. This is a major plus.

I had answered you that the friendship was both physical and spiritual.

I didn't say synonyms but they are stages of friendship. One is higher than the other.

Ohyoudidnt:


You seem to like repetition. Did I not agree that Muhammad pbuh is a Khalil by your second hadith? The issue of sonshhip is total contradiction to the nature if Allah.

WriterNig:

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gaskiyamagana:

I agree with you and l pity those who don't agree with you that Islam has no answer to 'its conjectures' out of your convulsive state and corrosive reasoning, thinking and conclusion.

Ohyoudidnt:


1. You are confusing yourself. Did Abraham became Khalil without being a Wali?

2. Are you sure? One is a higher level like Field marshal in the army and the other maybe a general?

3. You are confused I think. The Quran doesn't refer to prophet Muhammad pbuh as Khalil buy an authentic Sahih Muslim does.

Ohyoudidnt:

Ibrahim exhibited obedient dedication , sincerity and steadfastness.
We all have free will and can strive to the highest state. Indeed we are encouraged to compete in acts of worship and piety.

Ohyoudidnt:

The Quran was revealed long after Abraham. Which book was given to Abraham?

You shared two hadith and despite seeing mawdu with one you figured it useful to your argument and presented it yet you blame me?

Ohyoudidnt:

No this does not suggest that Allah requires His creation. Instead, it showcases Allah's attributes of mercy and forgiveness, as well as His intention to express those qualities for the welfare of His creation.

Ohyoudidnt:

The terms Khalil (intimate friend) and Wali (protector, ally, or close friend) both refer to close relationships, yet they have unique meanings and nuances in Islamic theology.

Khalil signifies a deep, unparalleled friendship, reserved for a select few individuals, such as Ibrahim a.s and Muhammad pbuh. In contrast, Wali is a broader term that includes anyone who attains piety and devotion, making it accessible to all believers.

Sadly you could not end without inserting insult as you like. I am not in any competition with you for any reason so what is the need to address me with your closing paragraph?

Ohyoudidnt:


Do your study please.

Ohyoudidnt:


Let's leave this study to you.

Ohyoudidnt:


Not fully.

ceejay80s:


don't mind Dem, that gecko still look fresh, if it was from factory, u will know, it's eith the whole pack will be smelling or it dried in the pack , even cockroach wey dey after a day or smells, let alone gecko with blood and flesh

Ohyoudidnt:


Awliyah refers to the friends or allies of Allah who are recognized for their piety, whereas Kalilullah specifically identifies Ibrahim as the friend of Allah. This title symbolizes a close relationship with the Divine, marked by steadfast faith.

In Islamic thought, the term “Awliya” denotes the friends or allies of Allah, distinguished by their piety and closeness to Him. Although many individuals can achieve the status of Awliya through their righteous actions and devotion, Khalilullah signifies a higher level because of the exceptional nature of his relationship with Allah.

Friendships are defined by emotional connections and need ongoing effort to maintain. In contrast, allies come together for shared objectives and may not need personal ties. The number of friendships is often restricted by cognitive limits (known as Dunbar’s Number), whereas alliances can be broad without these restrictions.

Over thinking the above can cause misunderstanding however allies and friends are quite similar on certain points. The relationship between allies is more utilitarian; it focuses on collaboration towards shared goals rather than emotional attachment. Allies may not have a personal bond but are more united in their objectives.

Ohyoudidnt:

You first start with a fabricated hadith then the other however you fail to understand that the primary book for Muslims doesn't describe prophet Muhammad pbuh in this way.

The Qur'an presents the Prophet Muhammad pbuh in various ways, emphasizing his role as the final messenger, a mercy for all beings, and a guiding example for the faithful:

"Indeed, you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent example for anyone who hopes in Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah often."Quran 33:21

Hadith literature enhances the understanding of the Qur'an by offering deeper insights into the life and significance of the Prophet pbuh. Sahih Muslim 532 is considered authentic in its context and highlights the Prophet's pbuh esteemed position, which is consistent with the overarching themes of Islamic theology. The term "Khalil" underscores his intimate relationship with Allah, yet it does not conflict with the Qur'anic message; it merely lacks explicit confirmation in those precise words.

Ohyoudidnt:

The concept of Allah's independence and self-sufficiency is central to Islamic belief. He is known as As-Samad (The Self-Sufficient), and His essence and majesty remain unchanged regardless of the worship or disobedience of His creation. Even if humans and jinn chose not to worship Allah, the following truths hold true:

1. Allah Remains Unaffected
Allah does not need worship to uphold His sovereignty or power. The Quran confirms this.
If you disbelieve, indeed, Allah is Free of need of you. And He does not approve for His servants disbelief. And if you are grateful, He approves it for you." (Quran 39:7)
This emphasizes that human and jinn worship is for their own benefit, not for Allah's.

2.The Purpose of Creation is Unfulfilled
Allah created humans and jinn with a specific purpose: "And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me." (Quran 51:56) If they neglect this worship, they fail to achieve their purpose, resulting in their own loss, not Allah's.

3. Consequences for Disobedience
Allah has established clear consequences for those who choose to turn away from His worship.

They will face punishment in the Hereafter for neglecting their purpose and disobeying Him: "Indeed, those who disbelieve will be told, 'The hatred of Allah for you was greater than your hatred of yourselves [this Day] when you were invited to faith, but you refused.'" (Quran 40:10)

They will experience a life filled with emptiness and dissatisfaction in this world: "And whoever turns away from my recollection, he will indeed lead a life filled with despair." (Quran 20:124)

4. The Benefits of Worship for the Worshiper
Worship is not a burden; rather, it serves as a pathway for both humans and jinn to find spiritual peace, guidance, and closeness to Allah. It helps them align with the universe's natural order, where all of creation praises Allah:
"The seven heavens and the earth and all that is in them glorify Him. There is nothing that does not exalt Allah by His praise, but you do not comprehend their way of glorifying." (Quran 17:44)

5. Allah’s Infinite Ability to Replace
Even if all of humanity and jinn were to reject faith, it would not lessen Allah's greatness. He has the power to replace them with others who will worship Him:
"If He wishes, He can eliminate you, O people, and bring forth others in your place. And Allah is capable of all things." (Quran 4:133)

6. Allah’s Mercy and Patience
Despite the disobedience of humans and jinn, Allah continues to offer His mercy and sustenance, providing them with chances to repent:
"And your Lord is the Forgiving, Full of Mercy. If He were to hold them accountable for their actions, He would have hastened their punishment." (Quran 18:58)

When humans and jinn decide not to worship Allah, they only bring harm upon themselves. Allah’s majesty remains intact, and His divine plan proceeds without interruption. Worship is a blessing and a chance for the created to connect with their Creator, grow spiritually, and achieve everlasting success.

Ohyoudidnt:

To analyze the apparent contradiction in Russia’s support for United Nations Security Council (UNSC) sanctions against North Korea while maintaining a friendly relationship with Kim Jong-un, we must consider several factors: geopolitical interests, historical context, and the dynamics of international relations.
While Russia keeps diplomatic ties with North Korea, it has also been working to strengthen its relationships with South Korea and other nations in East Asia.
Economic sanctions can greatly impact trade relationships. By occasionally supporting sanctions, Russia may be trying to use its influence to negotiate better terms or concessions from both North Korea and other involved countries.

Although there seems to be a contradiction between backing UNSC sanctions against North Korea and fostering friendly relations with Kim Jong-un, these actions can be understood within the larger framework of geopolitical strategy and diplomatic engagement.

Allah's allies may experience fluctuations in belief being human and as a result of their reactions to travails and tests but ultimately they return back and Allah is most forgiveness and merciful.

Ohyoudidnt:

Allah calls Ibrahim (Abraham) Khalilulah not the other way round.

The preference can only be by piety which even the 'pious' struggles (does jihad) to attain, maintain and improve.

Ohyoudidnt:


I didn't change the question but ask you a question so you can answer what you asked yourself.

Ohyoudidnt:


You don't deny his humanity good. What about who you have known as Melchizedek?

Was your spirit in existence before you were born or conceived in your mother's womb?

Ohyoudidnt:


Do you also deny that Jesus was physically and biologically born from Mary?

I will answer your other responses later.

Ohyoudidnt:


Do you deny that the physical and spiritual sonship of Jesus to God is a key element in Christian theology? Highlighting both his unique divine nature and the relational connection he has with believers through faith.
In contrast, Judaism interprets sonship mainly in terms of collective identity and the covenantal relationship, without any suggestion of divinity linked to individual figures.

Ohyoudidnt:

The term Awliyah (the plural of Wali) in Arabic means “friends” or “allies.” In an Islamic context, it refers to those individuals who are regarded as close to Allah because of their piety, righteousness, and devotion.

Ohyoudidnt:

Awliyah signifies the friends or allies of Allah known for their piety, while Kalilullah specifically refers to Ibrahim as the friend of Allah, representing a close relationship with the Divine marked by steadfast faith. Please show where you have prophet Muhammad pbuh referred to with the title kalilulah.

Ohyoudidnt:

Quran 51:56 highlights a key principle of Islamic belief about the purpose of human existence, emphasizing that Allah does not require worship. Rather, it illustrates how worship serves humanity by nurturing a connection with the Creator and steering individuals toward moral and spiritual growth.

Ohyoudidnt:

Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin are indeed allies who share a friendship rooted in historical ties and contemporary geopolitical strategies. Their interactions reflect not only personal camaraderie but also a calculated approach to enhance their respective positions on the global stage

Ohyoudidnt:

You play dumb to the fact that some homes exist on a principle that if I do or don't this I will be punished or [b]deprived [/b]of certain things.

Ohyoudidnt:


There you throw straws around again.

Particularly where do you put the inheritance rights?

You have been told before that Allah is the Creator of everything and relies on no one. The idea of having divine or physical offspring suggests a form of dependency or need, which goes against His complete self-sufficiency.

Ohyoudidnt:

Worshipping Allah and forming a friendship with Him (wali) is quite different from the idea of being His child. In Islam, the bond between Allah and those who sincerely worship him is special, highlighting both humility and intimacy. While some faiths refer to believers as "children of God," Islam describes this divine connection through worship and spiritual friendship (wilayah).

Ohyoudidnt:

Worship in Islam goes beyond mere rituals; it involves complete submission, love, and devotion to Allah. This fosters a deep connection without undermining Allah’s greatness. Allah states:

"And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me" (51:56).
Through worship, believers recognize Allah’s supreme authority, mercy, and love, which transforms their lives and draws them closer to Him.

A friend or ally of Allah is someone who aligns their life with Allah's guidance and receives divine support and protection. The Quran mentions:

"Unquestionably, for the allies (awliya) of Allah, there will be no fear concerning them, nor will they grieve. They are those who believed and were conscious of Allah" (10:62-63).

In Islam, the act of worshipping Allah and seeking to become His friend embodies a profound relationship characterized by love, trust, and closeness that goes beyond the human concept of being a child of God. This bond is devoid of anthropomorphic traits and highlights the believer’s humility and dedication. Unlike the notion of being a child, which suggests a sense of entitlement, friendship with Allah is something that must be earned and is accessible to all, irrespective of their background, through genuine worship and righteousness.

Ohyoudidnt:

Luke 19:41-44 may serve as scriptural support for viewing the destruction as punishment for rejecting Jesus, claiming a direct link between this event and subsequent settlement patterns requires more detailed historical analysis. It also brings questions about how freely the Christian God by you who gives his blessings as it implies a kind of blackmail or force.

There is no explicit mention in historical texts linking Luke 19:41-44 directly to the 70AD expulsion or are you doing your strawman argument now?

Ohyoudidnt:


When you like scattering straws to litter the space😁

Do you not the sonshhip of Jesus to God is of biological nature?

In the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh), the term for son is בֵּן (ben), which denotes not only biological relationships but also a deeper spiritual connection. In ancient Israelite culture, being a son often implied inheritance rights, authority, and a special relationship with God.

2 Samuel 7:14 speaks directly about God’s covenant with David: “I will be his father, and he shall be My son.” This establishes a familial relationship between God and David’s lineage.

Ohyoudidnt:

So?

Who is created as a slave and in what context do you mean this?

Ohyoudidnt:


And who is better in faith than those who ˹fully˺ submit themselves to Allah, do good, and follow the Way of Abraham, the upright? Allah chose Abraham as a close friend.

Ohyoudidnt:

The verse is a rebuttal to Israelites who accord special status to themselves as 'children of God'

Ohyoudidnt:

Many historians argue that the expulsion of Jews in 70AD should be understood within its socio-political context rather than solely as divine retribution. Do you have scripture stating it was punishment and on their expulsion did they move to Arabia specifically?

Is it essentially punishment when lands experience droughts or become barren?

gaskiyamagana:

I misunderstand that simple straightforward statement in English of Psalms 137:9; but how come you are master of Quranic verses? Hypocrite per excellent!

Ohyoudidnt:


I don't understand how our interactions are disrespectful and not cordial.

Allah is the Creator of everything and relies on no one. The idea of having divine or physical offspring suggests a form of dependency or need, which goes against His complete self-sufficiency.

Ohyoudidnt:

I have explained that the question is rhetoric showing there's no preference of one tribe over the other as all creation is accountable.
Also there is no conclusive evidence or agreement that all Jews in Arabia during the time of Prophet Muhammad faced punishment from YHWH.

Ohyoudidnt:


You don't understand the rhetoric. This challenges the mistaken belief that simply being part of a faith or having a certain lineage ensures Allah’s favor. It highlights that Allah’s justice applies to everyone, and each individual is responsible for their actions. Genuine closeness to Allah is achieved not through titles or ancestry, but through sincere faith and good deeds.

Ohyoudidnt:


Good you posted it in full. Now you see;

1. A rejection of the Israelites being children of Allah. (No)

2. They are only humans that are created like others.

3. He forgives who he will and not others as they are aware and responsible for their actions though it's within his mercy to forgive what or who he wants.

Similar to Exodus 34:
6 And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.”

In disciplining my children I educate them to identify what wrong is done, think and be remorseful so on their own they wouldn't do that again.

Ohyoudidnt:


Do look at it from the Quran itself not a template you are using

Ohyoudidnt:


Post Quran 5:18 in full and see your answer

9jatriot:
This is one of the reasons I do not think that Zalensky guy has sense at all, no sensible leader watches your country being bombed and people killed and not consider other form of resolutions.

The hatred Iran has for Isreal is more than the one Ukraine has for Russia but here is Iran considering a cease-fire to avoid further loss of life and properties.

Ohyoudidnt:


O People of the Book! Why do you mix the truth with falsehood and hide the truth knowingly?

2:85 Then, you are those [same ones who are] killing one another and evicting a party of your people from their homes, cooperating against them in sin and aggression. And if they come to you as captives, you ransom them, although their eviction was forbidden to you. So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part? Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life; and on the Day of Resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do

Ohyoudidnt:


Always spewing for unnecessary banter. Did you really present the conclusion of Quran 5:18?

smallsmall:


No Sir, l have not made those assumptions.
For example:
- Russians are also dying but which of the two, is snatching Citizens off the street, in Gyms, in Supermarkets, at Weddings?
Who of the two, keeps passing legislation to lower the conscription age, from 27, to 25 and now, he wants everyone to got owar, including the Women? And l can quote some of the words of Zelensky himself, which you can verify, from your own "Western Media":
"Tightening mobilization Rules earlier this year, failed to solve Ukraine's manpower shortages on the battle field. The Brigades in the East are exhausted, rotation is needed, The guys are getting tired and leaving. the must be replaced with fresh Units" - Vladmir Zelensky (16/11/2024, on Ukrainskoye radio ).
You can use Google to verify the above, direct quote for the Ukrainian President.
So, it is Ukraine that is under pressure, when it comes to ManPower on the battle field.

Again, Russia has lost a lot of Battle Equipment but as Western Analyst have pointed out, Russia has ramped-up its War-Time Industrial Production so much and itis only getting some help from its own allies too. On the balance of things, Russia is not dependent on foreign help, as much as Ukraine is.
Infact, Ukraine and its European allies went into a frenzy of panic, hen Trump won the US election because they know that Weapons and Financial Support is about to end. Even CNN reported that Trump Junior posted a 38days Countdown for Zelensky, to end his begging for Weapons and Money from the US (which Trump consider as Scamming the US, under Biden )

Russia on the other hand, has seen its economy grow and its reserves swell so much, that the World bank and the IMF has to review their initial assessment of Russia Economy UPWARDS!
Russia is making so much money selling its "Energy Products" to China, India (who then resells it to Europe at five times the cost price! ) and using it to buy needed Parts for its manufacturing Industries, from the World biggest Market (China).

On Nuclear Weapons, a lot of other Countries have it.
But the difference here is that "he tha is down, needs not fear falling".
Russia is at War, if its existence is threatened, it has nothing more to lose! It will use a Nuclear Weapon.
Other Countries that you mention, do not include Ukraine and their Existence are not threatened because they are not at War.
Will they want to get involve in a Nuclear exchange with a country that has" nothing to lose" at this stage?

The Poor are ready to Die, it is the Rich that are scared to die and want to stay alive and live long!
Everyone looses, in a Nuclear War but who will it pain the most?
A flourishing Country at Peace, plunging itself into a Nuclear War on behalf of Ukraine or One that is in a State of War and its existence is already under threat.? That is the big Picture.

Yes, it was supposed to be a 2Weeks SMO and Russia was already at the outskirts of the Ukrainian Capital with in a few days of the War.
Then Countries that Russia 'respects' called for Ceasefire and Negotiations.
Putin, knowing that this SMO was against a "Sister Country's Government" and not its people, half of whom are Russians themselves, was quick to give Peace a Chance. HE STOPPED PROGRESS.

Then the Europeans and "Genocide-Joe" administration felt they should start supporting Ukraine with Weapons, Instructors and Mercenaries (which was not a factor at the beginning) ....changing the face of the War for Russia and prolonging it.
Another thing is that Russia has decided that thi sis a Proxy-War and it is fighting NATO so, there is no need to expend all its most Modern Weapons and technology on the Puppet Ukraine, it is reserving the most potent ones for Ukraine's masters, while it allows Ukriane to bleed itself to defeat, using what is termed the "Meat Grinder Approach": You win the War, not by military defeat of your enemy, but by ensuring that it does not have the ManPower to continue the War, having Grinded all its Troops to a Slow death and still get to keep your best Weapons.

That is the Philosophy behind Putin's Approach to this War. I takes longer to achieve but it is Cost effective, Preserves Weapons for a possible offensive by NATO members (if the Democrats have won the US election, this is a possible scenario!) and Ukraine will eventually surrender.
As of this moment, Zelensky is already saying and l quote: This War must End in 2025 and End in DIPLOMACY!
That is huge, for someone who was supposed to "fight for as long as it takes and to the last Ukrainian".

Finally, I am versed enough in International Politics and knwlegeable enough to source information across so many Platforms across the World, and come to a reasonable conclusion.
Ofcourse, just like the Democrats were saying before the Election and what lead them to lose an Election against someone "as worse" as Trump, anything you dont agree with or when you dont want to face reality, just call it "Russian Propaganda"..... and you will be fine.

Very Soon, REALITY will come knocking, as soon as Trump is sworn-into Office, come January 22, 2025.